Double Weave, Double Wide
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- čas přidán 7. 10. 2021
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I was asked for some clarification on how to weave a project that is wider than the loom. It can be done! One just needs four shafts to do plain (tabby) weave, or 8 shafts to do twill. So in this video I show you on a very small sample piece, how to do double wide weaving in 2x2 twill.
And as a bonus at the end of the video I show how to weave a tube. (not a you tube) just a plain old woven tube.
Great demo Andy. This should really help those trying to learn this useful weave. Can't wait until Tempo brings out the Mac version, love the process you went thru to create the draft, so simple! Thanks!
Thank you very much for your video! It was nice and clear and made it so easy to understand the process. I’m going to have another go at this and your other subscriber was right, doing it on the table loom is good because you can see what shaft is doing what much more easily :-)
Table looms are great for double weave experiments because you can lift levers and aee what is going on. I tend warp up the other way so say 15263748. And then would do the twill the other direction by lifting the polar opposites in levers.
I love double weave especially interlacing the layers so it isnt really tubular now its just double fat like double knitting.
Only minor annoyance with double weave is you can start wanting a lot of shafts.
Of course if you have 8 shafts and your brain will handle it technically you can so 4x as wide with plain weave.
I've understood the concept of double weave but actually seeing it helps tremendously! Thank you for the wonderful demonstration! 😃
This was such a visual and clear explanation of Double Wide Double Weave! You are becoming a very good teacher.
Thank you so much for a simple, straightforward example of this. I am no longer intimidated!
Excellent explanation. Love seeing how to use tempoweave. Thank you!
You are really selling me on Tempoweave as software I should learn. Nice demo.
Wonderfully illustrated. I finally understand. Thank you so much. I really enjoy and learn so much from your videos
Thank you so much for showing us the process visually. It really cleared away a lot of misconceptions (of my own making).
wow thats so awesome cause I am trying to make some tubular and was wracking my brain on how to seam them up lol this just solves my problem what I am trying to do . Great video
Thanks 😊
Awesome! Your explanation is so claerly. Just what I needed. Thank you so much!
Awesome.
I have double woven on a rigid heddle and been lamenting my 8 shaft not being used.
I can now use the 8 shaft for doubles.
You are a Saint. ❤😇
I now have a next project.
Thank you. 😁🎉
A VERY enjoyable video.
I think that I'm going to do all my DWs on a Table Loom instead of Floor Loom, from now on. It's easier on the knees and more visual for the shaft lifting!
Super interesting and so well explained. Im gonna have to watch it 100 times to wrap my head around it :)
You have a wonderful gift for teaching weaving. Such a clear explanation and illustration of the basics of double weave. Also, I've been learning to use TempoWeave and thought using this feature would require a Phd. You explained this all so well in less than half and hour. I have a two day class in Los Angeles on double weave next week, you've help take the mystery and anxiety of going to class. Thank you very much. I always enjoy your videos. Cheers!
Then you learn faster than I did. Double weave was a mystery for me. I had to take a full week long class to wrap my brain around double weave. But that was 15 years ago. Enjoy your class.
Perfect visual, Very nice tension.
Excellent! Didn‘t understand the technic until your video! Thank you so much! Best regards from Germany
Glad it helped!
Excellent tutorial! Thank you! 🙏
Brilliant, thank you for both tempo weave and the double cloth
The more I watch, the more I learn...
Thank you for this wonderful demo.
The way you demonstrated that made it so easy to understand. Thanks for that clear explanation. I'll have to check out that functionality in Tempo Weave
Excellent explanation! Thank you!
That was a very nifty demonstration.
I am not a computer type chap, so the first part I kept FF through, but the next parts were amazing.
This video helped me on my way, thanks for the good explanation 😃
Great explanation.
Pure magic. Thank you.
Fabulous tutorial. Thankyou
Great tutorial. 🥰
This is sooo freaking cool!!
Very helpful, thank you!
Brilliant explanation. I get it!
Very good
Very nice
Hello love the technique I'm thank you 😀
Thank you!
When I was weaving my tartan, I added 10 threads onto each side of the warp to deal with the floating selvedge. (If I remember correctly) I put the odd threads on shaft 5 and the even threads on shaft 6. I then put shaft 5 going up on treadles 1/3 and 6 going up on treadles 2/4.
nice!
magic!!!
Hi, thank you very for this very helpful video. If I want to weave separately the two layers (opened on both sides) and then weave together both layers for few cm keeping tubular , how should I do? Keeping your example on a 8 shafts, Thank you very much , have a great day! Nadine
It would be good to see how you warp it for double weaving please, how to work out the sett you need. I see that on the back beam they’re all side by side and on the front, obviously stacked up. I don’t know how to achieve that! Thank you
Question is it possible to triple or 4 times the weaving width like you do for double weaving?
I notice there’s no 45 deg when you send the shuttle through the shed. Is that because it’s such a narrow piece? Thx
I have a warp waiting to go on my loom for a double width blanket. I have done one, but couldn't remember how I did it. Your video really helped!! I didn't know TempoWeave had this capability. I put my draft into TempoWeave clicked double cloth and POOF! It blew up my draft! I went back and made sure the max number of shafts was 8 and 10 treadles. Still didn't help. Dang! Back to the drawing board.
TempoWeave will double the number of shafts when you click "double cloth", so in my case I knew I wanted 8, but the I made the initial pattern for 4, and then let the program do it's magic.
@@nancymalcolm4358 That happened to me too, but I didn't show it in the video. I played with it a bit and figured out why. I bet that your default is to have 8 shafts in tempoweave, and you had set up your draft using the first four. When Tempoweave does doubleweave the first thing it seems to do is to double the number of shafts (even if not all of them are used) and then put the double weave part at the highest number of shafts in the doubled portion. So when I did this in my examples, even before i put in my twill draft, I went into "PROJECT" and changed my draft to a 4 shaft only project, then when I did hte double weave it got it correct. IMHO, this is a minor bug in tempoweave.
@@curmudgeon66 Thanks! I had it set at 8 shafts. I just set it to 4 shafts, pushed it to 8, but didn't look anything like my pattern. Think I will send Lofty Fibers an email. Thanks again! LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!
I love this video. How do you warp up the loom? Can yopu show how to do this? Can you do this with full loom width? Can you show this? Please. Can you make a vest out of the fabric we make on the loom.
Answering each of your questions in sequence:
See my previous videos on warping.
See my previous videos.
Yes.
See my previous videos.
Yes - I have done that.
Very helpful demonstration! How did you sley in the reed? 4 or 8 per dent?
Because this was thick yarn, I did it 2 per dent, one from each layer.
Thank you so much for the video. It was very clearly explained for a newbie. Can't wait to try it. Can I just ask how you changed the tie up for the tube from the one sided weave ? Didn't quite grasp that bit. Many thanks.
I went back to the tempo weave program and had it do that for me.
@@curmudgeon66 thank you. I went through it again on tempoweave and realise how you did it. Love your videos, have learnt so much from them. 😁 Thank you for taking the time to make them.
Hello
what is the name of the software you use
Really useful, trying to get my head around a double width point twill. Any advice?
Plain old 2x2 twill, as shown in this video is threaded:
1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4
and tied up:
1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 4-1,
and treadled:
1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4.
POINT twill would be threaded:
1,2,3,4,3,2,1,2,3,4,3,2, etc, etc
and tied up:
1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 4-1,
and treadled:
1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4.
So then if you converted the POINT twill to be double weave, folded on the left for double wide, the threading would be:
1,6,2,7,3,8,4,7,3,6,2,5 and repeat as needed
and the tieup would be:
1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 4-1, 1-2-3-4-7-8, 1-2-3-4-5-8, 1-2-3-4-5-6, 1-2-3-4-6-7, and repeat as needed.
and the treadling wo9uld be:
1,5,6,2,3,7,8,4 and repeat as needed
All above assumes a floor loom with treadles, not a table loom as in my video.
@@curmudgeon66 Thanks very much for that.
Loved your video. For double width double weave do you need an odd amount of ends?
You need to figure out how many ends per inch you would need if it were not double weave, for example if you were doing lets say a scarf that is 10 inches wide at 10 ends per inch it would be 100 ends in the warp. And then you figure that this will be double weave double wide, so you double the 100 and you need 200 ends, but all in the same 10 inch wide area of the loom, because you will have one layer above / below the other (with the join on one side or the other). Hope this makes sense.
I only have 4 shafts (regret!). Does that mean I could do double width but only in plain weave? Thank you
yes
Is the threading the same for tubular as it was for the version that opened on the right?
No
Andy how do you get the left (folded) side to come out even?
Practice
At 4:01 you did click on the "4" shaft, but the code did not accept the selection.
Similar issue occurs when I want to add threads by the left click in TempoWeave (in Straight Draw or Point Draw options of the quick Access Toolbar: I often must double or even triple click to place a thread. There is no such problem if I select the Free Draw on the Toolbar.)
Do you perhaps also come across with this issue? (As you just did in the tie-up selection for the shaft 4).
Nevertheless, TempoWeave is an excellent weaving program.
Your video is, as usual, a gem: very clear, instructive and helpful, and greatly appreciated!
(Cheers from Hungary)
curious and coriouser, I never even noticed, if it is a bug, then I am confident that Barry will fix it.
@@curmudgeon66 I think it is a bug. Could you perhaps tell Barry about it too? (My English communication is not so effective or good.)
Can you only do tabby on a 4 shaft or can you do a more complex design?
If doing double wide, then only plain weave on a 4 shaft loom. But on an 8 shaft, one can do twill double wide.
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So if I follow this right, it will set it up for double layer if you have a 8 shaft loom? Does the software adapts for double layer if you only have a 4 shaft loom?
It should, although I didn't try it. the software should adapt any single layer to double layer. With a 4 shaft loom, you can do two layers of "plain weave" (tabby).
@@curmudgeon66 again you are my idol! Thank you for your vidéos!
Which software is this?
tempo weave program
What loom îs this?
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