They both have their strong points that make them unique and intense in their gameplay aspect. **Wo Long Fallen Dynasty** Simplified Combat Air Combat Presentation (Fluid gameplay animation) Level Design No Stamina **Nioh** Extreme Depth Combat Gameplay Variety Combo potential Techs
Great video, but still I feel we shouldn't compare them, Nioh had one idea behind and Wo Long has another, however it is nice that you made this video, cause people tend to call it Nioh 3 and clearly they is just another new IP and game which is so far super nice!
From what I have seen so far - I agree both have their own unique aspects - lets not compare but we can safely say its not Nioh 3 - but we all look forward to Nioh 3 whenever TN decides to make it :) Thanks for the video Master Samurai!
Thank you for showing gameplay of Wo Long for how it's designed to be played, with all those consecutive dodges, kinda like Sekiro. Other gameplay videos would just play it like Dark Souls and they really did not do a good job of showcasing the game because of that.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people will prefere this game combat system to Nioh, because it's more streamlined and it looks like an improved version of Sekiro (I also see some concepts from Stranger of Paradise). For me though, this game looks like a HUGE downgrade from Nioh combat system, way less technical, there's less movement, less variety, less room for the player to experiement and freestyle. I see that Koei Tecmo is trying to cater to a different audience and I understand it, but frankly I don't feel any need to buy a PS5 or upgrade my pc to play this game (and frankly I didn't like Stranger as well). I hope we will still see a new Nioh game but at this point my hopes are not high.
@@darkblood4078 I dont really want Nioh 3, I want a new game that has its combat but different setting and removes Nioh's awful loot system in favor of meaningful gear
opinion from a 20min demo, do you always base your choices on such limited information? Nioh 1 and 2 is known, Wo Long not - Nioh 1 and 2 have strong points but a BS looting system with random stats and a huge grind - that is not a definition of a good game for me, I rather have a Dark Souls 4 than a Nioh 3 with all the information i know
@@harakiri23 Why even compare souls and Nioh. Nioh is a deep combat game, souls is basic af with combat but it’s amazing worlds and enemies etc. Thats why I am worried about wo long. it looks simplified and streamlined and I would rather it was crazy deep like Nioh 2
Concordo, o sistema de postura é genial, as dezenas de skills, armas que são suas próprias classes, parries, etc, acho que só DMC5 se compara a Nioh no quesito complexidade e variedade de combos, mecânicas, etc
@@wallacesousuke1433 se DMC5 for assim vou jogar porque eu tentei jogar Elden ring o combate me desanimou eu fiz level 1 nele mas a mecânica de lutra é muito lerda no Elden ring eu nem consigo jogar mais pegar esse DMC5 aí pra mim ver valeu aí pela dica
I just realized that Wo Long's camera angle when you are locked onto enemies is the same angle that was in the Nioh 1 alpha. I really hope it stays that way. If there's one thing I could change about Nioh 1 and 2, it's that the camera angle when you lock on isn't helpful for group fights because so much of the camera just stares at the ground, whereas the Nioh 1 alpha's camera angle for locked on combat was more like a Zelda game.
contrary to what I've been reading in some articles, Nioh looks faster paced and smoother than Wo Long. I couldn't play the demo so I don't know how it feels but I hope we'll see Nioh 3 some day and rather sooner than later, there are several aspects that make me prefer Nioh over Wo Long from what we've seen so far, but I guess it's better to wait for the final version to judge
Yea, while there are some Nioh aspect that brings meaningful depth to the gameplay, Wo Long brings its own flavor to cater wider audience. Still I do look forward how the game will do for the final version
Nioh > SOPFFO > Wo Long Wo Long isn't a bad action game overall but disappointed no stance not deep Combat has a lot of problems VALKYRIE ELYSIUM＞Wo Long
I loved that heaven flash over the iron ball Onryoki threw. I agree with you though. The combat for both games is good. Nioh I felt is a little more technical, but Wo Long is definitely faster paced. You definitely feel when you screw up in both games pretty distinctly.
Curious to know if wether or not camera movement is considered a viable option for " critiquing " .... have to say , shit looks messed up to track let alone the pressure on the players eyes.
@@DanGleebals57 actually looking at how jumpy the combat is I don’t mind. Stances would probably overcomplicate things. I can see myself using one handed sword and staff. I’ll jump around like a monkey and cast spells.
i loved stances in Ghost of Tsushima, but till to this day its a bit hard to manage the KI and switching stances, thats why i played but them leaved Nioh 1 ...Nioh 2 with more weapon variety i like very much ... but i cant figured out the KI management ... so i prefer more soulslike combat ...or Sekiro combat ....but i really want to to get along with that KI so i can enjoy Nioh 2 ....it will get better with equipment ? i know there are many videos where to learnt that thing ... but can i get one .. the most importmant advice on that pls ? ..
Awesome video. You can see the differences between the two, but that's kinda the point. The similarities that remain still convey the whole 'nioh 3' idea. Which is fine, it's great! Nioh in China! Sure it's a different combat style but steath attacks remain, out of ki remains, grapples remain and the flow of running around. It is alot simpler combat wise but the ki system is complimented y stance switching and a skill tree. Either way, I loved nioh and I'm buying wo long.
Nioh has a very complex depth gameplay, there is just no limit on how you can play the game while Wo Long is more simplified I guess? That's what my first impression are... but I totally welcome it! I always felt Nioh and Nioh 2 is a bit too complex for my taste.
As much as i love Nioh series, I think Black Myth Wukong is gonna be a huge hit that'll devour Wo Long, they took thier time optimizing it 2years after demo. Both gonna be released at the beginning of the year. I hope both will be unique and amazing
nah, Black Myth Wukong looks like a generic hack n slash but with a good presentation and awesome graphics, nothing new or really that makes me buy it instead of Wo long in the end, they are very different games that share very similar ideas but will attract different audiences
Good point Black myth Wukong is a Sekiro ripoff but the game that worries me is project perceiver and I love Yakuza so like a dragon Ishin is a game I am following.
One weapon has many moves in Nioh, making it more interesting to play with variety. Even though I wish I could bring two weapons into play, using two weapon would be too overwhelming for this video in my taste.
@@LasttoLoad yup that was something I liked from Automata, how you can use two weapons and combine them, I wish there were more games with that option, on Nioh is hard to switch weapons mid combo unless you have the Odachi for example.
Wo Long will be a good game but its still Nioh for me. Nioh 2 particularly. They put a fixed weapon skill in Wo long which is a downgrade. At least no more farming for skill! No crouch when they put an assasin build in character option. this is more Sekiro, than Nioh, IMO.
I would say the simplicty and focus on speed for this game comes from the intended invasion system this one will have... but if you look at the speed of the player character compared to most enemies..can anyone claim to be able to react to this, aside from prediction..? I played all souls games with pvp and enjoyed pvp in all of them...i can clearly follow the enemies movements after a while...but the player character is way too fast by looking at this. Hopefully i will adapt towards the speed.
They both have their strong points that make them unique and intense in their gameplay aspect.
**Wo Long Fallen Dynasty**
Simplified Combat
Air Combat
Presentation (Fluid gameplay animation)
Level Design
No Stamina
**Nioh**
Extreme Depth Combat
Gameplay Variety
Combo potential
Techs
what is Techs?
@@lifelesscorpse7365 like canceling animations
As a big fan of Nioh i totally agreed .
Great video, but still I feel we shouldn't compare them, Nioh had one idea behind and Wo Long has another, however it is nice that you made this video, cause people tend to call it Nioh 3 and clearly they is just another new IP and game which is so far super nice!
They already call it Nioh 3. What are you talking about ? Just search Nioh 3 in youtube, boy.
@@Azura2910arpg I’ve seen plenty of reviewers call wo long nioh 3. So that’s probably what he’s talking about lol
@@Azura2910arpg facepalm
From what I have seen so far - I agree both have their own unique aspects - lets not compare but we can safely say its not Nioh 3 - but we all look forward to Nioh 3 whenever TN decides to make it :) Thanks for the video Master Samurai!
Wo Long's not bad. it's just much simpler that I would like it to be. So it's probably a pass for me, until a sale or something.
Few good points is that it has five elements meta and pvp. its interesting to see this new direction.
Thank you for showing gameplay of Wo Long for how it's designed to be played, with all those consecutive dodges, kinda like Sekiro. Other gameplay videos would just play it like Dark Souls and they really did not do a good job of showcasing the game because of that.
I'm pretty sure a lot of people will prefere this game combat system to Nioh, because it's more streamlined and it looks like an improved version of Sekiro (I also see some concepts from Stranger of Paradise). For me though, this game looks like a HUGE downgrade from Nioh combat system, way less technical, there's less movement, less variety, less room for the player to experiement and freestyle. I see that Koei Tecmo is trying to cater to a different audience and I understand it, but frankly I don't feel any need to buy a PS5 or upgrade my pc to play this game (and frankly I didn't like Stranger as well). I hope we will still see a new Nioh game but at this point my hopes are not high.
Hopefully, we will see Nioh 3 after Rise of Ronin, their next Sony exclusive title. I prefer them to take their time making it instead of rushing it.
@@LasttoLoad I'm not saying I want them to rush Nioh 3, I just hope we will see it come to light anytime.
@@darkblood4078 I dont really want Nioh 3, I want a new game that has its combat but different setting and removes Nioh's awful loot system in favor of meaningful gear
@@wallacesousuke1433 as long as it has Nioh 2 combat system, I'm all in for it, I hate loot.
the only thing I don't like about this game is that some attack feel like they don't even touch the enemy
I would take a nioh 3 over wo long any day
I want a game that has Nioh's combat system but not its looting system or setting
I agree
opinion from a 20min demo, do you always base your choices on such limited information? Nioh 1 and 2 is known, Wo Long not - Nioh 1 and 2 have strong points but a BS looting system with random stats and a huge grind - that is not a definition of a good game for me, I rather have a Dark Souls 4 than a Nioh 3 with all the information i know
@@harakiri23 Why even compare souls and Nioh. Nioh is a deep combat game, souls is basic af with combat but it’s amazing worlds and enemies etc. Thats why I am worried about wo long. it looks simplified and streamlined and I would rather it was crazy deep like Nioh 2
@@harakiri23 Nioh 2 has better character creator. I can play for hours because I think my character looks cool.
nioh é a melhor mecânica de combate nada se compara troca de postura e tudo mais as agilidades e combos nioh é melhor
Exactly... complex combat mechanic made Nioh so fun.
Concordo, o sistema de postura é genial, as dezenas de skills, armas que são suas próprias classes, parries, etc, acho que só DMC5 se compara a Nioh no quesito complexidade e variedade de combos, mecânicas, etc
@@wallacesousuke1433 se DMC5 for assim vou jogar porque eu tentei jogar Elden ring o combate me desanimou eu fiz level 1 nele mas a mecânica de lutra é muito lerda no Elden ring eu nem consigo jogar mais pegar esse DMC5 aí pra mim ver valeu aí pela dica
I just realized that Wo Long's camera angle when you are locked onto enemies is the same angle that was in the Nioh 1 alpha. I really hope it stays that way. If there's one thing I could change about Nioh 1 and 2, it's that the camera angle when you lock on isn't helpful for group fights because so much of the camera just stares at the ground, whereas the Nioh 1 alpha's camera angle for locked on combat was more like a Zelda game.
contrary to what I've been reading in some articles, Nioh looks faster paced and smoother than Wo Long. I couldn't play the demo so I don't know how it feels but I hope we'll see Nioh 3 some day and rather sooner than later, there are several aspects that make me prefer Nioh over Wo Long from what we've seen so far, but I guess it's better to wait for the final version to judge
Yea, while there are some Nioh aspect that brings meaningful depth to the gameplay, Wo Long brings its own flavor to cater wider audience. Still I do look forward how the game will do for the final version
Hey I really hope you dont mind me asking, but in ur thumbnail, where did u find that pic for Nioh? Looks really cool
I found it as a wall paper by searching in google image.
Here is the image link: imgur.com/a/ajngSAw
@@LasttoLoad sorry for the late reply lmao, life isn't going so well atm.
Thank you for the reply king 👑
I hope Wo Long succeeds so it can fund the actually good game - Nioh 3.
dude u made that Big dude looks like a joke in wo long , the guy before boss. Nice
Nioh > SOPFFO > Wo Long
Wo Long isn't a bad action game overall
but disappointed
no stance
not deep
Combat has a lot of problems
VALKYRIE ELYSIUM＞Wo Long
I loved that heaven flash over the iron ball Onryoki threw. I agree with you though. The combat for both games is good. Nioh I felt is a little more technical, but Wo Long is definitely faster paced. You definitely feel when you screw up in both games pretty distinctly.
The music is very similar, which is kind of disappointing, but I'll still try Wo Long. Hopefully a new demo comes.
Curious to know if wether or not camera movement is considered a viable option for " critiquing " .... have to say , shit looks messed up to track let alone the pressure on the players eyes.
nioh is still my favorite, although wo long is not a bad game
I always felt like it was the humanoid bosses that set Nioh apart, so I'm much more curious about what that would look like
Humans in Nioh are definitely more complex, but also easily abused with zero ki combo. Wo long gives humans a fighting chance.
I’m just gonna say lu bu exist in this game :)
@@blackhole.9226 who is lolo bobo ?
I think I know what I would play next year while waiting for FF XVI.
They both look great. I am just wondering if they removed high low and middle stances. That was my favorite part of nioh combat.
Sadly no more stance switching. Not a part of Wo Long
@@DanGleebals57 actually looking at how jumpy the combat is I don’t mind. Stances would probably overcomplicate things. I can see myself using one handed sword and staff. I’ll jump around like a monkey and cast spells.
i loved stances in Ghost of Tsushima, but till to this day its a bit hard to manage the KI and switching stances, thats why i played but them leaved Nioh 1 ...Nioh 2 with more weapon variety i like very much ... but i cant figured out the KI management ... so i prefer more soulslike combat ...or Sekiro combat ....but i really want to to get along with that KI so i can enjoy Nioh 2 ....it will get better with equipment ? i know there are many videos where to learnt that thing ... but can i get one .. the most importmant advice on that pls ? ..
Wo long is masterpiece
Awesome video. You can see the differences between the two, but that's kinda the point. The similarities that remain still convey the whole 'nioh 3' idea. Which is fine, it's great! Nioh in China! Sure it's a different combat style but steath attacks remain, out of ki remains, grapples remain and the flow of running around. It is alot simpler combat wise but the ki system is complimented y stance switching and a skill tree. Either way, I loved nioh and I'm buying wo long.
The camera is crappy in wolong
hoho this is nioh 2 with parry mechanic
Tại sao Nhà sản xuất không làm thanh Ki như Nioh?
Wo Long ist very cool i want this Game. But Nioh is better, Nioh is Love
It has been my favorite game since 2017!
@@LasttoLoad 😁👍
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Nioh has a very complex depth gameplay, there is just no limit on how you can play the game while Wo Long is more simplified I guess? That's what my first impression are... but I totally welcome it! I always felt Nioh and Nioh 2 is a bit too complex for my taste.
As much as i love Nioh series, I think Black Myth Wukong is gonna be a huge hit that'll devour Wo Long, they took thier time optimizing it 2years after demo. Both gonna be released at the beginning of the year. I hope both will be unique and amazing
nah, Black Myth Wukong looks like a generic hack n slash but with a good presentation and awesome graphics, nothing new or really that makes me buy it instead of Wo long
in the end, they are very different games that share very similar ideas but will attract different audiences
Good point Black myth Wukong is a Sekiro ripoff but the game that worries me is project perceiver and I love Yakuza so like a dragon Ishin is a game I am following.
Damnn
The movement reminds me of nioh and I like it
Weapon switching in Wo Long combat
However, in Nio's battle, the weapon is not switched
why?
Nioh can switch weapons and perform combos
Because there are very few combos in Wo Long, so he's compensating for it by switching weapons.
@@user-vt6td9hp3g correct answer
nioh＞＞＞Wo Long
One weapon has many moves in Nioh, making it more interesting to play with variety. Even though I wish I could bring two weapons into play, using two weapon would be too overwhelming for this video in my taste.
@@LasttoLoad yup that was something I liked from Automata, how you can use two weapons and combine them, I wish there were more games with that option, on Nioh is hard to switch weapons mid combo unless you have the Odachi for example.
NINJA GAIDEN 4
Wo long has shallower combat mechanics.. looks like it's closer to a brainless button mashing Devil May Cry rather than the souls genre..
I hope they just fix item drop in Wo Long. Nioh item drop just annoying, 99% of them are just trash.
Nioh has better graphics , not over saturated shit graphics
this looks like more a sekiro TN version
Wo Long will be a good game but its still Nioh for me. Nioh 2 particularly. They put a fixed weapon skill in Wo long which is a downgrade. At least no more farming for skill! No crouch when they put an assasin build in character option. this is more Sekiro, than Nioh, IMO.
The loot is supposedly more simplified which its good. the gameplay has some Sekiro and Nioh elements, but I wouldnt fully compare them to Wo Long.
The trend is different lots of games are taking ideas from Ghost of Tsushima instead.
No the same gameplay
There are to many special effects in nioh 2 and also the sound when you hit is repetitive and ugly
It is NIOH 3
Wo long seems is so similar to sekiro
I would say the simplicty and focus on speed for this game comes from the intended invasion system this one will have... but if you look at the speed of the player character compared to most enemies..can anyone claim to be able to react to this, aside from prediction..? I played all souls games with pvp and enjoyed pvp in all of them...i can clearly follow the enemies movements after a while...but the player character is way too fast by looking at this. Hopefully i will adapt towards the speed.