The Truth About Music In Islam | Imam Mazhar Mahmood | Saleh Family
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- "In today’s episode, Will and Sana virtually sit down once again with Imam Mazhar Mahmood and tackle one of the most contentious issues facing Muslims today. MUSIC. From this conversation (although many opinions exist) we learn that music is indeed not impermissible as so many claim. Citing sources from the Quran, the living tradition of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), the companions, the great Imams, and scholars of the past up until today - you will come to know that there is indeed another side to the coin. With love and respect, we address this difference of opinion with the hopes of promoting unity amongst us. Sit back, buckle up and get ready to learn a whole lot of stuff!"
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So much positivity. Everything you said were facts, and everything you said taught me alot more stuff than before. Explained beautifully
Can you confirm the specific "facts" you speak of? Feel free to summarise.
Salam thank you for discussing this topic but what about the hadith from Sahih Bukhari which says: “From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful.” Doesn’t this hadith essentially mean that musician instruments are one of the haram things that some Muslims will make halal?
Disclaimer: If any mistakes are made the mistake are from me. Not in the Quran and or Islam.
If this were to be fully authentic, then it would be contradictory to what the prophet has said, in this hadith it might be implying the ALL instruments are haram, however we know that the prophet seemingly just allowed the duff, therefore making this hadith a little problematic, plus Sahih Bukhari doesn't mean that all the hadiths in there are sahih, Sahih Bukhari is collection of hadith that has been collected by imam bukhari, and in that collection he has organized it in different categories.
This hadith is a Munqati'a (broken) tradition, for there is no link between Bukhari and Sadqa Bin Khalid (whom the chain of this tradition includes).the hadith is disputed because the subnarrator is not sure who said it, hence the “Abu Amir OR Abu Malik. Its chain of transmission is not connected to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) and this invalidates its authenticity. Ibn Hazm rejects it for that very reason. Moreover, the sub-narrator, Hisham Ibn `Ammar is declared ‘weak’ by many scholars of the Science of Hadith Methodology.
For arguments sake, lets take the majority opinion that it is sahih. It's not explicitly stating musical instruments to be haram. You might understand it to be an implication,
but it's for sure not explicit. Like it says silk will be prohibited, however the hadith is not stating men or women, its giving a blanket statement. Which is false in this case bc we know silk is permissible for women and for men with certain medical conditions. Also in one of the Eid celebrations, Muhammad pbuh allowed the playing of the duf, so we know that blanket statement for all instruments which is what that hadith is implying is sus.
When coming up with rulings, if it's not explicitly stated, then it's important to look at context of when and why it was possibly said. I read somewhere that some scholars have not believed the prophet to be listing the things individually but he was most likely talking about how the ppl of jahiliyyah would be in gatherings where they would have extra marital sex, men wearing silk, and would be drinking, while listening to music, all of these things occuring at once would seem permissible in the future, so things like nightclubs, stripclubs that sort of stuff comes to mind, which is obv places us Muslims should avoid.
Edit: At 41:00 Imam Mazhar Mahmood talks about this certain hadith, seems like you haven't listened to the whole podcast
Yep!
He refrences this hadith in the podcast please listen over it again
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This is the hadīth in question:
وَقَالَ هِشَامُ بْنُ عَمَّارٍ : حَدَّثَنَا صَدَقَةُ بْنُ خَالِدٍ ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنُ يَزِيدَ بْنِ جَابِرٍ ، حَدَّثَنَا عَطِيَّةُ بْنُ قَيْسٍ الْكِلَابِيُّ ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنُ غَنْمٍ الْأَشْعَرِيُّ ، قَالَ : حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو عَامِرٍ أَوْ أَبُو مَالِكٍ الْأَشْعَرِيُّ ، وَاللَّهِ مَا كَذَبَنِي، سَمِعَ النَّبِيَّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ : " لَيَكُونَنَّ مِنْ أُمَّتِي أَقْوَامٌ يَسْتَحِلُّونَ الْحِرَ وَالْحَرِيرَ، وَالْخَمْرَ وَالْمَعَازِفَ، وَلَيَنْزِلَنَّ أَقْوَامٌ إِلَى جَنْبِ عَلَمٍ يَرُوحُ عَلَيْهِمْ بِسَارِحَةٍ لَهُمْ، يَأْتِيهِمْ - يَعْنِي الْفَقِيرَ - لِحَاجَةٍ، فَيَقُولُوا : ارْجِعْ إِلَيْنَا غَدًا، فَيُبَيِّتُهُمُ اللَّهُ، وَيَضَعُ الْعَلَمَ، وَيَمْسَخُ آخَرِينَ قِرَدَةً وَخَنَازِيرَ إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ B:5590
Hishām b. Ammār has been declared reliable by tough critics such as Imām Nasa'i so that's not an issue.
The issue is that at the beginning of the sanad Imām Bukhārī says وَقَالَ هِشَامُ بْنُ عَمَّارٍ and he did NOT say that حدثنا هشام بن عمار or سمعت
In the second one it would've meant that he heard Hishām narrate the hadīth to him. However, Bukhārī brings the sanad without explicitly mentioning that he heard the hadīth of Hishām.
Bukhārī first starts to say the words حدثنا but from Sadaqa b. Khaalid onwards. So that's where the issue lies in. Since he didn't say he heard from Hishām the next in line is Sadaqa b. Khālid who he said that he heard from but that's unlikely as Bukhārī was merely 14 (ish) when Sadaqa has passed away.
Which is what lead Ibn Hazam to say in his المحلى:
ولم يتصل ما بين البخاري وصدقة بن خالد
that there is link between Bukhārī and Sadaqa b. Khālid
Responses:
1. Ibn al Qayyim refutes Ibn Hazam and writes in تهذيب السنن that:
We know that Bukhārī has met Hishām and also narrated from him in other places in his Saheeh (e.g Hadeeth no.3661). Hence this narration will be given the judgement of direct hearing (اتصال) so now there is a link between Bukhārī and Sadaqa.
2. Ibn Hajar writes in Fathul Bārī there the sanad is completely authentic and is unbroken indicating that Bukhārī did hear this Hadīth from Hishām:
والحديث صحيح معروف الاتصال بشرط الصحيح
3. Baihaqī has narrated the same Hadīth in his Sunan also with a different chain of narration in H.6100:
أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو عَمْرٍو مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللهِ الْأَدِيبُ , أنبأ أَبُو بَكْرٍ الْإِسْمَاعِيلِيُّ، أَخْبَرَنِي الْحَسَنُ يَعْنِي ابْنَ سُفْيَانَ، ثنا هِشَامُ بْنُ عَمَّارٍ، ثنا صَدَقَةُ يَعْنِي ابْنَ خَالِدٍ، ثنا ابْنُ جَابِرٍ، عَنْ عَطِيَّةَ بْنِ قَيْسٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ غَنْمٍ، حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو عَامِرٍ، أَوْ أَبُو مَالِكٍ الْأَشْعَرِيُّ
[البيهقي، أبو بكر، السنن الكبرى للبيهقي، ٣٨٦/٣]
The next 'issue' is that in the sanad Bukhārī writes:
حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو عَامِرٍ أَوْ أَبُو مَالِكٍ الْأَشْعَرِيُّ
So both are Sahābī's and one of the narrators is unsure which one it is. This itself is fine so all sahābas are considered to be reliable it doesn't make a difference which one you narrate from.
This is not a new issue, Ibn Hajar, Ibnul Qayyim, Ibn Salāh, Albānī have all written against Ibn Hazam for writing against this Hadīth.
و الله أعلم
Salaam, what about dance music? (idk if it’s mentioned here, sorry if it is)
I like this podcast. Thank you. Finally, I found someone who uses his brain and speak sense. Thank you. Please more podcasts.
As a scholar of deen
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So is music haram
Assalamualaikum warahmatullah wabarakatuh ya Imam Is poetry the same as music 🎶 because I know sahabas liked poetry and would recite it
However did they use instruments? And we know certain instruments are only allowed like the Daff on certain occasions like Marriage ceremony, welcoming and Eid and can only be played by female children’s if I’m not mistaken BarakAllahu fiik
He wouldn’t answer your question because he knows that he’s completely wrong those are fake scholars and misguiders may Allah almighty guide us
@@ibrahimadrameh7770 using big words to scare the little kids
@@ibrahimadrameh7770 don't scare anyone. Don't misuse the word haram and Halal. Think deeply about the word haram. Haram means forbidden completely. And it will be forbidden without any question. And music is not completely forbidden. Because music has some type of benefits. It calms down anxiety disorder and nerves disorder, blood pressure etc. Also it improves sleepiness among children. And Islam doesn't completely forbid such good thing. Islam forbids a thing when it is very dangerous. And some type of music is bad. Rock and rap music is distracting
@@saniatamanna7763 She and shockingly this "Islamic Scholar" both said they listened to Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys in the past and referred to it as nothing bad whatsoever. This "scholar" is an absolute and utter deviant to the highest degree. He once said he learns from a man named "Mufti Abu Layth" who is universally accepted in the Islamic world as a joke almost and even someone purposely being dim witted and silly to destroy Islam from within. One example is he has a video called "Bukhari Is An Embarrassment To Islam". If you have even an iota of Islamic knowledge that's all you need to know.
Poetry is fine. Of course no companion who followed the teachings of the Quran and the Nabi (PBUH) played music instruments. This man they are talking to is an absolute deviant on the level of Abu Layth (who he regularly defends and shares a platform with) and Imran Hosein. Please refer to my comment above as to why music is unequivocally haram and why 95% of classical and modern day scholars have the exact same ruling on this.
Reformist and this family is the same..
Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari:
that he heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."
This is not an authentic hadith.
@@euphoricleo it is