If you went into this movie spoiler free like I did then man it was such a joy and love letter to superhero movie fans. So much to praise but can we all agree the vfx for Cassandra sticking her hands through people faces will forever be the most haunting thing the MCU has ever put out..literally can’t get it out of my head…ha ha thank you I’ll be here all week folks
Wooo opinions lined up again! Im woth Roxy like this movie was literally a disney land ride for my brain. I cant understand people not liking the story and both my showings had mild reviews. I was the weirdo yelling laughing like a maniac 😂
The reason he was the worst Wolverine isn't just that he left, it was also that when he came back he slaughtered so many humans that he basically turned any humans who were not against mutants against mutants.
@@djtalkstrash Understandable. The way I figure it, eventually people gave up trying to kill or imprison Wolverine and he gave up killing people and eventually people just consider him trash that is not really dangerous as long as you don't go to crazy on him.
My rationale for why they would pull X-23 is that Paradox knew he was going to kill this universe and they preemptively dumped her in the void to prevent any possibility of resistance.
i loved the nod to the Seinfeld finale even using the same Green Day song while showing their behind the scenes/deleted scenes montage of all of the FOX movies.
DJ highlighting the meta commentary regarding deadpool being worth saving but not the fox universe/characters blew my mind! Didn't think of that which makes me love the movie more!
I am with you DJ on the current state of the MCU along with the comments on the recent Doom reveal. It does feel desperate and purely for the sake of "oh no people are leaving, do you guys like Dr. Doom? Guess who we have back! Pls come back to the theatre, pretty please !!" Decisions like that made me loose faith in the storytelling. So many things that could have been done post Endgame but instead, we get so many things that are not earned like Echo, Agatha show etc as opposed to focusing on the direct fallout from Endgame. That's why I loved Deadpool and Wolverine because they are able to have fun with the BTS of all these movie buzz stuff from Marvel and give the chance to the other Marvel characters of movies to shine without making fun of them. By this point, I would have expected that the MCU has earned the respect to not have to do the easy joke of "we are self-aware bc we make fun of these movies being comic based." Whereas D&W focuses on celebrating the Marvel B side. Cameos here are the next step of Andrew Garfield on No Way Home, taking a fan favorite interpretation the time to shine and redeem the story of the character. I personally felt much happier and joyful over the heroes assembled for this movie for the little while they had as opposed to what could be the Avengers right now in the MCU.
@@panduh_go_crazy-.-9957 I was a big sju fan in their prime Then I was a big comicpop fan until I got muted Now I'm just a lone ranger skirting the periphery of their worlds
Tbh I needed to see more of the Wolverine we did get. Like 5 mins of Wolverine before Deadpool finds him in the bar like how he ended up in that bar or even a flashback to the other X-men dying and why he’s the worst Wolverine
DJ brings up a good point with the Doom casting. RDJ is clearly not going to be the main Doom in ten years. The reactions to it (mainly people complaining about RDJ not being Romani) feel incredibly overblown. Now, that's not to say I think Doom shouldn't be played by a Romani actor. RDJ will probably be Doom for these two movies, and that's it. Still, we know absolutely nothing about Sacred Timeline Doom. I think fans were going to complain about the casting no matter what. I feel like it was always going to be a lose-lose situation. We don't really know anything about these movies other than the names and the fact that Doctor Doom will be in them.
There will always be complaints, it's the internet, but I think they would've gotten a lot less pushback with a really talented actor that's new to the MCU.
Im somewhere in the middle of both of your opinions for deadpool and wolverine. Like it was a movie that felt that it was made for me but still fell short of what i wanted. Not a lot of meat on the bone was the perfect way to describe it, but it was still fun. 7/10
15:08 "It's kind of sucked my excitement for [mcu movies]" Your excitement for the mcu is always "sucked" out for some reason or another. But if you go to the mcu movies on the first weekend, you're the same as any mcu that goes to see these mcu movies.
Really surprised at DJs comments on Deadpool referencing a Loki episode. Fine if he doesn't like it, but it wasn't that Deadpool had to tell everyone what it was from. It's a fourth wall reference to comic book editor's notes that reference events in previous issues.
It's textbook lampshading. They needed to catch the audience up on an obscure-ish plot point from Loki but they dressed it up like a joke. I get what you mean about editor's notes, but movie's are a very different medium. Imagine an editor's note in a comic that told you that you had to watch a semi-unrelated episode of TV to understand a plot point that's unfolding. It's a wild expectation.
@djtalkstrash Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if that is it completely, but it just felt more like a comic reference and possible dig at Marvel for having all this stuff you need to keep up with. I think it just doesn't bother me as much, though I do understand your point. Anyways I appreciate that you take the time to reply to our comments. Been a fan since SourceFedNerd ✌️
Cillian Murphy, Mads Mikkelsen, Christoph Waltz, Javier Bardem, and my personal favorite, Claes Bang, who was throwing out hardcore Doom sass in that 2020 DRACULA show on Netflix.
I think X-23 is the same one we saw in Logan, but that would mean that the Deadpool movies don't take place in the same universe as the other X-Men movies. Deadpool is set in present day, whereas Logan was set in 2029 and since X-23 is now a grown woman, that means she got pruned sometime in the 2030s. Plus, we see the younger versions of the X-Men briefly in that room in Deadpool 2 instead of the older versions, so that's another clue he's not in the main Foxverse timeline. Why X-23 and all the other characters were pruned isn't clear and I'll agree the whole anchor thing isn't clear either. As far as Wolverine's arc, it's more than simply abandoning his team when they needed him. He had a mental break from what happened to them and went on a massive killing spree which resulted in some innocent people dying too. It makes total sense the guilt from that and letting his team down would have him the way he is when Deadpool meets him in the bar. I don't know what else you need to be convinced.
While I understand some of DJs points, it's like he doesn't like when comic book movies operate like comic books. I think his arguments miss the mark, especially the "memba this?" aspect, as it was a minimal part of the movie.
During the opening with Wade travelling to 616, I honestly chalked it up to the Cable time machine he stole. Because in the end of DP2 he went to get rid of Ryan Reynolds before GL, and also the Origins Version of Deadpool. Which, technically wouldnt be time travel, itd be multiverse hopping, right?
IMO this felt like a deadpool sequel, an mcu movie and a fox xmen movie crammed into one. i think a combining 2 of those could have worked but all three is too much. the middle 45 minutes was my favorite- it felt like deadpool dropped into a (good) fox xmen movie-i was never more engaged then just watching jackman and emma corrin interact (shes in the very small pantheon of great live action x-villains). i wish they would have dropped the broader fox characters (and mcu tva stuff) all together and just gone w/ all xmen-give us turner and janssens together, or anya taylor joy as magik or blue and yellow suited james marsden scott, or ben foster as archangel. esp if were never seeing them again. (also this is clearly an mcu movie since theyre wasting cassandra nova as a one off when she could easily replace kang) I think it felt less like a clip show and more like those episodes where they have to get past guest stars together for a team up haha. w/ the multiverse i feel the same but from the opposite angle-i love the idea of breaking the mcu up into different areas(multiverses) so its not slavish to one overarching continuity (same issue i have w/ comics). F4 in a 60s retro future? love it, but not if it has to tie into chris evans cap or shang chi or whatever. ive always ddreamt of the xmen having their own independent universe-specifically an r rated one to delineate it from the pg13 avengers mcu (and considering the two biggest xmen stars have made billions in r rated movies i feel vindicated for this). as for rdj, D+W just became the highest grossing r rated movie ever by bringing back familiar faces audiences love. i doubt feige thinks he made the wrong decision, though its not at all what i would have done.
also im sooooooo hyped we got tatum as gambit, a casting choice ive been defending for years b/c 'what if your gambit was stupid though' IS gambit! hes a doofus, albeit a well meaning and occasionally bad ass one. ive always said the best way to do gambit in live action is like jack burton in big trouble in little china and they nailed it
Just a heads up Henry Cavill is 100% no taller than 6ft. Hugh Jackman is 6ft 2-3. Have met Cavill multiple times and we were same height every time i am a fraction over 6ft. Looks can be decieving.
I’m with you DJ I loved Deadpool 2 over DP1. It’s a more enjoyable rewatch in my opinion tho the jokes in DP1 and that highway scene hit hard. DP+W is probably my favorite DP movie idk about X-men or fox movie yet but strong film. 9.5 out of 10 wish Wolverine had alittle more character especially with x23 felt like that was short lived.
@@thoomolong yeah I thought it would be good but sadly I was wrong,only reason Deadpool worked cause it was owned by a different company.hopefully thunderbolt can be more serious.
If you went into this movie spoiler free like I did then man it was such a joy and love letter to superhero movie fans. So much to praise but can we all agree the vfx for Cassandra sticking her hands through people faces will forever be the most haunting thing the MCU has ever put out..literally can’t get it out of my head…ha ha thank you I’ll be here all week folks
Martin Scorsese watching Gambit’s monologue about ejaculation “This is cinema!”
Wooo opinions lined up again! Im woth Roxy like this movie was literally a disney land ride for my brain. I cant understand people not liking the story and both my showings had mild reviews. I was the weirdo yelling laughing like a maniac 😂
I don’t understand how someone can watch Furiosa and then watch this and say the settings look the same in quality
The reason he was the worst Wolverine isn't just that he left, it was also that when he came back he slaughtered so many humans that he basically turned any humans who were not against mutants against mutants.
And yet the bartender at the beginning is only mildly perturbed by his presence. Feels half baked imo.
@@djtalkstrash Understandable. The way I figure it, eventually people gave up trying to kill or imprison Wolverine and he gave up killing people and eventually people just consider him trash that is not really dangerous as long as you don't go to crazy on him.
Feige did a celebration dance in his office when he saw the final b.o.numbers for Deadpool-Wolverine 😂
Ooooo DJ I think Ryan is the perfect Deadpool for years to come
I totally agree with DJ. Deadpool and Wolverine is a movie made to be played on FX.
My rationale for why they would pull X-23 is that Paradox knew he was going to kill this universe and they preemptively dumped her in the void to prevent any possibility of resistance.
i loved the nod to the Seinfeld finale even using the same Green Day song while showing their behind the scenes/deleted scenes montage of all of the FOX movies.
DJ highlighting the meta commentary regarding deadpool being worth saving but not the fox universe/characters blew my mind! Didn't think of that which makes me love the movie more!
I am with you DJ on the current state of the MCU along with the comments on the recent Doom reveal. It does feel desperate and purely for the sake of "oh no people are leaving, do you guys like Dr. Doom? Guess who we have back! Pls come back to the theatre, pretty please !!"
Decisions like that made me loose faith in the storytelling. So many things that could have been done post Endgame but instead, we get so many things that are not earned like Echo, Agatha show etc as opposed to focusing on the direct fallout from Endgame.
That's why I loved Deadpool and Wolverine because they are able to have fun with the BTS of all these movie buzz stuff from Marvel and give the chance to the other Marvel characters of movies to shine without making fun of them. By this point, I would have expected that the MCU has earned the respect to not have to do the easy joke of "we are self-aware bc we make fun of these movies being comic based." Whereas D&W focuses on celebrating the Marvel B side. Cameos here are the next step of Andrew Garfield on No Way Home, taking a fan favorite interpretation the time to shine and redeem the story of the character. I personally felt much happier and joyful over the heroes assembled for this movie for the little while they had as opposed to what could be the Avengers right now in the MCU.
"Skippity-toilets." 😂
gold
59:20 This guy doesn’t like Infinity War. Nuff said. 🤷🏾♂️
To me this movie was a goodbye to the Fox universe and with that in mind I think it mostly pulled that off.
I wanna see sal and roxy
You don’t know what you want until someone gives it to you. Why haven’t I thought of this 😂
@@panduh_go_crazy-.-9957 I was a big sju fan in their prime
Then I was a big comicpop fan until I got muted
Now I'm just a lone ranger skirting the periphery of their worlds
Tbh I needed to see more of the Wolverine we did get. Like 5 mins of Wolverine before Deadpool finds him in the bar like how he ended up in that bar or even a flashback to the other X-men dying and why he’s the worst Wolverine
Why is she surprised, I think it’s safe to say he was going to hate it regardless.
he don’t like anything
Feel sorry for Roxy, guesting on a cast where the host exclusively talks about nerd culture he f***in hates for some reason
Loved this movie. Was very entertaining
Roxy you are awesome, great review!
One of my favorite things about OSA is sometimes I agree with DJ, sometimes I agree with Roxy.
For this episode Im sort of in the middle.
Something for everybody!
DJ brings up a good point with the Doom casting. RDJ is clearly not going to be the main Doom in ten years. The reactions to it (mainly people complaining about RDJ not being Romani) feel incredibly overblown. Now, that's not to say I think Doom shouldn't be played by a Romani actor. RDJ will probably be Doom for these two movies, and that's it. Still, we know absolutely nothing about Sacred Timeline Doom. I think fans were going to complain about the casting no matter what. I feel like it was always going to be a lose-lose situation. We don't really know anything about these movies other than the names and the fact that Doctor Doom will be in them.
There will always be complaints, it's the internet, but I think they would've gotten a lot less pushback with a really talented actor that's new to the MCU.
Honestly think he'll ONLY be in Doomsday and will be defeated by an even stronger Doom
Im somewhere in the middle of both of your opinions for deadpool and wolverine. Like it was a movie that felt that it was made for me but still fell short of what i wanted. Not a lot of meat on the bone was the perfect way to describe it, but it was still fun. 7/10
And I think it's somewhere in the middle of my overall mcu ranking
I realize Deadpool is just not my type of comedy.
He works for some people, which is great, but he can be a little too much for me.
I'm also in the "less is more" camp when it comes to Deadpool.
I thought Wade used Cable's time machine to travel to the MCU and he mentions he destroyed it to Paradox.
Except time travel is not the same as multiversal travel. Marvel has really conflated the two, but they're not the same thing.
15:08 "It's kind of sucked my excitement for [mcu movies]"
Your excitement for the mcu is always "sucked" out for some reason or another. But if you go to the mcu movies on the first weekend, you're the same as any mcu that goes to see these mcu movies.
I went to an early professional screening, because it's, y'know, my job.
Really surprised at DJs comments on Deadpool referencing a Loki episode. Fine if he doesn't like it, but it wasn't that Deadpool had to tell everyone what it was from. It's a fourth wall reference to comic book editor's notes that reference events in previous issues.
It's textbook lampshading. They needed to catch the audience up on an obscure-ish plot point from Loki but they dressed it up like a joke. I get what you mean about editor's notes, but movie's are a very different medium. Imagine an editor's note in a comic that told you that you had to watch a semi-unrelated episode of TV to understand a plot point that's unfolding. It's a wild expectation.
@djtalkstrash Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if that is it completely, but it just felt more like a comic reference and possible dig at Marvel for having all this stuff you need to keep up with. I think it just doesn't bother me as much, though I do understand your point.
Anyways I appreciate that you take the time to reply to our comments. Been a fan since SourceFedNerd ✌️
I think DJ missed the mark with this one, it was a really good movie and I’m not a Deadpool fan…like at all his movies were just ok to me.
DJ I hear you about DOOM.
But I'm curious to know who you think would have the gravitas to play Doom.
Cillian Murphy, Mads Mikkelsen, Christoph Waltz, Javier Bardem, and my personal favorite, Claes Bang, who was throwing out hardcore Doom sass in that 2020 DRACULA show on Netflix.
I think X-23 is the same one we saw in Logan, but that would mean that the Deadpool movies don't take place in the same universe as the other X-Men movies. Deadpool is set in present day, whereas Logan was set in 2029 and since X-23 is now a grown woman, that means she got pruned sometime in the 2030s. Plus, we see the younger versions of the X-Men briefly in that room in Deadpool 2 instead of the older versions, so that's another clue he's not in the main Foxverse timeline. Why X-23 and all the other characters were pruned isn't clear and I'll agree the whole anchor thing isn't clear either. As far as Wolverine's arc, it's more than simply abandoning his team when they needed him. He had a mental break from what happened to them and went on a massive killing spree which resulted in some innocent people dying too. It makes total sense the guilt from that and letting his team down would have him the way he is when Deadpool meets him in the bar. I don't know what else you need to be convinced.
You put way more thought into this movie than anyone making it did.
While I understand some of DJs points, it's like he doesn't like when comic book movies operate like comic books. I think his arguments miss the mark, especially the "memba this?" aspect, as it was a minimal part of the movie.
If you remove the callbacks and cameos and references this movie would only have, like, a 5 minute runtime. 😆
I loved this movie it was really awesome
During the opening with Wade travelling to 616, I honestly chalked it up to the Cable time machine he stole. Because in the end of DP2 he went to get rid of Ryan Reynolds before GL, and also the Origins Version of Deadpool. Which, technically wouldnt be time travel, itd be multiverse hopping, right?
Marvel really needs to dial in their multiverse rules, because they've built an entire saga around it and it's mostly nonsense.
@@djtalkstrash true. I also dont like that at this point they chalk up any inconsistency to "oh its the multiverse"
I really love your connection to the concept of anchor beings
IMO this felt like a deadpool sequel, an mcu movie and a fox xmen movie crammed into one. i think a combining 2 of those could have worked but all three is too much.
the middle 45 minutes was my favorite- it felt like deadpool dropped into a (good) fox xmen movie-i was never more engaged then just watching jackman and emma corrin interact (shes in the very small pantheon of great live action x-villains). i wish they would have dropped the broader fox characters (and mcu tva stuff) all together and just gone w/ all xmen-give us turner and janssens together, or anya taylor joy as magik or blue and yellow suited james marsden scott, or ben foster as archangel. esp if were never seeing them again. (also this is clearly an mcu movie since theyre wasting cassandra nova as a one off when she could easily replace kang)
I think it felt less like a clip show and more like those episodes where they have to get past guest stars together for a team up haha.
w/ the multiverse i feel the same but from the opposite angle-i love the idea of breaking the mcu up into different areas(multiverses) so its not slavish to one overarching continuity (same issue i have w/ comics). F4 in a 60s retro future? love it, but not if it has to tie into chris evans cap or shang chi or whatever. ive always ddreamt of the xmen having their own independent universe-specifically an r rated one to delineate it from the pg13 avengers mcu (and considering the two biggest xmen stars have made billions in r rated movies i feel vindicated for this).
as for rdj, D+W just became the highest grossing r rated movie ever by bringing back familiar faces audiences love. i doubt feige thinks he made the wrong decision, though its not at all what i would have done.
also im sooooooo hyped we got tatum as gambit, a casting choice ive been defending for years b/c 'what if your gambit was stupid though' IS gambit! hes a doofus, albeit a well meaning and occasionally bad ass one. ive always said the best way to do gambit in live action is like jack burton in big trouble in little china and they nailed it
Just a heads up Henry Cavill is 100% no taller than 6ft. Hugh Jackman is 6ft 2-3. Have met Cavill multiple times and we were same height every time i am a fraction over 6ft. Looks can be decieving.
All of it! Answer it ALL!
I’m with you DJ I loved Deadpool 2 over DP1. It’s a more enjoyable rewatch in my opinion tho the jokes in DP1 and that highway scene hit hard. DP+W is probably my favorite DP movie idk about X-men or fox movie yet but strong film. 9.5 out of 10 wish Wolverine had alittle more character especially with x23 felt like that was short lived.
What I mean by having more character is that dude just defaulted to saying the F word and stabbing someone
No , next is Agatha
Then 3 movies next year I'm not interested in
Woah woah woah DJ this movie looked great. I can agree that this is barely a movie but it’s Deadpool it’s a perfect Deadpool movie
Thor 1 SUCKS!!!!! Definitely the worst mcu movie Thor 2 is better than
I’ll take any Thor movie over this movie Deadpool so boring,this movie sucked
@@user-qd2cx6we5i But you made sure to watch Deadpool 3 the first weekend that it came out.
@@thoomolong yeah I thought it would be good but sadly I was wrong,only reason Deadpool worked cause it was owned by a different company.hopefully thunderbolt can be more serious.
@user-qd2cx6we5i You want Thunderbolts to be more serious...wait. Did you think Deadpool was going to be serious?
@@thoomolong yep deadpool 1 and 2 were serious movies.deadpool 3 just a short cut,nothing matters theres no stacks just how bout this isnt this funny.
DJ you sound pretentious and it makes it hard to care about your opinions.
Nobody is forcing you to care about my opinion.
Bleh roxy