I played Entrenched in my version of Qi'ra and it wrecks Tie Phantom. I had an argument with one person because they said it was a bug that Make an Opening killed their Tie Phantom (I killed one in this way) and they insisted it CAN'T be killed by events. They didn't want to hear what I said. Oh well. Awesome video, keep up the great content. My version was Cunning fyi
@@SWUDADI also think Lom Pike is great in Green Qi'ra. With all the removal, who cares if a unit of your choice gets a shield? Us getting a shield is huge with the Qi'ra flip
Just tried this list against a Vader Blue. Went to 39 minutes 🤣 client was an all star towards the end as we milled each other with client keeping us afloat. Idk about the control mirror, but Kira + Snoke is a great pairing
@@davidvelazquez677 yeah that’s one of the tougher matchups for sure. Yeah Client is a beast, and one of the MVPs Snoke is crazy good in Qi’ra, and overwhelming barrage is so good with Snoke out
@@SWUDAD Yeah that does not seem correct. Vigilance uses "Defeat an enemy.." and LTP is "This unit can't be captured, damaged, or DEFEATED by enemy card abilities." so help me out here. How would that make sense, what am I missing?
Great content mate, exactly what I was looking for ❤ Can you do a Hondo Blue version of this? Seems similar but with xp tokens instead of shields and the card advantage of smuggle
What would you swap to make this a set 2 Krennic deck? I find her, Iden, and Krennic interchangeable in the villain soft control archetype. Love the content, you’re one of my go-to channels!
Appreciate it!! Not sure, I agree to a certain extent. Although, I still think Iden is the strongest overall. I would honestly just try this list below with Krennic as the leader and go from there. 1 Director Krennic 1 Energy Conversion Lab // Ground Units 2 Darth Vader, Commanding the First Legion 2 Gideon Hask, Ruthless Loyalist 3 Hylobon Enforcer 2 Maul, Shadow Collective Visionary 3 Pyke Sentinel 2 Rukh, Thrawn's Assassin 3 Superlaser Technician 2 Supreme Leader Snoke, Shadow Ruler 3 The Client, Dictated By Discretion // Space Units 2 Avenger, Hunting Star Destroyer 3 Consortium StarViper 2 Inferno Four, Unforgetting // Events 2 Make an Opening 3 Overwhelming Barrage 3 Power of the Dark Side 3 Resupply 2 Rival's Fall 2 Superlaser Blast 2 Takedown 2 Timely Intervention 2 Vigilance // Sideboard 1 Avenger, Hunting Star Destroyer 2 Devastator, Inescapable 1 Make an Opening 3 Relentless, Konstantine's Folly 1 Restock 1 Superlaser Blast 1 Vigilance
@@SWUDAD Thanks! My list is very, very similar so I'll have to do some more testing. I like the +1 on damage from Krennic, as well as his Restore 2 and flip on 5. Pairs so well with ECL Gideon and Steadfast. Though it seems Rukh is a better option than Steadfast with Dragons out there. I like to sideboard 2 Devotions vs Aggro to get that sweet Restore 4 on Krennic or a Consortium. Iden always feels weak to me on her flip for some reason.
Agree with a lot of your conclusions at the start regarding the unit choices. I've been running a version very close to this (except Pursuers over the Enforcers and no Rukhs) off and on for the last three weeks or so on Karabast myself. Might try the Rukhs as I've been meaning to return to this build here soon after testing out some other decks. What are your thoughts on Lom Pyke? I've been considering him in the 5 drop slot as well but decided against it since it's a nonbo with OB but I can see it being good.
Yea Rukh has been great. I am not sure about Lom Pyke. Can't decide if I even like that card yet lol ... Need to test it out more. It definitely has potential with the right supporting cast
I like the list; good content, i appreciated. Not sure I would run rivals fall personally, better to double/tripple up on some of the other stuff. The deck is really stretched and it will end up winning in spots in an unreliable way most likely.. that's the only real criticism i can come up with.. aka you will have the answer in your deck but wont have it in hand when you need it.
Appreciate it! Rival's fall has been really good in here, and necessary for bigger threats that can come out of no where, and leaders that pump themselves up like (Sabine, Bo-Katan, Boba Fett, etc...) As far as the 2 of's, that absolutely might change as the meta develops. However, in testing it doesn't feel stretched too thin. It give's the deck a little more versatility in mainboard, and helps you to be more well rounded for game 1. With the Sideboard you are bringing in a lot of the 3rd copy of different cards for specific matchups for example (3rd Make an Opening/3rd Vigilance/3rd The Client/Avenger/3rd Superlaser blast, 3x Relentless). The other reason is there are just so many good cards now for these colors. Your removal (Power of the Darkside/Takedown/Rival's Fall) and (Snoke/Maul/Vader) for example, and each of them are good in different scenarios. Avenger is still amazing, and I just wanted to be able to fit everything in. With that being said the Sideboard is still a "rough draft" as the meta develops, and even the main board may be adjusted as certain decks start to rise to the top of the meta If there was one card to potentially take out it would be the "2x Death Trooper". Add in "3rd Client", and "2nd Maul" from sideboard. In sideboard you could add "2 top target" if you are worried about aggro, or "2x Fell the Dragon" if you are worried about bigger units, or "2nd Devastator, and 1-2x Restock" if you are worried about control. So many potential options right now as things are developing.
You mentioned trying to figure out Qi'Ra Red, but ultimately, Green seems to flow better. I'm trying to work out the kinks for a Qi'Ra Red deck myself pitting it against Throrrk's ECL Sabine Green in Karabast, but AI Sabine Green is still consistently smacking me down. Did you face similar challenges when deckbuilding and testing Qi'Ra Red vs ECL Sabine Green? I'd like to try and make Qi'Ra Red work, but I'm struggling lol
I haven't test Qi'ra Red yet. But I was having that problem with Qi'ra Green at first against Sabine and other aggro decks until I changed some things around. The Client was huge for the aggro matchups though. I would suggest 2-3x in the mainboard, with the 3rd in the sideboard at the very least
@@SWUDAD Ah my bad! Thought you had mentioned Qi'Ra Red. I do agree in your assessment that the inclination to have a lot of units with Grit w/Qi'Ra is very tempting. The Client and Make An Opening w/Qi'Ra has been super helpful to retain some hitpoints. I keep deck testing; hopefully, Qi'Ra Red can be a viable deck vs high aggro :)
@@ThiagoAugustoo appreciate it! Let me know how it goes One Suttle change you can make for a little more consistency is take out 2x Deathtrooper, and add the 1x Client, and 1x Maul from the sideboard
@@SWUDAD Yep, I don't have this big cards like Vader, Avenger and the others, So I need made big changes here for more consistency. I'll try and report here or in our channel @SWDBR here on youtube.
I think both are viable. It's hard to say. I will be doing an Iden Green video soon with the updated list from SoG. I can give you a better answer after I do that
she comes down earlier to stabilize you. Her ability puts units lower for follow up vigilance, maul snoke and she can have massive barrages. I think iden/krennic/qira are fairly interchangeable depending on preference.
@@Stranglebat Lom Pyke is cool, but I like it better in Saxon. I chose rukh and Gideon at the 5 spot for the versatility they have at removing threats. Super commando I like a lot in Iden Blue/Red where you can put an entrenched on it to make it a 7/7 sentinel
@SWUDAD I'm planning on testing commando and lom and ruhk in mine. I am also running entrench because I went super light In space sound of some inferno 4s and consortium's until the big drops. so the entrench commandos plan is still good and qira can reshield hopefully! it's testing time!
Yeah because it's -2/-2 counters, and not damage. Just have to make sure you use it before they start pumping up the Phantom though. Make an opening, and Force lightning are two cards that work against Phantom
@@jackoneill9167 Against Sabine Green is what I have tested this deck against the most. The changes I made to the original list were due to having difficulty with Sabine Green. That being said, since making the changes the deck has not lost to Sabine Green. "The Client" is huge for that matchup, and absolutely necessary
@@maeteor If you watch the "entire" intro I talk about how the first 3 games are with the first iteration of the deck before I took certain cards out. The last game is with the final iteration. Here is my current updated version for reference. Leader and Base 1 Qi'ra, I Alone Survived 1 Energy Conversion Lab // Ground Units 2 Darth Vader, Commanding the First Legion 2 Gideon Hask, Ruthless Loyalist 3 Hylobon Enforcer 2 Maul, Shadow Collective Visionary 3 Pyke Sentinel 2 Rukh, Thrawn's Assassin 3 Superlaser Technician 2 Supreme Leader Snoke, Shadow Ruler 3 The Client, Dictated By Discretion // Space Units 2 Avenger, Hunting Star Destroyer 3 Consortium StarViper 2 Inferno Four, Unforgetting // Events 2 Make an Opening 3 Overwhelming Barrage 3 Power of the Dark Side 3 Resupply 2 Rival's Fall 2 Superlaser Blast 2 Takedown 2 Timely Intervention 2 Vigilance // Sideboard 1 Avenger, Hunting Star Destroyer 2 Devastator, Inescapable 1 Make an Opening 3 Relentless, Konstantine's Folly 1 Restock 1 Superlaser Blast 1 Vigilance
Give's the deck a little more versatility in mainboard, and helps you to be more well rounded for game 1. Sideboard you are bringing in a lot of the 3rd copy of different cards for specific matchups for example (Make an Opening/Vigilance/The Client/Avenger/Superlaser blast, 3x Relentless). The other reason is there are just so many good cards now for these colors. Your removal (Power of the Darkside/Takedown/Rival's Fall) and (Snoke/Maul/Vader) for example, and each of them are good in different scenarios. Avenger is still amazing, and I just wanted to be able to fit everything in. With that being said the Sideboard is still a "rough draft" as the meta develops, and even the main board may be adjusted as certain decks start to rise to the top of the meta
@@ajtame Nice ! I would suggest just copying this deck list into your forcetable, and playing against it over and over again until you figure out how to beat it consistently. Than it won't feel so "unfun", but more of a "these are the cards I need to beat"soft control". I think Kylo has a pretty solid matchup because you are getting in the bulk of your damage before Qi'ra flips, and than you are finishing them off with your "reach". Han Green ramp I feel has a favorable matchup against soft control because of all of your ramp, and Krayt Dragon. Han Green ramp is honestly just insane.
Have you had success with Qi'ra yet??? What color?? Green/Red/Blue???
I played Entrenched in my version of Qi'ra and it wrecks Tie Phantom. I had an argument with one person because they said it was a bug that Make an Opening killed their Tie Phantom (I killed one in this way) and they insisted it CAN'T be killed by events. They didn't want to hear what I said. Oh well. Awesome video, keep up the great content. My version was Cunning fyi
yeah a lot of people act like the phantom is invincible. It's pretty easy to deal with as long as you have a plan for it (which you should)
Entrenched decent on the client etc too 5/8 early
@@SWUDADI also think Lom Pike is great in Green Qi'ra. With all the removal, who cares if a unit of your choice gets a shield? Us getting a shield is huge with the Qi'ra flip
@@stonerainproductions Yea I could see that card being solid, just haven't tested it yet.
Just tried this list against a Vader Blue. Went to 39 minutes 🤣 client was an all star towards the end as we milled each other with client keeping us afloat.
Idk about the control mirror, but Kira + Snoke is a great pairing
@@davidvelazquez677 yeah that’s one of the tougher matchups for sure. Yeah Client is a beast, and one of the MVPs
Snoke is crazy good in Qi’ra, and overwhelming barrage is so good with Snoke out
Missing too many of the legendaries to build this. Looks like fun
I hear that. It definitely is. Give it a shot on force table/karabast
Oh wow, I didn’t realize Make An Opening would defeat Lurking Tie! I assumed the text would have the same no-effect.
@@SWUDAD Yeah that does not seem correct. Vigilance uses "Defeat an enemy.." and LTP is "This unit can't be captured, damaged, or DEFEATED by enemy card abilities." so help me out here. How would that make sense, what am I missing?
@@samuelmelancon6349 Vigilance does not kill the Phantom.. I was thinking about "Luke Skywalker" giving it -3/-3 which does kill it
Great content mate, exactly what I was looking for ❤
Can you do a Hondo Blue version of this? Seems similar but with xp tokens instead of shields and the card advantage of smuggle
@@friendofyoda5194 appreciate it !! I’ll have to look into Hondo, haven’t messed around with that leader much yet
Bro's Yellow Tarkin deck was huge lol
What would you swap to make this a set 2 Krennic deck? I find her, Iden, and Krennic interchangeable in the villain soft control archetype. Love the content, you’re one of my go-to channels!
Appreciate it!! Not sure, I agree to a certain extent. Although, I still think Iden is the strongest overall. I would honestly just try this list below with Krennic as the leader and go from there.
1 Director Krennic
1 Energy Conversion Lab
// Ground Units
2 Darth Vader, Commanding the First Legion
2 Gideon Hask, Ruthless Loyalist
3 Hylobon Enforcer
2 Maul, Shadow Collective Visionary
3 Pyke Sentinel
2 Rukh, Thrawn's Assassin
3 Superlaser Technician
2 Supreme Leader Snoke, Shadow Ruler
3 The Client, Dictated By Discretion
// Space Units
2 Avenger, Hunting Star Destroyer
3 Consortium StarViper
2 Inferno Four, Unforgetting
// Events
2 Make an Opening
3 Overwhelming Barrage
3 Power of the Dark Side
3 Resupply
2 Rival's Fall
2 Superlaser Blast
2 Takedown
2 Timely Intervention
2 Vigilance
// Sideboard
1 Avenger, Hunting Star Destroyer
2 Devastator, Inescapable
1 Make an Opening
3 Relentless, Konstantine's Folly
1 Restock
1 Superlaser Blast
1 Vigilance
@@SWUDAD Thanks! My list is very, very similar so I'll have to do some more testing. I like the +1 on damage from Krennic, as well as his Restore 2 and flip on 5. Pairs so well with ECL Gideon and Steadfast. Though it seems Rukh is a better option than Steadfast with Dragons out there. I like to sideboard 2 Devotions vs Aggro to get that sweet Restore 4 on Krennic or a Consortium. Iden always feels weak to me on her flip for some reason.
@@csc4640 Yeah flipping on 5 definitely has its advantages.
Agree with a lot of your conclusions at the start regarding the unit choices. I've been running a version very close to this (except Pursuers over the Enforcers and no Rukhs) off and on for the last three weeks or so on Karabast myself. Might try the Rukhs as I've been meaning to return to this build here soon after testing out some other decks.
What are your thoughts on Lom Pyke? I've been considering him in the 5 drop slot as well but decided against it since it's a nonbo with OB but I can see it being good.
Yea Rukh has been great. I am not sure about Lom Pyke. Can't decide if I even like that card yet lol ... Need to test it out more. It definitely has potential with the right supporting cast
Oooo giveaway
Love this deck. I'll be playing it for sure. What do you think it will struggle against the most?
@@cubfn91 appreciate it! Let me know how it goes.Palpatine, discard, and hard control
I like the list; good content, i appreciated.
Not sure I would run rivals fall personally, better to double/tripple up on some of the other stuff.
The deck is really stretched and it will end up winning in spots in an unreliable way most likely.. that's the only real criticism i can come up with.. aka you will have the answer in your deck but wont have it in hand when you need it.
Appreciate it! Rival's fall has been really good in here, and necessary for bigger threats that can come out of no where, and leaders that pump themselves up like (Sabine, Bo-Katan, Boba Fett, etc...)
As far as the 2 of's, that absolutely might change as the meta develops. However, in testing it doesn't feel stretched too thin. It give's the deck a little more versatility in mainboard, and helps you to be more well rounded for game 1. With the Sideboard you are bringing in a lot of the 3rd copy of different cards for specific matchups for example (3rd Make an Opening/3rd Vigilance/3rd The Client/Avenger/3rd Superlaser blast, 3x Relentless).
The other reason is there are just so many good cards now for these colors. Your removal (Power of the Darkside/Takedown/Rival's Fall) and (Snoke/Maul/Vader) for example, and each of them are good in different scenarios. Avenger is still amazing, and I just wanted to be able to fit everything in.
With that being said the Sideboard is still a "rough draft" as the meta develops, and even the main board may be adjusted as certain decks start to rise to the top of the meta
If there was one card to potentially take out it would be the "2x Death Trooper". Add in "3rd Client", and "2nd Maul" from sideboard. In sideboard you could add "2 top target" if you are worried about aggro, or "2x Fell the Dragon" if you are worried about bigger units, or "2nd Devastator, and 1-2x Restock" if you are worried about control. So many potential options right now as things are developing.
Something like this.
Leader and Base
1 Qi'ra, I Alone Survived
1 Energy Conversion Lab
// Ground Units
2 Darth Vader, Commanding the First Legion
2 Gideon Hask, Ruthless Loyalist
3 Hylobon Enforcer
2 Maul, Shadow Collective Visionary
3 Pyke Sentinel
2 Rukh, Thrawn's Assassin
3 Superlaser Technician
2 Supreme Leader Snoke, Shadow Ruler
3 The Client, Dictated By Discretion
// Space Units
2 Avenger, Hunting Star Destroyer
3 Consortium StarViper
2 Inferno Four, Unforgetting
// Events
2 Make an Opening
3 Overwhelming Barrage
3 Power of the Dark Side
3 Resupply
2 Rival's Fall
2 Superlaser Blast
2 Takedown
2 Timely Intervention
2 Vigilance
// Sideboard
1 Avenger, Hunting Star Destroyer
2 Devastator, Inescapable
1 Make an Opening
3 Relentless, Konstantine's Folly
1 Restock
1 Superlaser Blast
1 Vigilance
You mentioned trying to figure out Qi'Ra Red, but ultimately, Green seems to flow better.
I'm trying to work out the kinks for a Qi'Ra Red deck myself pitting it against Throrrk's ECL Sabine Green in Karabast, but AI Sabine Green is still consistently smacking me down. Did you face similar challenges when deckbuilding and testing Qi'Ra Red vs ECL Sabine Green? I'd like to try and make Qi'Ra Red work, but I'm struggling lol
I haven't test Qi'ra Red yet. But I was having that problem with Qi'ra Green at first against Sabine and other aggro decks until I changed some things around. The Client was huge for the aggro matchups though. I would suggest 2-3x in the mainboard, with the 3rd in the sideboard at the very least
@@SWUDAD Ah my bad! Thought you had mentioned Qi'Ra Red.
I do agree in your assessment that the inclination to have a lot of units with Grit w/Qi'Ra is very tempting. The Client and Make An Opening w/Qi'Ra has been super helpful to retain some hitpoints. I keep deck testing; hopefully, Qi'Ra Red can be a viable deck vs high aggro :)
@@koro898 What's your list looking like? I can definitely mess around with it as well and see how it feels
Nice deck, I'll try
@@ThiagoAugustoo appreciate it! Let me know how it goes
One Suttle change you can make for a little more consistency is take out 2x Deathtrooper, and add the 1x Client, and 1x Maul from the sideboard
@@SWUDAD Yep, I don't have this big cards like Vader, Avenger and the others, So I need made big changes here for more consistency. I'll try and report here or in our channel @SWDBR here on youtube.
@@ThiagoAugustoo sounds good
Qi’ra is pretty interesting. But I didn’t see a lot of her ability being used so would you pick her over Iden?
I think both are viable. It's hard to say. I will be doing an Iden Green video soon with the updated list from SoG. I can give you a better answer after I do that
I agree, I think Iden is better
she comes down earlier to stabilize you. Her ability puts units lower for follow up vigilance, maul snoke and she can have massive barrages. I think iden/krennic/qira are fairly interchangeable depending on preference.
New to SWU, what website or app are you using to play online?
Karabast. Upload your deck from SWUDB, and play against people for free
Thoughts on Lom Pyke and Mando Super Commandos? I wanted to build my qira with more sentinels to try and leverage her abilities into more 2 for 1s
@@Stranglebat Lom Pyke is cool, but I like it better in Saxon. I chose rukh and Gideon at the 5 spot for the versatility they have at removing threats.
Super commando I like a lot in Iden Blue/Red where you can put an entrenched on it to make it a 7/7 sentinel
@SWUDAD I'm planning on testing commando and lom and ruhk in mine. I am also running entrench because I went super light In space sound of some inferno 4s and consortium's until the big drops. so the entrench commandos plan is still good and qira can reshield hopefully! it's testing time!
@@Stranglebat Nice. let me know how it goes!
Regarding Lurking Tie Phantom... Make an Opening would not have any effect on that unit, correct? Or is it because you aren't "doing damage"?
Exactly. You just reduce its stats and dont damage it, thats why make an opening is amazing against lurking tie
Yeah because it's -2/-2 counters, and not damage. Just have to make sure you use it before they start pumping up the Phantom though. Make an opening, and Force lightning are two cards that work against Phantom
Which deck do you think is better? This one or Rey red?
Hard to say I haven't tested Rey Red yet. So couldn't give you an honest opinion on that.
@@SWUDAD All right, thanks anyway. How well does the deck work against Sabine ECL?
@@jackoneill9167 Against Sabine Green is what I have tested this deck against the most. The changes I made to the original list were due to having difficulty with Sabine Green. That being said, since making the changes the deck has not lost to Sabine Green. "The Client" is huge for that matchup, and absolutely necessary
@@SWUDAD Okay thanks:)
Depends on metegame, dies to Palp :(
@@inanit8522 every deck has a weakness
Hello, you said you removed Phase-III Dark Trooper and it's not in the card list but game 2 against Bo, you use them?
also, top target isn't in the card list but you play it in the games. how many cards is your actual Karabast deck?
@@maeteor If you watch the "entire" intro I talk about how the first 3 games are with the first iteration of the deck before I took certain cards out. The last game is with the final iteration. Here is my current updated version for reference.
Leader and Base
1 Qi'ra, I Alone Survived
1 Energy Conversion Lab
// Ground Units
2 Darth Vader, Commanding the First Legion
2 Gideon Hask, Ruthless Loyalist
3 Hylobon Enforcer
2 Maul, Shadow Collective Visionary
3 Pyke Sentinel
2 Rukh, Thrawn's Assassin
3 Superlaser Technician
2 Supreme Leader Snoke, Shadow Ruler
3 The Client, Dictated By Discretion
// Space Units
2 Avenger, Hunting Star Destroyer
3 Consortium StarViper
2 Inferno Four, Unforgetting
// Events
2 Make an Opening
3 Overwhelming Barrage
3 Power of the Dark Side
3 Resupply
2 Rival's Fall
2 Superlaser Blast
2 Takedown
2 Timely Intervention
2 Vigilance
// Sideboard
1 Avenger, Hunting Star Destroyer
2 Devastator, Inescapable
1 Make an Opening
3 Relentless, Konstantine's Folly
1 Restock
1 Superlaser Blast
1 Vigilance
Why so many 2 of’s? Jw
Give's the deck a little more versatility in mainboard, and helps you to be more well rounded for game 1. Sideboard you are bringing in a lot of the 3rd copy of different cards for specific matchups for example (Make an Opening/Vigilance/The Client/Avenger/Superlaser blast, 3x Relentless).
The other reason is there are just so many good cards now for these colors. Your removal (Power of the Darkside/Takedown/Rival's Fall) and (Snoke/Maul/Vader) for example, and each of them are good in different scenarios. Avenger is still amazing, and I just wanted to be able to fit everything in.
With that being said the Sideboard is still a "rough draft" as the meta develops, and even the main board may be adjusted as certain decks start to rise to the top of the meta
This looks super unfun to play against haha
What's your main deck?
@@SWUDAD Playing Tarkin Yellow right now, because its cheap, also considering the Han and Kylo you featured
@@ajtame Nice ! I would suggest just copying this deck list into your forcetable, and playing against it over and over again until you figure out how to beat it consistently.
Than it won't feel so "unfun", but more of a "these are the cards I need to beat"soft control".
I think Kylo has a pretty solid matchup because you are getting in the bulk of your damage before Qi'ra flips, and than you are finishing them off with your "reach".
Han Green ramp I feel has a favorable matchup against soft control because of all of your ramp, and Krayt Dragon. Han Green ramp is honestly just insane.