Octatrack: Generative Melodies w/out MIDI

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  • čas přidán 15. 11. 2018
  • by utilizing slices as an array to store different notes of a scale, we can use LFOs to traverse the array and produce a wide variety of melodic results, with any mixture of determinism or probability we might prefer. In this tutorial we start with the simplest possible material - a single cycle waveform - and use that as our source to re-sample and create a sliced scale, which is then used as raw material for generating melodic and harmonic statements through modular and algorithmic techniques
    a notable advantage of this approach is being able to constrain resulting pitches to whatever exotic or custom scales you may desire. Also, through more careful preparation of your slices than is shown in this video's basic use-case many complex compositional and performance devices can be achieved - some of the simpler ways of approaching this were utilized in performing and composing my recent track 'Spiritual Successor' - • Spiritual Successor | ...
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Komentáře • 37

  • @koitka2037
    @koitka2037 Před 3 lety +1

    I think your videos on the octatrack are the most inspiring for me! Thank you so much!

  • @howardanderson3061
    @howardanderson3061 Před 5 lety

    Thanks again for another thoughtful and enlightenment tutorial.....

  • @ClaudeDjale
    @ClaudeDjale Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks Marco... Your tutorials make me love my octatrack so much more..

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety +1

      thanks dude! it's an amazing instrument, always learning something new about it!

  • @UberSynth
    @UberSynth Před 4 lety

    Great instructional video.

  • @simplemindedspacetrash7499

    Great video! I have been looking to do something like this and was stoked to see that you've outlined the entire process! I incorporated this technique into a generative piece that I'll be performing at a festival in early March. Thinking of doing a short video of it beforehand, if I get the time. Took the main concept of melodic slicing and applied a bunch of live resampling on subsequent tracks, so that the first track generates the melody (which I occasionally re-lock to modulate the key, or change the initial sample to provide different instrumentation)... the second track samples and slices that melody... the third one also slices the first one but has a lot more retrigs/glitchy percentage conditions... the fourth one samples the third, and puts it through a comb filter with tuned p-locks to essentially generate harmonies, aaaaaaand then there's two tracks of glitchy sliced breaks, also with conditional trigs. The main samples are all orchestral fairlight cmi samples, so it sounds like an AI trying to write a symphony.

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety

      thank you! sounds like you're making good use of your Octatrack and digging deeply into some of the more advanced techniques; I really appreciate you sharing your approach! let me know if you make that video 👍👍

  • @sommerfugl030
    @sommerfugl030 Před 5 lety

    Thinking about diving into the Octatrack soon. Hopefully it will become an essential part of our live performance setup. Your tutorials are a great demonstration of how it would feel to work with it :-)

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety +2

      thank you!! it's a main goal of mine to make my videos have as much clarity as possible and to keep them fairly focused - OT doesn't make that very easy though!! hah! :D

  • @mikeeriver5310
    @mikeeriver5310 Před 5 lety

    This is great! thanks for sharing.

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety +1

      thanks a lot! I think it's important for someone to document some of these things on video, typically these ideas are only discussed deep in bowels of threads on power-user forums like Elektronauts!

  • @the3mu606
    @the3mu606 Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for sharing this technique!

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety

      my pleasure, thanks for watching! hopefully you can use it to make some beautiful (or very ugly, if that's your thing!) music :) :)

    • @the3mu606
      @the3mu606 Před 5 lety +1

      @@maxmarco Its been going well already haha!
      It's funny, I have used sampling to create scales with slots, and I've used LFOs on slots to trigger random drum hits, but for some reason I never thought of combining those two. It works so well.

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety

      awesome! haha, yes! exactly! glad I was able to help connect the dots - it always seems so obvious in retrospect, but really it's not! for example in this vid I wish I had thought to demo assigning the LFO parameters and starting slice to the crossfader to get hands-on with the melodies - maybe that idea will be obvious to some people but certainly not to all

  • @Unifono2012
    @Unifono2012 Před 5 lety +1

    great tutorials.

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety

      thank you! this one took a few tries to get footage I was willing to edit! 😂

  • @station2station544
    @station2station544 Před 3 lety +4

    1:00 you're not lazy if you figured out using the Octatrack.

    • @porl3004
      @porl3004 Před 3 lety

      Started out with mine three weeks ago, in a few months if I can make a tune-I want a medal

  • @theresonator01
    @theresonator01 Před 3 lety

    Damn you set me back a 1000$ now I want one

  • @dickheadrecs
    @dickheadrecs Před 5 lety

    killer tip

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety

      thank you! at least one person didn't think so :D

  • @256k_
    @256k_ Před 5 lety

    Thats funny, last night i was messing around after reading about the MEGABREAK OF DOOM technique and i came to the same idea! But i created my sample chain on ableton using a the scale plugin then bounced it to audio and added it to my OT. I also made a scene control the slice point then i placed a bunch of trigs in my sequence and using the scene xfader i could control and improvise the melody without having to worry about being off scale! It yielded such a good result! Im planning on creating a library of different sounds in a bunch of scales and using them as my composition tools since i cant play keys for the life of me!
    Will probably share it as well once im done with it!

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety +1

      the real magic is definitely in the preparation! perhaps you have already done this, but also consider making slices of single-cycle waveform chains instead of one-shots (as I did in this video where I use my typical quick-and-dirty approach)

    • @256k_
      @256k_ Před 5 lety +1

      max marco haven’t tried it last night (only did one shot of a stock ableton bass plug in) but yeah will definitely try that too 🙂

  • @curtainsinmotion
    @curtainsinmotion Před 5 lety +1

    Awesome tutorial! Noob here: Why exactly do you change the reverb from mix to send?

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety +5

      thanks!! a 'send' style of reverb is usually what I'm looking for in most cases like these, where the entirety of the dry signal is always preserved and a reverberated version of that signal is added on top. So I will only set it to 'mix' if I want to remove some or all of the dry signal

  • @grandmasterjo1
    @grandmasterjo1 Před 5 lety +1

    Clever !!!
    You bring out the best from the beast. The trickery and devilry amazing.
    Thank you for inspiring so many.
    I think you should come out with a book. “ Occultism in the Octa” 😜😜 since the results are almost angelic from a mere satanic saw 😁.

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety +1

      thank you! hahahah, a thick tome of Octamagic! I re-watched a bit of this video and now I kind of want to re-do it using slices trig mode for increased clarity.... don't know why I didn't think of that... oh well, it's a good technique that's worth re-visiting at some point anyway :D

  • @alyeska4226
    @alyeska4226 Před 5 lety

    You are like a segment of Reading Rainbow

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety +1

      hah! first time I've heard that comparison - Bob Ross is a more frequent one

  • @shatteredsquare
    @shatteredsquare Před rokem

    max come back

  • @wax83
    @wax83 Před 5 lety

    octaves are boring imo.. great video nevertheless!

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety +1

      thank you! octaves are just the easiest 'musical' transposition to get out of a square LFO for demonstration purposes - I could have set it to a depth of like 11 or something for a little while but that wouldn't have been very harmonious to listen to, especially with the delay I put on it, hahaha

    • @wax83
      @wax83 Před 5 lety +1

      @@maxmarco on that note theres another quite common technique to achive similar results in a more "musically pleasing" fashion which is to sample a whole scale (a pentatonic for example) note by note and then slice up the scale. but I think mentioned something like that in the video..

    • @maxmarco
      @maxmarco  Před 5 lety +2

      in this video I start off by slicing a minor scale I create through re-sampling

  • @WalkingHeadPro
    @WalkingHeadPro Před rokem

    where is the video he mentioned 10 seconds in?