The Aussies have constantly proven to be a remarkably strong-willed people. As an American I find it unfortunate how often they're overlooked, such as their incredible performance at Kapyong in the Korean War (together with the Canadians and New Zealander artillery force). Good to see Dr. Felton and others sharing these stories.
They used to be. Now they gave up their guns and their Chinese controlled puppet leaders are putting them all in camps because maybe they have the flu, and the Australians are quietly allowing it. Has beens.
It was a lot rougher in the CBO and the Pacific than many people realize and where some of my relatives fought in it in the US Army and US Navy. The stories they told me were bone chilling of what all allied men faced. We should always honor them for their valor and sacrifice.
John Saia - not only allied men. Australian and Dutch nurses were bayoneted and shot just like their male colleagues - not to mention the horrors committed upon the civilian populations.
Had the infinite pleasure of knowing one of the survivors of the Japanese detailed in this video. His name was Harold Martin, and after capture, was imprisoned in Changi, then survived 2 years on the Burma railway, then 4 days adrift after their prison ship was torpedoed by a US submarine as mentioned also. Harold was a quiet, kind and gentle man, and died last year at 103 years of age.
My great Uncle was a prisoner of the Japanese during WW2. And he wouldn't have anything to do with them. If you went to pick him up for a doctors visit, etc and you turned up in a toyota he wouldn't get int the car. The worse part is you would have woke idiots telling him he should get over it. Why should he? Why should he not hate a race and culture that tortured, starved and almost worked him to death him for 3 yrs or how he watched them beat starve and take great pleasure in murdering his friends? The poor old bugger still had a massive great scar on his back from when they beat him with a shovel.
My father was part of gull force as capt. He escaped with 17 others and island hopped to Thursday island using only a compass and world atlas. It took Three months and dad arrived back in Australia weighing 5stone and covered in tropical ulcers. He relived this three months in his dream every year until his death in 2007. I attended the 70th anniversary dawn service and walked through the war cemetery
My late father, his 2 brothers fought in the 2nd AIF against the Japanese from 1942 in New Guinea after being called back from the Middle East. His eldest brother was in Darwin & was bombed numerous times! Dad told me some horrific stories which you’ve now highlighted Mark! Dad passed away in 2010 & still had nightmares up until his passing aged 86. Although dad moved on with his life, he could NEVER forgive the Japanese for the atrocities committed against his countrymen & allies. Lest We Forget…
Utterly terrorizing, I still can't believe that one Australian survived being bayonetted over 6 times even one to the face. I still can't believe they were sent to fight being woefully outnumbered and out gunned. Happy to see they are not forgotten. As a US Marine listening about the horrors of war, this is at the top.
Only 6 times? In occupied countries they rounded up civilians including children for bayonet practice. Each target would be bayonetted in turn by an entire platoon or company.
A lot of the 2/22nd Battalion were recruited from the Western district of Victoria. My small hometown lost 4 men on Rabual. One escape back to Australia only to be KIA in Wau in 1945. Another ended up as a POW only to be torpedoed and plucked out of the water by a USN submarine. My grandmother lost her boyfriend and 2 school friends. Rabaul had a terrible impact on our area.
When I was 6-9 rs old I lived at RAF Changi in Singapore. My dad flew Argosy type aircraft at the time. From our back garden we could see the notorious Changi prison. I learned about the atrocities there against Japanese prisoners and the bravery of Australian commandos who would smuggle medical supplies onto the beaches at night. An old woman who sold fruit and hid these supplies and her adventures are worthy of a Dr Felton story. I have made it my mission in life to defend the courage and contribution of the Australian and New Zealand people in all of the wars. Please do not think that the world has forgotten you. Many many Poms still remember your part with respect and gratitude. We will remember them.
@@xiaoka Every government of Japan since it happened. Numerous public figures in media and a troubling % of the population who subscribe to ultra-nationalist politics... to start with.
@@saltmerchant749 When I visited Japan you can see the issue everywhere, they have many WW2 memorial sites but they all have the same issue, they memorialize Japanese losses to Civilians and military but they do memorialize Japanese victims and they do not explain any context to the Japanese losses especially the atomic bombs. So a Japanese person can see the result but does not understand why and that is a big issue to still today in 2021 "save face". As a result, if you dare look up videos of US and Japanese navy exercise today in 2021 here on CZcams and translate the Japanese comments you will see them full of anti American rhetoric, there are some Japanese fighting against them, here and there, but they are usually drowned out.
Merry Christmas ⛄🎄⛄🎄 to all. Aussies have been over looked by most. Excellent determination, and collectively very good fighters. Thank God for the Australian people. 🇨🇦🇦🇺
Informed Americans know how awesome they were to fight alongside big time. They were also issued British beer in many cases so it was good to know them. LOL!
I dont really feel like Australia is over looked, ive always been well informed on Australian events pretty well, maybe its just me but I definitely didn't over look.
Why are the Aussies so overlooked in war histories? What great, brave, hard-fighting soldiers they have always been, and their contributions are almost never even mentioned, much less highlighted. Thank you, sir, for putting this video together. I look for history books that are about Australia‘s fighters. They finished WWI. They were a major force in Korea. One unit, left with no help nearby, was so heroic in Vietnam (there is a great movie on those few guys against thousands of Vietcong). Yet they get skipped over by so many books and documentaries. History; you’ve got to really dig to try and make sure get it all or you’ll miss quite a lot. Helmets and hats off to the Aussies from this thankful American. 🇦🇺 🇺🇸 Thank you to your fathers, grandfathers, brothers, uncles, cousins - all. They gave at home, too.
Aussie here - Thanks for covering this topic Mark. You're a legend. These campaigns were huge factors in contributing to Australian national identity and spirit of the Australian Army. It's probably why even though we're an island, we have such a disproportionately large soft spot for the Army.
A workmate's father was at 16 the youngest Australian POW held by the Japanese at Changi, working on the rail line. He had the nickname "the pup". He survived the war and went on to be part of the Commonwealth occupational forces in Japan.
As a "Canzak" (a Canadian serving in the NZ Army in the 70's) my most memorable ANZAC day was the dawn service at the Changi War Memeorial in in Singapore. It somehow made the suffering and sacrifice more tangible and real.
@@mathewkelly9968 Sorry, but that's an awful suggestion. You're essentially suggesting that every Japanese soldier was a war criminal and committed war crimes, when there's probably no proof to make such a claim against his old teacher. It's like walking up to a German Veteran and accusing them of being a Nazi, when there were many whom were not - Afrika Korps for example. You really ought to educate yourself before going around and confronting people.
One cannot blame every Indian for Crawnpore nor every American pilot guilty for Dresden, any more than every German for the Einsatzgruppen or every Japanese for Bataan. Every man writes his own plea before God at Judgment. No man bears the blame for his father's sins or his brother's misdeeds.
It’s a huge disgrace that so few japanese war criminals have been brought to trial My grandfather was a corporal in the dutch indies army and captured somewhere around februari 1942 Leaving behind his pregnant wife (carrying my mother) and being send to slave work at the Birma-Siam railway By a miracle he survived this hell on earth after the japanese surrender on the 15th of august 1945, just a few days after the beautiful second atomic bomb on Nagasaki was dropped It was in the weeks following when he saw my mother for the first time, already at the age of almost 3 (oktober 1942) My mother and her little brother had been wandering around all places on java..the so called “buitenkampers”, meaning they were not locked up in a japanese concentration camp because of their mixed origin, my grandmother being a native from indie An older (18) half brother went searching for them along with some english military he had succesfully pleaded to come and help searching Grandmother just left the children behind on their own and left.. My mother bears a scar on her knee…scrapnel from an exploding granate.l, together witje a burned foot and an everlasting war trauma They returned to the netherlands by ship, only to return a few years later because of the so called politionele acties ( colonial indepence war) and somewhat later to finally return to the netherlands A huge disgrace from the dutch government was the refusal to pay the salary my grandfather owned, for the years he had been slave working for the japanes at the Birma-Siam railway, saying he was not serving…….it’s mind boggling After the war the people returning from the dutch indies fellt nobody cared about what they had gone threw…nobody was interested…they thought that only they themselves had sufferd from the germans in the netherlands ..and those from the dutch indies..what did they know/have been gone threw Only for the last few years now there is some media and governmental attention to those who suffered severly from the saddistic japanese occupation
*"It’s a huge disgrace that so few Japanese war criminals have been brought to trial"* This phenomenon can be attributed to the USA never being bothered to dispose of the royal family but instead keep him to use him to pacify the country. They also never did a huge military war trial for the Japanese as they did for the Germans, or try to re-educate them that empires are bad, like they did to the Germans. Which is why the idea of a recreation of the Japanese empire is still well and alive to this day. One reason was because many of the war crimes were committed by the members of the royal family and since the US wanted to keep them, then they could not be prosecuted. The second reason was because they wanted to know some information about their human experimentation of chemical and biological weapons to use against the communists later on (such as their use in the Korean and Vietnamese war), which is similar to operation paperclip when they brought some Nazis and actual war criminals to the US, to live a life of American luxury, just so they could get information from them. And a final reason was because the Soviets were not there to pressure the US to have a war tribunal to sentence war criminals, even though they were a contributing factor in the Japanese surrender and actually captured more prisoners in the final months of ww2 than the US did in the whole 4 years of the war.
My wife come s from a provincial capital in far east.my father in law told me that in late 70s they had a top Japanese baseball team touring the country they were to arrive in the city..and the mayor put out lots of flags and bunting around the town and the team was to march down the main street and to the top hotel so they all lined the streets and the music played and the Japanese marched down the main street waving...and then they got pelted with stones.
@cas curse my great grandfather died early on in tassie. We never learnt about great grandmother. On the other side, I think opa's (dutch for grandad I think) farther was a Dutch solider. Opa died when I was 3 so I never learnt what happened to his parents but they did survive the war. My grandmother did say that her brother had his leg below the knee cut off by a katana for stealing bread while in a Japanese labour camp.
My grandad and his brother fought here as past of the New Guinea volunteer rifles. His brother was was captured and went down on the Montevideo Maru. The crap thing was the Australian government didn't recognize their servive until after their death. RIP Norm & Garth.
Not about WW2 but Vietnam: My dad was a liaison officer who worked directly with and alongside some Australian soldiers in Vietnam, according to dad, those Aussies where real badass's and more so than our own American soldiers, I wasn't there, and can only go on the stories dad told us, but the respect and love for the Aussies he had was astonishing
I reckon that for Westerners the Germans made more of an impression as those countries experienced German 'hospitality' directly. Whereas with the Japanese it was only Western soldiers and civilians in Asia who got to experience it. Plus I wouldn't be surprised that with decolonization a lot of people came to look down on those who worked and/or fought for colonial administrations. So for some of them it even became kinda a just punishment for people who served as part of colonialism. And for others a book of history they now preferred closed. Of course for the people of Asia it was never forgotten. I hear the South Koreans are more weary of Japan then North Korea, the Philippines haven't forgotten it either and the Chinese loath Japan. If the PRC wants to divert attention away from its own failures all they have to do is beat the Japan drum.
Hmmmm, 3.5 Million total Japanese deaths including military personnel as compared to at least 20 million murdered Chinese. Add another 3 to 6 million murdered Phillipino and Southeast Asian civilians and and Allied POW's. Japan came out of the war in far better condition than any of those people who she conquered and occupied.
The Allies originally intended to prosecute Japanese war criminals to a degree similar to that of German and other Axis figures in post-war Europe. MacArthur and Truman eventually canceled these plans out of a perceived need to use Japan as a political and economic bulwark against the Soviet Union. There was an active communist/socialist movement in Japan at the time, and American authorities were afraid of Japan turning "red" if they prosecuted too many of Japan's wartime political and economic leaders who, while not the nicest people, were definitely no friends of communism. As it turned out, Japan's postwar recovery was essentially led by a clique of unrepentant Class A war criminals given a pass by the Allied leaders. One postwar prime minister alone, Nobusuke Kishi, was a sadistic rpist and slve driver directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of workers and civilians in Manchukuo, Japan's puppet state and colony in Manchuria, in his former role as an industrialist and political operator there.
I'm a young Australian and it never ceases to amaze me how my fellow young and old Australians alike, forget how barbaric the Japenese were and how close we were to being conquered. The Japanese got away with their atrocities and yet many Japanese and people like to make out that the Japanese were victims because of the two Atomic bombings. The bombings were awful but if you understand the history prior and what the Japenese did to Asia, you can not help but have very little pitty for them, a cruel symptom of a cruel war. I , like many, love the modern day Japanese now ofcourse, but it still doesn't sit right with me. Atleast now we are strong allies against the new tyranny that is hanging over Asia, Communist China. It is sad to see that the coming conflict with China will likely follow a similar path as the Imperial Japanese conquest did and that it's likely, once again, our little continent shall again be plunged into a desperate war of defence. Love from Australia to all Mark felton viewers and ofcourse to Dr Felton himself. Merry Christmas and holiday.
Exactly all historians seem to do is concentrate on the Nazi war crimes which are nothing compared to what the Japanese forces did. At least the Germans fed and gave their POWs well the British, Australians at least food, water and basic shelter. My grandad was a POW in WW2 taken prisoner by the Germans for two years. Although upon being rescued he was underweight and suffering, malnutrition he at least was given some food and shelter, even struck up distant relationships with their German captures. He said had he’d been taken prisoner by the Japanese he was certain he most likely not have survived…
I understand where you are coming from, but history shows that all rising great powers during early in their rise were often prone to brutal atrocities. One example of such these atrocities of a rising great power is America. In 1880-90s Philippine-American war it was not uncommon for American officers to order the deaths of every male in "liberated" villages from the ages of 10 and upwards. Yes American officers were ordering the deaths of 10 years old children in that conflict. I could sift through England's, Russia's, France's, Germany's and others rise to great power status and find atrocity after atrocity also but you get my point.
I think it was the fact that if they won and become victors and a great power status. They thought they could re-write history whitewash or cover up any atrocities and crimes it would be decades before people actually learnt the truth by then it would be too late for justice against the people ordering the atrocities often dead and buried as heroes or holding supreme power of the state they control, thus immunity. Couple that with the fact over time people have got comfortable with the new status quo and see the rising or new great power as legitimate.
We actually had no trained, experienced troops in Australia to oppose these invasions. Similarly for the Air Force. All our best divisions were either in North Africa or already captured in Singapore. It took until September 1942 for some to return, to be committed in Papua. Even then, Churchill had tried to keep them in Ceylon for the defence of India.
The military involved in the events in this clip were mostly AIF, as were most of the divisions overseas. But, in addition to that, there were seven militia divisions in Australia - 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 infantry divisions, I and 2 armoured cavalry divisions, and the AIF 1st armoured division, (plus garrison troops, troops guarding POW camps etc.). Initially under-equipped, by just after the Battle of Coral Sea (May 42), they were formidable enough a force to complicate if not deter any Japanese invasion of Australia itself, and were fully equipped by the end of that year. Their armoured units were typically equipped with Grant and Stuart tanks. Some units were later disbanded as the threat waned, as the Australian workforce was very short of labour for war production due to the large numbers that had joined the army. I'm not saying any of this just to be contrary, and they were certainly not suitable for operations such as described in this clip at the time. It's just that very few of these units feature much at all in Australian military history (except 39 Battalion of course), which focus very much on the AIF; so few Australians have ever heard about them. 3rd and 5th Divisions in particular did a lot of effective work in New Guinea and New Britain, but rarely rate much of a mention. In contrast, US National Guard divisions (such as 32 Div - in New Guinea and beyond) get quite good coverage in equivalent US histories. My personal connection was that my father was a company commander with 30 Battalion, 8 Brigade; a militia unit whose activities included defence of Northern Sydney beaches, defence of WA around Geraldton, operations towards Saidor in New Guinea and the capture of Madang. They killed about 700 Japanese on operations plus found about as many bodies of others again (due disease and malnutrition), with very few combat losses to themselves, (though heaps from malaria and other jungle diseases).
@Billy Bones Australian territory was invaded, but the mainland received only air and naval attack, and one ground reconnaissance. Japanese aims are clear in retrospect, but not to those there and then. Hence the barbed wire on beaches, new strategic roads, hundreds of airfield constructed, the Brisbane Line, etc. WA was considered a prime target, with its small and isolated population facilitating any easy to maintain lodgement, hence the concentration of militia and armour there in 42. From a historical aspect it’s a shame that General Sturdee destroyed his records. He accurately predicted the events of 41/42, was chief military advisor to Curtin, worked with Marshall in the USA and returned later to command 1st Aust army. No doubt could have provided some interesting insights. It’s not very different from the speculation about whether Germany had the capability to invade Britain, but it was certainly feared so at the time.
Great work as always Mark. As an Australian I found this an excellent account. The history of the Australian army in WW2 is quite unusual. These events certainly doesn't get much coverage here. Naturally the performance of the Australian divisions in the 8th army in North Africa or the militiamen in New Guinea much preferred as topics to talk about. The terrible negligence of the Australian govt and high command in all of this is another reason it gets little attention. Then of course there is the scandal of the use of the Australian army in 1944 mopping up Japanese forces left starving after the American advance across the pacific had cut them off. Rather than leave them to wither the Australian army thought it a good idea to waste lives reducing these pockets. The futility of it all was obvious to the troops who in some cases mutinied for being sent out to die for absolutely no reason. So unlike the Navy or Airforce the history of the Australian army in ww2 is quite chequered.
Japan got off very light for its war crimes. They managed to weasel themselves out of making reparations, unlike Germany and to this officially there has never been an official apology. Maybe too late, because of course the sins of the father should not befall the son, and current generations should not be made to pay or apologize for the crimes of their forefathers.
Japanese leaders have made numerous apologies to Korea, and Japan has paid Korea millions in reparations since the 1960s, both to the Korean government and to private citizens (and the Koreans, predictably, continue to demand more, to the point of recently rioting in the streets). The Japanese government has been less charitable toward China, correctly perceiving Chinese demands to be purely political attacks. A government that drives over dissidents with tanks and runs a police state cannot legitimately make moral demands of anyone.
@@hyokkorichin That's the thing though, they always made personal apologies, never on behalf of the Japanese nation. Never an admission of national guilt. And Japan paid Western POW's and civilians that had to enjoy the hospitality of the Emperor squat. And yes, China is no position to make any moral demands itself. And again, I hold the current Japanese generations not responsible.
I disagree that Japan got off lightly. The US used its superior technology to extract a terrible vengence on the Japanese people culminating with the atomic attacks. That vengence was so horrifying that it sort of put an instant stop to the violence and left every one feeling a bit disgusted.
My Father, Jack Barnes, QX53779, fought in Papua, New Guinea, Morotai and New Britain. His war ended in 1947 when he came home after servong with the Commonwealth Occupation Forces. Thank you Mark for telling this story. Lest we forget.
As an Australian, I'd like to thank you for taking the time in putting this documentary together. Happy new year to all, and Long Live Western Culture.
‘The Knights of Bushido: A Short History of Japanese War Crimes During World War II’ by Lord Russell of Liverpool A good read. Rather difficult, but for the WWII reader it’s a necessity - and a start.
Thank you Mark Felton for your, matter of fact, reporting of these events. Two uncles were PoW , held by the Japanese during WW2. One was executed at Sandakan, too unwell to commence a march. The other survived forced labour on Blakan Mati but was traumatised by his experiences and even in old age, the scars of his beatings from the Japanese were clear to be seen. The facts of those times need to be preserved to aid remembrance and hopefully, in some way, prevent re-occurrence
I hope Mr Felton will do a short episode about the rape and massacre of Australian nurses at Bangka Island. I have the impression that these events have been ignored in the Australian school system, which annoyed many Australian veterans of WW2.
I'm not sure what benefit would be delivered to our children by traumatising them. I'd like to think we could teach them some context and resilience first. More important too to teach them some critical thinking to help them identify where the real threats are in the contemporary world. Not that any of these Japanese atrocities should be forgotten.
Thanks Dr Mark Felton as an Australian I never knew this story my grandfather was involved in Tobruk Crete and Papua NG … he told me the Nazis were brutal but the Japanese far worse so thank you for everything you are doing God Bless 🙏❤️
My late father was in Lark Force. They were told” Every man for themselves” on the fall. He escaped as written up in historical records. The sinking of the Montevideo such a tragedy & the loss of many of his friends & companions. His life, never the same after the war and a long recuperation nor ever the same for my family. Still he lived a long life & was a good & honourable man who never spoke or revealed much of war on many fronts. Lark Force history needs to be remembered on many fronts. So thank you. I still remember contacting the 2/22 Association to advise of his death. Such emotion on the line - as said” not many of us left now- hope we can be remembered” . Well, yes always remembered by me & many. Vale. 😢
My grandfather fought with the 🇦🇺 army during WW11. I'd like 👍 to see 👀 more about Australian troops during WW11, as I'm a proud Australian. I think there's a little too much about the German's during WW11. I love ❤ your channel, Mark
I spent a month in Rabaul earlier this year for work. Being an avid WWII history buff, it was overwhelming to be surrounded by so many reminders of that conflict. Talking to older locals who were handed down stories of the war by family members was a very sobering experience when it comes to the scale of the destruction to Rabaul and the brutality of the Japanese. Standing on a high ridge overlooking Simpson Harbor and imagining B-25s swooping in to strafe dozens of ships with flak exploding everywhere was a sight to behold.
You’re the absolute best historical channel out there. They need too give you your own series and big budget. I thought I knew a lot about world war 2 but you never cease too surprise me with new and interesting things.
Very good series that you plan to cover. So much of the battle in the Pacific remains almost unspoken about. We mainly here tales of large battles like Iwo Jima, Okinawa, or the Philippines. There is so much history to be learned about the battles and even the suffering of soldiers in the Southern Pacific, especially early in the war. Looking forward to more in this series. Thank you Dr. Felton for your always interesting and informative content.
The two six inch guns in Rabaul were re-located there from Fort Wallace in Newcastle when it was re-armed with 9.2 inch guns. The range finder cams on them are labelled "Fort Stockton" which was Wallace's name before being re-named Fort Wallace.
Watching Mark Felton's youtube channels is better than anything the History Channel puts out. He has researched diligently to find these small stories to bring to us that a multi million dollar TV channel won't spend the time to research as hard to find. All the History Channel can cover is the big events of wars over and over. Mr. Mark Felton is a treasure to the curious interested in the history of wars.
My great uncle Ray Lees was a private in the 1st independent company as part of Lark force. He came from Warrigal in Gippsland Victoria. 1Ind Comp was assigned to defend the airfield at Rabaul where he was wounded and captured by the Japanese. He ended up as one of the POWs onboard the Montevideo Maru and went down with the ship when the USS Sturgeon torpedoed it. RIP Ray.
I can't get enough of your videos. Your truly the best history based person on CZcams. I was actually looking to get one of your books. Any recommendations on what to read first?
My grandfather reckons it was borin..signed up at Newtown in Sydney ..sent off...airforce .mechanic cook builder concrete..said every day they blow up the runway..then I go concrete it again...the bastardssss..mom's dad joined up in Qld did a year..then threw him out..cancer or sum shit..same place he was sent..similiar..ya get it
It is hard to fathom the brutality of Japanese troops. One of my father's friends, a Singaporean Chinese, witnessed his parents being beheaded by the Japanese who brutalised the Chinese population of occupied Singapore. He never forgave them and refused to do business with the Japanese after the war until the day he died.
Hello Dr. Felton. Always totally absorbed watching your excellent presentations. My uncle was Captain Ben Hooper Medical. Two times in New Guinea on the front line. Twice returned to recover from malaria. Late 1944 he joined Z Special Force. Unfortunately he drowned on manoeuvres off Perth 9th March 1945. Just asking if you do a story on Z Special Force. Many thanks for what you do. Andy from Rockhampton Queensland Australia. Ta mate.
The old guy who lived next door when i was a kid drove landing craft in the pacific. Super nice guy, he didn't hate anything except the Japanese. Even at the end of his life 60 years later. I don't even know if he saw it first hand, but just knowing what they did to others like him stuck with him the rest of his life.
They were brutal even before the war began. They just carried on, and against non combatants too. They didn’t care. Their mindset was Hitler-esque: they thought they were the superior world race. That’s what they taught, and that’s the reason that they had so much hatred.
So little is acknowledged about this period of Australian history. The pathetic government attempts at defence and the Japanese cruelty. Thank you for honouring the sacrifice of those brave men given a hopeless job.
Dr Felton as you get closer to Kokoda, I would love for you to do something on Brigadier Arnold Potts & perhaps one of the greatest fighting withdrawals of any Australian body of troops. Mind you this is 2 years old ,shame I hadn't seen this sooner. Thankyou.
my grandfather was on the last plane out of Ambon and to his dying day he was 'exceptionally crooked' on the organisation that was non existent at Ambon and other 'defensive positions'. One story is that some prisoners were put into bamboo cages bayoneted and then thrown into the sea at Ambon to be eaten alive by sharks. I don't doubt the truth of this particular story. You should do a story on Vivian Bullwinkle sole survivor of 20 odd shipwreck survivors who where machine gunned in the ocean on I believe Banka Island
Lord Russell included her and tens of thousands of others (non combatants) in his book, ‘The Knights of Bushido.’ It’s difficult to read, but that and other books on the Japanese atrocities need to be read. Horrific. Past horrific.
Thank you for researching this and posting Dr Felton. I visited the former POW camp in Sandakan in Borneo about 10 years ago. It would great if you would be able to cover that story and the sad fate of the Australian 8th Division soldiers who ended up there after the fall of Singapore.
Mark, perhaps do a video on an extremely saddening event with Aussie soldiers in WW2. In the Australian War Memorial, there is a room devoted entirely to the Borneo Sandakan Death March, where all Aussie/Brit POWs died during march, except for six Aussies who escaped into the jungle, and were able to tell the story. Approx 1,787 Australians and 641 British soldiers died between January and August 1945. A rescue plan was activated but appears not to have been followed through.
It would be really hard to show an enemy,in this case the Japanese,any sort of mercy or any "leniency" when they turned it around and it was the Japanese in captivity,I imagine plenty of the allied troops would have been happy to put a bullet between their eyes, but as we know it didn't go down like that
It most definitely did “go down like that” on several occasions. You can read first hand accounts from US Marines talking about how they often took no prisoners, especially after some japanese soldiers would fake surrender only to pull a grenade at the last second. Obviously nothing close to the sheer scale & brutality of the Japanese, but to think it never happened would be naive
Thank you, Mark, for telling this story. It’s wonderful to see your attention turn toward Australian military history, however grim the chapter may be.
Thank you very much, Dr Felton, for this long - awaited episode. It’s of very direct relevance to Tasmanians such as myself. My grandfather was an AIF member of an Anti-Tank regiment that had fought in Greece, Crete, and Syria, prior to redeployment to New Guinea, to replace the very hard-pressed ( and unfairly maligned ) Militia on Kokoda. My great - uncle was a member of the ‘ stay - behind ‘ Commonwealth troops ( mostly Australian and British ) , on what was then Japanese - occupied Portuguese Timor,..conducting guerrilla activities with strong local support. Unfortunately, he ended up as a POW in Changi, not before being forced to watch Japanese ‘ soldiers ‘ enacting brutal acts of horrific violence upon assembled batches of nuns and nurses on the wharves of Singapore.
The Japanese soldiers were taught death before dishonor, that the enemy were not humans and that surrender was not to be accepted. It was the Japanese divine right to conquer the world and anyone in their way was to be removed. Even to this day Japan have not acknowledged some* of the horrible war crimes.
My great uncle is Lieutenant Ron J Green. Gullforce P.O.W. In Ambon. Went out to work with troops every day but didn’t have to because of rank. Lucky to be one of roughly 300 out of 1100 to survive.
My Father was in New Guinea. He probably survived by getting yellow fever. He always complained about military reunions, there was hardly anyone there. My roommate in the hospital getting my full hip replacement, General Rus McGovern told me of McArthur, talking to the general over New Guinea, "Don't come home," meaning win, or die there, McArthur said. It was a group of Australians and American soldiers.
In the early days of WW2, my father was a boot maker, and the Australian army recruitment people came around to the factory in Sydney asking for volunteers to join up. (That was before conscription was made compulsory). As boot making was a protected war industry no one was obliged to join, but many of the younger workers signed up, my mother wouldn't let my dad join as they were just married and had just had a baby (my eldest brother). Many of those that did join up eventually were sent to Singapore and many ended up as slave labourers on the Burma railway. My dad was a little guy, I doubt he would have survived the atrocities of the railway, and if he had gone I wouldn't be here to type this story... One of my father's brothers fought in New Guinea, and was part of a prisoner guard squad that guarded some of the few Japanese soldiers that were captured alive, years later one of the Japanese soldiers contacted my uncle and came to Australia to visit him, they got on well together, not everyone hated the Japanese.
My pop was a z unit comando, and the stories he use to tell us of the Japanese treatment of soldiers were terrible,he had buttons made of cyanide incase of capture
Thank you for this Dr. Felton I have just come across this as my Dads cousin Pte. Eric J, Hansford was at Rabaul and supposedly was on the Montevideo Maru that went down off Luzon and my mums first husband was on Ambon and perished over there.
...& some people question why Australians of the WW2 generations were never able to forgive (&/or forget) the Japanese (& the many atrocities they committed in WW2) in the 'Post WW2' era.
This is my first time listening to this. I thought it was a brilliant presentation and very clear. I'll get right into this Mate. Keep up the good work
Thank you Mark for bringing this history to the forefront. All too often the Australian contribution to the war is left aside. I am always interested in their involvement and their sacrifices.
My great grandfather fought in PNG, then joined the special forces as a human guinea pig for testing of chemical warfare. Typical Aussie: “the fun really started”
G'day Mark, I usually watch all your videos as soon as I can. In the case of these two videos, the other being on another wartime atrocity involving Gull Force, I've avoided watching for over a year. When I took up military history as a serious academic study, I quickly discovered that certain topics were just too disturbing and mentally stressful to study in great detail. My uncle D'arcy, which I've mentioned in other WW2 Pacific Theatre comments, was with the Australian 2nd/40th Battalion who spent most of the war as POWs, my uncle only surviving because they recognised him as an expert axeman; a skill he learned as a Tasmanian farmer from a young age. That was no 'easy ticket' through the routine Japanese atrocities. He was repeatedly, brutally tortured for, apparently no logical reason at all, as were so many of his comrades in arms. Many of them died because of their treatment, while many were simply left to perish because of starvation; being worked to death or because of the near total absence of even the simplest of medicines. Death by dysentery is a shocking and largely treatable, avoidable condition. I remember first reading about Lark and Gull forces. These official histories would have sent my poor uncle D'arcy 'over the top' with outrage. D'arcy was born with a speech defect that was then called 'stuttering' or 'stammering'. When his IJF captors had finished with him and he miraculously made it home, his 'stuttering' was so bad he often could not be understood. The mere sight of a picture of a Japanese person in a newspaper or on the TV could deeply upset D'arcy, physically and mentally. So, when I came to read the official and anecdotal accounts of the countless atrocities committed by the IJF on Australian POWs and countless other prisoners, I found the experience incredibly difficult to endure without thinking that whatever torture my uncle suffered, there were hundreds of other prisoners and Australian troops who had it much worse. I found it almost impossible to maintain my 'academic impartiality' on these subjects and, to tell the truth, I still do to this very day. Strangely, what happened to the Australian soldiers and the way they were treated actually helped me in trying to understand how and why so many ordinary German soldiers and members of the SS, in WW2, were guilty of acts of unspeakable cruelty and murder. I fully recognise that all combatants were, to some degree, responsible for war crimes; however, only Hitler's regime, Stalin's dictatorship and the 'godlike' word of the Japanese emperor saw the 'enshrinement' of torture, murder and genocide into official national policy of those three countries. It's not 'scientific' or even academically acceptable, however, after years of deliberations the best I can come up with is: these nations adopted policies of murder on an almost 'industrial scale' simply because they could. All three nations thought they would get away with these crimes. Historically speaking, only Joseph Stalin did get away with his horrendous war crimes by joining the Allied side during the war. He continued purging and persecuting his citizens, post war, right up to his sudden death in 1953. Far too many Japanese war criminals avoided prosecution and punishment and, as far as I've been able to monitor it; I've yet to hear or read about the Japanese use of their word for 'sorry' uttered by any post-war leader. They prefer to use words like 'unfortunate' and 'regrettable'. Every Japanese leader since WW2 has publicly prayed, each year, at a shrine that is the last resting place of war criminals who were prosecuted and executed and many more that were not even detained for questioning. Australian military tribunals did vigorously prosecute those they could find and prove to be involved. But strangely, they came to a sudden end as so many people and authorities around the world did; they tired of WW2 matters dragging on. Thank you, Mark for making these sad facts known to an international audience. Bill H.
I am always amazed by the toughness of the Australians. This should all be remembered, for a similar fate would await them at the hands of the Chinese.
Hi Dr. Felton. Thanks for covering this bleak episode of Australian history. Typically our (Australian) involvement in WWII and other conflicts isn't widely taught unfortunately.
The Aussies have constantly proven to be a remarkably strong-willed people. As an American I find it unfortunate how often they're overlooked, such as their incredible performance at Kapyong in the Korean War (together with the Canadians and New Zealander artillery force). Good to see Dr. Felton and others sharing these stories.
Another good one to look up is the siege of Tobruk. The Anzac forces deserve a lot of respect
They used to be. Now they gave up their guns and their Chinese controlled puppet leaders are putting them all in camps because maybe they have the flu, and the Australians are quietly allowing it. Has beens.
But theyre kinda annoying
Save Australia!
@@stupidumbasshithead5715 Sometimes that can be a good thing. Keeps everyone on their toes.
As an Australian who currently lives in the UK, I salute Dr Felton for describing this much over - looked tragedy of WW2.
It was a lot rougher in the CBO and the Pacific than many people realize and where some of my relatives fought in it in the US Army and US Navy. The stories they told me were bone chilling of what all allied men faced. We should always honor them for their valor and sacrifice.
John Saia - not only allied men. Australian and Dutch nurses were bayoneted and shot just like their male colleagues - not to mention the horrors committed upon the civilian populations.
Not tragedy but atrocity.
@@adamarmstrong6304 and boy did they commit attrocities. many say the 2 atom bombs were ideal retrobution.
G'day Cobber 😁 👍
Had the infinite pleasure of knowing one of the survivors of the Japanese detailed in this video. His name was Harold Martin, and after capture, was imprisoned in Changi, then survived 2 years on the Burma railway, then 4 days adrift after their prison ship was torpedoed by a US submarine as mentioned also. Harold was a quiet, kind and gentle man, and died last year at 103 years of age.
What a Legend... They don't make them like that anymore...
My great Uncle was a prisoner of the Japanese during WW2. And he wouldn't have anything to do with them. If you went to pick him up for a doctors visit, etc and you turned up in a toyota he wouldn't get int the car. The worse part is you would have woke idiots telling him he should get over it. Why should he? Why should he not hate a race and culture that tortured, starved and almost worked him to death him for 3 yrs or how he watched them beat starve and take great pleasure in murdering his friends? The poor old bugger still had a massive great scar on his back from when they beat him with a shovel.
@@MTG776 actually they do make em like that nowadays
@@Ekstrax Pfffftttt...
You extremely Lucky to have met such a man. RIP Harold Martin.
My father was part of gull force as capt. He escaped with 17 others and island hopped to Thursday island using only a compass and world atlas. It took Three months and dad arrived back in Australia weighing 5stone and covered in tropical ulcers. He relived this three months in his dream every year until his death in 2007. I attended the 70th anniversary dawn service and walked through the war cemetery
Yes. Lest We Forget.
Is there any good biographies of these escapees ?
My late father, his 2 brothers fought in the 2nd AIF against the Japanese from 1942 in New Guinea after being called back from the Middle East. His eldest brother was in Darwin & was bombed numerous times! Dad told me some horrific stories which you’ve now highlighted Mark! Dad passed away in 2010 & still had nightmares up until his passing aged 86. Although dad moved on with his life, he could NEVER forgive the Japanese for the atrocities committed against his countrymen & allies. Lest We Forget…
Never forget, never forgive....
@@rogerkay8603 a very poor motto to live by
Never forgive. Never forget.
Lest We Forget
@@pastorofmuppets8834Until you've been a victim of the barbarity.
Utterly terrorizing, I still can't believe that one Australian survived being bayonetted over 6 times even one to the face. I still can't believe they were sent to fight being woefully outnumbered and out gunned. Happy to see they are not forgotten. As a US Marine listening about the horrors of war, this is at the top.
If I understood correctly, it was a total of 11 wounds for that guy. The Japanese soldiers went out of their way to be as evil as humanly possible.
Why not it was all they had
Look up the interview of Australian soldier shot 9 times at Papua New Guinea on the Kokoda Trail
Only 6 times? In occupied countries they rounded up civilians including children for bayonet practice. Each target would be bayonetted in turn by an entire platoon or company.
@@duffvader6731 Yep
This IS history that should never be forgotten; to my Australian and New Zealand brothers and sisters in-arms, I salute you.
A lot of the 2/22nd Battalion were recruited from the Western district of Victoria. My small hometown lost 4 men on Rabual. One escape back to Australia only to be KIA in Wau in 1945. Another ended up as a POW only to be torpedoed and plucked out of the water by a USN submarine. My grandmother lost her boyfriend and 2 school friends. Rabaul had a terrible impact on our area.
10% of the total population of Australia served in the armed forces during WW2.
What is the name of the town?
@@maddyg3208 Dimboola area I'm guessing. These troops went from the Little Desert area to a jungle. That would have been impossible for them.
Not Forgotten!
My Father was at Rabaul. He survived!
When I was 6-9 rs old I lived at RAF Changi in Singapore. My dad flew Argosy type aircraft at the time. From our back garden we could see the notorious Changi prison. I learned about the atrocities there against Japanese prisoners and the bravery of Australian commandos who would smuggle medical supplies onto the beaches at night.
An old woman who sold fruit and hid these supplies and her adventures are worthy of a Dr Felton story. I have made it my mission in life to defend the courage and contribution of the Australian and New Zealand people in all of the wars. Please do not think that the world has forgotten you. Many many Poms still remember your part with respect and gratitude. We will remember them.
The unconscionability of Japan denying these acts ever took place to this very day is not lost on anyone.
Who is denying it took place? Please be specific.
@@xiaoka Every government of Japan since it happened. Numerous public figures in media and a troubling % of the population who subscribe to ultra-nationalist politics... to start with.
Current generation and polictal leaders only USA did war crimes
@@saltmerchant749 When I visited Japan you can see the issue everywhere, they have many WW2 memorial sites but they all have the same issue, they memorialize Japanese losses to Civilians and military but they do memorialize Japanese victims and they do not explain any context to the Japanese losses especially the atomic bombs. So a Japanese person can see the result but does not understand why and that is a big issue to still today in 2021 "save face". As a result, if you dare look up videos of US and Japanese navy exercise today in 2021 here on CZcams and translate the Japanese comments you will see them full of anti American rhetoric, there are some Japanese fighting against them, here and there, but they are usually drowned out.
I served in the 3rd Marine Division on Okinawa, 85-86. We were there to keep those Tojoists in line!
Merry Christmas ⛄🎄⛄🎄 to all. Aussies have been over looked by most. Excellent determination, and collectively very good fighters. Thank God for the Australian people. 🇨🇦🇦🇺
Informed Americans know how awesome they were to fight alongside big time. They were also issued British beer in many cases so it was good to know them. LOL!
@@johnsaia9739 right on John. Nice to hear.. Be safe.
Merry Christmas too you all as well
I dont really feel like Australia is over looked, ive always been well informed on Australian events pretty well, maybe its just me but I definitely didn't over look.
@@Black-Sun_Kaiser that also good to hear. Cheers to the people of Australia.
Many history professors leave out the Japanese brutality in WW2. They usually focus on Germany and concentration camps.
Why are the Aussies so overlooked in war histories? What great, brave, hard-fighting soldiers they have always been, and their contributions are almost never even mentioned, much less highlighted. Thank you, sir, for putting this video together. I look for history books that are about Australia‘s fighters. They finished WWI. They were a major force in Korea. One unit, left with no help nearby, was so heroic in Vietnam (there is a great movie on those few guys against thousands of Vietcong). Yet they get skipped over by so many books and documentaries. History; you’ve got to really dig to try and make sure get it all or you’ll miss quite a lot. Helmets and hats off to the Aussies from this thankful American. 🇦🇺 🇺🇸 Thank you to your fathers, grandfathers, brothers, uncles, cousins - all. They gave at home, too.
Respect from Downunder to our greatest ally and brother in arms the US 🇦🇺🇺🇸 👍
Please don’t forget the Kiwis .
Always Anzacs Australia New Zealand Army Corps .
Why? Two words: Doug MacArthur.
He assured that no one but he would get any credit for defeating Japan.
@@longtabsigo not just that, Yanks have always thought they are "the best of the best of the best" bullshit. They are far from it.
This is one story I've been waiting to hear. Australia hasn't been heard enough.
Aussie here - Thanks for covering this topic Mark. You're a legend. These campaigns were huge factors in contributing to Australian national identity and spirit of the Australian Army. It's probably why even though we're an island, we have such a disproportionately large soft spot for the Army.
A workmate's father was at 16 the youngest Australian POW held by the Japanese at Changi, working on the rail line. He had the nickname "the pup". He survived the war and went on to be part of the Commonwealth occupational forces in Japan.
As a "Canzak" (a Canadian serving in the NZ Army in the 70's) my most memorable ANZAC day was the dawn service at the Changi War Memeorial in in Singapore. It somehow made the suffering and sacrifice more tangible and real.
I am an Aussie, living in Japan, and I had a martial arts master who fought Aussies in PNG. We had some interesting chats about it.
Did you confront him about his war crimes ? You should have
@@mathewkelly9968 When you grow up, you can come to Japan and do that yourself, kid. But you wont, will you.
@@mathewkelly9968 Sorry, but that's an awful suggestion. You're essentially suggesting that every Japanese soldier was a war criminal and committed war crimes, when there's probably no proof to make such a claim against his old teacher. It's like walking up to a German Veteran and accusing them of being a Nazi, when there were many whom were not - Afrika Korps for example.
You really ought to educate yourself before going around and confronting people.
@@mathewkelly9968 how far up the lunch line does pretending to be tough on the internet get you?
One cannot blame every Indian for Crawnpore nor every American pilot guilty for Dresden, any more than every German for the Einsatzgruppen or every Japanese for Bataan. Every man writes his own plea before God at Judgment. No man bears the blame for his father's sins or his brother's misdeeds.
It’s a huge disgrace that so few japanese war criminals have been brought to trial
My grandfather was a corporal in the dutch indies army and captured somewhere around februari 1942
Leaving behind his pregnant wife (carrying my mother) and being send to slave work at the Birma-Siam railway
By a miracle he survived this hell on earth after the japanese surrender on the 15th of august 1945, just a few days after the beautiful second atomic bomb on Nagasaki was dropped
It was in the weeks following when he saw my mother for the first time, already at the age of almost 3 (oktober 1942)
My mother and her little brother had been wandering around all places on java..the so called “buitenkampers”, meaning they were not locked up in a japanese concentration camp because of their mixed origin, my grandmother being a native from indie
An older (18) half brother went searching for them along with some english military he had succesfully pleaded to come and help searching
Grandmother just left the children behind on their own and left..
My mother bears a scar on her knee…scrapnel from an exploding granate.l, together witje a burned foot and an everlasting war trauma
They returned to the netherlands by ship, only to return a few years later because of the so called politionele acties ( colonial indepence war) and somewhat later to finally return to the netherlands
A huge disgrace from the dutch government was the refusal to pay the salary my grandfather owned, for the years he had been slave working for the japanes at the Birma-Siam railway, saying he was not serving…….it’s mind boggling
After the war the people returning from the dutch indies fellt nobody cared about what they had gone threw…nobody was interested…they thought that only they themselves had sufferd from the germans in the netherlands ..and those from the dutch indies..what did they know/have been gone threw
Only for the last few years now there is some media and governmental attention to those who suffered severly from the saddistic japanese occupation
*"It’s a huge disgrace that so few Japanese war criminals have been brought to trial"*
This phenomenon can be attributed to the USA never being bothered to dispose of the royal family but instead keep him to use him to pacify the country. They also never did a huge military war trial for the Japanese as they did for the Germans, or try to re-educate them that empires are bad, like they did to the Germans. Which is why the idea of a recreation of the Japanese empire is still well and alive to this day.
One reason was because many of the war crimes were committed by the members of the royal family and since the US wanted to keep them, then they could not be prosecuted.
The second reason was because they wanted to know some information about their human experimentation of chemical and biological weapons to use against the communists later on (such as their use in the Korean and Vietnamese war), which is similar to operation paperclip when they brought some Nazis and actual war criminals to the US, to live a life of American luxury, just so they could get information from them. And a final reason was because the Soviets were not there to pressure the US to have a war tribunal to sentence war criminals, even though they were a contributing factor in the Japanese surrender and actually captured more prisoners in the final months of ww2 than the US did in the whole 4 years of the war.
@@vegitoblue5000 As the saying goes, the Nazis lost the war but the fascists won.
Old guy goes back to try and put right a wrong as best he can.. czcams.com/video/ym8GKKpDjGw/video.html
My wife come s from a provincial capital in far east.my father in law told me that in late 70s they had a top Japanese baseball team touring the country they were to arrive in the city..and the mayor put out lots of flags and bunting around the town and the team was to march down the main street and to the top hotel so they all lined the streets and the music played and the Japanese marched down the main street waving...and then they got pelted with stones.
@@WELLBRAN that's stupid
As an Australian, I never knew about this. Thank you for your video Dr Felton and for all your work. Happy holidays.
ME neither, best wishes my friend from Liverpool here and we won't mention the Ashes OK 🎁🥂😀🙏
Merry Christmas
Hope you’re staying safe and out of your concentration camps. #SaveAustralia
@@nameunavailable1330 exactly !!
@cas curse my great grandfather died early on in tassie. We never learnt about great grandmother. On the other side, I think opa's (dutch for grandad I think) farther was a Dutch solider. Opa died when I was 3 so I never learnt what happened to his parents but they did survive the war. My grandmother did say that her brother had his leg below the knee cut off by a katana for stealing bread while in a Japanese labour camp.
My grandad and his brother fought here as past of the New Guinea volunteer rifles. His brother was was captured and went down on the Montevideo Maru. The crap thing was the Australian government didn't recognize their servive until after their death. RIP Norm & Garth.
God bless those brave Australians.
Merry Christmas to everyone, from America. 🎄🇺🇸
Not about WW2 but Vietnam:
My dad was a liaison officer who worked directly with and alongside some Australian soldiers in Vietnam, according to dad, those Aussies where real badass's and more so than our own American soldiers, I wasn't there, and can only go on the stories dad told us, but the respect and love for the Aussies he had was astonishing
Painful to imagine what our Uncle Harold Collins went through. But thanks for re-telling this sad story.
amazing how lightly punished the japanese armed forces where, even their reputation is less known rthan any random nazi or even german soldier
EDWARD Russell, - Knights of Buchido is THE book 📙
Considering their ruthless cruelty, you're correct.
I reckon that for Westerners the Germans made more of an impression as those countries experienced German 'hospitality' directly. Whereas with the Japanese it was only Western soldiers and civilians in Asia who got to experience it. Plus I wouldn't be surprised that with decolonization a lot of people came to look down on those who worked and/or fought for colonial administrations. So for some of them it even became kinda a just punishment for people who served as part of colonialism. And for others a book of history they now preferred closed. Of course for the people of Asia it was never forgotten. I hear the South Koreans are more weary of Japan then North Korea, the Philippines haven't forgotten it either and the Chinese loath Japan. If the PRC wants to divert attention away from its own failures all they have to do is beat the Japan drum.
Hmmmm, 3.5 Million total Japanese deaths including military personnel as compared to at least 20 million murdered Chinese. Add another 3 to 6 million murdered Phillipino and Southeast Asian civilians and and Allied POW's.
Japan came out of the war in far better condition than any of those people who she conquered and occupied.
The Allies originally intended to prosecute Japanese war criminals to a degree similar to that of German and other Axis figures in post-war Europe. MacArthur and Truman eventually canceled these plans out of a perceived need to use Japan as a political and economic bulwark against the Soviet Union. There was an active communist/socialist movement in Japan at the time, and American authorities were afraid of Japan turning "red" if they prosecuted too many of Japan's wartime political and economic leaders who, while not the nicest people, were definitely no friends of communism.
As it turned out, Japan's postwar recovery was essentially led by a clique of unrepentant Class A war criminals given a pass by the Allied leaders. One postwar prime minister alone, Nobusuke Kishi, was a sadistic rpist and slve driver directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of workers and civilians in Manchukuo, Japan's puppet state and colony in Manchuria, in his former role as an industrialist and political operator there.
I'm a young Australian and it never ceases to amaze me how my fellow young and old Australians alike, forget how barbaric the Japenese were and how close we were to being conquered. The Japanese got away with their atrocities and yet many Japanese and people like to make out that the Japanese were victims because of the two Atomic bombings. The bombings were awful but if you understand the history prior and what the Japenese did to Asia, you can not help but have very little pitty for them, a cruel symptom of a cruel war. I , like many, love the modern day Japanese now ofcourse, but it still doesn't sit right with me.
Atleast now we are strong allies against the new tyranny that is hanging over Asia, Communist China. It is sad to see that the coming conflict with China will likely follow a similar path as the Imperial Japanese conquest did and that it's likely, once again, our little continent shall again be plunged into a desperate war of defence.
Love from Australia to all Mark felton viewers and ofcourse to Dr Felton himself. Merry Christmas and holiday.
Exactly all historians seem to do is concentrate on the Nazi war crimes which are nothing compared to what the Japanese forces did. At least the Germans fed and gave their POWs well the British, Australians at least food, water and basic shelter. My grandad was a POW in WW2 taken prisoner by the Germans for two years. Although upon being rescued he was underweight and suffering, malnutrition he at least was given some food and shelter, even struck up distant relationships with their German captures. He said had he’d been taken prisoner by the Japanese he was certain he most likely not have survived…
I understand where you are coming from, but history shows that all rising great powers during early in their rise were often prone to brutal atrocities. One example of such these atrocities of a rising great power is America. In 1880-90s Philippine-American war it was not uncommon for American officers to order the deaths of every male in "liberated" villages from the ages of 10 and upwards. Yes American officers were ordering the deaths of 10 years old children in that conflict.
I could sift through England's, Russia's, France's, Germany's and others rise to great power status and find atrocity after atrocity also but you get my point.
I think it was the fact that if they won and become victors and a great power status. They thought they could re-write history whitewash or cover up any atrocities and crimes it would be decades before people actually learnt the truth by then it would be too late for justice against the people ordering the atrocities often dead and buried as heroes or holding supreme power of the state they control, thus immunity. Couple that with the fact over time people have got comfortable with the new status quo and see the rising or new great power as legitimate.
Dr. Felton has been revealing such vivid illustrations for these chapters of ww2.
Its truly intetested.
Thanks a lot Dr. Felton
My grandfather knew all about how the Japanese treated their POW while somehow surviving 2.5 years on the Burma Railway.
RIP these brave Australians
He survived a hell, an incomparable hell.
Cheers Mark, now the weekend can truly begin. I salute you Sir and the content you provide us with. So cheers, from Speybay Scotland.
This audio is another classic! I never read much about this particular theatre even in the Staff Colleges. Now I'm better informed. Thanks to you Doc.
We actually had no trained, experienced troops in Australia to oppose these invasions. Similarly for the Air Force. All our best divisions were either in North Africa or already captured in Singapore. It took until September 1942 for some to return, to be committed in Papua. Even then, Churchill had tried to keep them in Ceylon for the defence of India.
The military involved in the events in this clip were mostly AIF, as were most of the divisions overseas. But, in addition to that, there were seven militia divisions in Australia - 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 infantry divisions, I and 2 armoured cavalry divisions, and the AIF 1st armoured division, (plus garrison troops, troops guarding POW camps etc.).
Initially under-equipped, by just after the Battle of Coral Sea (May 42), they were formidable enough a force to complicate if not deter any Japanese invasion of Australia itself, and were fully equipped by the end of that year. Their armoured units were typically equipped with Grant and Stuart tanks. Some units were later disbanded as the threat waned, as the Australian workforce was very short of labour for war production due to the large numbers that had joined the army.
I'm not saying any of this just to be contrary, and they were certainly not suitable for operations such as described in this clip at the time. It's just that very few of these units feature much at all in Australian military history (except 39 Battalion of course), which focus very much on the AIF; so few Australians have ever heard about them. 3rd and 5th Divisions in particular did a lot of effective work in New Guinea and New Britain, but rarely rate much of a mention. In contrast, US National Guard divisions (such as 32 Div - in New Guinea and beyond) get quite good coverage in equivalent US histories.
My personal connection was that my father was a company commander with 30 Battalion, 8 Brigade; a militia unit whose activities included defence of Northern Sydney beaches, defence of WA around Geraldton, operations towards Saidor in New Guinea and the capture of Madang. They killed about 700 Japanese on operations plus found about as many bodies of others again (due disease and malnutrition), with very few combat losses to themselves, (though heaps from malaria and other jungle diseases).
@Billy Bones Australian territory was invaded, but the mainland received only air and naval attack, and one ground reconnaissance.
Japanese aims are clear in retrospect, but not to those there and then. Hence the barbed wire on beaches, new strategic roads, hundreds of airfield constructed, the Brisbane Line, etc. WA was considered a prime target, with its small and isolated population facilitating any easy to maintain lodgement, hence the concentration of militia and armour there in 42.
From a historical aspect it’s a shame that General Sturdee destroyed his records. He accurately predicted the events of 41/42, was chief military advisor to Curtin, worked with Marshall in the USA and returned later to command 1st Aust army. No doubt could have provided some interesting insights.
It’s not very different from the speculation about whether Germany had the capability to invade Britain, but it was certainly feared so at the time.
Great work as always Mark. As an Australian I found this an excellent account. The history of the Australian army in WW2 is quite unusual. These events certainly doesn't get much coverage here. Naturally the performance of the Australian divisions in the 8th army in North Africa or the militiamen in New Guinea much preferred as topics to talk about. The terrible negligence of the Australian govt and high command in all of this is another reason it gets little attention. Then of course there is the scandal of the use of the Australian army in 1944 mopping up Japanese forces left starving after the American advance across the pacific had cut them off. Rather than leave them to wither the Australian army thought it a good idea to waste lives reducing these pockets. The futility of it all was obvious to the troops who in some cases mutinied for being sent out to die for absolutely no reason. So unlike the Navy or Airforce the history of the Australian army in ww2 is quite chequered.
Much respect 🙏
From the UK 🇬🇧
Japan got off very light for its war crimes. They managed to weasel themselves out of making reparations, unlike Germany and to this officially there has never been an official apology. Maybe too late, because of course the sins of the father should not befall the son, and current generations should not be made to pay or apologize for the crimes of their forefathers.
They were totally dishonorable.
Japanese leaders have made numerous apologies to Korea, and Japan has paid Korea millions in reparations since the 1960s, both to the Korean government and to private citizens (and the Koreans, predictably, continue to demand more, to the point of recently rioting in the streets). The Japanese government has been less charitable toward China, correctly perceiving Chinese demands to be purely political attacks. A government that drives over dissidents with tanks and runs a police state cannot legitimately make moral demands of anyone.
Tell that to the modern day abolitionists.
@@hyokkorichin That's the thing though, they always made personal apologies, never on behalf of the Japanese nation. Never an admission of national guilt. And Japan paid Western POW's and civilians that had to enjoy the hospitality of the Emperor squat.
And yes, China is no position to make any moral demands itself. And again, I hold the current Japanese generations not responsible.
I disagree that Japan got off lightly. The US used its superior technology to extract a terrible vengence on the Japanese people culminating with the atomic attacks. That vengence was so horrifying that it sort of put an instant stop to the violence and left every one feeling a bit disgusted.
My Father, Jack Barnes, QX53779, fought in Papua, New Guinea, Morotai and New Britain.
His war ended in 1947 when he came home after servong with the Commonwealth Occupation Forces.
Thank you Mark for telling this story.
Lest we forget.
Is there any good biographies of those escapees ?
As an Australian, I'd like to thank you for taking the time in putting this documentary together.
Happy new year to all, and Long Live Western Culture.
‘The Knights of Bushido: A Short History of Japanese War Crimes During World War II’ by Lord Russell of Liverpool
A good read. Rather difficult, but for the WWII reader it’s a necessity - and a start.
Thank you Mark Felton for your, matter of fact, reporting of these events.
Two uncles were PoW , held by the Japanese during WW2. One was executed at Sandakan, too unwell to commence a march. The other survived forced labour on Blakan Mati but was traumatised by his experiences and even in old age, the scars of his beatings from the Japanese were clear to be seen.
The facts of those times need to be preserved to aid remembrance and hopefully, in some way, prevent re-occurrence
Another excellent episode. Thankyou from Australia.
Gee war is hell. When are we ever going to learn.
Only the dead have seen the end of war....PLATO
Wasn't it Rommel who said, "Give me a division of Australians and I'll give you the world"?
I hope Mr Felton will do a short episode about the rape and massacre of Australian nurses at Bangka Island. I have the impression that these events have been ignored in the Australian school system, which annoyed many Australian veterans of WW2.
I'm not sure what benefit would be delivered to our children by traumatising them. I'd like to think we could teach them some context and resilience first. More important too to teach them some critical thinking to help them identify where the real threats are in the contemporary world.
Not that any of these Japanese atrocities should be forgotten.
@@gavanwhatever8196The crazy part is the Aussie government covered it up? Like WHY?
Yes that story needs to be told 100%. Never forget
Thanks Dr Mark Felton as an Australian I never knew this story my grandfather was involved in Tobruk Crete and Papua NG … he told me the Nazis were brutal but the Japanese far worse so thank you for everything you are doing God Bless 🙏❤️
Mark. Thanks for providing my Saturday Night Entertainment!
My late father was in Lark Force. They were told” Every man for themselves” on the fall. He escaped as written up in historical records. The sinking of the Montevideo such a tragedy & the loss of many of his friends & companions. His life, never the same after the war and a long recuperation nor ever the same for my family. Still he lived a long life & was a good & honourable man who never spoke or revealed much of war on many fronts. Lark Force history needs to be remembered on many fronts. So thank you. I still remember contacting the 2/22 Association to advise of his death. Such emotion on the line - as said” not many of us left now- hope we can be remembered” . Well, yes always remembered by me & many. Vale. 😢
My grandfather fought with the 🇦🇺 army during WW11. I'd like 👍 to see 👀 more about Australian troops during WW11, as I'm a proud Australian. I think there's a little too much about the German's during WW11. I love ❤ your channel, Mark
I spent a month in Rabaul earlier this year for work. Being an avid WWII history buff, it was overwhelming to be surrounded by so many reminders of that conflict. Talking to older locals who were handed down stories of the war by family members was a very sobering experience when it comes to the scale of the destruction to Rabaul and the brutality of the Japanese. Standing on a high ridge overlooking Simpson Harbor and imagining B-25s swooping in to strafe dozens of ships with flak exploding everywhere was a sight to behold.
It's always a pleasure listenning to you Mark!
Growing up in Perth in the 90s and early 2000's we never learned this in school. Thanks Mark
You’re the absolute best historical channel out there. They need too give you your own series and big budget. I thought I knew a lot about world war 2 but you never cease too surprise me with new and interesting things.
Very good series that you plan to cover. So much of the battle in the Pacific remains almost unspoken about. We mainly here tales of large battles like Iwo Jima, Okinawa, or the Philippines. There is so much history to be learned about the battles and even the suffering of soldiers in the Southern Pacific, especially early in the war. Looking forward to more in this series. Thank you Dr. Felton for your always interesting and informative content.
The two six inch guns in Rabaul were re-located there from Fort Wallace in Newcastle when it was re-armed with 9.2 inch guns. The range finder cams on them are labelled "Fort Stockton" which was Wallace's name before being re-named Fort Wallace.
Watching Mark Felton's youtube channels is better than anything the History Channel puts out. He has researched diligently to find these small stories to bring to us that a multi million dollar TV channel won't spend the time to research as hard to find. All the History Channel can cover is the big events of wars over and over. Mr. Mark Felton is a treasure to the curious interested in the history of wars.
Thanks for this video Mark! Wish you an early Merry Christmas with your family and friends!
Thank you for saying merry Christmas instead of happy holidays
Same to you!
My great uncle Ray Lees was a private in the 1st independent company as part of Lark force. He came from Warrigal in Gippsland Victoria. 1Ind Comp was assigned to defend the airfield at Rabaul where he was wounded and captured by the Japanese. He ended up as one of the POWs onboard the Montevideo Maru and went down with the ship when the USS Sturgeon torpedoed it. RIP Ray.
I can't get enough of your videos. Your truly the best history based person on CZcams. I was actually looking to get one of your books. Any recommendations on what to read first?
JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH, JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH! 🎁🥂
Thank you Dr. Felton for giving us an honest blunt version of these events.
My grandfather reckons it was borin..signed up at Newtown in Sydney ..sent off...airforce .mechanic cook builder concrete..said every day they blow up the runway..then I go concrete it again...the bastardssss..mom's dad joined up in Qld did a year..then threw him out..cancer or sum shit..same place he was sent..similiar..ya get it
It is hard to fathom the brutality of Japanese troops. One of my father's friends, a Singaporean Chinese, witnessed his parents being beheaded by the Japanese who brutalised the Chinese population of occupied Singapore. He never forgave them and refused to do business with the Japanese after the war until the day he died.
They had a primitive quasi medieval mentality
Hello Dr. Felton. Always totally absorbed watching your excellent presentations. My uncle was Captain Ben Hooper Medical. Two times in New Guinea on the front line. Twice returned to recover from malaria. Late 1944 he joined Z Special Force. Unfortunately he drowned on manoeuvres off Perth 9th March 1945. Just asking if you do a story on Z Special Force. Many thanks for what you do. Andy from Rockhampton Queensland Australia. Ta mate.
Merry Christmas Dr Felton!
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Same to you!
The old guy who lived next door when i was a kid drove landing craft in the pacific. Super nice guy, he didn't hate anything except the Japanese. Even at the end of his life 60 years later. I don't even know if he saw it first hand, but just knowing what they did to others like him stuck with him the rest of his life.
They were brutal even before the war began. They just carried on, and against non combatants too. They didn’t care. Their mindset was Hitler-esque: they thought they were the superior world race. That’s what they taught, and that’s the reason that they had so much hatred.
So little is acknowledged about this period of Australian history. The pathetic government attempts at defence and the Japanese cruelty. Thank you for honouring the sacrifice of those brave men given a hopeless job.
As I understand the Japanese don't teach this history in their schools. It's like it never happened.
Reading John Curtin's biography will help give some insight into what the Government was dealing with during this period of the War.
Dr Felton as you get closer to Kokoda, I would love for you to do something on Brigadier Arnold Potts & perhaps one of the greatest fighting withdrawals of any Australian body of troops. Mind you this is 2 years old ,shame I hadn't seen this sooner. Thankyou.
Love these audio pieces.
Thank you Mr. Felton. With every video/audio I keep learning new things about WWII even as I was an avid Pacific theater history consumer in my youth.
my grandfather was on the last plane out of Ambon and to his dying day he was 'exceptionally crooked' on the organisation that was non existent at Ambon and other 'defensive positions'. One story is that some prisoners were put into bamboo cages bayoneted and then thrown into the sea at Ambon to be eaten alive by sharks. I don't doubt the truth of this particular story. You should do a story on Vivian Bullwinkle sole survivor of 20 odd shipwreck survivors who where machine gunned in the ocean on I believe Banka Island
Lord Russell included her and tens of thousands of others (non combatants) in his book, ‘The Knights of Bushido.’ It’s difficult to read, but that and other books on the Japanese atrocities need to be read. Horrific. Past horrific.
Thank you for researching this and posting Dr Felton. I visited the former POW camp in Sandakan in Borneo about 10 years ago. It would great if you would be able to cover that story and the sad fate of the Australian 8th Division soldiers who ended up there after the fall of Singapore.
Mark, perhaps do a video on an extremely saddening event with Aussie soldiers in WW2. In the Australian War Memorial, there is a room devoted entirely to the Borneo Sandakan Death March, where all Aussie/Brit POWs died during march, except for six Aussies who escaped into the jungle, and were able to tell the story. Approx 1,787 Australians and 641 British soldiers died between January and August 1945. A rescue plan was activated but appears not to have been followed through.
It would be really hard to show an enemy,in this case the Japanese,any sort of mercy or any "leniency" when they turned it around and it was the Japanese in captivity,I imagine plenty of the allied troops would have been happy to put a bullet between their eyes, but as we know it didn't go down like that
It most definitely did “go down like that” on several occasions. You can read first hand accounts from US Marines talking about how they often took no prisoners, especially after some japanese soldiers would fake surrender only to pull a grenade at the last second. Obviously nothing close to the sheer scale & brutality of the Japanese, but to think it never happened would be naive
Don't fool yourself! Allied soldiers are human and humans take revenge. Many cases of it.
Cheers!
Thank you, Mark, for telling this story. It’s wonderful to see your attention turn toward Australian military history, however grim the chapter may be.
I always find it very hard when reading or seeing the history of my country men at the hands of the Japanese.
If it makes you feel any better we only left 12 of them alive after Tarawa. There were over 20,000 of them on the island before the US landed too.
Thank you very much, Dr Felton, for this long - awaited episode. It’s of very direct relevance to Tasmanians such as myself. My grandfather was an AIF member of an Anti-Tank regiment that had fought in Greece, Crete, and Syria, prior to redeployment to New Guinea, to replace the very hard-pressed ( and unfairly maligned ) Militia on Kokoda. My great - uncle was a member of the ‘ stay - behind ‘ Commonwealth troops ( mostly Australian and British ) , on what was then Japanese - occupied Portuguese Timor,..conducting guerrilla activities with strong local support.
Unfortunately, he ended up as a POW in Changi, not before being forced to watch Japanese ‘ soldiers ‘ enacting brutal acts of horrific violence upon assembled batches of nuns and nurses on the wharves of Singapore.
The Japanese soldiers were taught death before dishonor, that the enemy were not humans and that surrender was not to be accepted. It was the Japanese divine right to conquer the world and anyone in their way was to be removed.
Even to this day Japan have not acknowledged some* of the horrible war crimes.
Nippon Kaigi. That's all you need to know.
True, but the later attempts to hide the atrocities speaks volumes about their consciences…
My great uncle is Lieutenant Ron J Green. Gullforce
P.O.W. In Ambon. Went out to work with troops every day but didn’t have to because of rank.
Lucky to be one of roughly 300 out of 1100 to survive.
Mark thanks for the work and effort here again this year and best wishes to you and your family there 🎄
PS, don't mention the Ashes 😉😎🥂
Yay! At last. I've been waiting for the Australian story. Thank you. Excellent programs.
My Father was in New Guinea. He probably survived by getting yellow fever. He always complained about military reunions, there was hardly anyone there. My roommate in the hospital getting my full hip replacement, General Rus McGovern told me of McArthur, talking to the general over New Guinea, "Don't come home," meaning win, or die there, McArthur said. It was a group of Australians and American soldiers.
Pretty sure it was Gen. Robert Eichelberger that McArthur gave that speech to.
@@bushyfromoz8834 Thanks, My hospital roommate was present, told me about it, but I wasn't taking notes.
In the early days of WW2, my father was a boot maker, and the Australian army recruitment people came around to the factory in Sydney asking for volunteers to join up. (That was before conscription was made compulsory). As boot making was a protected war industry no one was obliged to join, but many of the younger workers signed up, my mother wouldn't let my dad join as they were just married and had just had a baby (my eldest brother). Many of those that did join up eventually were sent to Singapore and many ended up as slave labourers on the Burma railway. My dad was a little guy, I doubt he would have survived the atrocities of the railway, and if he had gone I wouldn't be here to type this story...
One of my father's brothers fought in New Guinea, and was part of a prisoner guard squad that guarded some of the few Japanese soldiers that were captured alive, years later one of the Japanese soldiers contacted my uncle and came to Australia to visit him, they got on well together, not everyone hated the Japanese.
My pop was a z unit comando, and the stories he use to tell us of the Japanese treatment of soldiers were terrible,he had buttons made of cyanide incase of capture
Thank you for this Dr. Felton I have just come across this as my Dads cousin Pte. Eric J, Hansford was at Rabaul and supposedly was on the Montevideo Maru that went down off Luzon and my mums first husband was on Ambon and perished over there.
*Gets stabbed 11 times by a bayonet
Crikey that’s it -Chad Aussie
"It only actually hurt when he stabbed me in the mouth. The other 10 stabs were nothing really."
Thanks Mark, my dad and uncle fought in Borneo and surroundings Islands against the Japanese. Man that's a bitter pill to swallow.
My uncle was beheaded on Ambon he was with the Larhar garrison...he was with GULL FORCE. MacArthur failed to OK the rescue attempts.
Thanks Dr. Felton for supplying the map. I usually have to go back and forth stopping the video without one.
...& some people question why Australians of the WW2 generations were never able to forgive (&/or forget) the Japanese (& the many atrocities they committed in WW2) in the 'Post WW2' era.
This is my first time listening to this. I thought it was a brilliant presentation and very clear. I'll get right into this Mate. Keep up the good work
Australia basically gets no love for our efforts in ww1 and ww2 . Nice to see some coverage.
Thank you for making this video. We can’t forget.
The Imperial Japanese Military: Where every unit in all branches were Dirlewangers.
Or worse.
Amazing how they got away with it.
Thank you Mark for bringing this history to the forefront. All too often the Australian contribution to the war is left aside. I am always interested in their involvement and their sacrifices.
My great grandfather fought in PNG, then joined the special forces as a human guinea pig for testing of chemical warfare.
Typical Aussie: “the fun really started”
That's insanely dark. Great episode man but damn! Keep em coming
as a canadian and human i bow to these aussie heroes defending australia
Don’t be so obsequious it is embarrassing.
G'day Mark, I usually watch all your videos as soon as I can. In the case of these two videos, the other being on another wartime atrocity involving Gull Force, I've avoided watching for over a year. When I took up military history as a serious academic study, I quickly discovered that certain topics were just too disturbing and mentally stressful to study in great detail.
My uncle D'arcy, which I've mentioned in other WW2 Pacific Theatre comments, was with the Australian 2nd/40th Battalion who spent most of the war as POWs, my uncle only surviving because they recognised him as an expert axeman; a skill he learned as a Tasmanian farmer from a young age.
That was no 'easy ticket' through the routine Japanese atrocities. He was repeatedly, brutally tortured for, apparently no logical reason at all, as were so many of his comrades in arms.
Many of them died because of their treatment, while many were simply left to perish because of starvation; being worked to death or because of the near total absence of even the simplest of medicines. Death by dysentery is a shocking and largely treatable, avoidable condition.
I remember first reading about Lark and Gull forces. These official histories would have sent my poor uncle D'arcy 'over the top' with outrage. D'arcy was born with a speech defect that was then called 'stuttering' or 'stammering'. When his IJF captors had finished with him and he miraculously made it home, his 'stuttering' was so bad he often could not be understood.
The mere sight of a picture of a Japanese person in a newspaper or on the TV could deeply upset D'arcy, physically and mentally.
So, when I came to read the official and anecdotal accounts of the countless atrocities committed by the IJF on Australian POWs and countless other prisoners, I found the experience incredibly difficult to endure without thinking that whatever torture my uncle suffered, there were hundreds of other prisoners and Australian troops who had it much worse.
I found it almost impossible to maintain my 'academic impartiality' on these subjects and, to tell the truth, I still do to this very day.
Strangely, what happened to the Australian soldiers and the way they were treated actually helped me in trying to understand how and why so many ordinary German soldiers and members of the SS, in WW2, were guilty of acts of unspeakable cruelty and murder.
I fully recognise that all combatants were, to some degree, responsible for war crimes; however, only Hitler's regime, Stalin's dictatorship and the 'godlike' word of the Japanese emperor saw the 'enshrinement' of torture, murder and genocide into official national policy of those three countries.
It's not 'scientific' or even academically acceptable, however, after years of deliberations the best I can come up with is: these nations adopted policies of murder on an almost 'industrial scale' simply because they could.
All three nations thought they would get away with these crimes.
Historically speaking, only Joseph Stalin did get away with his horrendous war crimes by joining the Allied side during the war. He continued purging and persecuting his citizens, post war, right up to his sudden death in 1953.
Far too many Japanese war criminals avoided prosecution and punishment and, as far as I've been able to monitor it; I've yet to hear or read about the Japanese use of their word for 'sorry' uttered by any post-war leader. They prefer to use words like 'unfortunate' and 'regrettable'. Every Japanese leader since WW2 has publicly prayed, each year, at a shrine that is the last resting place of war criminals who were prosecuted and executed and many more that were not even detained for questioning.
Australian military tribunals did vigorously prosecute those they could find and prove to be involved. But strangely, they came to a sudden end as so many people and authorities around the world did; they tired of WW2 matters dragging on.
Thank you, Mark for making these sad facts known to an international audience.
Bill H.
Salute from 🇺🇸 to 🇦🇺
Thankyou for this, with the coming anzac day it was great to have some stuff to watch to help me remember. My grampa fought in the battle of darwin.
I am always amazed by the toughness of the Australians.
This should all be remembered, for a similar fate would await them at the hands of the Chinese.
What’s this about the Chinese?? When?
What a dire situation, happy to hear that some made it back.
Tough choice.. fight or surrender. Die fighting or die after surrendering. As the war progressed Australians learnt to never surrender.
It’s a hard one to press like on this video, especially as an Aussie.
Hi Dr. Felton. Thanks for covering this bleak episode of Australian history. Typically our (Australian) involvement in WWII and other conflicts isn't widely taught unfortunately.