Power Consumption Test: Midea 8000 BTU Inverter Air Conditioner
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2023
- This is a power consumption test for the Midea 8000 BTU Inverter Air Conditioner. It was recommended as a low power cooling option, that will help conserve battery power during an outage.
Appreciate the test! With hurricane season coming up I was looking for something more efficient to use with my delta pro and portable solar panels! This looks like it will be perfect!
how many watts is your delta pro? I just got the anker f2600 and it came with 2 -200watt solar panels.. I am praying i can get 4hrs atleast 4 hrs of running time on full charge.. if i use the 2-200watt panels in daytime IF SUN is out- i am hoping i can go 8hrs.. whatcha think??
Awesome video. I purchased the 12k btu Midea U-shaped, from Costco manufactured in november 2023. It was on promo for $279.99 plus tax. What a deal!! Yes, very quiet unit. Haven’t officially tested the kWh on it yet. 15 CEER rating! I have seen other videos and these U-shape models have a lot of interesting/impressive electrical components inside, the heat sync is huge. Condensate is meant to cool the condenser coil so unit must be mounted with a certain degree of tilt. One thing the manual lacked but could be found on the box was not to run the unit just after shipping or having the unit on its side (which the average consumer may not know). I think the combination between the small design, electrical components and the use of R-32 refrigerant all make this unit a power saver. I have used this unit now for several weeks and am 100 percent satisfied with it! I made a plywood cut out and stuck it in my balcony window. When on high the fan can be reasonably felt at 15 feet away.
If anyone knows the decimal rating I would be interested in knowing, especially for the 12k btu unit.
I was wondering. Thank you for posting this
It cools based on the outside temperature, that's what determines the wattage used.
Just bought the ge Clearview window AC and it too is super quiet and efficient. Love it!
I think the way Eco mode works is that once the room is cooled to the set temperature it will completely shut off even the fan then turn back on once thr temperature rises again. In regular mode the compressor shuts down but the fan remains on.
No mention of the inverter's function
Yes. But I have suspicion that the compressor is actually throttled in these units. Old school units would be on/off for compressor. Just my hunch though.
I have watched many reviews of these units and it amazes me how many people, especially the ones making the videos, fail to even read basic information from that manual. They wouldn't be confused about what Eco does if they did.
@@3PhasePower The compressor is absolutely throttled. That's the reason for the inverter. Eco mode probably further plays with the throttling in addition to reduced fan usage as others mentioned.
I am on my way to buy an inverter window air conditioner at Amazon. Despite your video I read in reviews that installing this U-shaped air conditioner is rather laborious. However, once installed it gives you a lot of cooling power for your bedroom for the money! I am looking at a TCL 8,000 BTU window inverter air conditioner which is nice looking and should be similarly energy efficient. At just over 250W of power consumption on low fan speed with the compressor running and never reaching 500W on high, your Midea air conditioner is an example of a must-have for the summer heat!
I'm trying to figure out load calculations to not blow a breaker on a 15a circuit. Very helpful video, thank you!
well this is incorrect lol. another guy on youtube tested with a watt meter and it pulled up to 880 watts. almost 900.
it seems to pull more depending on the outside temp. iirc it was like 107 when that guy tested. unless missed it this guy didnt give any info on room temp, outside temp, or anything.
@@cryengine_x humidity affects it, too. I live in Florida, and sadly a typical 12,000 btu unit will draw 1500 watts when it's 90% humidity on a 95 degree day. It might draw more like 1200 or even 1000 if it's reasonable humidity like 60% but... it's Florida so that's rare.
Yea, I live in Florida and typical humidities are 90% plus overnight and 60% plus during the day. Summer temps (5 months out of the year) are low 90's during the day and only down to 80 at night. The humidity is the beast here.@@jetjazz05
Mine pulls about 550 at full load and then cycles the compressor on and off while still running. So a battery pack gets me about 5hrs and is super quiet because the motors are mainly outside
I have one of these. Bought it the winter time of 2022 or beginning of 2023. Has been in my trailer for about 1.5 years. It has been running most of the time except for winter when it is below 70 here. I just did a test to see how long it would run off my battery bank in my trailer. I have about 700 amp hours worth of battery power. I cooled the trailer to 70 degrees, shut off my solar charging and ran the unit set at 70 for 31 hours until my inverter shut off on low battery power. It was 83 to 88 ambient temp outside during the day and around 70 at night, and the trailer is not insulated. It maintained that set temp the entire time and ramped up when needed. Mostly pulled 200 watts up to 500 watts when needed. It is a great unit and is very quiet. My old inverter was louder than the air conditioner has ever been. My new inverter is so quiet that I can actually hear the blower running on the ac now.
Those are really good results, thanks for sharing. I'm guessing that's on a 12 volt bank? Also what inverter do you use and do you like it?
@@vladimus9749 It is a 12 volt lifepo4 battery bank. I have the cnswipower 3200 watt 12 volt inverter. I bought it on Ebay for about $240 I think, I would have to check on the price to be sure. It was about 25 dollars more on Amazon for the same one at the time. I watched a review of it on John Daniel youtube channel. I have known the fan on it to run one time so far and without looking at it, I would not have known it was running. I have a video of it when I tested it. I think I have 2 of them, one for the max wattage test.
@@vladimus9749 I do not know if I said I liked it in my first response, but I do like the inverter and the ac unit.
@@vladimus9749 I do not see my first reply, I may not have hit the send button. Happy to share good or bad issues with products I have. I have the cnswipower 3200 watt 12 volt inverter. It is good and I have had no issues with it. I purchased it based on John Daniel youtube reviews of them. I have a couple of videos on youtube on the inverter if you want to watch them. I replaced my 3000 watt inverter I got from tractor supply with it, the one from tractor supply was very loud. With the cnswipower one I can actually hear the ac blowing, the old one I could not hear the ac at all.
very educational. Thanks for posting.
How long were you able to run the AC before draining the battert?
great video
How long do you figure your Jackery 1500 could run the AC?
I'm thinking of using the Midea for an off grid camper. Is there a way to bypass the DC to AC inverter on the Jackery (or other battery) which then goes back to the Media inverter which I think is converting back from AC to DC and I wonder the final volts? Or is there a better DC air conditioner to use with my the charge controller connected to off-grid solar panels?
Or to look at it another way, if hot summer and the grid power is out, can a way be found to still use the AC?
Thanks for the video!
I believe the eco mode just means the ac unit will turn off when it gets to the set temperature. The fan turns off and compressor powers down, when the temp climbs again a degree or two over the set it'll turn back on. Cool mode the fan blows all the time and the compressor will turn on and off as needed. I just got my unit today so I'm letting it sit 24 hours before plugging it in, so I can't say for sure but I find eco mode tends to suck lol. It's a great idea but on my GE ac it'll turn off and the temperature can go 4 or 6 degrees higher than what I set. I live in Florida so it only takes half an hour for temps to climb 5 degrees in the room I have a window unit in.
ECO mode is very effective but, you have the demand temperature set to the lowest setting in this video. The unit is going to continue doing whatever it takes to achieve your requested temperature, 60F being unrealistically low to be running economically. These Midea units do not run the fan constantly when in eco mode. Instead, the fan will turn on in a low speed every once in a while to "feel" the room and keep air circulated.
Thanks. Makes sense
I didnt know these kinds of A/C's existed, and this is an issue im currently struggling with, ill be ordering my own window unit very soon, thanks for the info.
@@jebadaiah1228 please keep us updated how your installation goes.
@@davebean2886 got it, yesterday, was able to get some numbers.
For context my old AC was a few yrs old and at low fan setting / cool it would consume right around 900w
This new AC on low / Cool setting im looking at around 320w at high it seems to max out around 750w.
totally worth going this route as it consumes less power giving me more hrs of run time. both AC's were rated at 8000 BTU's same room.
@@davebean2886 spot on man, got the AC been enjoying it, for context my old AC was a regular non inverter off the shelf 8000 BTU's I was consuming 1000w with low fan speed and cool setting.
New AC on low with cool setting im looking at 300-350w even on high new AC is 750w max it seems.
Totally worth the few hundred dollar investment. not to mention the quietness of the new AC way better for sleeping.
@@jebadaiah1228I like a fairly noisy sound from an air conditioner when sleeping. I have one of these units being mailed to me. I will probably have to run my air purifier with is for the proper white noise my sleeping demands. 😊
mike- BIG TIME helpful.. so many other reviews are to detail.. so how long do u think your POWER CELL will run ac at night ?? 4hrs?? how many wat is your system?
thanks
how much was the room temperature before turning the ac on?
The Jackery used 2% of its power in just few minutes. How long does it last?
The great thing about this is (assuming you mount it to resist a powerful hurricane) you can have AC while the power is out and the storm is passing until you can get out and hook up a portable generator.
I also bought the Midea 8000 BTU July 2023 when my house AC went out. It is very cheap to operate. So that is a plus. But just turned it on first time in 2024 and not working. NOT COOLING and error code 07. Called customer support and they will not honor the warranty unless I send a copy of receipt. Which I don't have anymore. So for around $400 I got about 4 months use out of it. Also had mold issues as most customers are noticing on the blower fan. Not happy.
Buy another, switch it, then return for refund.
This is the perfect reason to never, EVER buy ANY appliances at local stores and instead buy them all online. This way you can always go to online store, check the purchase history and print out all the invoices/receipts you'll ever need.
And yea, like the other person have said - buy another unit, carefully unpackage it, put it in a place of your old unit, then pack the old unit using the box from new unit and return it back to the store. Not immediately - wait at least a couple of weeks or so.
What do you think is the reason for mold? No sunlight where it's mou Ted? No routine water removal via that blue plug?
I have a question totally unrelated to the energy consumption issue and am curious about. I noticed you have the unit installed in one side of a double window. how did you attach the left bracket arm when there is no window frame there to screw it into?
I think these are a very wise option for a lot of us, I love old air conditioners myself I'm talking 40 years old 50 years old plus with real compressors and real components, however to have inverter technology in such a small package these things will probably burn half as much if not less then half as much as a conventional on off air conditioner of the modern-day, as far as inverter Central units probably will use more power than just using these it's even more efficient than a ductless mini-split in my opinion I don't know what the longevity of these are but I recommend plugging them into a single outlet surge protector say about 1800 w 1500 w capacity protector. They say they only last 8 years but I'm sure they'll last longer even if the software for your Wi-Fi stuff is outdated. I think for the price they're very affordable and we should snap them up while they're cheap before people realize that they are gold in a box.
Also that 500 w you're reading is only on startup when everything ramps up once it starts to dial back the wattage will drop off
"Auto" mode is the most efficient on Midea U-Shaped. It will cycle the compressor as needed. But yes, it's based on indoor room temp and outside room temp and what you have to temp dialed on the unit. IE... outside temp: 87 degrees, indoor actual temp 79 degrees and you have the a/c set to 74... it will go full tilt until the compressor and condenser are fully cool and functional.. then it will cycle down (use less power) to maintain an outlet temp to cool the room to 74.
Thank You for doing this! Hurricane season in Houston got me scrambling for solutions and this info is great! Do you recall what the outside temperature was when you conducted this test?
i have the 8k and the 12k. you have to keep in mind that the watts does not stay constant but fluctuates. and so if you watch it for a long enough period the 8k unit will do 200-500. it also depends on the mode.. low, med, high. on low setting you can, on average, expect it to be in the 300-400 range.
Test it where it gets to room temperature, and leave it at like a normal 75 degrees, on medium fan. What are the Watts then?
How long it last
Hi,
Very grateful for you. Do you know if I can use this with a horizontal sliding windows?
Someone e on youtube did a video on that. They made a big rectangle out of wood and mounted it above the A/C between the open window sash and frame. The project just requires some work
My Frigidaire uses 400w max, 50w on fan and has soft start that slowly ramps up, is much much cheaper, so unless this actually uses less power and has a working thermostat it could be a very expensive mistake. So the fan itself uses how much and how does the thermostat work? Not sure if this can fit in my windows either.
Which Fridgidaire model? I just ordered the "Frigidaire Gallery 8,000 BTU U-Shape Window Room Air Conditioner with Inverter and WIFI" and it looks to be basically a clone of the Midea. The buttons are slightly different but do the same things. The rest of the unit appears identical.
@@nikolaim5 I have the old cheap manual control 5000 BTU Fridgidaire with soft start. It used to be 99 bucks but it has gone up. The one you have should use much less energy. The tiny Fridgidaire is about the only window unit that I know for sure fits in my tiny camper window.
You should make a note your Jackery is set at 110 volts. At the typical 120 volts you should see different power numbers & improved peak cooling performance. Also, this unit is rated at 710 watts. If you are running it on a 110 degree day for hours, the power consumption goes up considerably. This is true for all air conditioners.
how long will the ac unit operate on that battery?
What size is the Jackery?
Do you have a video where you are running your fridge on battery power???
Recently I had to run my daughters fridge on the Jackery 1000 plus. It was supposed to make it 8 1/2 hours but actually lasted 12 hours with 20% power left in its bank. She has a large fridge. We had to take the Jackery to charge at the local library every morning and night as there was not enough sun to charge via panels. Houston lost power for 4 days. It was a real saver.
I think the eco mode works when the AC reaches the desired indoor temperature. If it does, the compressor would work less to preserve power. That's how I understood it from another video. So, if this is true, then when you just turned on the AC, eco mode and normal mode wouldn't have much difference in the power draw. Only when the inside required temp is reached, then eco mode kicks in to conserve power.
Most eco modes on window ac units will turn off the fan when the compressor is not running IE when indoor set temperature is reached. With eco mode off the fan runs continuously whether the compressor is running or not.
I have it setup with midea 8000 unit and solar panels and 2 100ah battery. I can run it forever day and night
how powerful of an inverter?
@@roachwerks3043 victron 800w
I think you should do a second test, one where the air conditioner is simply maintaining the room temperature, in this test the Midea has to cool to room first before you get the benefits of the inverter and efficiency
Wow, what an exciting thought. I have 400 watts of solar and 300AH lithium batteries. It would be so cool to be able to use that rather than my generator.
@@milkmanfitness this is new york state btw. nonstop baby
Cool and useful. What model is the AC unit?
Just Google midea u shaped 8000 ac. It'll pop up. There's one 8000,10000,12,000.
6000 doesnt have an inverter
For how long
Interesting. The spec sheet doesn't show usage for this unit, but the 12000BTU unit claims 1140 watts. I'm sure that's only when on the highest settings possible though.
In Puerto Rico at my house in my bedroom I had a TGM 12,000 BTU split-unit inverter air conditioner that on high with the compressor running drew a miserly 780W!
on eco ac shut off once desired temp is reached.
why did you quit your channel? Looks like you have a lot of solid content.
Read your manual and you'll see the eco mode shut the fan down with the compressor to save power ...
So compresor runs all the time vis a vis consumption is comstant ?
Traditional ones will cut thebcompressor therefore only drawing 50watts !
Just performed a test...
Compressor will gradually adjust and lower comsuption. (Depending on the room size vis a vis BTUs). In a campervan, with a 10k BTU .. during the night, consuption lowered to 350watts to zero all night. Better than a traditional 5k btu which consumes 500watts. Hope this helps
You’re incorrect. A “traditional” 8k btu Ac as you call it, wild surge to around 1,200-1,500 watts when the compressor kicks in
Then it would drop to about 6-700 watts idle watts. NO WINDOW AC NOT EVEN THE LOWLY 5k but will run at 50 watts. That will only happen when the room temperature has been achieved and the ac shuts the compressor off and only runs the fan. But then again, that’s not the point of a window ac unit. If you want it cooling, it will never be at 50watts
For an 8k btu, this window ac runs super low around 360-480 watts
That’s super conservative
I have one and the compressor ramps up or down depending on the cooling power it needs to provide. Some central A/Cs with variable speed compressors are similar but not as efficient as this. I have a 12,000 BTU Midea U shape unit and the difference between my previous 10K unit and this one on my electric bill is quite noticeable. More cooling, significantly quieter and saving around 60 to 75 bucks monthly. Win win.
@@suppaman12And just what I need!
do these models have mold issues. thats what concerns me thanks
i heard it's a possibility if its not installed correctly. the rear should be slightly tilted down in order for any condensation to run out and away.
Every single a/c no matter the type can and probably will get mold.
@amg5619 yep I inspected my girlfriends 3yr old a/c. Lots of mold. Replaced it with this. Midea has a plug for releasing water when Needed.
what size is the jackery
1500w
I chuckled
Wow this midea is efficient. I initially thought and its all over google rule of thumb if its 8000 btu it runs at 800 watts. I mean my portable LG is 12000 btu and it does run about 1200 watts. This window Midea ACs are fairly cheap. Might pick up a 5000 BTU for camping lol
I have an LG 8000 btu window a/c and it runs arond 650-700 watts, drains my ecoflow in about 2 1/2 hrs, think i'll buy this medina unit....much more efficient
@jmackd1 yeah I didn't know midea makes them with certain models with a smart inverter (AC to DC converter) . That's pretty damn awesome.
Below 8,000 and u won't find inverter
@@lionintu 8000 BTUs it is!
@@lionintuI found an LG Dual Inverter air conditioner in the 6,000 BTU capacity but it is available only to special order and the only size I found at The Home Depot was 10,000 BTU. So this Midea is one of the candidates for my bedroom in Port Saint Lucie, FL
power usage on low is very impressive!
That is boosting my confidence in buying the size of BTU for the air conditioner I need and not worry about power consumption. Remember that the wattage listed at websites including Amazon are based on the power draw in traditional air conditioners. The inverter system lowers the power consumption of an otherwise traditional air conditioner by at least one third.
We're talking about reducing the power consumption of an otherwise traditional air conditioner by no less than a third!
@@angelperez7891you can find wattage ratings that are specific to this and other ac’s. This unit has a 710 watt rating. You will only see that type of peak # after extended use in a hot, humid environment.
Nice. thank you.. but we need a real world 8x8 shack in the Florida summer woods. I wonder how would perform in a 100sqf van
I hate that midea does not sell those everywhere in the world. we dont get them here in mexico :/, i bet they would help a lot of low income people on hot climates. we have an average 35c+ all over the country in summer days. i hate this planet.
See if you can get a "Frigidaire Gallery 8,000 BTU U-Shape Window Room Air Conditioner with Inverter and WIFI". It's the exact same unit.
Well in Mexico you’re on the equator, go to Canada where it’s -40.
Echo mode automatically adjusts the speed of the fan and compressor you have to give it time for it to calibrate every time you change something it starts the process all over again. Setting ot at 60 you will not get any benefit from echo. I have a 12000 btu it replaced a 6000 btu unit and uses about half the electricity the old did.
Eco mode: Fan turns off when temp is reached. Eco mode off: fan stays on until you manually turn it off.
You're tripping if you think you can run a TV, lights, fridge, and AC on that little power bank. lol
The only thing ECO mode does is run the fan after the compressor shuts off.
Shutting the fan too
@@AMDRADEONRUBY yes the outside fan
Eco mode completely turns off the compressor and the blowing fan once the set temperature has been reached. During regular cool mode only the compressor turns off and the fan remains on.
My toshiba 8000 btu pulls about 750 watts full throttle
I just traded in a portable unit for this one. One ac in my Florida house can't keep up
I have a GE 5,000 BTU air conditioner that even with a 4-foot greater length in one dimension beyond a 12' × 12' space it is already biting more than it can chew in this summer heat in the daytime and it isn't cooling my bedroom all that much better at night! So I am picking out a new A/C, an inverter model, between 6,000 and 8,000 BTU and this Midea is a perfect example.
Wow 275 watts is super low.
Patron tequila on the table??
400 watts... rediculous. I have a regular 12000 unit and it consumes 1400 to 1800 watts when co.pressor is running. I bought one of these for my kids room and it runs all the time my electric bill jumped very little. Impressive.
With that amazing level of economy I am stung to jump on the inverter A/C bandwagon!
Midea customer service is the worst. After a month of haggling, they denied warranty reimbursement on a new unit with 8 hours on it.
In 9 min. the power dropped down "98%". That's including the time it was off. I don't believe this unit will do the job.
Why would you want to use this for camping? You can't cool the tent all day and night. You would need two units. One on recharge from your generator and one running the AC. Running a generator (constantly) would save you more money than using these power packs.
And if you decided to use this unit for your bedroom (in power outages), Wouldn't you need two for your refrigerator, or more?
Can I sell you the Brooklyn Bridge? 40% off if you buy in the next 2,000 years.
70 would be ok.
These people sell these battery pack power boxes think we’re a bunch of fools It ain’t gonna run no house 8000 BTU air conditioners no way.😊 only run 11 minutes