Copper Recovery From Massive Generator Stator
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- čas přidán 8. 06. 2024
- In today's video I split 2 Massive Stators from large v6 generators. The electric motor/stator recycling machine is doing an awesome job so far and we are only getting started. Thanks for watching! #transformers #electric #electricmotor #recycling #scrapping #scrap #copperwire #aluminum #diy #projectshopfl #copperking #led #ledlights #lighting #generator #statorwindingmachine #electricmotor
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May not always see the vision but we all know if we had to bet on the outcome, you lads are always gonna find a way to make it work! Happy days and part of the interest is the process, we know your gonna get the copper but it’s the how that keeps us watching! Happy days 🎉🎉
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Steve hit the big time! In the thumbnail!
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Lookin' good. Nothing beats a kludged together machine. Ripping out copper, cutting stuff in half. I love it!
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Thanks for showing me how I can do the bigger units, with less effort!
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love your video❤please do some micro scrapping😢love from Mauritius island❤
Thanks I will
It’s just scrap.😮 I thought it was going to fly out. 👍
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oh man that split them just like hot butter for sure i think it made it alot easyer to get the copper out too thanks for shareing
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You ever walk into a retail store where they have those pegboard panels with the wire rods for hanging depths of packets or whatever? As you're working with heavier stators you might want to consider that kind of leverage and make a quick remove safety bar hangs across the lower part. The way those odd sheets connect the two pieces of chopped stator got my spidey sense tingling. You start gettin bold on that thing, it's a lot of weight coming free, I'm sure you get a little eagle-eyed about the end of that split. Thinkin of the times you might be doin this work solo, you might catch one, but if it drags the other and that steel hooks the arm or anything, could be serious. Loose heavy things that roll are a cause for composite-toe boots, things happen, consider a crossbar, shouldn't need to be too heavy.
Far as the little ones, still thinkin about that one. Best I can think of for now would look something like an eyelash trimmer the size of that puller plier, but with some nails welded about the arc to get under the windings. Two toothed arcs on a scissor and that new double V-clamp setup. idk if the more even pull would strain the gear or make it easier, that's a trial n error to be seen. Or now that I think about it maybe something like a modified bearing puller.
Thanks for the suggestion, I still have a few upgrades to do for holding the big stators.
Some of your ideas are iffy but I love it you always get them to work out in the end
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Nice work. Now you can do these in all kind of sizes! Love this!
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@@ProjectShopFl You are welcome!
Epic video! The small blade is perfect for the small stators just need a wide blade for the big stators and you could split both kinds in one go! Awesome work! Now you just need a full time supply of big motors and wire! 😉
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Hi Derek, An idea - once the donuts are in the press... paint some oil on the inside. The paper sleeves will soak up the oil and dissolve some of the shellac. Should make pulling a little easier. Great video. Thumbs up! Safety first. Jim
Thanks Jim!
Plasma cut a couple plus signs on the table like tow trucks have on flat beds to lock chains into. No need for vice.
Thanks for the suggestion
I know you love your sketchy stuff but this is next level 🤕🤣
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Thanks for another upload letting all of us be there with y'all working in the shop. Appreciate ya. I'm sure you have about 10 millions of ideas and improvements you could see working or plausible every minute you're watching your machine working on the job. I was wondering if you'd ever visualized the machine flipped upside down. Kinda like a table saw and not at all like a table saw at the same time. Approaching the split from underneath pushing the cutter up and through the "job." Might work pretty decent for sure on the chain vise holding method I heard you mention using. Could probably even fabricate you some different jigs for different sized stators to place on top and secure with the chain vise. It be a solid hold and also easy to unclamp rotate the job and repeate. The cutter would less likely to be damaged too since it'd be backing out of the job not pulling away from it. One more unqualified idea. Is you're cutter a wedge (spreader) in design or like a paper cutter (slicer) with a flat side and the other honed down half wedge to a semi-thin super sharp point? Anyways I appreciate you and Steve. Thanks.
Thanks for the suggestions. The blade will be a larger version of what I have now.
You have got to be real careful with those puller handles if you get a finger or hand in there you will be going to hospital. Great vid as usual. Loving the setup
Thanks for the concern
You are getting there , trial and error . Rome wasn't built in a day nor was stator and rotor extractors . Awesome results so far Derek , stay safe and don't give up .
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You might not have to change much. You know the blade isn't the only thing that can move. You could have another press up pushing the stators into the blade...you'd still have the speed issue but maybe less work...
I love the press already. Can't wait for the big blade
Thanks I plan on getting better hydraulics
Hell yeah big boy shit ! Probably gonna be easier to pull the copper from the smaller motors by hand once they're split
Some were easy some needed the puller
Awesome, viewing from County SLIGO Ireland 🇮🇪 🇺🇦🤠🚲📷✍
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Have you considered turning the whole splitting assy 90 degrees. Then you could pull the copper windings out while it is still retained in place by the blade
As they are cut I mean . There shouldn’t be too much force on the blade if you leave it in place
If I could get the press to hold them that would be a good ida but I would not want to be pulling on that $500 blade some of the stators pull real hard.
If you split them longitudinal instead of circumferential you could roll them out decreasing the friction on the wire.
Thanks for the suggestion
@@ProjectShopFl I hope it works and helps you.
Man, awesome job on the splitter
.. butt I take those smaller motors, after u cut the one side of with a Sawzall.. I just crap the copper with channel locks an hit the steel with a happer.. comes right out.. but the big motors.. I daknow man.. but u Daman man
The smaller ones are definitely easier when split but the big ones are a different story I would not want to do it with out the hydraulics
I do these with a 7" angle grinder. Cut the copper around one side the use the claw end of a hammer hitting and pulling the copper out of the side with the steel. if it sticks I free it up with a blunt chisel.
Thanks for sharing
Goes to the scrap yard. Hey you got any AC compressors I can buy. I ran out of oil 😂. I'm kidding my friend
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Instead of a chain vice just weird a beefy tab with a slot that will take a chain link on its side and wield a length of chain to other side
Thanks for the suggestion
I wonder if a stop parallel to the stator would index it in the same cut sort of like the fence on a tablesaw
Possibly thanks for the suggestion
Use the plasma cutter on everything.
I would but Steave burned up the tips.
That blade should be like 2 feet long with no point like a gelatin so it stays in the same slot the point doesn't stay in the same slot when it hits the table thats why it crushes it
Thanks for the suggestion
Ever think of welding some rebars and placing them on the side of the hydraulic system (opposite to the puller)? That way you're just pulling against the I-beams and don't need to squash/compress the stators.
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I haven't but thanks for the suggestion
make the blade rotatable, if one side gets blunt, turn it to the other and you will have continuous work, and you can sharpen it after the job;
it is alrddy lol
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I could do that cause I know how to pick crabs !
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Pozdrawiam serdecznie z Polski 🇵🇱👍👍👍 good job 👍👍👍
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Make a four way gripper so you can make it whit one pull time in video 41 min
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It might work on the loose ones but some are hard to pull and have to do one strain at a time.
If you cut the little ropes with a hook blade they will come out easier
Thanks for the suggestion
Would heating the copper from inside the coil with a propane torch before attempting to pull the copper make it come out easier by softening the shellac?
Yes but I should not have to do that when splitting them in half
Double roller shredder on emu 1400
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Hopefully you know at what point in the video I comment. Cut that in one spot press it flat and everything should fall out!
I don't think flatting is gonna be good as it might free some up but it will pinch others
13:30 It doesn't have any force on the up stroke? Just put two pieces of metal in between stator and top V, it would push itself off on up stroke..?
Also think you may need a "U" instead of a "V" on that bottom to avoid deforming the small ones...
On the first split it is wedged in tight and thanks for the suggestion
@@ProjectShopFl Hell yeah man. Awesome seeing this come together. I can't imagine what I'd be thinking if I walked past the shop and just saw that big ass blade on that big ass machine. So cool. Also, in terms of the top "V"/"U", for smaller stators, are you just gonna pop it right into the blade holder?
then u get alot or prepared steel to
Yes!
How about flipping it so the blade comes from the bottom?
Interesting idea thanks.
Dumb question... 🤔 How do they get all that copper wound up in there in the first place?
From the videos I've seen by hand. It is actually pretty cool to see.
how profitable are stators compared to wire stripping or transformers in turns of hr rate?
I don't know I will log it next time I get a bunch
Love your videos!! I'd love to ask you some questions. I own my own scrap metal company
Thanks you can email me @ Projectshopfl@gmail.com
@@ProjectShopFl I sent you an email a couple days ago. I really really appreciate you taking your time to read it!
Good evening my friend, I want to start a project to separate and sort metals from the electric motor. How much operator space do I need and is your operator space sufficient?
It depends on how big you want to be, if I was just doing electric motors why space would be fine bet I have a lot going on and need a bigger space.
Thanks for the answer
Would a 4in piece of steel stock with a slot cut into it work
Probably would
What's the total amount paid out in scrap per big boy motor like that?
I will track that on the next one.
Cut that stator in one spot splay it flat . Try that in a future video.
Thanks for the suggestion
Hey Derek. Missed another live stream. I sent you an email a week ago. Check it out. Thanks man!
Ok I will thanks!
Your hydraulic cylinder is backwards. It will have more power if you can configure the cylinder to push instead of pull.
Thanks I know I'm not done with the build.
@@ProjectShopFl Love the videos.
The fact you have to reach over the table to turn on/off the splitter is a bit....dangerous? cool shit tho
I have to reach to change the direction I have a foot pedal for on and off
@@ProjectShopFl aight brother, i was just worried about you
@@lofty822 Thanks!
Can you buy one machine made in China only 10 minutes all prosise anyway nice video thanks
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I have never held a stader in my hand but why do you cut the steel part? Why not let that machine cut off the back end of the copper where the steel ends like where you cut it with a blade. That machine would go through that like butter
2 smaller parts to pull the copper out.
On the big ones sometimes pilling through so much steel is a problem and I've had to burn them in the past. splitting them makes it so easy
The biggest problem is the dimensions of your blade aren't even, your probably getting the best cut you can already.
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That Steve done some serious drugs though the years 😂top vid as allways
I think he's still on them 😂
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Thanks, I will measure the chain
whe notjust cut one side of the copper off and use the puller to get the rest of the copper
Because it sometimes is extremely hard to pull the cope from the big stators and splitting them in the middle makes half as hard.
Does not look like a cost effective system.
Thanks for the feed back
Not yet. He's still working out the kinks. This is Version 1.3 Withhold judgement until the final production line.