Great video Man! I like the turkish bow the best! Just seems smoother for your shooting. I cannot pull that draw weight but you got a natural canter to it. Both bows are awesome!
It was a very nice comparison. Thanks to you for given your energy to these bows :) Also I think it's unfair comparison. Turkish bows not for pedestrian. It's designed to be on horseback. If the Korean bow is also designed like that then it's fair. And we must to respect the results. The Turks dont like any loosing anywhere, so please don't take offense to bad comments :) Thanks from Turkey.
hmm? thickness affecting bow's loss in tension is completely unbound. ex) very thick Longbows lose their tension much quicker than composite bows including Turkish, Mongolian, & Korean bows. composite bows lose their tention much slower and are more energy efficient. downside would be that they need extra attention. If i remember it correctly there's a LOT of maintenance for Korean traditional bows. If they are well taken care of, they last a life time. there are many Chinese/Monglian/Korean history to back that up : generals/soldiers keeping a good bow for their entire life and even passing it to generations. and the Korean bow in the video is NOT the traditonal one. they call it "Semi" traditional bow, if that was your point.
Yes there's lot of maintenance needed for composite bow like korean bow because of its thinner limb than most other composite bow, But while it got elasticity it doesnt get much tensile strength to keep the shape of its limb when unstringed in long run. I think the best comparison would be like turkish bow and korean bow, both got the same lenght, but while turkish curve less when unstringed, it still keep its shape much longer than korean bow.
Agreed. At least Same draw weight. or the comparison may be meaningless because bow manufacturers these days only change the form factors of the bow and call them different bows, although they have almost identical manufacturing process, with often same materials. But it will be hard to get traditional bows like that these days. So let's cheer the youtuber for the effort:)
Thanks for the upload!! What I would love to see is a speed test with your Manchu Bow Yarha and the heavy 100 grams/1500+grains arrow! Judging from your videos the Yarha seemed to handle the heavy weight arrow well. I think the result of speed testing the Yarha with heavy arrow could be interesting! Best regards!!
Yes, but the Korean is a 60 lbs draw as opposed to the Turkish which is 50 lbs draw. Not really a contest but the Turkish did have a energy almost equal that of the Korean.
This is not Turkish Bow vs Korean Bow. This is actually Alibow turkish style vs Korean style (manufacturer? ) bow "Products" comparison and test. They both not original historic bows. But good to see them both.
in this example i think the turkish 50 lbs bow is less cumbersome if you need to shoot many arrows, with less power of course but... one is 60 lbs and the other 50. I feel the true is the same kind of bow, the best solution to the same problem, a small but very powerful bow.
Jeez, you shoot well. I've only been shooting 11weeks starting with a 30# wooden bow to 35#, then 40#, to now a 45# alloy bow Mediterranean style, but really interested in trying the horse bows in higher 50#+ poundages.
iyoo1 a question I have is since many people comment on the necessity of drawing past the more conventional anchor points to almost the ear, how can you achieve a consistent shot with a "floating" anchor? Perhaps I misunderstood something. And, thanks for making the content.
thank you for taking your time to watch. as far as i know many oriental archers don't have solid anchor point. koreans pull their string all the way back almost behind head. when they reach tip of the arrow they know they are in Mahn Jak (means full draw). other than that, details of techniques, i do not know. i hope i had a coach but i'm doing 'trying and error' method. ^_^;
I really don’t think there’s a huge difference between these bows other than region. They are literally the same shape with similar construction consisting of a horn for more energy.
It looks like your bow hand is a little late on the kahtra, just saying..Also the Korean bow needs the traditional large handle for really good kahtra. I have 3 and they give great bow hand control, the Koreans knew what they were doing !!
TheDave570 thank you. I'm till practicing. Also I wrapped handle and, yes, that helps a bit. Now days I practice hwal-dae-up-gi with Korean style bow. A long journey :)
The grooved arrow system has been found and developed by Turkish Khan Metehan first time in weapon history , you have to use same style bows and arrows ..
I want to say something about the Turkish bow, this is not actually the Turkish bow. Because there should be buffalo tendon outside the bow and buffalo horn inside.
if you compare two bows both should be the same lb . we sure to expect the one which has more poundage would be more powerful since they both are asian bows.
o türk yayı değil arkadaşım, taklit olarak yapılmış sanırım, türk yayı daha hızlı ok atması için kısa yapılır ve kıvrımları dışa doğru bakar, kandırmışlar koreli kardeşimizi.
Although it looks like you are an avid shooter. It looks like your release was a little premature and yes I hate too say sometimes a little but sloppy. This I could see when your Chrono readings were slower. Very cool for learning bad habits. What is your draw length? It looks like your consistent with hand placement for draw but is that 28" or 30" no way for us to tell if you were doing a slight over or under draw this changing the draw weight. Good video overall. I have seen the Turkish bow from Ali on the web and wondered about it's performance.
hi, john. i'm only a few years in archery. turkish bow is 50 at 28, korean bow is 60 at 28. i know i'm not very consistent. it's a big hurdle i need to overcome since i did not have someone teaching me. turkish bow from alibow is a great bow. if the user - me - can use it in full potential of the bow. :) thanks for watching and comment. :)
Dude, Korean bow poundage is designed at about 31 inches. Not at 28 :) so it should be considered about 4 to 6 pounds less from 60# if your full draw is 28. anyway, thanks for your vid.
this is not Turkic bow. Turkic bow made by Horn and need to wait 1.5-2 years. and need to be inclined. And Turkic bow covered by animals tendoms and animal skin. Thats materiel gave slope And Turkic bow can use on horse.
+rep from Turkey this is a no Turkish ( Turkic ) bow this is a just shit PVC bow... Turkish bow need to wait for (nearly 5 years ) . yes it can wait 1.5-2 years but it can be not soo elastic :)
Curious to what brands and your opinions on quality of build. I'm an experienced bow hunter (traditional), but I want to try a horse bow. Thanks for the help. All the detractors commenting on CZcams videos are losers.
Modern or old, no matter where the bow comes from...the result is the some if you get hit/shot by one. Weight, range etc is just "modern nit picking" and becomes silly. Nice vid tho.
Hey dude, how do i know if i twisted a bow? I have kaya firefox and when i put it on the floor the upper limb is not flat on one side, and when i flip it the bottom limb is not flat.
That’s definitely twisted limbs. Just massage the limbs slowly back to form paying attention to which limb is the crooked one by referring to the riser/handle. Do this in a moderately warm area so o not over stress the bow.
First is not a Turkish Bow. 23 April 1920 is formed Turkish Nation, you mean Ottoman Bow. Korean and Türkish Bow are same homie. Only difference is you take other Woods, Korean take Bamboo.
There isn't a race as known Ottoman! They were Turks. Turk Nations exist from B.C 200 to nowadays. There is no difference between Turkey and Ottoman! So keep in your mind for yourself those dirty thoughts ...
Osmanlı'dan önce Türk'ler yay kullanmıyor muydu da Ottoman Bow diyorsun adı.İnsanlara yalan yanlış bilgi verme ayıptır. Osmanlılara gelene kadar o yay tekniği kullanan dolu Türk devleti vardı.
It is not a real Turkish bow you use. The real Turkish broadcast takes a year and a half. and its average speed is 250 fps. And the long range is on Turkish records with 847 meters in world record.
That bow is not turkish bow , that is fake cuz the real turkish bow is not only wooden , more than 5 different material using in real turkish bow , and the worlds speedest bow is turkish bow cuz the world record broken by a turkish guy who named Tozkoparan iskender , he shoot 846 meters with real traditional turkish bow ... soo that one is fake , sorry dude ...
I guess I'm not understanding the purpose of this...."review " I guess you might call it ...is it a comparison or a review of two different bows or which has better khatra..the purpose is very unclear here .
That is an improved form for dissemination, not a traditional style of Korean bow. HaHaHa!! Compared to traditional Korean bow, the story is different! ^^ The Korean bow is a U - shaped when released.
It's so funny how butt hurt the Turks are in this comparison. Relax guys they are both fiberglass replicas. Nothing to get all worked up over the kid is not doing science or saying his country Is better than yours. He is just having a go at it a little fun with some commercial made cheap bows, So lighten up Francis.
The turks are insane when it comes to archery. If you ask a turkish person they will probably say that the turks invented everything from the thumbring to the hornbow. It’s pretty funny for sure. I mean it’s not like there were hundreds of turkic tribes or something like that, right.. It seems that most turks don’t understand this piece of history.
Yes for sure. The turkish turks got influenced by their arabian neighbours I imagine, while other turkic groups like the uighurs do have a more asiatic appearance.
I am not butthurt lmao, I am happy to accept loss if I do. I had conversation about the types of shields used by Turks and Europeans and I accepted that ourd were inferiour, but this test doesn't really seem to be reliable that's all I lm saying.
The Korean style bow is different from the real Korean traditional bow. The real Korean traditional bow has a C shape when it is untied and has much more elasticity than the Korean style bow of the video. That is why the real Korean traditional bow called Gakgung is the the strongest bow in the world. The old Turkish moved from Far East Asia to the present location and learned the bow making skill from old Koreans. And the old Koreans were called "East Bow people".
long bows it takes more time and is heavy you tiring long bow. This is two bows same famillian bows but you kill 10 enemies per minute on long bows, you kill 18 enemies on short bows, you can also use it on horseback. it cannot be seize up when you turn left, right and left. Turks how do you think it took half of europe???
The Turkish bow is designed to be used comfortably on a horse. So it's a little small compared to others.
Both countries used the bow mainly for horseback riding. Which is probably why they look similar.
Your brain was designed for an idiot... please don’t try to sound like you have a functioning one!
@George Bowman
You dont have to insult others
Emre Veliu, So you know nothing of archery as well! Yes, I insult stupidity so you too! GFY!
@@georgebowman8820 your comment is the most idiotic of all. You must have negative value iq.
Both are very similar and wonderful bows. Very good video! Thank you for introducing Turkish bow!
thank you. turkish style is my favorite. :)
Great video Man! I like the turkish bow the best! Just seems smoother for your shooting. I cannot pull that draw weight but you got a natural canter to it. Both bows are awesome!
The results seem as expected. But they're both quite fast bows. Thanks for uploading!
thank you for watching and for the comment. i appreciate your time. :)
I think you.must try with same lbs.. And same grain for the arrow
It was a very nice comparison. Thanks to you for given your energy to these bows :) Also I think it's unfair comparison. Turkish bows not for pedestrian. It's designed to be on horseback. If the Korean bow is also designed like that then it's fair. And we must to respect the results. The Turks dont like any loosing anywhere, so please don't take offense to bad comments :)
Thanks from Turkey.
korean have 3 kinds bow composite, bamboo, and reinforced bamboo wood but the turkish are all composite some of them are protected from moisture
Modern build bows doesnt give a real result. Only bows in museums can give an actual result.
agreed. or at least ones that are made in the same manner.
Real Korean bows make almost complete circles when unstringed and are smaller.
korean bow get weaker as time goes because of its thinner limb, so it became less and less a circle when unstringed.
hmm? thickness affecting bow's loss in tension is completely unbound. ex) very thick Longbows lose their tension much quicker than composite bows including Turkish, Mongolian, & Korean bows. composite bows lose their tention much slower and are more energy efficient. downside would be that they need extra attention. If i remember it correctly there's a LOT of maintenance for Korean traditional bows. If they are well taken care of, they last a life time. there are many Chinese/Monglian/Korean history to back that up : generals/soldiers keeping a good bow for their entire life and even passing it to generations.
and the Korean bow in the video is NOT the traditonal one. they call it "Semi" traditional bow, if that was your point.
Yes there's lot of maintenance needed for composite bow like korean bow because of its thinner limb than most other composite bow, But while it got elasticity it doesnt get much tensile strength to keep the shape of its limb when unstringed in long run.
I think the best comparison would be like turkish bow and korean bow, both got the same lenght, but while turkish curve less when unstringed, it still keep its shape much longer than korean bow.
Agreed. At least Same draw weight. or the comparison may be meaningless because bow manufacturers these days only change the form factors of the bow and call them different bows, although they have almost identical manufacturing process, with often same materials.
But it will be hard to get traditional bows like that these days. So let's cheer the youtuber for the effort:)
Good demo! Thank you.
Thanks for the upload!! What I would love to see is a speed test with your Manchu Bow Yarha and the heavy 100 grams/1500+grains arrow! Judging from your videos the Yarha seemed to handle the heavy weight arrow well. I think the result of speed testing the Yarha with heavy arrow could be interesting! Best regards!!
@Christoph Haupt thanks. i'll do a video for that at some point. :)
for self taught you are pretty damn good man, you make good vids seen a couple now :D
Korean Mongolian Hun Turk bows have same design. Just materials differ a little because of location
Wonderful bows ! I like this kind of design. 🏹✔👍
Yes, but the Korean is a 60 lbs draw as opposed to the Turkish which is 50 lbs draw. Not really a contest but the Turkish did have a energy almost equal that of the Korean.
Nice video :)
Those look incredibly fun to shoot. I shoot compound, am Ojibway, and thinking I'm getting either or. Perhaps even both
Also diggin your shirt there guy.
@@cjourd6826 thanks. That was a costume I liked. ^_°
60 lbs vs 50 lbs i think u better find the same lbs,,,
i like to but i could not find the same poundage for these two bows. so i did unfair comparison at this time.
Just FYI, Korean traditional bow gives complete C or O shape when the string is detached from the bow.
This is not Turkish Bow vs Korean Bow. This is actually Alibow turkish style vs Korean style (manufacturer? ) bow "Products" comparison and test. They both not original historic bows. But good to see them both.
in this example i think the turkish 50 lbs bow is less cumbersome if you need to shoot many arrows, with less power of course but... one is 60 lbs and the other 50. I feel the true is the same kind of bow, the best solution to the same problem, a small but very powerful bow.
Jeez, you shoot well. I've only been shooting 11weeks starting with a 30# wooden bow to 35#, then 40#, to now a 45# alloy bow Mediterranean style, but really interested in trying the horse bows in higher 50#+ poundages.
thank you so much. i'm still learning as i'm going. these bows are fun to shoot. :)
iyoo1 a question I have is since many people comment on the necessity of drawing past the more conventional anchor points to almost the ear, how can you achieve a consistent shot with a "floating" anchor? Perhaps I misunderstood something. And, thanks for making the content.
thank you for taking your time to watch.
as far as i know many oriental archers don't have solid anchor point. koreans pull their string all the way back almost behind head. when they reach tip of the arrow they know they are in Mahn Jak (means full draw). other than that, details of techniques, i do not know.
i hope i had a coach but i'm doing 'trying and error' method. ^_^;
Thanks for the video. Where can I get that specific turkish bow you're using ?
thank you for watching. you can get it from alibowshop.com. turkish laminated. 50#. :)
Which do you recommend for a complete beginner. I am not big and older so leaning towards turkish. Can anyone recommend specs for me as well?
Thanks !
Try expending release…you get easy 200fps
I really don’t think there’s a huge difference between these bows other than region. They are literally the same shape with similar construction consisting of a horn for more energy.
너무 어깨가 들려있는 느낌이지만 한국의 활을 쏴주신다는 점에 감사...
짧은 조언 감사. 다른 조언 있으시면 무시면 감사하겠습니다. :)
It looks like your bow hand is a little late on the kahtra, just saying..Also the Korean bow needs the traditional large handle for really good kahtra. I have 3 and they give great bow hand control, the Koreans knew what they were doing !!
TheDave570 thank you. I'm till practicing. Also I wrapped handle and, yes, that helps a bit. Now days I practice hwal-dae-up-gi with Korean style bow. A long journey :)
The grooved arrow system has been found and developed by Turkish Khan Metehan first time in weapon history , you have to use same style bows and arrows ..
Thanks man
I want to say something about the Turkish bow, this is not actually the Turkish bow. Because there should be buffalo tendon outside the bow and buffalo horn inside.
How fast is ERROR? 😁 Cool bows! But too much weight for me for comfortable long term shooting.
turkısh bow is best best best.
🇹🇷❤️🇰🇷
1:43 they just magically appear 😎
Your draw length not consistent in korean bow test. You can see them from tip of the arrow to the arrow pass position.
thank you!!! :))))
Very comparable if the bows were the same draw weights. The Korean will be 5-10 fps faster of course but that's the fastest bow.
U so strong man😂nice
if you compare two bows both should be the same lb . we sure to expect the one which has more poundage would be more powerful since they both are asian bows.
İt is not an original Turkish bow.Search it.
That's why it say's style next to it. In the Title.
Can you do a video about khatra, ? how to do it right? thx.
Turkısh bow very good
o türk yayı değil arkadaşım, taklit olarak yapılmış sanırım, türk yayı daha hızlı ok atması için kısa yapılır ve kıvrımları dışa doğru bakar, kandırmışlar koreli kardeşimizi.
why cant you compare the same DW?
i like to but i could not find the same poundage for these two bows. so i did unfair comparison at this time.
Although it looks like you are an avid shooter. It looks like your release was a little premature and yes I hate too say sometimes a little but sloppy. This I could see when your Chrono readings were slower. Very cool for learning bad habits.
What is your draw length? It looks like your consistent with hand placement for draw but is that 28" or 30" no way for us to tell if you were doing a slight over or under draw this changing the draw weight.
Good video overall.
I have seen the Turkish bow from Ali on the web and wondered about it's performance.
hi, john. i'm only a few years in archery. turkish bow is 50 at 28, korean bow is 60 at 28. i know i'm not very consistent. it's a big hurdle i need to overcome since i did not have someone teaching me.
turkish bow from alibow is a great bow. if the user - me - can use it in full potential of the bow. :)
thanks for watching and comment. :)
You must take 60# turkish bow why you take 60# bow vs 50# bow ?
What's that left hand glove calles( what you rest the arrow on)
the korean bow seems like the Segye from alibow. Are you able to confirm?
yes, it is. it's becoming my favorite bow over turkish bow. :)
Dude, Korean bow poundage is designed at about 31 inches. Not at 28 :) so it should be considered about 4 to 6 pounds less from 60# if your full draw is 28. anyway, thanks for your vid.
Do you prefer black shadow bow
Как называется его лук на 60 IBS?
Your comparison is wrong due to different sizes and pounds
this is not Turkic bow. Turkic bow made by Horn and need to wait 1.5-2 years. and need to be inclined. And Turkic bow covered by animals tendoms and animal skin. Thats materiel gave slope
And Turkic bow can use on horse.
+rep from Turkey this is a no Turkish ( Turkic ) bow this is a just shit PVC bow...
Turkish bow need to wait for (nearly 5 years ) . yes it can wait 1.5-2 years but it can be not soo elastic :)
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Curious to what brands and your opinions on quality of build. I'm an experienced bow hunter (traditional), but I want to try a horse bow. Thanks for the help. All the detractors commenting on CZcams videos are losers.
thanks for the comment. you can get this bow at alibowshop.com. i'm just about 3 years in shooting. looking forward to learn more as i go. :)
Modern or old, no matter where the bow comes from...the result is the some if you get hit/shot by one. Weight, range etc is just "modern nit picking" and becomes silly. Nice vid tho.
Hey dude, how do i know if i twisted a bow? I have kaya firefox and when i put it on the floor the upper limb is not flat on one side, and when i flip it the bottom limb is not flat.
That’s definitely twisted limbs. Just massage the limbs slowly back to form paying attention to which limb is the crooked one by referring to the riser/handle. Do this in a moderately warm area so o not over stress the bow.
I thought that the gakgung was smaller than the mongolian bow.or is it another type?
Levy Lozano Radically, gakgung is a small archery because it is lighter and more convenient
Levy Lozano he said korean style not korean bow
First is not a Turkish Bow.
23 April 1920 is formed Turkish Nation, you mean Ottoman Bow.
Korean and Türkish Bow are same homie. Only difference is you take other Woods, Korean take Bamboo.
Tarkan Akagündüz Koreans bow draw is much longer than Turkish
How can that be construed as same bow.
Not to be an ass ,both are awesome bows,thanks.
There isn't a race as known Ottoman! They were Turks. Turk Nations exist from B.C 200 to nowadays. There is no difference between Turkey and Ottoman! So keep in your mind for yourself those dirty thoughts ...
Osmanlı'dan önce Türk'ler yay kullanmıyor muydu da Ottoman Bow diyorsun adı.İnsanlara yalan yanlış bilgi verme ayıptır. Osmanlılara gelene kadar o yay tekniği kullanan dolu Türk devleti vardı.
It is not a real Turkish bow you use. The real Turkish broadcast takes a year and a half. and its average speed is 250 fps. And the long range is on Turkish records with 847 meters in world record.
one is 60 pound bow and the other is 50 pound. no need to say 60 pounder should be faster.
turkish bows making is need 5 year dude :
ingiliççe !
Where you get that bullshit from? Just 1 or max 2 year is for drying and flexing is enough.
Why Turkish bow is more cheap lol. There should be horn covered inside area
That bow is not turkish bow , that is fake cuz the real turkish bow is not only wooden , more than 5 different material using in real turkish bow , and the worlds speedest bow is turkish bow cuz the world record broken by a turkish guy who named Tozkoparan iskender , he shoot 846 meters with real traditional turkish bow ... soo that one is fake , sorry dude ...
korean bow is the best!
It possible.Turkish bow designed for horseback archery and comfort.
korean bow is fake of turkish bow turks teached the composite bow to koreans
Im an indian, how can i get korean bows
I need a thumb ring that is 26mm and I cannot find one :(
ChrisDSX make one look it up
You could have one custom-made for you by customthumbrings.com
what is the name for the korean bow?
korean bow here is Segye bow from Alibow.
I guess I'm not understanding the purpose of this...."review " I guess you might call it ...is it a comparison or a review of two different bows or which has better khatra..the purpose is very unclear here .
you should test it real Turkish Bow such as who used at the 1300-1400 between. than you can see whats the real result. actually maybe you cant pull
It's better of you show us the target.
That is an improved form for dissemination, not a traditional style of Korean bow. HaHaHa!! Compared to traditional Korean bow, the story is different! ^^ The Korean bow is a U - shaped when released.
They're both made of fiberglass so who cares which one is faster?
they are laminated bows, he mentioned in the video
You don't know what you are talking about! Also I noticed you are using Turkish archer ring.
Your bow is not turkish bow your bow is replica turkish bow
TR
Hey iyoo1! That is so unfair, because the turks want their bow to be better.
Turkk!!
its Tatar s bow... bouth
no turkish bow
It's so funny how butt hurt the Turks are in this comparison. Relax guys they are both fiberglass replicas.
Nothing to get all worked up over the kid is not doing science or saying his country Is better than yours. He is just having a go at it a little fun with some commercial made cheap bows, So lighten up Francis.
The turks are insane when it comes to archery. If you ask a turkish person they will probably say that the turks invented everything from the thumbring to the hornbow. It’s pretty funny for sure. I mean it’s not like there were hundreds of turkic tribes or something like that, right..
It seems that most turks don’t understand this piece of history.
Yes for sure. The turkish turks got influenced by their arabian neighbours I imagine, while other turkic groups like the uighurs do have a more asiatic appearance.
Understandable, have a nice day!
As a british born Turk i can tell you 60% plus of the population in Turkey needs mental therapy. No joke.
I am not butthurt lmao, I am happy to accept loss if I do. I had conversation about the types of shields used by Turks and Europeans and I accepted that ourd were inferiour, but this test doesn't really seem to be reliable that's all I lm saying.
The Korean style bow is different from the real Korean traditional bow. The real Korean traditional bow has a C shape when it is untied and has much more elasticity than the Korean style bow of the video. That is why the real Korean traditional bow called Gakgung is the the strongest bow in the world. The old Turkish moved from Far East Asia to the present location and learned the bow making skill from old Koreans. And the old Koreans were called "East Bow people".
Its not Turkhis bow man sryy but real.
long bows it takes more time and is heavy you tiring long bow. This is two bows same famillian bows but you kill 10 enemies per minute on long bows, you kill 18 enemies on short bows, you can also use it on horseback. it cannot be seize up when you turn left, right and left. Turks how do you think it took half of europe???
Turkish VS korea
전통활이 아닌거같은데
jaeil han 개량궁임
jaeil han 한국식 활 이라네요
Ottman bow........ not Turkish