BreadBoard Ends: The Easy Way
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
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Before we get to talking breadboard ends, You may be wondering what I’ve been up to lately in the shop?
Well, if you missed it, go check out my Garage storage solution video that was posted two weeks ago.
If you are looking to maximize space in a small shop, that may be helpful to you
I’ve also been working on this X style farmhouse table for a while now
The client chose Cedar for this table and we’ve had a lot of issue sourcing it in my location
I was finally able to get what I needed to keep the project moving forward
Up to this point, I’ve joined the table top together and here I’m constructing the legs
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Let’s talk about the bread board end installation
Adding a breadboard end may seem like a simple enough task and it can be, as long as you understand how the wood can potentially move
Let’s define the pieces first so that you can follow the process easier.
We have the table side and the breadboard side
The table side mortises are cut with the Festool domino and they are cut so the dominos fit snuggly
For the breadboard side the middle 2 mortises are cut to fit snug and the rest of the outside mortises are cut to allow the fixed dominos on the table side to move side to side
All of the table side mortises receive glue. The two center mortises on the breadboard side will also receive glue.
Many have found it helpful to label each side with loose vs. tight and glue vs. no glue
As a side note i was a little concerned by the short dominos but either way it was this or purchase the domino XL and longer dominos so I went with the longest i had and tested with my body weight after the fact. I don’t anyone will eat a plate over 160 pounds
The point to this technique is that the wood movement will occur from the inside out so those two center dominos will not be affected by movement
To help add stability to the breadboard I’ll add a dowel into the dominos on the breadboard side
I’ve drilled the holes using a bit just ever so slightly larger so there is some space down inside the domino within the breadboard
I only apply glue to the top portion of the dowel
The bottom portion will insert below the breadboard and into the domino where it can move freely without glue
Comment below if you have any questions.
Before folks comment about spacing for the hole in the domino, yes, the domino will flex and move and this is where I decided to apply my risk
If you feel more comfortable making a larger hole and applying your risk towards the lack of bread board stability go ahead and pull your breadboard back off prior to adding glue and enlarge the hole in the domino
With that the breadboards were attached!
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Another Breadboard Ends video, because it's never the end of the Breadboard Ends.
Beautiful wood color!
Thanks, yes, Cedar is amazing!
My only change would be to offset the holes in the domino slightly from the ones on the cedar. That way the dowel pulls the breakdboard towards the table top. That's how it's done traditionally to account for the lack of glue.
Thanks for the suggestion! Good stuff!
A proper breadboard end really needs a haunch on the table end for proper stability.
That is one method. The name/method has evolved with things like the domino. I’ve seen many with and without the full table haunch which is a type tenon. A domino is also a tenon. Thanks for watching!
Looks like a festool is another need for my shop..nice video 👍👍👍👍
Thanks! Yes, the domino comes in very handy. I may just add the XL in the near future. Might have gone with that one instead if I could do it again. Thanks for watching!
Absolutely beautiful wood.
Yes! I enjoy working with it! Thanks for watching!
I was hoping for a shot of the finished product at the end, but definitely informative. Nicely done.
Thanks!
Wow thats so cool bro. Thank you for blending tips.
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
NIce work! Does the starbond filler treatment leave stains on the surrounding wood?
I’ve not noticed any stains on projects I’ve done 👍🏼
I just wanted to let you no that your videos and wood work really inspire me and get me off the couch in my wood shop making projects. Love your channel and you really have a talent and I enjoy your approach to wood working i have learned a lot from you and got a ton of tips and tricks that I never would have thought of. I build some amazing stuff but I am just not on your level. This year I have made it a goal to buy one new wood working tool each month. So far I’m crunching my goal.
New tools this year so far
✅ Ryobi 9” band saw - love this thing it’s one tool you did not know you need until you have it and I can’t live without it now.
✅ Table saw ridged 10”
✅ ryobi 7 1/4 sliding miter saw
✅ benchtop router table 1 3/4hp
✅ wen air filtration system 3 speed. This is a must have for dust control
✅ dewalt saw horses
Also a bunch of hands tools that I see you use
I don’t have a big budget but I’m quickly building up the right tools to replicate some of your builds in your videos. I try to purchase quality tools rather then the cheap stuff they sell at harbor freight. I no ryobi is a lower line but it’s what I can afford right now an I have have some quality results. I want to make a video of my new wood shop I built it’s 20 foot by 13 foot and show you what I’m working with. I have spent 4 months building my wood shop I don’t feel it will ever be finished but it’s really nice to have it’s my first wood shop and I’m 47 years old and I’m so excited to have it and have someone like you teach me and inspire me so much.
Appreciate the comment. We are all on different levels and I’ve not been building for that long in the grand scheme. I have such a long way to go but I’m glad you are inspired by what I’m sharing, that makes it worth it. My goal with this channel is to help folks smile and break from the stresses of life and build something! Tools don’t matter much, you’ll eventually get what you can when you can. I still have the crappiest table saw on the planet right now because i invested first in a good planer and jointer.
Definitely show us your shop sometime, would love to see it. Sounds like a fun project! Someday i’ll build out a bigger shop but I really love mine as it sits! Thanks for watching and don’t forget to show us that shop!
That wood is gorgeous.... Will it fade or keep that color?
Thanks! I put poly finish on it so it darkened some and the color results depend on how dry it is. Fully dry, it tends to brown some, not as gorgeous dry.
How’s the table holding up? I’m about to make a breadboard with the smaller domino machine. This video gave me hope lol
Love this comment. Was a commissioned piece. 😁 Seems fine so far. Yeah I took a risk with the shorter dominos but i think it’s gonna be ok. What species are you using?
@@WorkingTimbersCo It's 8/4 white oak. I could always put 2 dominos per board? The are 9" wide.
@@jackwagonww That white oak sounds nice! Yeah, more dominos I don't think would hurt and the outside boards. Would love to see the finished product!
It may be the easy way, but it isn't a breadboard end. I think once you deviate substantially from a joint it no longer is that joint.
Such as a mortise and tenon to a floating tenon to a a tight row of dowels. A tight row of dowels is not a mortise and tenon joint. A row of floating tenons is not a breadboard end.
Depends on the person too. If a client calls it a breadboard end table unaware of the methods to create a breadboard, will they call it something else? Likely not. Thanks for the feedback.
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In this case there is no other name to call it. In this case a client is expecting the skilled craftsman to know what is meant and is able to carry it out. A board glued across the end of a table is not a breadboard end. It has no name as it will fail so no one has bothered to give it a name. Are you saying that this meets the clients' requirements?
Just because a client thinks a finger joint is dovetail doesn't make it one. Even worse is when a client asked you to produce finger joint drawers and meant dovetail. They have called it something else, did it matter? Is it likely? Yes, since they are not the woodworker.
To take this naming requirement a step further. If a client asked for finger joints would dowels be the equivalent, especially if they did not know what a finger joint was?
Well you have your work cut out for you then. Start making a list of woodworkers that have done it this way as you will probably need to inform them as well. Who invented the breadboard end? Does the name breadboard end include the method? No. Does the name finger joint include the method, yes, does the name dovetail joint include the method? Yes. Your reasoning is a straw man. My client is plenty happy with their table and it has not failed at all. No joint is perfect, sorry to break it to you.
@@WorkingTimbersCo I fail to see what the mood of your client has to do with a woodworking joint.
A breadboard *joint* also known as a breadboard _end_ is specifically designed to help prevent a tabletop from warping. It is built in a specific way, just as any woodworking joint is. If one was to assume, that simply slapping a board across the end grain could be called a breadboard end then this would be (properly) called a *butt joint* and would be by far, the easiest way to build a _breadboard end_ But it wouldn't be a breadboard end now, would it?
I bet that you will never build one this way.
How many woodworkers have you commented on so far about their domino breadboard end tables? Curious how far you’ve gotten in the last few hours. Don’t forget Marc Spagnuolo and John Malecki They did one with dominoes and call it a breadboard too. Comment back once you are done. We have to set the whole community straight on this one.