Everything Wrong With Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny in 17 Minutes or Less
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- čas přidán 20. 12. 2023
- The thing about Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny is that it's far better than Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, but that's not really saying much. Anyway, let's dive into the sins.
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When Indy is begging to be left in the past to die, I felt he was echoing the voices of everyone who knew we didn't need this movie.
He belongs in a museum!
@@jekebe4858
Hahaha
That's cannon for me now. He was begging the movie to not exist 😂😂
Correct
And then he gets punched in the face by a girl and forced to give up his own wish. What a heroic ending.
Indy: “I don’t believe in magic.”
Also Indy: “I got tortured with VooDoo.”
Also had his bonds magically cut after a cave full of Nazis got melted. And met a 500 year old knight with a cup that healed his father
CinemaSins: "Aliens are magic"
Scientific VooDoo of course. It’s also quite funny that he would be an atheist considering all the religious artifacts he seen work
To be fair, and the video skipped over this too, he says he doesn't believe in magic then immediately says he's seen shit he doesn't understand.
Also Indy: I drank from a cup that belonged to Jesus that also healed my Fathers gunshot wound
My dad's an aerospace engineer who builds airplanes for a living, so first thing I did after watching the movie with him was ask him how unrealistic the airplane scene was.
- Can't hotwire an airplane. Still need to prime the engines and stuff or it won't go
- That little single-engine plane would never be able to keep up with the larger plane
- Kid with zero flying experience would never be able to do that
- Why are you flying low enough to be shot down with harpoons?
- And lots of complicated explanations about stalls and recovery and whatnot
Don’t need to be an engineer to say “yeah, right. That would never happen”
But then again it’s Hollywood, so laws of physics and engineering have no merit. It would make a pretty boring movie.
Also the question of HOW they managed to maintain a Heinkel 111 (fictional type) for 20 or so years in secrecy?
@@andborthe HE 111 was a very real medium bomber
@@RoadhouseDeluxeit was, but it didn’t have 2 tail stabilizers like it was shown here
That's what bothered me, one or the art directors changed an iconic design that almost everyone is aware of to make it look different? At least be accurate or creative and have a digital flying wing as in the first film. @@andbor
One thing the film forgot to mention is that Indy is still wanted for murder when he gets back to his time
oh yeah. they just forgot that whole ordeal, didn't they
@@DanDaMiniFig I'd love it if after the film and after Indy finishes kissing Marian, the police just busted into the apartment and said "Did you really think we'd just forget?" XD 🤣😂
"you're cleared for murder because your wife came back to you and also you're indiana flipping Jones"
@@DanDaMiniFig "You're cleared of all charges for being awesome"
This was answered before the CIA gal was killed, she mentioned the government suspected something was up with Voller and Indiana was cleared.
I'm surprised there wasn't a sin for how Indy is fine after every punch except the plot relevant one. When he needs to be dragged out of ancient Rome, one sucker punch is enough to KO him long enough for them to drag him onto the plane, fly back through the rift, land wherever it was they departed from, leave from there and fly all the way back to NYC, track down Marion and convince her to come back, and have her leave to come back with groceries. That's like a whole ass day.
Well duh, that one punch was from a woman. Women are way stronger than a 300 lb dude loaded with more steroids and HGH than the liver king after a doctors visit. Haven't you been paying attention the last 5 years??
As a single hetero male, I would not mind a whole-ass day 😂
or the fact that he got shot and was fine up to the point were all the fighting was done, then it was like the writers were like or crap we had him get shot, need to bring that back.
It’s even sillier that the KO punch was delivered by a woman half his size rather than the brute
Indianas goddaughter gets a +50 punching buff
Till this day, honestly, the franchise should have ended with The Last Crusade! It was the perfect ending with Indy and his dad riding off into the sunset.
Agreed.
Indeed and they had a book series and video games to continue the legacy
Definitely.The sun has set on Indy's adventures way back then.
I do agree that one of the main problems with this movie and the last one is the fact that Harrison Ford is quite literally a senior citizen, so they can't really maintain the same fun action and momentum that the original trilogy excelled at.
Yeah it'd hard to see indy as a cool suave ladies man when's he in his 80s he just seems like an elderly man trying to be coil for the youngsters
And that is with heavy make up on.
Yea it feels like the movie just happens around him, as if the plot is an orderly taking him on an adventure. No one wants to see other people takes Indys role in an Indiana movie either.
Thats not what made the film suck tho.
That's the problem when your main character is a modern (for his time) incarnation of a pulp hero. Nobody really wants to see him old and he has not enough depth to make a serious character study out of him.
I love the character, but with time, people and studios tend to forget the roots and limitations of movies like Indiana Jones and Star Wars, that have originally been built on references to old pulpy stories.
I (like most people) have come to agree that Indy for me ended at Last Crusade
Same
That is the true canon.
@@Daniel__Nobre wah wah wah, whine whine whine
@bad2dabohn1992
I quite liked four, though it was not to the standard of the first three. It actually works for a conclusion to the Indiana Jones story arc, and all of the 0lot beats are completed in a more effective manner.
1) Indiana is feeling that the world is passing him by, and his most important people have died/left him (Marion in both movies, his father/Mutt respectively,) and he has lost his career.
2) A long-lost relative appears to provide purpose and direction in Mutt and hid goddaughter.
3) Mutt provides himself useful in a sword duel with the villain, while goddaughter does everything.
4) Marion and Indiana are brought together after fighting each other and reconciling. Goddaughter brings them together.
@@jayt9608 I'm glad you liked it. But for me all of those points you mentioned are not just depressing, but just make it actually the "anti-Indiana Jones". It all feels so far away from what the original movies were.
The biggest sin is the Paramount logo not dissolving to a mountain-like structure. That's like a mainline Star Wars movie without its opening crawl.
They did something like that with the Lucasfilm logo, but it didn’t feel the same
No sin for the villain being completely fine when he should have been decapitated on the train sequence??!
at 10:00
Scientists have proven that Mads Mikkelson's face is almost indestructible
Yeah, even that part of the movie is what really, really, got on my nerves. There’s no way he could’ve survived, and the fact that they don’t even get into details to how he did, feels like the studio really thinks that their audience is dumb.
@@iddqdvieThanks. Didn’t catch it because I hadn’t got to that part yet
Sin number 87, 10 minutes in. Though I'd add like 20 more to be fair
Indy: I don’t believe in magic.
The Ark of the Covenant, Sankara stones, and the Holy Grail: Am I a joke to you?
And the magical refrigerator.
You can't hotwire that type of airplane. It has a carburetor and a choke. He effectively hotwired the magneto switch to an on position. He still would have to prime the engine and start it manually with pumps and switches.
It's a series with the real holy Grail and an ark that kills people who open it.
Don't know why you're looking for realism here.
@@SkySoFewthey could have atleast used a plane that could actually be hotwired
@@SkySoFewthat is the stupidest argument I have ever heard.
"Oh this show has a fantasy element, I don't know why you expected a rock to fall when you dropped it. Gravity is too realistic"
This is a slight exaggeration of your excuse.
@@DH-xw6jp They survived a fall from a plain.... thousands of feet in the air...on an inflatable raft. Even gravity is negotiable.
I get you're a miserable person and what does misery love? I get all that. But have you tried NOT being a nitpicking tool? Try it! It might be fun.
@@SkySoFew magic existing doesn't suddenly mean that aircraft work differently.
Time travel is a trope that's really, really hard to do well without poking more holes in the plot than the finest swiss cheese. Dial of Destiny tried, but it still ended on a paradox. Honestly I'm of the opinion that time travel as a plot device should be avoided unless you really, really know what you're doing (or you've got the brains to pull off a "Dark" and have the audience so confused it doesn't matter any more).
There are so many ways to do time travel right. This ain't one.
What exactly is that paradox you mentioned?
@@jkpoeqd The function of the Dial itself is a bootstrap paradox.
@@Croz89 How's that? A paradox is a direct contradiction, so where is it here? Of course the mere existence of time travel is, but if that's what you mean, then there's no point in criticizing it as otherwise no movie about time travel ever would be without a paradox.
@@jkpoeqd Well, spoiler alert, don't say I didn't warn you! The watch on Archimedes body and the carvings on the tomb create a causal loop, because for these things to be present the events at the end of the film had to have already happened.
Helena asked Teddy if he could fly the plane because in his introductory scene he’s shown learning the controls from pilots at the auction on a makeshift control rig.
Some of the wildest and most forced set up in movie history.
Like, how’s that supposed to work? That’s like saying someone watch a bunch of Fast & Furious movies therefore, that means that they know how to drift.
F**k off film.
Can confirm. As soon as he saw that, my dad turned to me in the theater and said that kid is gonna fly a plane later in the movie and be a hero.
Or, because he was clearly playing a Feng Shui archetype. The "kid" can drive/pilot any vehicle by RAW.
Still waiting for the payoff of maggie driving in the simpsons intro...
Fly, yes. Land, no. An opportunity for a call back to last crusade missed. *ding
Weirdest part for me was when the kid fastened one of the henchmen with the handcuffs under water. Literslly murder, and the movie is all "oh well that happened" 😅
Indiana jones killed a lot of people. Idk what was the point you tried to make
Indy commits manslaughter! Pushed a row of Hunter College book shelves on the CIA agent. Older guy in 🩼.
I remember thinking what a cold move that was when I watched it.
me too! I was totally expecting a "Murder" sin there but... I guess the Sins video can't be longer than the film itself lol
They wrapped this movie up so quickly I was "Really? I had to sit through that long-ass car chase for this ridiculous "well, we came back, movie's over!"
I'm an archaeologist. The description of archaeologists at 2:56 could not be more accurate.
FACTS 😂
Indy's goddaughter did not get enough sins.
Surprised you didn’t mention them casually mentioning Shia LeBeouf’s character and Indy’s son in a throwaway line at all
A couple things that bugged me about this movie:
1. Of course Indy and Marion are split up (again), because nobody in Hollywood knows how to write movies about happily married couples.
2. Just because he's old, Indy is portrayed as a sad, cranky guy who's lost his sense of adventure and bores his students.
Why I love the first three so much, is that they never started the movie with the same artifact that they ended with, it was a good set up for who Indy was.
Well for a guy that's 81 at least he looks pretty good.
I'm surprised you didn't sin the fact the main Nazi played by Mads (Hannibal Lecter) got smacked full on in the face by a train signal early on in the movie and fell off the train, somehow magically survives and doesn't have any visible scarring on their face 50 years later 😂
Also an awfully good looking senior hahaha
Him an indie would be about the same age during ww2. Yet they look and move nothing alike in the movie
It’s only 25 years but yeah that is a good point
Well he sinned the fact that it didn't decapitate him, soooo a scar was the least of his worries.
FACTS 😂. His face should be gone
Hannibal Lecter dies hard!
This movie actually made me mad as a history buff who always wanted to go back in time and live there i actually thought Indy was going to get to live the dream but no they just knock him out.
I don’t think it would have ended good if they left Indy in the past.
I don't believe they honest gave him the Bilbo Baggins treatment.
@robertmason837 why? Nothing happened after and Indy is an expert on the time period he probably wouldve lived happily as a scholar
This movie you can thank for disnet
Except he was already living in a historical moment, the moon landing, and he just said F you. Ya this actually got a small laugh out of me, he was living and witnessing a historical moment and not caring and yet he wanted to go and live in a historical moment.
A rare occurrence of an actor playing two roles at once from his previous movies: an archeologist and a fugitive.
6:23 - 6:27
My thoughts exactly. I mean, could you imagine if just as he said that, a flash of light appeared, and someone said, “I’m sorry, but did you say Indiana Jones?”. Sallah says, “Why yes I did. Who’s asking?”, only for the reveal to be the police, and they arrest both Indy and Sallah.
What's even dumber at 2:00 is the fact that the Nazi had a LOADED GUN right there on his hip, but still decided that the top of a moving train was the perfect place for a KNIFE-FIGHT instead.
There were SO MANY chances for Indy to be shot, yet they all either magically miss him or they just don't shoot despite not needing Indy for anything relevant anymore.....stretching the suspension of disbelief to the very limit...no, wait, actually waaaay over it....
The fact this movie exists is worth 100 sins on its own.
👍
only 100? hell naw, you're being too generous.
I riffed on this movie when I watched it. Every time Indy has a brush with dying, "Oh thank you! Dear sweet release of death!!" (trap fails to kill him) "Dammit!"
At the scene at the airport with Sallah: "This isn't an adventure Sallah..." Me: "It's an execution!"
Then when the car stops from hitting him in the street "Dammit why did you stop!?!"
The movie was great, no idea what you're wafflin about
@@ferret9263the blatant misdefinition of capitalism on its own is cringeworthy enough
They were so close with this movie. The idea for the artifact and the villain is perfect for the last Indiana Jones movie. Nazi’s really were the only villain faction you could go with for the last Indy movie.
The big issue is that Helena is just so unlikable. Maybe if they wrote it in a way where we actually got on board with her before she started betraying Indy it would have worked better. Maybe a more likable actress like Daisy Ridley would have made the character better. I understand not wanting to just repeat Star Wars though.
I wish it was Indy, Short Round and Sallah going on a last adventure. Marion could either go too or you could keep the ending relatively the same with their reunion there, as I thought that was a good place to end. A more likable Helena would be a good to include too as it brings a fresh dynamic to the group.
But also, the fact that they would choose to character assassinate Indiana Jones into being a sulking loser, is more insulting. Because the Indiana Jones that most people will know would never act the way he does in this flick.
When I watched this movie for the first time, one small thing I noticed was the lack of connection the audience had with the “Renaldo” character. Personally I think if the movie had replaced this guy with a smaller character the audience was familiar with (my idea would be to bring back Jock) then his reappearance and death would have had so much more weight to it.
DOD erased everything that ended CS with a happy ending! Just imagine if the movie had started out with an adult Short Round, who still wears his baseball cap AND who himself was now an archaeologist! He always saw Indy as a father figure and perhaps he felt inspired by him. He finds something mysterious and decides to seek out Indy after losing contact for the past 20 years. Indy is now head of the university and has become somewhat wealthy and famous after writing several books about his adventures over the years, which would have been later adapted into the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles. Him and Marion are thriving and Mutt has become much more mature with him and Indy on good terms now. Maybe he comes along for the ride? Anyway, Shorty and Indy have a very happy reunion and he manages to convince Indy into one last adventure after he privately confides to him that hes been thinking of retirement. Maybe Mutt becoming a father and his age be a motivator? They go on an adventure together and they have a touching moment in the middle. The movie ends with Indy's retirement and him taking his fedora off and putting it on Shorty's head, as a symbol of passing the torch to a younger generation. Similar to the beginning of The Last Crusade. NOW THAT would have been a trihumph! I would have loved it! It would have been so easy! What do you think?
@@TurbidTG1love it!!
Helena was good in it and had lots of personality. The problem with putting Daisy Ridley in it is that she can't act for shit.
I was waiting in the whole entire Indiana Jones movie for Helena to break the fourth wall😂
0:57 They missed the best "in" joke ever. They SHOULD have focused on the German soldier just before the scream and his name tag should have read "Wilhelm". It would have killed me with laughter.
Indiana Jones ended with Indy riding off into the sunset after the last crusade for me.
This movie deserves every bit of criticism it's ever gotten and then some.
I bet Harrison Ford was probably thinking "Kill me now" when he made this.
Hollywood actors will do anything for an honest paycheck, even if it means being forced to star in a movie they don’t want to star in.
Probably thinking "kill me now" on the way to the bank.🤣
I highly doubt that
Bro Harrison has systematically destroyed any hero he played in my childhood. Han Solo, Blade Runner, and now this. Dude is a fkn sellout to the highest degree. I don't even like him anymore.
@@jackmeeks2294 Yeah, in Cannes last year, he ranted like a lunatic about climate change and how people weren't doing anything. From the guy who owns, what, 5 planes ? This definitely opened my eyes. If you live long enough, you see your childhood heroes being demoted to dumbasses. I still love Han Solo (my favorite SW hero) but Harrison Ford is not someone to admire. Far from it.
He would say the Williams engines in his Cessna Jet are very efficient and burn less fuel, but his fleet are still gas guzzlers by most aviation standards. He should travel commercial and create a lower carbon footprint.@@barmag8802
Next up: Indiana Jones and the Scooter of Mobility.
I went and saw this in the theater with my wife on date night and when we got done, she could tell I was just kind of sad, which was disappointing for her because she thought it was the cool wife move to go see a movie from my favorite series (The Last Crusade is my all time favorite movie) and all I could say was that I was just let down and am tired of being let down by movies. Leave my favorites alone, please. I’m just tired of it Disney.
Agreed. I was dragged kicking and screaming cos my friend wanted to see an Indiana Jones movie w/the two of us in the theater. The things we do for our friends. I wore my fedora just cos. I am very fortunate to own the John Williams score CD, and that was the only thing I even cared about was the score. Anyway, Marion at the end was perfect.
I have to say that I'm a lifelong Indy fan and the visual I imagined of you sulking as you left the theater after seeing Dial of Destiny just makes me think of you as a pompous prick. The movie is fun, it's done well, the characters are treated with respect. No movie is without sin, but the constant whining we get from people like you is insufferable. Learn how to enjoy things.
Sad thing is, they probably could've pulled it off if the entire entertainment industry wasn't a dumpster fire.
Apart from the wife part I feel exactly the same, Disney just ruins every franchise I love in the last few years...
@@Justforvisit don't whine.
What about when Voller was hit by that big ass pipe on the train and ended up not decapitated or even scarred on his face?? If they added facial scars or made Voller’s face disfigured, it’d make him more remarkable and sinister-looking as a villain.
Yes but KK, Disney!!!
I know you're supposed to suspend your disbelief to an extent when it comes to movies (especially action ones), but I also had a hard time with that. I remember when they first showed him on screen after that scene, they kinda only showed him from the side at first, and I thought that at the very least it was gonna be revealed that he was scarred up or something on the other side from that pipe. But... nothing.
Is it me or this time around CinemaSins has been even too soft in sinning this movie?
The fact that this unnecessary Indiana Jones sequel exists, the villain who survives regardless what happens to him in the train sequence and many other things... don't pull your punches, CinemaSins! 😆
If they had sinned it properly, our grandkids would still be watching the video.
I agree this should have been sins in less than (Insert length of movie, plus time to critique)
CinemaShills
What happened to you in the train sequence?
@@OkayYaraman Sorry, small typo😅 I meant Mads Mikkelsen's character in the movie
I would think that the amount of continental drift that would have taken place since the battle of Syracuse would have to be pretty darned negligible.
I was shocked at the shorter length of this video, and I guess one of those things that made it shorter was "not" sinning the movie for Shaw laughing right after Indy's friend dies. That was jaw-dropping in the theater.
Not the kindnof thing you'd ever think you'd see in an Indiana Jones movie.
14:14 there's a scene where he's 'training' to fly airplanes in the casino, taught by a pilot. Would that give someone the ability to _start_ a plane? Plausibly. Fly it through a time-storm? No chance.
Trust me, they watch the whole movie. It's just so insanely implausible that there's no actual need to use that as justification.
"did we really NEED to flashback to younger Indy?" Yes we did, the flashback should have been the whole film.
It honestly felt more like an Indy driven adventure than the main part.
Amen. It was the best part of the movie 😅 I still haven't managed to finish watching it despite 3 attempts because it's so boring 😴
That would've been awesome 😎
It was at least 50 per cent of the original cut ... the one that the producers barely got out test screenings alive from. Kudos to them for keeping the footage and repurposing it.
The film definitely has its flaws, but HUGE shout out to John Williams for always delivering fantastic film scores!
I just graduated with a Masters Degree in Film and Television Scoring, and to say John Williams is an idol is an understatement. The level of orchestration, his use of woodwinds, the strong use of melodies, and the entirety of a 100+ piece orchestra is rarely heard in modern film scores today.
Apparently this was Williams's final film score as well. I hope he changes his mind.
John Williams did reverse his decision to retire after Dial of Destiny. He is inspired by Steven Spielberg's father who lived to 103. Honestly, if he still can compose amazing film scores, then by all means, go for it.
"Has its flaws". And the ocean is "a bit wet". :D
@@honsou1978dk, HA!
@@rainbowrunner1550, that's really great to read. Thank you!
JW was the only thing I cared about. The maestro delivered when the rest of it did not. Seeing Marion was the best part for me; snapping me back to reality from the pulp novel script I'd just suffered thru.🙃
How about a sin for the fact Indiana Jones only uses his whip twice
The one that bugs me is that they say Archimedes couldn't know about continental shift, but then they say he made the thing to get help. So, the dial worked as intended. Which is it?
"He didn't know about continental shift!"
"Then what the hell is that big literal hole in the sky directly in front of us?"
I too was confused about the way the dialogue was presented. I thought it was that the continental drift would have an effect on Voller's calculations for where the nexus would go, and so the nexus would still be there, but the destination would be off, but then it turns out you actually couldn't control when the nexus spits you out because it just connects those two points, but idk dude.
The biggest problem (out of so, so many) is that the Antikythera supposedly *predicts* temporal rifts, not create them. No one since then noticed the phenomenon?
Maybe they all happen over the Bermuda Triangle
@@RedHeadKevinSicily is not in the Bermuda Triangle though
I thought they flew into one of the rifts that the gizmo predicted, although I've no idea why villain guy thought it would take them to 1939 (I think I'd drunk too much rum by then).
@@dexine4723 yeah... it was said that it only ever brought people to that specific point in time, so why could it be configured for anything?
@@dexine4723 yeah my mom and I were confused about that too, why did the nazi dude think he could control (not where, but when) the Antikythera took them? still, the time travel thing was pretty cool ngl
Phoebe Waller-Bridge. (Ding)
Once I finished the film…I was suddenly thinking I would consider “Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” more of a proper end. I missed the coherency of Spielberg’s lens.
15:23 Are those giant focusing lenses using sunlight to set ships on fire?? That's actually awesome.
Look up "Archimedes' Death Ray."
The biggest sin in this movie is that SALLAH DOESN'T GET ENOUGH SCREENTIME
Or Short Round
I do find it baffling, too. As according to the actor, he was supposed to appear in the fourth movie, but turned it down, as it would only be a cameo in the end, where he appears at Indy and Marion’s wedding.
Like, come on dude. You really believed this fifth movie would be worth your time, but not the fourth movie?
@@osmanyousif7849 They made sure he was paid for a little of his time.
Compared to the crystal skull Harrison Ford looks so much more alive and active in this movie.
Whilst it was definitely a hell of a stretch, it WAS previously established earlier in the movie that the kid had been learning to fly planes from pilots. I recall that, aside from getting advice, he also had a rudimentary pilots seat simulation rigged up? Again, a total stretch that he'd be able to fly without crashing immediately, it was still at least established as a thing he was working toward in some fashion.
The PILOT was in the plane WITH him, so besides taking off, he had someone who knew how to fly to help him the whole time
@@SnoopyReads Was it the same pilot as before? If so, I didn't notice that detail.
@@ThatSoddingGamer the pilot, who owned the plane the kid snuck into, was asleep in the backseat. When the plane started moving down the runway he woke up and started assisting the kid. Everyone seems to leave this little fact out when mentioning how ridiculous it was that the kid flew the plane.
As someone who has flown planes that is in NO WAY enough to do it successfully. Especially in a damn thunderstorm.
@@SnoopyReads - I could have sworn they were already in the air by the point that the pilot woke up, but I could be misremembering.
I think the biggest disappointment was just all the cg garbage that is all Hollywood is these days. Remember when Ford literally hung onto a truck, or fought around a real airplane?? Like I’m not saying he could do that now, but a stunt double could. I just miss practical effects, and the originals were sooo freaking good because everything was real (because it had to be). CG should be used as a tool to enhance films, but now it’s just being used for everything, and it takes the creativity out of movie making…thanks for reading my rant
The live action set pieces in the first film were hard to do, had to be done in front of the camera and were honest with an audience who believed they were real. CGI used badly, as in some cases in this last film, can break the laws of physics, and believability because the art director wants to juice up an action scene.
"Listen, lady, you seem fun" - she is not.
+ 1,000,000 sins for this movie being made in the first place.
This movie did not look like it cost 300 million dollars to make
The digital de-aging probably.
If they had to use time travel it should have been this: Indy wants the dial because he sees it as an opportunity to change something in his past. A mistake he made. While seeking the dial in the present we flash back to the series of events in the past which led to the mistake. In the flashback we see Indy do something stupid like punch through a window and cut his arm. The scene cuts to the scar on old Indy, Indy smirks and breaks the window with a brick. Show how old Indy learned from the past and grew as a person. Indy finally gets to go back in time after finding the dial. He watches his past self about to make the mistake and starts to intervene. Then he remembers his dad saying "Let it go, son". He smiles. Turns the dial, disappears and the camera cuts to young Indy riding off into adventure. Cue music.
But it does make sense at the end, we see Indiana Jones grow into a 93 year old historian
When?
@@mejercitThe Young Indy Adventures from the 90s
I personally felt like the young Indie was the only well done part of the entire movie. The effects I mean.
The train sequence had its problems, but it was a kinetic form of wish fulfillment. Kinda.
Exactly 💯
Haven’t seen the movie, but when I heard it was released, I pictured Indy scurrying away from a giant rock ball with a walker.
Would probably been a better plot, actually.
I think more should have been addressed about Voller taking that sign post to the face _Hereditary_ style at the beginning considering he’s played by a Bond villain with a disfigurement. Also, no _Mission: Impossible_ clips in the audio outtakes?! They did fight on top of a train.
Incidentally, there _were_ Nazis who tried to kill Hitler as depicted in _Valkyrie_ and, wow! More Tom Cruise references!😟
Correction: Jones didn’t have his heart taken out, it was that one dude where they did that. Though, let’s face it, who wouldn’t have wanted to see brainwashed Indy pull out Willie’s heart before they started dropping her into the fires below?😏
it is, but later on 10:00
To be fair the Archer outtake is a spoof of MI1 anyway
@@iddqdvie I said “more” should have been said not simply anything be said. You know how these guys really like to tear into physics some times. It’s be like sinning _Goldeneye_ with how Trevelyan should have died on impact on the Cradle floor and not lay there crippled with enough breath to scream at the structure coming down upon him when in reality he’d have likely splattered or at least bursted apart into pieces.
@@phoenixdzk Honestly, with the sign to the face Voller receives, at this point, a _Speed_ reference might have been more fitting.
@@MichaelAarons1701 oh yeah, Ryan George did say he got Dennis Hoppered
Things that seemed illogical to me:
1. Dr. Jürgen Voller, why hasn't he aged a bit over the years? Perhaps the directors should have addressed this in the film. The trick with eternal youth
2. on the train, Dr. Jürgen Voller was hit by that train thing and has no wounds. At first I thought if they didn't show them on his face it might be a limp, but not even that....
3. when Indiana Jones rides off on a horse at 05:09, Mason takes off on foot. In the movie, Indiana and his pursuers cover a very long distance. But somehow Mason manages to reach them on foot xD.
When I saw the movie, I thought that Mason can either teleport or is the Flash and is super fast.
But there are so many other things that seemed illogical to me, more than in any other movie.... Except for The Marvels... I'm already looking forward to the video from CinemaSins about The Marvels
For number one, apparently they did de-age Mads. And upon second watch I think they have. He just has one of those faces that made him look older when he was younger, and younger now he's older. But when I saw it in cinema, I was thinking the exact same thing.
@@amadandearbhte4318My whole family noticed Mads was de-aged right when he showed up. So obviously the two characters being de-aged here are going to be the only ones still alive in the present. Then we got to the train part and were like, "Mads Mikkelsen survives this?!", "I'm sure he'll have some sort of facial disfigurement in the later scenes..."
He did not.
1: You can clearly see he has aged. In the opening he is in his early 30's. In the 1969 part he is in his 50's.
2: He has a scar on his forehead.
3: Not every single detail need explanation in a film. For all we know she may have jumped on any kind of transportation on the way to get there as fast as possible.
@@ChilianaJones A little tiny scar after being hit by a massive and solid metal crossbar right in the face at presumably 100 - 120 KM/H. Yeah, right. Sure, movies don't have to explain EVERYTHING, but if the suspension of disbelief does a stretch from Europe to China you don't need to accord to ANYTHING in a movie.
Having a guy shot in his head with a .44 Magnum at point blank range? HE SURVIVES!
Being impaled by a spear from botom to top? Why not survive this too!
Why have a film at all?
Let's just right after the opening credits roll the ending credits! Nobody has ever done this before! ART!
Or in short: Since humans are STILL humans in the Indy franchise and not robots that REALLY is stretching the suspension of disbelief several times around the globe until it snaps.
@@Justforvisit People have actually survived crazier things in real life than what Voller did in the film.
The fact you didn’t sin this more is a sin
He never even cleared his name which was his whole motivation to go on the adventure and the people who did are all dead in the past
13:12 Indy did NOT have his heart pulled out of his chest. SIN
I really liked this movie, but killing Antonio Banderas was absolutely criminal
Also, the fact that the character Helena shows little care for his death is even more insulting.
Exactly Antonio Banderas being killed is crazy 😧
@@osmanyousif7849 Exactly it made me dislike her more
"Regarding Henry" 6:12 WAS RIGHT THERE!!!!
5:39 "A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to."
Can’t wait for Indiana Jones 6! Indiana Jones, and the retirement home mystery!
Lmao!
Will Indy be able to find his car keys before the early bird special ends?
Find out, coming Spring 2031!
"Oh my gawd! I heard this place was a myth, Indy!"
"Yes. Welcome to.....THE OLDE COUNTRY BUFFET! Now get the hell outta my way. I gotta pee."
GOD DAMN IT
@@jimb.7523 proceeds to ride a horse into the bathroom
Indy said he doesn’t believe in magic despite using magic to get off that train in Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade.
Sinning Cinema Sins: Indy would not have burned his hands on the gold disc. Wax melts at a very low temperature, alcohol burns at a very low temperature (hot enough to melt wax) and heat itself travels upward. There would have been minimal heat transference into the gold disc and even if it had been fully absorbed it had mere seconds to burn before going out. This would not have done more than slightly warm the edges, making up physics to award a sin is worth a sin.
The Germans were not ambushing the kid through some psychic preparedness. They were watching their men inspect the stolen boat that they knew Indy and co. had gotten there on, and were actively looking for them to return to it. Making up an elaborate ambush and then sinning it is definitely a sin.
"How did these guys get off the boat that was detonated in the middle of nowhere?" We literally saw a scene where they were doing exactly that. Pretending a scene doesn't exist to award a sin is worth a sin.
"What the hell makes you think he can just suddenly fly airplanes?" Because the character was introduced practicing how to fly an airplane in a junked-together setup that an actual pilot was giving him instructions on. Ignoring a basic part of the character's introduction to the movie is worth a sin.
You missed one BIG sin. Indy talked to Archimedes in modern Greek and not in ancient Greek. Languages evolve, Archimedes wouldn't understand a single word.
The biggest sin of this movie is how miserable the scene after the train sequence and Old Indy’s and Old Indy himself is.
I didn't care for this one. But I would have absolutely taken a sin off for Salalah pining for the old days, and for indy mourning his son
Say what you will about the film, but they did give Indy and genuine arc in this film and let Harrison Ford use his acting ability outside of just being all action (which is kind of what you needed to do when Ford is 80).
@@brandonhicks9926 EXACTLY
After watching this movie i have come to the conclusion that we were too hard on Kingsom of the Crystal Skulls
My sentiment exactly.
Wasn't Harrison Ford in another Movie where he ran through the St Patrick's Day Parade? The movie about Provasic?
The Indy cgi actually looked good on the frame you paused it at in the beginning.
I'm from Syracusa and the place where they shot is not Syracusa. It's a mix up of places in Sicily... At least they could have been a bit more accurate in their location
I've been several times to Syracusa and for sure the ear of dionysius is correct. You can visit it easily, although the cave is quite short and has no openings in the back.
CIA operating on US soil: Ding!
Skeletons still intact after hundreds of years: Ding!
"Run for president level age" lol 😆
Only 17 min? Should have been double this at least 😂
Unlike the filmmakers, he knew how to keep it brief.
You can trash this film for 2, 3 hours! 😆
Phoebe Waller-Bridge deserves 1000 sins alone.
Definitely missed your chance to say “Get Off My Plane”
No sin for the fact that they LITERALLY wrote out Indy’s son who we JUST met in Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (I think that was the last movie in sequence before this) presumably because they couldn’t get a contract for somebody and replaced him with a female lead instead!? SO THEY KILLED HIM OFF FOR DRAMA?! HELLO?!?
Justice for Junior!!!
Jeremy and cinemasins continue to make videos that are better than the God Damn movies. Happy Holidays. 🎅🌲🙏
So is Indy still wanted for questioning?
The map animation is supposed to make me believe that tiny yacht was so full of fuel it was able to travel the open ocean from Greece to Sicily
Damn! You mentioned Harrison Ford being a fugitive and didn't even mention the namesake! Slipping.
I went to see this in the theater as a huge Indiana Jones fan. There were a lot of elderly people in the theater and all of them fell asleep towards the end and quite frankly I wish I did.
How did you like this fifth and final Indiana Jones movie?
:(
Personally, I really enjoyed it. What didn't you like about it?
@@amadandearbhte4318 Mainly what they did with Indie's character. They framed the movie as him getting that spark of adventure back and going on one more grand quest but instead he's just a depressed husk being dragged everywhere.
Another theater, only had about six people….
@@thebaxman4459 I didn't. I was a fan of the original trilogy.
Omg that centipedes scene gave me chills I've got a big phobia ever since I found one crawling up my sleeve it was only 2.5 Inches but it terrified me.
Never watch "Temple of Doom" then 😅
ALSO Voller survives not only falling off a moving train 100 feet in the air but also from getting smacked in the head by a damn water tower, even if he DIDN'T go to Matrix-school-of-dodging-things! Also no scars!
I’m sure this has been commented already, but you left out the part where he knocks out a Nazi driver, and the two officers entering the car immediately after somehow don’t notice the limp body lying right outside the drivers’ seat.
I love cinemasins but they left out so much more, including the comments the heroes in the comments made about the Nazis running the show, preventing people from speaking their minds. I only say positive thing so this doesn't get filtered. Can't believe they tried so little with this movie (video) Edit: I'm going to try to speak my mind since this comment is up, while I can unless they delete it- cinemasins is filtering any positive comments about this movie and filtering any critiques of their work preventing them from being seen. I wrote a whole paragraph about the laziness of this video on multiple accounts from multiple devices in different locations because this bothered me so much, and every time the comments never went live. Until this one, where I say how much I love cinemasins! Indiana Jones is terrible in this movie. Then all of the sudden it goes through, WTF is this communist russia or something
"Spread the blame around" = GENIUS 😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏
The entire movie is a sin. It’s an abomination. I will never forgive Disney for destroying Indiana Jones.
6:20 - Hard to believe nowadays, but in the olden days (even as late as the early '90s) you could walk up to a ticket counter in an airport, buy a ticket without ID, and fly on a plane. And for international flights, nobody cared about ID until customs on the other side of the flight.
Was anyone else hoping that when Indy kicked the Colonel from the carriage he'd say, "GET OFF MY TRAIN"
"Wilhelm Nazis" just reminds me of my secret desire to have a WWI movie where a Wilhelm Scream comes from the Kaiser himself
Good thing you did this movie! This movie… IS SUCH A MESS!
11:42 The man who DOESN'T believe in magic was tortured with voodoo...
I love whenever a movie doesn't explain something, you call it "yadda yadda"-ing. So funny!
God damn this film was such a slog, but listen chief imma need you to Sin the following; Lake Placid, Doom, Titan A.E. , and Eight Legged Freaks
I would really enjoy a Titan AE sinning. I LOVED that movie as a kid. I watched it again during lockdown and whew.
I know dude, i cant believe it STILL hits as hard as it did@thefriesofLockeLamora