Using chainsaw to cut a felled tree at the rootball stump. Fell After Hurricane Sandy. 20’ MS 290
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2014
- This tree fell during Hurricane Sandy. High winds + wet soil = large falling Oak tree.
IMPORTANT to cut at the rootball before you finish the trunk of the tree. After you cut all of the branches and limbs off the top of the tree and while you still have enough weight from the rest of the trunk of the tree. Cut down near the root ball and let it fall back in the hole.
If you don’t then the weight of the root ball will over power the tree and pull the tree back up while you are cutting the trunk. Also very important to put medium size logs underneath the tree trunk before you cut at the rootball so when the tree falls it does not touch the ground and is easier to cut the rest of the trunk.
20” Stihl chainsaw. MS 290 - Jak na to + styl
Amazing 👍👍👍👍
Had 65-foot white pine fall with the root ball, think I will get a pro to make that cut for me. Money is cheap, life is a one-time deal....
I had hoped you would mention the great danger of leverage against the trunk. A massive tree like that may build up a huge amount of potential energy as it falls between other trees. It may snap before you finish the cut. You don't want to be on the wrong side of that. Even if you're on the right side, you may take shrapnel. That is why I cringe when I see people out there without any PPE.
Legend has it shes still filming.
Just placing a few wedges in the saw cut works wonders in maintaining control.........Just saying......!!
I will try that next time. Thanks. That was my first stump cut though.
Yeah.. You cut it up, that's how. Amazing
Start at the far end , that way the wood is of the ground when you cut, under cut first, so as not to pinch the saw, but you did it without getting cut or killed .
Do a bore cut half way down to the bottom and then finish up with the top cut to keep from pinching the bar.
I will thanks
Great job! We have lots of these around our town that have been getting cleaned up.
20' on a 290.. DAMN homie, longest bar I've ever run is a 6'.. And that was on an 880.. LOL
I know a bucker who wasn't very bright do just the same thing and the rootwad rolled forward on him swashed him deader than dead. That cut is one of the most dangerous cut you can make bucking. As long as everyone walks away, it's all good. Proves the point: I'd rather be lucky than smart any day."
How many stories or responses have you read that also started out with "I knew a guy" or how bout my favorite "not me but a story I read". Seems like people have forgotten that you risk being hurt in near everything you do. It's called life.
@@timeversman9804 But there's no point or advantage in taking unnecessary risks
@johngray8250 true you can point out the errors there making but it's there call.
Fire fighting in yellow stone I was sent to help out a nother fire crew and it dawned on me that members of the fire crew were resting behind the roots in the flesh dirt after I cut off the trunk it slammed back to the ground. Poor firefighters would've been crushed. Thanks Jesus for saving those in harm's way
The root system was bigger
@@anthonynewbreast1917 Thanks for the story. Glad they were not there when it fell.
Wow that was one big tree... N the roots were huge.... 🌲🌳🌿🍁
It was a very old tree. At least 110 years old or older. The branches were huge and they kept the tree stalk much higher than what you see in the video. I dropped the stalk on a few logs beneath it before I got to this point.
I don't know if you considered that the root ball could have fallen toward the tree, and if so, you'd have been in deep doo-doo! A logger in a nearby community to me made that mistake and the root ball collapsed on him and he went to the big tree fallers ball in the sky. Best to cut at the far end of the first log if you're not sure.
That’s extremely rare because there’s a big log in the way but I can happen. It’s usually easy to tell which way the root ball is going to go when you’re there in person. It’s more common to have someone, including a child, on the other side of the root ball. The first cut I usually make is at the stump to get the root ball on the ground ASAP.
Even that can be avoided by propping a log up against it from both front and back.
Great job
Makes the undercut last
Genius
Thanks
Of course it all depends what you want to do with that trunk. But if you were planning to buck it up for firewood, make those cuts first, while the trunk is off the ground. And if you wanted it for lumber, at least put some timbers under it before you drop it. That's just basic.
非常高級的木材 非常驚人的砍柴技術💯
Thank you. Watching the root ball fall back is exciting.
@@astockworkorange 👍
And didn’t clear a safe route away from where he’s sawing. This is a good example of not thinking through what you plan to do. Sawing is the last thing to think about.😢
Yeh but he's got a chainsaw proof , Bobble hat ,I won't say he's a cowboy but his nickname is bronco 🤠
I was actually looking for a video to demonstrate the concept of a rootball returning to someone that doesn’t understand they can be dangerous. I think this will do even though this was executed by someone that understands basic physics
Thanks. I had done half the cutting before we started filming. Try not to get the blade stuck.
A log propped up back there would stop that from happening and bam stump is about pulled also. You could also shovel some dirt into the hole before cutting. I have an Arbortech AS1000 saw and I will cut roots right down into the dirt with it no problem. It was made for brick work but I cut roots with it also.
No Hearing protection. No Eye protection. No head protection.
I had my Bengals cap on, but only because it was kind of cold. I am still alive after doing this for almost 2 decades. Thanks for your concern though.
@@astockworkorange
How's your hearing? Have you been testing it every year, so you can watch it progressively fade away?
Or are you simply in denial that you are, without any doubt, making yourself deaf?
See, the thing is, it's not just a problem for you. It's a problem for everyone in your life. Your wife has to raise her voice now, and repeat herself. That doesn't help your relationship. Everyone is slowly becoming frustrated with you. I don't think it ends well.
No problem
Šokec.danijel nije rezanje pilom
And no injuries, and no problem.
"The dealer told me it would cut one hundred cords of wood in a day, no problem. I will take this saw back to the dealer,"
The very next day Banta brings the saw back to the dealer and explains the problem. The dealer, baffled by the Banta's claim, removes the chainsaw from the case.
The dealer says, "Hmm, it looks fine."
Then the dealer starts the chainsaw, to which Banta responds, "What's that noise?
Good job! Not much risk injury though in my opinion, I'm no expert though! 😂
Certainly not risky enough to warrant the use of any protective equipment lol
Nice vid… dont be so insecure. You did it good👌
Thank you. I was nervous because I had my wife filming this and I wanted to get done fairly fast. Plus you can hear me ask where my dog was so I was kind of worried about her. I wish I had filmed the whole cut, because that was a very large tree. I was kind of pissed that Hurricane Sandy blew it over. It was a beautiful tree and I knew I had to cut this this thing up. I think I got about 3 or 4 cords out of it.
@@astockworkorange I know you would rather be cautious and alive than overconfident and dead. That ended perfectly, but there were many possible alternative outcomes, few of them "happy". Well done, sir!
"I heard the nooiiizzzzzzzzzz"
"Are you still filming?"
Successful outcome!
duh...uh...what? the stump fell the opposite direction. Bizarro world of no gravity maybe.
It was kind of nerve racking just before it fell back. I could hear the trunk cracking. This tree fell because of Hurricane Sandy and we live on the Eastern Shore of MD. Wind and wet soil.
You did great! Huge pucker factor with windblown trees.
you forgot to say "hold my BEER and watch THIS !"
Funny. Thanks for the humor.
haha cool
I've got 20 acres that had 85mph straight line winds and a funnel cloud and it was all but leveled.
I've some experience felling trees, but have never cut bound or uprooted trees.
One of my Cherry trees pulled a 24ft wide root ball and about ten feet deep.
I'm quite nervous about the cleanup.
Thanks for the video.
Have any tips ?
Cut from the top down so you can get rid of all the small branches first. Then cut off all the bigger branches until you get down to the trunk only. Make sure you have mid sized pieces of wood underneath the trunk before it hits the ground. That will keep the trunk from touching the dirt thus making it easier for you to cut the trunk without hitting dirt. Like the video shows cut the end of the trunk so the rootball will fall back into the hole. Post a video so I can see. Thanks
@@astockworkorange Hi Dan. Thanks for responding. Parts of the trees are still pretty far off the ground. I'm terrified of a spring pole situation. I just made this video of one of the larger balls, but I haven't been into the interior of our place as its impassable. czcams.com/video/JJdYYB7vSv4/video.html
This is from September 7th the video
czcams.com/video/Tu5-S151EP0/video.html
The verdict is still out on whether it was a tornado or not has there is trees going in multiple directions.
I put a comment on the CZcams video you sent me.
@@astockworkorange I seen part of it but it vanished.
I don't have any idea where it went.
I was only able to see up to the root balls look thick and heavy.
@@eagleeye1542 that’s a shame cause I typed a lot. I will be brief. Cut the small branches off the top of both trees. You can get rid of them quickly. The first tree I think you can cut the trunk that suspended in the air. All those pieces will be easy to cut and will easily fall to the ground. The tree next to your deer blind I think you can cut the trunk on the right look at the tree from the top. Both rootball’s are heavy so before you cut to much off the other two trunks cut the trees right at the rootball and let them fall. Hope you have a 20’ chainsaw.
safety glasses?
How do these end up like that in first place?
Hurricane Sandy and wet soil. I got three cords from it though.
Soft ground from excess rain combined with high winds
He chainsawed a root ball stump. Terminology belies the ignorance. Performance confirms it.
Next to the rootball. I read my post again and it realized I didn’t explain the process well. So I re-edited the post. Thanks for your reply.
As a Logger I have cut many blow downs like this and much bigger , some were well over my head , and that is when it gets really dangerous as some will split and have to have a chain and binder put on the log first before cutting .
Next have to guess witch way that root ball is going to fall , if in doubt do not cut it with out a machine holding it from falling on the cutter .
Some were so high of the ground the cutter has to stand on the blade of the skidder to make the cut , not safe to be on the ground with the log over your head and have the log falling down at the cutter .
I have cut many where the root ball would have fell towards the log if not held with the skidder blade and smashed the cutter .
Very dangerous work .
Best to let these trees to the pro,s to cut if there is any doubts about what might happen , a couple ton root ball will smash you very quickly .
Be smart and safe to cut another day .
In one instance, not this one, a child was playing in the stump hole and was crushed when the stump fell into the hole-- as it did here. Keep children away.
When these root balls fall back they don’t fall back perfect, so they usually end up being fox burrows.
“How to chainsaw” comical
that size tree and root ball, but the top of the tree much higher, hung up on ANOTHER tree. NOW what ?
You made me remember that when this tree fell it took out a smaller oak tree. The smaller oak was about 60 years old. The tree in the video did not get hung up, but the branches were so big that it was laying at about a 30 degree angle. I cut the branches on touching the ground until the tree trunk was almost laying on the ground. I had about eight cut pieces sitting below the trunk so when it fell to the ground it was not in the dirt. Much easier to cut if it’s not touching the ground. Now to answer your question. If it falls on another tree what to do. I guess you could cut away the rootball first then work up to the smaller part of the tree? Or try to move the tree with a rope so it falls or cut down the other tree? What would you do? I am stumped with this question.
@@astockworkorange if I cut the root ball first (my plan) the root ball will definitely want to stand back up while the trunk wants to go DOWN. Determined NOT to get the bar in a pinch
This should be titled how not to fell a wind blown tree . what a chump
That’s not what the title say’s. It says how to chainsaw the rootball. The tree is already felled. The point is to warn and tell people to cut the rootball first so the trunk of the tree does not rise back up.
This is how you know when so.eo e do t know bow to run a chain saw.but knows how to start one. WhT is he scared of its on the ground not going anywhere da
I wasn’t scared just a little nervous and hyper. Just wanted to get it on film.
Where is the protective gear!
At home?
Go back to your safety bubble
@@MrIgottap I ride motorcycles on daily basis (I have several), one of which has a car tire on the rear, so my safety bubble is rather large. But I always wear a helmet when riding and running a chain saw. I have chainsaw chaps but seldom wear them even though I have cut my jeans on more than one occasion.
I would not be alive or have brain damage had I not been wearing a motorcycle helmet on two occasions. Some would argue that I have been brain damaged, but I think I was just born this way.
@@kirkkw I was way in my back yard. 2 acres back. I did wear glasses when I was cutting the branches on the top of the tree, but once I got down to the stalk I was just cutting big pieces off until I did the video. I might be to comfortable when cutting.
A real example of how not to do this job ! Start at the top of the tree an work your way back to the base. This guy is accident waiting to happen ! No personal protection equipment on , jumping over a log with a running chain saw is just plain stupid !!! Remember even if a tree is tipped over a flat on the ground there are still forces of tension on the tree an it is hazardous! Case in point look how the stump goes back into place!!!
I had a Bengals hat on. That was plenty protection for me. I do wear sunglasses if it is to sunny out, but that was just after Halloween so I did not need them. I do agree I was not using protection, but this video was taken after days of cutting a very large tree from top to bottom. I think I was acting nervous because I knew I was being filmed. I do wear gloves sometimes, but I have not been hurt ever and that video was taken eight years ago. Thanks for your concern.
@@astockworkorange Dan, you only get 1 set of eyes!! With all your experience have you never had the saw kick-back or launch a large piece of splinter at you?
I guess I'm just "old school."
@@JBliehall For sure I have had some close calls. I do wear sun glasses when the sun is bright and when I am cutting and it is windy. I don’t like dust in my eyes. I wear gloves sometimes and I have thick boots.
@David Lotti. I fully agree with your comments about safety etc. Without a helmet, face guard, ear protectors, chaps or full trousers, jumping over the large trunk with the saw running and possibly still on drive. Even the way that the operator is standing points him out as a rank amateur.
The man’s either a rank amateur or an idiot. Or possibly BOTH.
next time, make the bottom cut FIRST
Thanks I will next time.
It's not a root ball it's a stump.
The stump is the tree and the rootball is the root and dirt part. Thanks though.
@@astockworkorange it's still called a stump never heard it called a root ball n I been in logging in Mississippi for 45 years thanks !
@@garybattle7805 The roots and the dirt that surrounds it is part of the stump?
@@garybattle7805 I'm 69, also in MS, wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard it called a root ball
@@garybattle7805 …..It sure as hell is a root ball in the UK. I’ve two full days on ‘em this week end.
I don't like that Noyse
This guy does not know what he's doing. Cut the bottom first; that way the saw will not get pinched in the bottom. Then cut the top until it falls.
That was my first stump cut. I will do that next time. That was also about 10 days into cutting this whole tree up. Top to bottom. That was a wide stump also.
I had to cut from both sides and I have a 20 inch blade. I was getting anxious to get done also.
All stumps are different. There is no 1 way of cutting them. Some times it is best to measure up 8ft or 16ft and start there then work your way backwards.
The problem with cutting the top last is when the rootball springs back into the hole and you are cutting on top with a chainsaw, you'll get a face full of running chainsaw... that never turns out well... especially in Texas. That's a hard cut to stay safe even for a professional. He did a good job only because he lived to upload a video of it.
No place doing that... having a saw in the shed doesn't mean you're qualified to use it
That tree fell back in 2014 because of Hurricane Sandy, so I’ve gotten better.
I bought that saw because of that tree. My other saw 16’ was to small for that tree.
@@astockworkorange I guess one way to learn is to do...just be careful mate.
Yet here you are on your computer?
I don’t think the title should include the words “how to”. The sawyer is obviously not an expert, lack of PPE no wedges etc
Buddy if you are that scared of that tree and not knowing what it's going to do exactly take that chainsaw back to the dealer and call someone that knows what they're doing please
I was just being extra cautious. I didn’t want my saw to get pinched. I called my wife to film this cause I knew it would be cool to see. Plus if you listen to me I was asking her where my dog Lita was. I didn’t want her to get hurt. That was a monster tree also and getting through that part of the tree was tough. I had to cut on both sides and I have a 20’ inch Stihl and I didn’t want the saw to get pinched. I use four cords a year to burn at home I have cut down plenty of trees.
@@astockworkorange hey thanks for the explanation it was a cool video I meant no disrespect this type of stuff ain't for everyone take care Hoss
Peace
@@countrylife9763 You always have to be a little nervous and cautious at the same time when cutting wood. Thanks for watching.
Sorry I watched a couple of your videos.. What did you do or doing about your heart?
@@astockworkorange I had quadruple heart surgery I have a valve that leaks and they want to open my chest up again I'm just trusting the Lord man I try to be a man of Faith you know sometimes it's hard but hopefully I can just treat it with medicine and not have to go through that again
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Lost your P.P.E.@ 0:49.
Safety first......!!
P.P.E. ?
Nope that's not how to do it.you need to make a reduction cut
Reduction cut the top or bottom?
@@astockworkorange the reduction cut leaves holding wood in the centre
czcams.com/video/8k49fky9_78/video.html
How to do it....NOT...
No PPE, dangerous cutting technique esp when undercutting, work area and escape routes not cleared, no chain brake when moving with the saw. You may have got away with it for 2 years but your day is coming if you carry on like that
That tree took out another good size oak tree when they fell. Still fully green also. And the strong branches kept this free at a 40 degree angle after it fell. It took about a week of cutting all the branches and lowering the trunk and cutting the trunk and hauling the wood by wheelbarrow to my splitter. I never got hurt once and here we are 9 years later and I am still going. I do agree with you though. I should have thought about looking more professional before I had this filmed.
No safety gear! Can’t watch….
Why not do the intelligent thing and buck it all the way down to the ball…you only get one life…why risk it…
The rootball would be heavier than the stump and then the stump would rise up.
@@astockworkorange id argue that is safer than being that close to the tension and the unstable rootball. You could also put a pair of 10k lb tow straps and tie it into another tree for safety. There are more than one way to skin a cat, why not put safety first.
You also hop over the tree after making a cut…could have released at that time…
No safety gear, nothing…
@@astockworkorange it would also happen at a much slower pace if it were to get pulled back. If you are bucking 16” at a time versus cutting the most tension at the base. Could have went any number of directions, rootball could have come forward, the tree could have pushed back and towards whatever way…
So, i disagree with your assesment that the safest thing to do was the route you took…
The root ball never comes forward because of how heavy the dirt is on the back of the ball. Out in the middle of the woods I don’t think a strap would be strong enough. It seemed scarier on the video because k was being to nervous when I didn’t need to be. @@TheAcenightcreeper
The amuck trade untypically answer because format preferentially land alongside a bewildered gray. abandoned, berserk camera
I agree. I think.
--- that's only accurate on alternate Wednesdays in months that end in "r"
You can only stay lucky for so long. You losing your hat should have been a wake up call. A moments distraction can be the difference between life and death. Most of the time you were in the danger zone you had an actual tree blocking your escape route. You have a root ball that weighs maybe 3 ton? Please do not do this viewers! Watch some chainsaw videos by people who know what they are doing, not lucky idiots.
Thanks. That little branch just snagged it right off my head.
Looks like a homeowner who just bought his first saw.
How does I wedge cut?