2. Preferences and Utility Functions
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- MIT 14.01 Principles of Microeconomics, Fall 2018
Instructor: Prof. Jonathan Gruber
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This video focuses on the demand curve, derived from how consumers make choices, and the supply curve, which is how firms make production decisions.
Chapters
00:00 Title slate
00:11 Lecture Start
01:13 Model Assumptions
05:54 Indifference Curves
09:23 Four Properties
13:27 Real Example ( job search )
15:28 Utility Functions
18:31 Margin Utility
24:49 Marginal Rate of Substitution
30:13 Why graph's not concave
32:37 (Q) Addictives & MRS
34:31 Price of Different Sizes of Goods
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Demand curve - how consumers make choices
Decision making - Utility maximisation. Consumer preferences - what people want and budget constraints - what they can afford.
Step 1 - Preferences - how do we model people’s taste - Unconstrained choices, money is no object, how do we think about what we want.
Preference assumptions. Models are based on simplifying assumptions. Are they roughly consistent with reality or not?
Completeness - We have preferences over any set of goods we choose from. Can’t say I don’t know how I feel about this.
Transitivity - If we prefer A to B and we prefer B to C then we prefer A to C.
Non-satiation/More is better - More is always better than less.
Graph of people’s preferences. Indifference curves. Graphical maps of preferences. Suppose parents gave money before semester. Spent on two things - buying pizza or eating cookies. 2 dimensional decision case. Consider 3 choices A. 2 pizzas and 1 cookie B. 1 pizza and 2 cookies C. 2 pizzas and 2 cookies. Assume - We are indifferent between these packages. Equally happy with all the packages. And also assume we prefer option C as more is better.
One indifference curve between A & B because those are the points among which you’re indifferent. Indifference curve represents all combinations of consumption among which you are indifferent. You are indifferent between A & B and therefore they lie on the same curve.
4 properties that you have to follow from these assumptions:
Prop 1 - Consumers prefer higher indifference curves = More is better. Package that has at least more of 1 thing than the other so you prefer it. As the curve shifts out you are happier because more is better
Prop 2 - Indifference curves are downward sloping. Comes from Principle of non-satiation.
Why does it violate the principle of non-satiation?
You cannot be Indifferent about 1 of each or 2 of each.
Prop 3 - Indifference curves never cross.
Because in B & C, B is strictly better but they’re also on the same curve as A. You’re indifferent with A for both B & C but you can’t be indifferent between B & C because B is strictly better than C. Indifference curves crossing violates transitivity.
Prop 4 - Only 1 indifference curve through every possible consumption model/ Only one indifference curve through every bundle. You can’t have 2 indifference curves in the same bundle because of Completeness. If this did happen you wouldn’t know how you felt. You may feel indifferent but you can’t say you don’t know how you feel.
Example - year op as a grad student who had to decide where he would accept the job. I am indifferent but I care about 2 things - school location and economics department quality (quality of my colleagues and the research that’s done there) One is from Princeton and the other is Santa Cruz (not as good as economics department). 3rd offer - IMF research institution in DC and had a lot of good colleague and DC is way better than Princeton. Worst quality than Princeton and worst location than Santa Cruz but it was still better in combination than these two institutions.
Utility Functions - Mathematical representation - Every individual has a stable well behaved underlying mathematical representation of your preferences which we call utility function. 2 dimension - how do we mathematically represent between pizza vs cookies. Utility function is no. of slices of pizza vs no. of cookies. U√P*C. What is Utility? It doesn’t mean anything. Its not a cardinal but an ordinal concept. Assume you can rank your choices in many dimensions. Weigh different assumptions so you can rank them when you need to choose.
Marginal utility - 1 cookie and then the value or utility of the next cookie. Marginal decisions. Once you eat an cookie, do you want the next unit/cookie/pizza? Key feature - Diminishing Marginal Utility - the more of you’ve had of a good the less you would want the next unit.
No. of cookies holding constant pizza. If you’re having 2 pizza slices and you want to say what’s my benefit from the next cookie. Left axis - violating the above we graph utility. Eg. If you have 1 cookie your utility is 1.4; square root of 2 times 1. If you have 2 cookies the utility goes up = square root of 4 which is 2. You’re happier with 2 cookies but you are less happy with the second cookie as you were with the first cookie.
The 1st cookie gave you 1.14 utility. What’s your happiness is measured in this graph of marginal utility. The next cookie’s utility is 2.059. Each additional cookie makes you less and less happy. Makes you happy as more is better but less happy as the 1st cookie. Remember you always want more cookies. You can say that the 11th will make you barf. But in economics you can give it away or save it for later, worst case you can throw it out, but you always think more is better. Utility function can never be negative, as its an ordinal concept, and is always positive as you get some benefit from the next unit.
Indifference curves are the graphical representation of what comes out of utility function. Slope of the indifference curve is called marginal rate of substitution. The rate at which you’re willing to substitute one good for another. Substitute cookies for pizza. dp÷dc = marginal rate of substitution.
I am indifferent between point A & B. Over here 1 slice of pizza = 1 cookie. Marginal rate of substitution is -2. I am ready to give 2 pizzas for 1 cookie. When we move from B to C the MRS is -½. Now I’m willing to give only 1 slice of pizza for 2 cookie, because we don’t want cookie as much due to diminishing marginally utility. MRS is always diminishing, it has to. Slope will always be falling. How MRS relates utility function; MRS=DP÷DC= -MUc÷MUp (c - cookie and p - pizza). MRS tells you how relative marginal utility evolves as you move down the indifference curve. When you start at point A, you have lots of pizza and not a lot of cookies; here your marginal utility is small. Marginal utility are negative functions of quality, the more you have it the less you want it. As you move along the indifference curve, you’re more willing to give up the good on the x-axis to get the good on the y-axis. Implies that indifference curves are convex to the origin. They’re not concave, they’re either convex or straight. It can be linear.
What would happen if indifferent curves were concave to the origin?
From point A to B leaves you indifferent so You can give 1 slice of pizza to get 1 cookie, starting to give 4 pizzas for 1 cookie. From 2 and 3 you are willing to give 2 pizzas for 1 cookie. This violates principle of MU and MRS as pizzas should be more valuable as you have less pizza now.
Addictive decisions - Smoking. Utility function shifts as you get more addictive. The next will be still be worth less. But as we’re addicted the first cigarette will be worth more and more to you. When you wake up feeling crappy the first cigarette will be good to you but the next morning you wake up feeling crappier and wanting the first cigarette more as people get habituated to certain levels. For drugs its not about diminishing MU but different underlying products used in the drug.
Example - Prices of different sizes of goods. Starbuck tall coffee for $2.25 and the next one for 70 more cents. McDonald - Small is $1.22 but for 50 more cents you can double the size. Why do they give twice as much for much less than twice as much money? Its all about diminishing MU, you’re desperate for the first soda on a hot day, but not twice as much for the next glass. Those prices reflect market’s reaction to diminishing MU. If you think about demand and supply, the demand for 1st 16 ounces is higher than the demand for the 2nd 16 ounces, but the cost to produce the drink is the same. Since the demand for the next 16 ounces doesn’t shift twice as much, you can only charge 50 cents for the next 16 ounces. Price increments get smaller because of diminishing MU. Buying in bulk from Costco is not much less than buying single units from supermarkets as the price gap between the soda example. Even though you might get thirstier later in the day for another glass of soda, they won’t let you walk in with the first cup you bought from them. Eg. Fenway small soda - $6, bigger soda - $8, refillable soda cup - $10. Can you bring the $10 refillable cup back to additional games? No.
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01:13 Model Assumptions
05:54 Indifference Curves
09:23 - - > Four Properties
13:27 - - > Real Example ( job search )
15:28 Utility Functions
18:31 - - > Margin Utility
24:49 Marginal Rate of Substitution
30:13 - - - > Why graph's not concave
32:37 - - - > (Q) Addictives & MRS
34:31 Price of Different Sizes of Goods
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Microeconomics L-2
A. Utility Curves
A.1.Assumptions
A.1.1. Completeness - You can mark preference on any item. Inversely, you cannot say you feel 'indifferent' about it.
A.1.2. Transitivity - If A preferred over B and b over C then A is preferred over C.
A.1.3. Insatiable - More is better than less.
A.2. Draw Utility curves now: Ordinal and not cardinal metric (i.e., you cannot be certain about by how much A is bigger than B but definitely rank A and B)
A.3. Properties
A.3.1. Only one utility curve for a bundle - Completeness property (i.e., preferences cannot be uncertain or non-existent).
A.3.2. Utility curves cannot cross each other - Transitivity (if crossed, A=B and A=C but A>C).
A.3.3. Utility curves are negatively slopped - Insatiability (If positively slopped, More is equally preferable to less).
A.3.4. Not concave to the origin - Violates Marginal diminishing utility (If concave, you'll be willing to substitute more goods of one type by an equal number of competitive goods when you have less of it).
B. Marginal Utility
B.1. The utility of the next unit of A relative to the amount of A you have now. Basically del(U)/del(A).
B.2. Properties:
B.2.1. Utility will increase but Marginal utility will be diminishing (Not concave to the origin).
B.2.2. Though the Marginal utility is decreasing, the value must be non-negative. (Design Utility eqn accordingly).
B.2.3. MRS (Marginal rate of substitution) = slope of the Utility curve = Marginal Utility of Item on the x-axis/Marginal Utility of item on the y-axis.
B.2.4. Explanation of 3: delta A (the number of items A willing to be exchanged) is inversely proportional to the Marginal Utility of A at the given point for a given amount of item B.
C. Other discussions:
C.1. For additive items, it's not that the Marginal utility is increasing (it's diminishing in this case too) but the Utility function shifts.
C.2. Why are price increments less than the proportional increment in the amount? - Refer Point 3 and 4 in Marginal utility.
(Will be adding notes as I progress in the course based on my understanding of the material).
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Definitions and Notes
1. Assumptions: more is always better, there are no budget constraints for this class's thought experiments.
2. Indifference curves: An indifference curve is a graph showing combination of two goods that give the consumer equal satisfaction and utility. Each point on an indifference curve indicates that a consumer is indifferent between the two and all points give him the same utility.
3. Four properties of Indifference curves:
(i) People prefer higher IC
(ii) Indifference curves never intersect.
(iii) Indifference curves are downward sloping
(iv) Only 1 I.C through every bundle
4. Preferences: In economics and other social sciences, preference is the order that a person gives to alternatives based on their relative utility, a process which results in an optimal "choice". Preferences are evaluations, they concern matters of value, typically in relation to practical reasoning.
5. Utility: Economists use the term utility to describe the pleasure or satisfaction that a consumer obtains from his or her consumption of goods and services. It is a subjective measure of pleasure or satisfaction that varies from individual to individual according to each individual's preferences
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for the diminishing marginal utility function, the partial derivative with respect to cookies is = 1/(2*sqrt(p*c))*p, so the MUF with cookies=1 is 0.7, not 1.4. same result with the first derivative with constant p=2
Ok you sound like a math guy, what happens to the Utility Function when you get hungry again, wouldn’t that affect your enjoyment or desire for another pizza or cookie? And how would that effect the formula
@@zachsimon9475 listen to the question and his explanation at 40:06
I noticed this, too, after calculating the partial derivative to get the MUF and wasn't sure if I was missing something or what ... I'm still not sure why he's not using the partial derivative of the UF to calculate the MUF.
In fact he uses not the exact derivatives, but the finite differences here. For the second cookie the utility function goes from 1.4 to 2, thus, the forward difference will be 2-1.4=0.6. And on margin utility slide he indeed has 0.59 for the second cookie. The same is true for the third one: 2.45-2=0.45, and so forth.
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It's the aggregate behaviour of indifference curve which show's the cross section of indifference curve.
Summarized by StudyGPT. you guys might find it useful
The video explains the fundamentals of economics, including supply and demand, preferences, utility functions, and budget constraints. It discusses the concept of diminishing marginal utility and how it affects decision-making and pricing.
[00:00] Jonathan Gruber discusses the demand curve and utility maximization in economics
- The demand curve comes from consumer choices and preferences
- Utility maximization involves combining consumer preferences with budget constraints
- Three preference assumptions are posed: completeness, transitivity, and more is better
[04:04] Assumptions of rational choice theory: completeness, transitivity, and nonsatiation
- Completeness means having a preference for A over B or vice versa
- Transitivity means if A is preferred over B and B is preferred over C, then A is preferred over C
- Nonsatiation means more is always better than less, even if it doesn't make you equally happy
- Indifference curves are graphical maps of preferences
[08:10] Indifference curves represent consumer preferences and have four properties: higher curves are preferred, they are downward sloping, they never cross, and violate transitivity.
- Consumers prefer higher indifference curves
- Indifference curves are downward sloping
- Indifference curves never cross, violating transitivity
[12:13] The mathematical representation of preferences is called a utility function
- Utility functions provide a stable and well-behaved representation of preferences
- They simplify complex preferences by representing them mathematically
- For example, a utility function could represent preferences for pizza and cookies
[16:20] Utility is an ordinal concept used to rank choices, with diminishing marginal utility as more of a good is consumed.
[20:26] Marginal utility decreases with each additional cookie, but more is still better. Utility function cannot be negative.
[24:31] Indifference curves represent utility function and marginal rate of substitution, which diminishes due to diminishing marginal utility.
[28:37] Diminishing marginal utility explains why we want less of a good as we have more of it
- Marginal utilities are negative functions of quantity
- As quantity of a good increases, the marginal utility decreases
- Indifference curves are convex to the origin and violate the principle of diminishing marginal utility if concave
[32:43] Diminishing marginal utility explains why prices of larger sizes of goods are cheaper than proportional to their size
- As addiction increases, the utility function shifts
- Addiction models show that cigarettes do less for you each day
- Habituation to higher levels leads to accidental overdoses
- Different products have different underlying utility
- Prices reflect market's reaction to diminishing marginal utility
[36:48] The video discusses the supply and demand model for soda pricing in stores
- The supply curve is slightly upward sloping
- Demand for larger sizes of soda does not increase proportionally
- Diminishing marginal utility and packaging efficiencies affect pricing
- Perishability of products and timeframes also impact pricing
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Great Video and for figure 2-5, y-axis should be dU/dC instead of Utility.
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Can someone please answer this question ?
We've seen that because of diminishing marginal utility, the demand curve shift less the more the quantity you want to buy. But since the spacing is less and less, and if we suppose we have an infinite demand, will it converge toward a fixed quantity ?
My mathematical intuition tells me that's the case, but my economic intuition tells me that infinite demand needs infinite supply since not every agent in the economy will be at the same position in the utility function; for any number of agent there will be at least one that's going to buy it's first item and will want more, meaning that demand will increase.
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*Assumptions*
Completeness
Transitivity
Non-satiation
9:23 Four properties of indifference curves
-Consumers prefer higher indifference curves
-Indifference curves are downward slopping (Non-satiation)
-Indifference curves never cross (Transivity)
-Only one IC through every bundle
15:01 Utility functions
Marginal utility
24:34 Marginal rate of substitution
Indifference Curves are convex to the origin
32:38 Real life example of diminishing marginal utility 🔥
on @31:31, even if it does make sense mathematically, once you gave one slice of pizza for one cookie, on the second trade, it does make sense to trade 2 slices of pizza for one cookie. I know this is theoretical, but it does not count the diabetes variable :P.
that said, wonderful course!
Correction: 23:42 I don't think a negative sign could be attached to the formular for U. It would make the marginal unilities negative.
Sir i don't know i am having ur previous lecture they are as good as these are.
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I just understood the Mrs = ∆p/∆c = -MUc/MUp , with all the math i know, it's basically the slope in partial derivative form
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Can someone answer this for me?
At 21:01, the x-axis says 1, 2, 3, 4 cookies. Shouldn't it say 1st, 2nd, 3rd.. because we are not talking about the utility of 2 combined cookies but we are talking about 2nd cookie?
yeah you are right, but for the most economics examples that involves utility (graphics, math problems, etc.) you will see 1, 2, 3..., not 1st, 2nd...
ps.: just a quick note, you said that "we are not talking about the utility of 2 combined cookies" and you are right, for this example, but its necessary to keep in mind that, even if you dont eat all the cookies, your utility will decrease if you keeping buying it. Because the joy of purchase 1 more cookie when you only have 1 is bigger than purchase 1 more cookie when you alread have 30 cookies. So, in this case, we don't have to use "1st, 2nd..", because we are talking about the combination of purchase, not about the consumption itself.
If you derive $1's worth of utility dreaming about winning the lottery then that dollar is not wasted when you don't win.
Reasonable. Next on: opportunity costs. :D
I have a question,
As an earlier comment consumer logic has change and is more sophisticated, meaning enviromental awareness.
My question is if we could have negative indifference curves,
Take blue jeans, everyone likes to wear them but in the manufacturing they use enormous amounts of water to soften the fabric and get that used look from a deep plain blue look. So let say we have blue jeans in x axis and kakhis in the y axis, now let my indiference curve have a portion on the -x axis. I have a bundle in this curve 1 blue jean and 2 kakhis, I bought one blue jean because I love how they look BUT I would not trade more blue jeans for less kakhis, in fact buying a second blue jean dimishes my utility it makes me feel gulty and that I am polluting, so there should be a point that states that I am willing to give up blue jeans for more khakis something like (-1,3) ?
If you already have one and then you decide to give up one jeans to more khaakis, then it should be (0,3) according to your example. While talking about utilities you are making a choice among 2 commodities (X, Y). from which you always try to maximize your utilities by making a choice of, how much of X and how much of Y. So, there would not be a negative utilities if you don't want one of the commodity.
Typically the preferences are defined on how many jeans and kakhis YOU HAVE. Since in this case you cannot have -1 pair of jeans, so you won't be able to obtain (-1,3). However, what you are saying is that when you have already got one pair of jeans, you will prefer less for having another pair of jeans. This can be reflected by your preference such that you prefer (1,x) over (2,x), where x represents the amount of kakhis you have and can be any positive value.
@@tzz909 That's exacly my question, I have 1 jean X kakhis (1,x) and its my birthday and I am teenager only my parents give me a present, they give a gift card from a clothes store, I dont want to own more that the jean I got but if the kakhis are very expensive compare to jeans it brings me disatisfaction to buy jeans compared to kakhis BUT I HAVE TO SPEND MY GIFT CARD.
More blue jeans = more dissatisfaction. Right ?
Then, we can say, with more blue jeans we need more khakis to compensate for that loss(we are on same indifference curve, right?) .. We can draw a positive IC.
Now, coming to your question, from (1, 2) you can go to (0, y) => no blue jeans (no initial enjoyment of blue jeans;you give that up) with necessary no of khakis to reach desired level of utility.
Now, how would you give up more blue when you are at 0?
@@atmadhisarkar1159 Hi : ), because it expresses my dis utility of wearing blue jeans, I'm in the store with my gift card trying out jeans with a froun in my face because I rather want to buy khakis; And on an aggregate level the indifference curve should express the choices of the individuals, the people that are telling their friends: Don't wear (in the present, the purchase is already made) jeans wear khakis, don't buy a car that is not at least hybrid, buy fair trade coffee ... . Is an indifference curve that expresses, I have two pair of jeans because they were given to me but I rather trash them out (negative value in the indifference curve) and wear one khakis every single day at school because they don't pollute; I drink coffee every day but I would rather know that it is fair trade ... .
For the last question, I think we are talking about different decision, scenarios which mean the indifference curve shift, so we cannot compare the marginal utility in this case
We observe in the shift of indifference curve the MRS exists hence,MU will always be there.
Question, does the MRS in an indifference curve indicate a preference within the indifference curve?
I know he went over addiction and marginial dimishing return at the end but i am curious to know what professors thoughts on marginial diminishing return and money is?..shouldn’t billionaires want less and less money as they make more but it seems like it doesn’t work that way? The more money someone has, the more they want?
..thanks a lot!!!
I didn't get the 4th property of IC - that there is only one possible ic for every consumption bundle. Can someone help me out here.
It's more or less the same as property #3: ICs don't cross, for the reasons he explains, thus you can't have more than one IC going through a single point. If there was more than one IC for a single point, then they would cross each other, and that's not allowed.