DCS World - How to use Meta Quest 2 VR headset in DCS. Plus my VR settings for SMOOTH performance
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- In this video I go over how to connect Meta Quest 2 headset to DCS via link cable. To include my VR settings, DCS settings and NVIDIA settings. I'll take you into the F/A-18 cockpit and demonstrate how the Quest 2 controllers work inside DCS and how to push buttons, turn knobs and flip switches.
All questions and comments are welcome.
Time Stamp:
0:00 Open
0:20 Quest 2 record button
0:45 Open Oculus app
1:35 Launch desktop mode in Oculus app
1:45 Oculus Tray Tool settings
4:00 Quest 2 settings
6:00 DCS launch from Oculus app
11:10 How the controllers work inside the cockpit
17:10 NVIDIA settings
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I really appreciate how you repeat on your comfort level. Because the visuals in DCS World with VR is what it is. There is no near reality or magic bullet for this. Even costly graphic card struggle. Your comfort level is key in DCS World with VR!
Absolutely great presentation this was exactly what I was looking for thank-you so much
Thanks Jake. Just what I was looking for!
Great, let me know how it worked for you. I'm always eager to hear peoples stories and wins.
TY!!!! Took me ages to figure out that the reason my buttons werent working was it was a low fidelity plane ( Flaming Cliffs ) so the internal buttons dont work. Guess im buying that F-16 when im paid lol
Hi, I also the Quest 2.
I upgrated my config from the RTX2070 to the new RTX 4080 SUPER => it change totally my life! No need anymore to try the differents settings to get the best perf/quality ! You just have to set all DCS settings to max and you are good :) (and set the Quest Link tool to default or better if you want => it's perfect)
very informative... currently Im using G2 and thinking to try Quest 3 since Microsoft will not support VR on the next upgrade...
Well done mate.
Thank you! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Well done... My settings are basically identical to yours... Never tried rolling the graphics density down in Oculus app all the way and I'll have to try the Q2 controllers with the settings way down to see how they respond... The last time I tried them it was very laggy.. especially in high fidelity modules such as the AH-64, it was not instantaneous response so I went back to joystick and game pad.
It took me forever to figure out that the resolution and pixel density were the main drivers of smooth performance.
Best cost effective setting I've seen.. Good job.. Also.. How accurate is the hand control on the joystick?
Thanks for the kind words. Here is a video I produced on the accuracy test czcams.com/video/kiMnZypn9I8/video.htmlsi=XXt8ky-ESSS2Dttj
Thanks.
probably do something slightly different but thank you for the info
Thanks for the great tips, Jake. Maybe you can help me with a more basic problem. My Oculus freezes when I get to the DCS loading screen. I get audio through the headset, and the sim is working fine on my monitor, but the headset won't go past the DCS loading screen. Any tips are GREATLY appreciated!!!!
Hmm, I haven't had that problem however, in past weeks my headset would crash and drop out of DCS. I was able to relaunch Oculus and pick up right where I left DCS. My problem was my cable. I ordered a new one, shorter this time (10') and I made sure it was USB-C 3.2 and it fixed the problem. Have you always had this problem?
Hello one question I play pc/vr and yesterday I had an idea is it possible to put better resolution in your dominant eye and lower one in your non dominant, I think it would work because most of what you see comes from the dominant eye, so lowering the non dominant eye quality would be pretty much unnoticeable but it would leave more pc power for better resolution for the other eye
Now that is thinking outside the box, I love it! I'm no expert on VR headsets but I have never heard that to be an option
After playing on potatoe mode with my r5 3600 32 gb ram / 1080ti in vr, i upgraded to a 3080ti/5800x3d and 64 gb ram. . . Running the game off a sabrent gen 3 nvme. And i get potatoe mode, with better textures sometimes. But nore likely to crash because i push the limits too much lmao.
Just tried playing on Quest 3. Having trouble with controllers functioning properly. I can grab the throttle and stick, but not able to flick switches, push buttons, turn knobs, etc... any tips?
What aircraft are you trying to use it with? I doesn't work on all the aircraft. Also, be sure to have the "controllers" checked as on under the VR tab in DCS
Can you suggest other planes also which can be flown with Quest 2 controllers?
Or does this works with every planes?
The Huey, Apache, f18, a10, p51, hind, f5, there may be others, what I do, I get the trial version to see if it works before I purchase it. I use the beta version of DCS
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 thanks a lot I'll give it a try
Just trying to figure out how to use this type of setup for the f16… would probably need to mount hat switches instead of just single press switches.
Hi, I have dabbled a bit with the F16, luckily it is VR controller compatible however, the side stick layout didn't work for my rig. I gave up on it and stuck to more traditional based aircraft so I never got around to setting up key bindings. I did consider trying a XBox style game controller at one point. Let me know how it turns out for you. I'm very interested to see how others use this VR set up
But how do you manipulate hat switches ?
Maybe an Xbox controller
Dude. I am getting the 2 and now i think youbafe going to make me rethink all of the equipment [hotas] i bought
lol there are a few aircraft that don’t support my type of setup. There really is no use for a HOTAS but you will need something to support your controllers in. Watch my other videos in this same playlist for that info.
Good suggestion, when low fps , which is on the ground all the time or flying low, turn off msaa, maybe for now on! I have less trouble with msfs2020, and it used live gps data, so maybe its not so much internet as to the game not running right. I have been playing since Lomac, then FC 2.0, then back to DCS in 2017, it always was a resource hog. Anyone using modded drivers on gpu?
Jake, do you have anything for a DCS noob on Quest 3? Thanks
I’m sorry I don’t but it’s a META product so I would imagine this would still work then tweak it up
How do you control TDC and MFD selector - i managed to put every control i need on the controlers except MFD, TDC and the Comm menu...
I use USB devices www.tiktok.com/@jakesvrfightclubnetwork/video/7325583075918875934?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7310676993604191790
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 oh wow that’s a smart solution 👍
Are you able to use the thumb stick on the oculus controller and choose its function by pressing one of the three usb keys? I’ve tried to sort out how to map functions to it. And cannot. Any advice there ?
@@Christopherbeckwith Well, I use the 3 (4 button now) mini USB devices because once the palm trigger is engaged the buttons on the controller no longer work. If you un-engage the palm trigger the controller buttons work again. For my custom made controller mounts I have to engage the palm grip to grab the joystick and throttle or collective and keep it engaged. DId that make any sense to you? lol
@@Christopherbeckwith nah that doesnt work
Hey matey. I can pick up a quest 2 for £70 which is not a lot of money. There is a lot out there saying the Quest 3 is better, but for someone with no VR experience, do you think it is worth getting the Quest 2 and saving a ton of money on a Quest 3?
Hi, yes, I still run the Quest 2, its perfect and if you're new to Vr it will do just fine.
How do you charge auest 2 shile linked with cable, my battery plumits while playing pc.
Hmm, if you are using a cable, you may need a different type. Here is what I use. It charges the battery just fine. I can fly for hours without any problem.
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@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 thanks!
I'm having a problem when I enable VR headsets in DCS settings and click OK, the game restarts and brings up the login page as usual, but then after logging in and the small popup, DCS disappears and doesn't actually start, then does then every time I try to open it, then I have to reset my options through corrupting a settings file so that it starts again, I don't think its a problem with my VR but I'm fairly sure its a problem with DCS itself, I just have no clue what it is, any ideas?
Hi currently DCS and Oculus app are having problems where DCS crashes and doesn't open. Look up this FB page. There are a lot of post there on how to do a fix around till they get it corrected. Word is, there is an update on April 3rd that will fix it. (DCS and Oculus) facebook.com/groups/1893278417412009/
How can i deactivate the monitor Windows to save gpu resources?
I dont think you can deactivate it in DCS however, you can reduce the size in DCS under the the system tab
But hey thanks for the advice friend ive been a struglin with kt as of late one day its perfect next its enough to make me wanna wing the damn thing across the room lol thanks guy hope to see you in the sky well you know imaginary ish skies lolhave fun bro
Whenever I try to open DCS in VR, my 3D background doesn't look like yours, I still only see a white grid around me. Also, when I start a training lesson my whole screen goes black but I don't know why. Please help.
Hmm, if you are referring to the Oculus grid, if its just a white grid, probably means that you have nothing else open inside the app, that's not a bad thing. From there you can go to your desktop to launch DCS or just launch it right from your real desktop. As to the blank screen in DCS....I have no idea why that might happen, curious..does DCS work in other missions / game play?
Many thanks for this as I have similar set up like you which is 3070 with quest 2, albeit Ryzen 7 with 32 GB ram only
Thanks, let us know how it works for you
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 Hi sorry for the late reply, so no doubt this is wonderful settings as my DCS experience improved (a lot), unfortunately I had to set the quest render resolution (the "golden ticket") to be default which is 1.0 since having 0.6 really blurs out the scenery background as well. As for the tray tool, having 0.80 FoV *really* affects my peripheral vision and to be honest, I'm kinda sad about it considering the quest FoV is already quite narrow by default :( But maybe it's just me and I needed to get used to it, who knows. Any suggestion or opinion towards my experience? I would love to hear from y'all
Unfortunately in VR it’s tough getting crystal clear vision
@@snwilliam6886 Get a curved monitor and turn on better graphics. I know it sucks, but they do have a lot of DCS world videos now on V.R, setting, just search gpu 3070. They also might have modded drivers for your card, they did on radeon cards.
@@CatabductionsAnoym wait, so monitor affects vr as well?
quest 2 res at 0.6 gives a smooth vr experience but i find the screen just too blurred - esp. for modules with mfd's, and spotting targets is too difficult. What helped my system most (RTX 4070 card) was using the DLSS and DLAA.
@@alheeley yes, VR for me is not perfect on my gaming laptop but it’s smooth and flyable. I’m hoping to get a great gaming PC this year.
What about DLSS, you don't activate DLSS for playing VR? I will try to start VR with Meta QUest 3
I’m sure it’s different on everyone’s pc, mine works better without it
why does it detect the headseat as a mouse and the quest 3 pad doesn't work at all? How can I change this. I play via virtual desktop and open xr.
I'm sorry, I don't think I can help. I use the Quest 2 and Oculus Tray Tool. Post your question on FB DCS groups. There is a lot of good info there
Mine be laggin do you be using the cable to the computer or is it just all the setting in still confused
Or is maybe the computer lol
@@user-kt6il1ko8y I use the USB - C cable
hello! Inspired by your video, I tried playing DCS with Quest 2, but I ran into a major problem. The laser pointer should go out from the fingertip, but there is a problem where the laser pointer goes out vertically below the hand. If you know a solution and can let me know, I would really appreciate it.
@@jenniferw.3800 yes that’s a bug in the latest update. Download the MT version and stick to the same settings in my video. The controllers work fine in the MT version of DCS
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 Thank you for your quick reply! I was worried I wouldn't be able to play forever. Let’s try it right away!
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 I'm sorry for bothering you with questions. I'm playing on STEAM, and I'd like to know if the MT version you mentioned is the same as the MT preview.
@@jenniferw.3800 I'm not really sure how steam works however, you do not need steam to fly DCS. Download the straight DCS version
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 thank you!
I need some help and getting my game to run like that im running i9 9900k with rtx 4070ti 64mb ram and guest 3 and when I get into the game the graphics is not nearly this good any help ill appreciate 👍
HI, if you start with these settings then adjust your resolution on your headset or the pixels in DCS up, it should give you a good smooth flight. Graphics may never be crystal clear in VR. I shoot for a smooth flight
@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 hi thanks for your respond when you say graphic may never be crystal clear on VR makes me wonder if this video that you unload is what you see true your VR headset I ask thanks again 👍
@@cohibakid2 Great question, the headset does capture video a little bit clearer than what I see in the headset. I've been kicking around the idea of upgrading to the Quest 3 in hopes that it will give me a clearer picture
@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 thank you i really appreciate you respond 👍
How do you lanch DCS from oculus app???
Start by launching the Oculus app. click on the "desktop" button on the Oculus menu bar. This will take you to your desktop. Here you simply click on your DCS shortcut, at this point it will open the normal DCS landing page in VR and you are off to flying.
why use the oculus app over virtual desktop given how much processing power the app draws over VD?
I haven’t looked into that. I feel like the tweaking process is so frustrating I hate to start something new. Thanks, I’ll look into it
plus i get absolutely crisp imagery with VD, using a quest 2 on a gaming laptop with a 3070. I think that you could get much better resolution and performance getting out of the oculus app
I’ll look into it next week, thanks for sharing
How do I enable electrical power
Hi, I'm not sure what you mean, electric power to the headset or the aircraft? If you mean power to the headset, I use a C 3 to C3 cable
When I open dcs, I stay in the vr environment while having dcs open on that small window rather than all around. How can I fix this? Thanks.
I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Can you share a video? Email to jakesvrfightclub@hotmail.com
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718I’m at work I’ll do so when I get home. But I mean for instance at 5:57 you’re in the vr environment while on your desktop. Then when you open dcs you go fully into it. When I open dcs it just fills up that desktop screen rather then make dcs my whole vr. If that makes sense lol
@@rishiarora1586 got it, yes it does make sense. I do not recall ever having to set that up, it just naturally goes to full VR. Are yo using the Oculus app?
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 yes
I got quest 3 but I am unable to see VR mode cockpit where I am wrong please help
hmm, I have never used the Quest 3 but I can not imagine not being able to see the cockpit. What exactly is happening?
Graphics seems bad is it limited to the VR or ur gpu please healp because im thinking of buying that thing soon. Thanx
I can only speak of the Quest 2 but I do not think it’s possible to get crystal clear graphics in VR. I aim for smooth flight then try to push the graphics up
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 Indeed but would you share ur pc specs for that period you recorded if you don’t mind
My laptop specs are in the detail section of the video
@@vedadmehmedovic2083 He's using a hot laptop for DCS, it's begging for air and and a bigger engine(j.k.)! I get plenty bad frame s in DCS myself, but only have a 6600 gpu on desktop, not even using V.R. but track i.r. instead. The recent updates helped some, but DCS uses whatever you throw at the ....! They were supposed to combine multi-threading, but you still have to use M.T. shortcut for starting now.
Hi. I have a problem with my quest 2. After starting the game, only the mouse and keyboard work. The controllers from meta quest 2 do not work. I have everything set in the options as you do. They are not even in the main game menu. Do you have any idea what's going on? ??
Hi, I can understand the controllers not being present when you first land on the main DCS page. Once you "enable" them in the VR tab they should show up. Do the controllers work in the Oculus app?
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 Yes the controllers is good. I cant use IT in main menu . I Read on forum steam someone tell me the most Planes dosnt work in this controllers quest 2. I play first time su25 .
@@mariox31xxx97 Correct! Some aircraft allow you to use the controllers some do not. The F/A 18, F-16, F-5, P-51, UH-1 Huey, Apache, Mi-8 and OH-58 work for me. I have not tested all the aircraft, what I do, is download the trial version to see if its compatible with the controllers.
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 Ok thanks. I will try to install another version of the game.
Is there hand tracking?
I’m not sure, I’ve only tried the controllers
Please HELP when i go the start menu my controller pointer is coming out the bottom of my hand and when i go to fly a plane i have to flip my hand to grip the joystick. Please and thank you.
Yep that happened to me too when I fly the open beta version. It works fine in the MT version
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 I downloaded the dcs world steam edition and my vr hands in dcs were going to the side how do i fix this problem.
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 how can i play the mt version?
@@SLM.VR71 in the Eagle Dynamics folder there is a called bin-MT. In that folder there is a MT.exe, run that one. I still have both versions of DCS so I’m not sure what a recent DCS install looks like
@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 its okay i looked up on youtube how to play mt version and it works. Thank you so much
Do all aircraft in DCS support oculus hand controllers?
no, what I do is get the trial version then test the controllers in it so as to not waste money on something I can not fly. What aircraft are you interested in flying?
After looking at the minimum requirements to run DCS (I am also using a laptop) I don't think i can do it. I do have 32gb of ram, but my 2.5ghz processor is below the 3ghz specified in the game requirements.
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@@elliotcurrie7143 darn
My problem was actually getting in the game it was only showing me the desktop version i wasn't actually in the game
Did you get in? Tell me what you are seeing
I have a problem when i go to desktop my screen goes black, i can hear the music of dcs but it's all black, how can i solve this thing?
You are probably missing an app that talks to your Oculus desktop feature. Its recently happened to me too. What I do now is launch the Oculus app then launch DCS directly from my laptop.
I tried but even from starting DCS from the pc i only see black, even if i click desktop on the oculus the screen is all black, i don't know what to do
@@IDontKnow__147 did this problem start today?
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 Yes, i mean it's my first time i got an oculus 2 4 days ago, i'm not very good.
I'm having problems today as well, since the new update.
Got a 3070 and used his settings and the game can barely Evan load it gives me a massive headache literally
Hi, I'm not a computer expert so I can't help in that regard. What is you PC setup? Maybe someone here can offer advice.
I was, wow, this must be a shit blurry mess until I saw that you use a 3070 Laptop. Yeah, you have no power to crank up the resolution.
the good part it that you have a mobile setup, you can bring laptop anywhere
It’s actually my work laptop. I’ll get a hard core PC this year, of course I’m open to a sponsorship
My oculus quest 2 hands dont work in the game, just headset not controllers
DId you select the controller tab in the "options" section nder VR?
if you mean use hand controllers then Yes I have it activated
@@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 it worked on rift s but not on quest 2
@@flamosgaming5175 and still not working?
@jakesvrfightclubnetwork3718 still doesn't, can my hotas interfere with controllers?
*Stop using Oculus Tray Tools* that shit hasn't been updated in like 2 years. Just use Oculus Debut Tool, its literally installed when you install the Oculus software.
All you are doing by increasing PD vs setting it in the Oculus app is multiplying the final requested render from DCS. with PD 1.2 you are actually scaling your original 2432 x 1216 by basically~ 144%, IIRC this should be equivalent to 2918 x 1460 (ish)
You could run a PD of 1.0 and the above resolution and get the same... You're final total output is 4,260,280 pixels.
Not sure if it's an American thing, but explaining everthing 3 times and dumbing it down so much is really not needed.
E surprised how many idiots there is in this world
Oh shut up
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