Exclusive Interview: Tammy Woods, Mike Bickle's Youngest Victim Speaks Out, She was 14!
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- Today we have an exclusive interview with Mike Bickle's youngest victim, Tammy Woods. Trigger warning as this episode contains specific information about Clergy Sexual Abuse.
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I’m wondering right off the bat why the wife wasn’t setting up the babysitting of her children? My husband would never be meeting with and interviewing a teenage girl as a babysitter without my presence. The look of impropriety even if it was innocent would be enough. Why did Tammy’s father trust this man (pastor or not) alone with his minor daughter? Was it his charisma? All this “man of God” talk is disturbing. So this overrode her father’s instinct to see this as strange? Just wow. Failure on every level. She was a child.
Exactly.
Mike Bickle is a master manipulator. Which is shown by his wife covering for him and not leaving him. What sickness and perversion must be in the Bickle household.
It still happens! We totally let our guards down and completely trust people that we believe love God and do things that we see as things only people who fully love God would do. Like, we think, why would satan bash himself, or stand up against wickedness, or stand up for Jesus even in the midst of hatred and persecution? A man who does these things must be 150% sold out for God, right?? That's what we think and so we fully trust these types of leaders.
But satan is clever and disguises himself as an angel of light and his servants as servants of righteousness (2 cor 11). So they do a really really good job of "standing for Jesus and righteousness" to deceive God's people. So that even when accusations come up or the discerning of their fruit, God's people would dismiss it.
The way forward is to remember that even sold out people have temptations and can fall short and again, that satan is a deceiver and only God fully knows people's hearts. We should trust godly leaders but have boundaries and accountability in place that true godly leaders would respect and honor.
stuff like this was normal back then, what we know now about grooming/predators, was not known then. Different times.
According to the Roys Report article on this, her dad eventually did confront Mike. "...her parents eventually recognized that her sister had feelings for Bickle. Her mother wrote Bickle a letter, telling him to stay away from her sister, and her father drove to Kansas City and told Bickle to “leave Tammy alone,”
I started tearing up when you said your pastor said : "they will have to come through me", and you felt heavens full support!
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For anyone left who doesn’t grasp the magnitude of the grievous wrong that was perpetrated on a fourteen year old girl I would love it if Tammy could share a picture of herself at that age. A picture does paint a thousand words.
Yes, need to visualize exactly what a child, this Innocent 14-year-old girl looked like- instead, some are looking at an attractive 57-year-old lovely godly lady and thinking: "Well, she should have known better".
On the advertisement for this podcast, there is a picture of Tammy in her cheerleading uniform - she is 14 years old in that picture.
One need only look up pictures online of any 14-year-olds to get a sense of this predator’s type of prey that he was seeking-those young ones whom he may (more easily) devour. The innocence and naivety of kids in that age range, coupled with going through puberty, makes them so attractive, as they are relatively easier prey for sexual predators than more psychologically mature, informed and discerning individuals.
That is one very important reason why parents are called “guardians.” No one-no pastor, youth leader, teacher, neighbor, extended family member, friend-no one should ever compromise on “avoiding the appearance of evil.” That includes never being alone with the opposite sex, or in any other possible “appearance of evil” type of situation. Because minors are typically not mature enough to create or uphold such safeguards for themselves, it is the parents’ responsibility to guard their children in this specific manner, thereby insuring their child’s safety.
Why was she allowed to be interviewed for a babysitting job by Mike without his wife or one of her parents present? Or allowed to be chauffered around alone with Mike? Or taken to a restaurant alone by him? Or in any room anywhere alone with him? Or making/receiving phone calls with him? Had her parents upheld this principle of “avoiding the appearance of evil,” Bickle would never have had inappropriate access to their precious daughter. She would have been spared 40+ years of the private hell and anguish of religious and sexual abuse; deep spiritual and psychological confusion; anxiety; likely depression or dysthymia; relational alienation from her parents, husband, family members and friends; relational distress with her eventual boyfriend, fiancé and husband; etc.
To say nothing of her sacrifice of further training in her beloved French language. Who knows, she might have evolved to a very enjoyable, fulfilling career as a French language teacher! But she was robbed of that potentially passionate career option, wasn’t she? Her Bickle-nurtured religious confusion and misplaced sense of obligation to him led her to sacrifice her young heart’s thirst for more of her beloved French language training to, instead, resign herself to Bickle’s plan of developing office skills to become his “personal secretary.”
And how has this impacted her own parenting? And ability for heart-to-heart intimacy in friendships? And on and on it goes….
“Despicable,” “appalling,” “heartwrenching”-no words are adequate to describe how she deeply has been violated, not only by Bickle, but by any who have denied or diminished in any way how the enemy has used them to attack or spiritually and psychologically abandon her.
May God fully cover her, protect her, heal her, restore her, educate her and continue to use her and her story to deliver and heal many others who are waiting for their own day of freedom.
Right, a 14 year barely has her first period .
Tammy handled this interview with so much grace. Incredible.
Mike Bickle was a complete narcissist. This is what wickedness looks like. God rescued this dear women from him.
It is definitely one shade of wickedness. The enemy wears many masks and he adjusts his schemes to who he is trying to destroy. In this case, destroying Mike thru self deception and predatory behaviors, Diane’s life, Tammy and a whole spiritual community. This is why we are warned to not be ignorant of the devil’s schemes or strategies of destruction. Lord help us all. 😭😤😤😤
Mike fits the criteria for a covert narcissist. He is a narcissist predator, the love bombing, isolation tactics, manipulation, etc.
Is not was.
All the years of her feeling like she was being left out of the "passionate community" was God actually protecting her.
"Mission over people!" That's my story. Not at IHOPKC, but the organization I was in was influenced by Mike Bickle, and I was influenced by him back in the 90s. So I've been keeping up with what's been going on and relating so much to the flavor of the story - the spiritual abuse, not sexual abuse. "Mission over people" is what has hurt so many people in the organization I was in too. It's insidious because it looks so good to be so focused on the mission and reaching the world, but it runs over individuals and crushes their hearts. Whatever is God led is not going to run over people.
Don’t forget bob Hartley
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If its a burden, its not from God.
@@AdvEug Amen!!! His yoke is easy and His burden is light.
So what does "take up your cross and follow me" mean? Was Golgotha not "of the Lord?"What about all the prophetic books that begin with the "burden" of the word of the Lord? Cursed are those who seek His back and not His face. With your lips you speak His name, but your heart is far from Him.
The thing I think of right off is why is he calling her and meeting with her about babysitting. I would think that would be something his wife would do. That’s how I always did it and when I was younger and babysitting, that’s how it always was. And then the other thing is why would he meet her alone and go to a Restaurant . Red Flags right off the bat. I’m so sorry about this. This may help parents to really think as they make decisions like this. I didn’t trust anybody with my daughter and now I have three granddaughters and you really have to be on guard.
I had the se red flags. Why was he not at home with his family? Why would Dianne not be suspicious!?
No way her parents didn’t knew.
I agree 💯!
Good question. Where was Diane? Where were her parents? What a snake.
Yes this has been my question the whole time.
She is one courageous woman to do this ❤
Good for her. I didnt realize predators are so damn slick.
@@pedinurse1they’re pretty slick and very charismatic. Very manipulative.
Amen Lord bless her and protect her in Jesus Name🙏
I'm so sick of these predators in ministry, who aren't corrected. Usually they are back in ministry in a short time. They must be held accountable. 🙏
Tammy, God Bless You! I love you, and I hurt for you. But more importantly, I'm so glad you're free. Find a good PCA church, and listen to RC Sproul, it changed my life forever.
This interview, like no other, has stripped away the cover of deception that MB has laid over his dark deeds and his fake position as a spiritual leader.
Never once did she call herself a victim. She is walking it out with Jesus no matter the cost.. Love this precious one!
But she is a victim. He groomed her as a little girl. What difference would it make if she said the word VICTIM?
I hope Diane Bickle watches this.
Thank you Tammy! I'm so sorry for what you have gone through and what all was taken from you.
She is locked away in a glass cabinet in the basement of the duplex
Women who are married to men like that usually defend them. … regardless of proof or evidence.
I also hope Diane watches this. I really pray for this very sad situation
Most likely she won’t take her side cause the majority of women who are with narcissistic men stand by their man. I’ve seen it repeatedly that even with evidence to the contrary people will stand by someone like this.
What sick, dysfunctional dynamics the Bickle family must have. The whole family was going to post a video saying the victims are lying to cover for this narcissist?! So twisted.
Anointing doesn’t equal character. Thanks for posting this.
He doesn’t have anointing from God. Believing this makes everything else he does possible
Facts.
@@breecameron1134 To be anointed by God is to be filled with all the fullness of God so that you can faithfully do His work in this world. “His divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us to His own glory and excellence” (2 Peter 1:3). Just because a wicked man that has no right to be in ministry or was never called or anointed by God, uses the word without the fear of the Lord, doesn’t mean that God’s divine power should be hated or reviled. Please! You need His power to fulfil your purpose, your calling.
He has an anointing. The wrong anointing that's not from God
What I don't understand is how did her parents not see how strange this was. An older man spending so much time with their daughter. How did they not see these red flags in their daughters life. I'm not saying this to criticize them at all I just don't understand how a parent wouldn't question what was going on even if they trusted him it's still odd that an older man would want to spend so much time with your young daughter daughter. I wish she would have clarified that better. I'm just stuck on thinking that as a parent.
It was the early 80's before the world knew of clergy abuse. Pastors, preachers, and priests were viewed as trustworthy men of God. Back then, one would never even imagine that there would be sexual intent much less abuse. And, as Tammy said in the video, Mike groomed our parents. He used sports to get in close with our dad, gain his trust, and access to Tammy. It was a time when no one had heard of grooming before. All I knew (at 10 years old back then) was that Mike was always around. He would just walk into our house, as if it was his home. That is how close he was to my parents. He gained their full trust to the point that they would never have dreamed he was sexually abusing their child.
It’s called pastor worship.
Another sickening thing about all this, is Mike had and two VERY young children at home as he was chasing after a 14 year old girl! I think he missed his true calling: Prison Ministry, because that is where he belongs.
"Mike Bickle has no friends...he has victims and he has opportunities." Tammy is so right on about that.
21:45 "I became more and more isolated and alone", He stole enormous portions of her life and the lives of others. And he is not at all sorry. "It will blow over in a year" he says. Wrong again Mike. This will never be over.
❤ wrenching.
He stole the innocence and joy and peace of mind of a precious girl. But she'd have to "own it." Wow.
We don't know if he's sorry or not, but it's not important. When we do bad things we hurt people, and that harm is permanent. Is it less of a crime if he feels sorry? He stole what he can never repay.
@@SnapCracklePapaYou're missing the point. The man seems to have no remorse. He sounds like a true narcissist and sociopath. He is DEFINITELY demonic and needs serious deliverance. He's dangerous.
This hit me smack between the eyes.
"Mike doesn't have any friends. He has victims and opportunities."
Oh. My.
You guys are young nuts .. I hope your prosecuted…get a job..woke Christian
Your just as nasty as mike bro. @hopebobhartley3812
Yes! Classic narcissist!
Girl, yes! This is just… 💣💣💣
Proverbs 14:11 A truthful witness saves lives but one who breathes out lies is deceitful. Thank you Tammy. Prayers.
What else has Mike lied about? 🤔Perhaps all that supernatural so-called encounters were figments of a delusional mind.
The comment Tammy makes near the end about the world being ahead of us in terms of how we handle these type of issues inside the church is so true. We need to get better at understanding how church creates systems where abuse of all kinds can flourish.
I think there are many people who want to give Tammy a big hug and say how proud we are of her courage! She is now free!
This woman has more courage than all of IHOPKC 'leadership' and 50 Mike Bickles put together....
May this be a Wake Up call for Parents to be wise not to let clergy be alone with any church leaders. Apostle Paul warned us about Wolves in sheep clothing. We need to develop a strong relationship with Our Lord first so we can be like the Bereans first. I have always been weary of preachers with huge platforms. I am so happy Tammy Woods is finally getting Justice. The Lord is our true redeemer & Judge‼️‼️‼️‼️
As I listen to Tammy's telling of her story, I am moved to tears because she is definitely a victim, a humble one who loves God. I was a victim of sexual abuse myself. I believe her story.
As a member of the body of Christ, my prayer is that we won't add already existing shame to the accusers. It takes much courage for any victim to step forward with nothing to gain, except for awareness in the church of this tragedy in order to prevent other women from being victimized.
Thank you, Tammy, for your transparency for the benefit of your own healing and others too. God bless you, Blaise, and Christina for shedding light on a dark subject that is often dismissed, ignored, and excused.
Wow! I’m so glad she shared her story with you guys. Hopefully more women will come forward and even on your show. This is very much needed to bring healing to victims. Thank you!
I got tears in my eyes when she talked about dropping French for a secretary skills class. :( it’s so tragic to hear how much he impacted her young life
To anyone who is a victim and hasn’t been able to come forward…please know the first step is so scary. It may feel like your entire world is going to fall apart. But as Tammy stated, there is so much freedom in bringing things to the light! I could definitely relate to what she was saying there. I brought my spiritual/sexual abuse up 15 years after the fact. Tammy waited almost 3 times longer than that. It’s never too late!! May the shackles and chains be broken in the name of Jesus!!
Thank u.
"Tammy if anyone tries to come at you, they'd have to come through me first." That made me cry😢 We need more pastors willing to come alongside people like that. Too many side with perpetrators. I Thank God for your pastor, Tammy 🙏🏾
I have a tendency to believe that anyone who would defend Mike Bickle is probably someone who is guilty of the same. God deliver these men from the demonic strongholds!
Wow, what a brave, kind woman. This needed to come out for all those who have been abused and have learned to doubt themselves because of it.
And emotional & spiritual abuse is part of this. So many lives impacted world wide.
Wow what a beautiful brave strong woman of God!! THANK YOU!! As someone who moved to KC a year before IHOP started and grew up around all the leaders this was like a glass of cold water! Lord let there be LIGHT! 🙏
Why is no one asking about his wife Diane? Where was she this whole time? There are no stories about her and how she turned a blind eye to this during her whole marriage! Did she know? Did she suspect? Was she asking questions like…. “Why is my husband spending so much time with these young women? Why are people saying he locks the doors with women in his office”….Did she ever confront Mike? Did he just manipulate her and she was a puppet?
Yes I wonder. She was probably nieve. A lot of Christian adults are nieve because they just can't IMAGINE that pastor or " my son" or " my daughter" or my sister or " my husband " etc etc could EVER do that!
Mike Bickle STOLE this woman’s girlhood. 😡 God bless you guys… I can’t listen to this in one sitting. It’s so incredibly upsetting.
God bless Tammy Woods. 💔😭
Entire life
I agree I have to listen to more later. It's so very truly SCHOCKING.I WASNTED EXPECTING TO SEE OR WATCH THIS TODAY BUT GOD'S TIMING. HE VADA HEBRON KNOWS WHEN WE CAN SANELY HANDLE MORE OF THIS SAD SITUATION.
Apparently, he has a long history of a pattern of deceit and predatory behavior. ALL his so-called supernatural stories need to be called into question. The glaring fact is, he should've served time in prison for his repeated criminal behavior.
Blaise & Christina thank you for seeing how important these women are. I am so moved and blessed by Tammy’s mercy towards this situation, stunning
Well said.
Thank you Tammy for your courage. I’m so deeply sorry for what happened to you sister🙏🏽🙏🏽
I appreciate y’all Blaise and Christina❤️ love from NC!!
This woman is incredible! And God's faithfulness to her is astounding!
Wrshpr4lf, I love your name! God bless you!
I still feel like she is over romantisizing Mike's motives at the start. I think he picked her out for a very different reason than her hunger for God. He saw an easy victim. I'm also a victim of child SA and he was my sister's boyfriend. Predators see victims and pull them into these situations from the start. Her overt shyness and awkwardness worked in his favor. She wouldn't tell, and he knew it.
I think she will realize this at some point if she hasn't already . She was a child while all this stuff was happening and the process of realizing everything that was actually going on at the time for what it actually was will probably be a gradual process over a long period of time.
This is true. Predators choose the ones who will not speak. Mike painted godliness as the reason he chose her to others in the church, to our parents, and to Tammy. As she unravels 43 years of grooming, deception, and abuse, she is beginning to see that every word was false - including his reasons for latching onto her.
Yep- it was very cringey to hear her say he was drawn to her because of her hunger for God. No. He was drawn to her because she was cute, and he was a pedo.
I think she's growing in realization of these things. I think she's sharing how her mind saw her world in all honesty, and that's OK. She was starstruck by Mike and admits that. But it's also brave of her to come forth and share that part of her story and that wrestling in her own mind of who Mike was. I think that's what makes her story soo captivating. It would have been easier to want to hide that part of her story and only demonize everything from the beginning. But it's really brave and helpful to other victims who don't realize that they are being groomed that she shared that. I really appreciate her honesty vulnerability 💕
Yes, but he has a kink for really young girls who worship the Lord with enthusiasm. Remember what Sam Storms said.
I’m no saint, but 12min into this interview my blood is boiling. Mike bickle is a predator and has to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. This criminal needs to see jail time, instead of walking around free with his stupid smirk on his face.
It is a dumb smirk
No wonder he was termed as "cocky" walking around like an arrogant rooster among hens. Dang, where was Diane in all this? Or is she just as deranged as Mike?
Smirk is right. 😤
That’s righteous anger
No I felt the same. I had to pause it. So messed up 😠
Mike confessed to Tammy…“I kissed a famous worship leader. Everyone knows her name.” Sounds like Misty Edwards to me. When Tammy talks about Mike indoctrinating her to believe she needs to be celibate/not get married. How that’s the way she should live. But really he just wanted her to wait for him when Diane to dies. Reminds me of all the times Misty Edwards talks about staying celibate and wrestling with celibacy. Did Misty choose to remain celibate and not get married because that was Mike’s influence because he was grooming her too, like Tammy? Sounds familiar.
Also, Tammy said that Mike was trying to groom Tammy to tell people when questioned if she was in an inappropriate relationship with Mike, to just tell them, “he was the most Godliest man I knew.” Again, sounds familiar… Misty Edwards went on her Instagram page when all this came out and talked about Mike being the godliest man she knew. Hmmmm…Coached to say that (like Tammy)?
Misty was living with a married man in sin.
Except he never believed his wife was going to die. He is a full out narcissist incapable of human love or compassion
THANK YOU BLAISE & CHRISTINA FOR HOSTING THIS VERY IMPORTANT INTERVIEW. GOD'S CONTINUED BLESSINGS ON YOU & YOUR FAMILY!
Can we just take a moment and THANK GOD for Boz! This man is an unsung hero 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Ughhh have you seen his tick tok shorts and how he talks to people on them and his arrogance
As someone who has not followed this Mike Bickle thing very closely (I have watched only a handful of videos about it over the last few months) this lady's story is a real eye opener. I had been somewhat giving him the benefit of the doubt about what stories are true or made up. Up until the time I watched this I thought there was a real possibility that it was just one woman that he was improperly involved with decades ago. This lady is entirely 100% credible. I did not know most of the things that she had to say. On top of all the other things that she had to say (she gave him a get out of jail for free card... Literally!) the fact that he (a minister who is familiar with what Rev 21:8 says) tried to encourage her to be a LIAR is mind boggling to me. That's just puts it way over the top...
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars...
they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” (Rev 21:8)
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Tammy, thank you for speaking out.
For him to imply that that you were a tool in the hand of God to humble him, because his assignment was so large and important is the grossest form of manipulation and clergy SA one could imagine.
When people outside of faith are doing a better job protecting girls and women we are seriously behind.
I wouldn’t go that far
The grooming he put her through to twist and make her believe she was initiating the relationship, is so subtle and lays the foundation of guilt and shame that becomes the toxic glue that lock's her into the relationship. The blame game that she is vixen sets him up to escape responsibility when thecrelationship is exposed. This is typical of a skilled abuser who gets himself into a trusted postion of power to set up a captive network of people around him to exploite and abuse. The scenario she describes profiles the offender as a high risk offender whom the research would show has probably offended in the past and is likely to opportunistically repeat offend in the future. He fits this profile as high risk due to the high level of skill, manipulation he displays, demonstrated by the length of time he was able to get away with it.They are sophisticated and skilled liars who rarely get caught unless the victim exposes. When caught they will victim blame and seek to absolve themselves by minimising their part to play and over emphasising the victims role. The deflecting and minimising by the offender is classic high risk indicators. I have worked with adult sex offenders and he fits the profile of a high risk case.
Soooooo scary!
Also he put it on her to carry the burden if they were outed. The reason he did that was so HE wouldn't go to jail because she was still a child at 14. That's a predator MB
Why do we use forgivenes to cover what is against the law. You can still forgive someone but see them put behind bars for thier own good and to protect other victims.
Yes! And use forgiveness to cover up breaking God’s laws too😢
I'm so righteously angry for this lady and all that Mike stole from her. Praise God that she hasn't lost her faith because of it...but to be so twisted by this evil man is absolutely despicable. I really applaud her for coming forward - she is truly courageous!
So appreciate this open discussion. Thanks for your courage Tammy!
This interview alone was what it took for me to see the truth in this situation! It is so vitally important that this interview be shared to open eyes and hopefully prevent more of these situations in the future. This is a substantial reference for girls that are questioning what possibly could be happening in their life to listen to and hear how this takes place step by step in most abusive relationships.
Man! He wasted no time didn’t he. Wow! He was the sleaziest predator.. and believe me I have a world of experience in this, personally and with my own daughter’s. I just wish we knew how to prepare our daughters for this type of abuse in these situations.. thankfully she allowed GOD to stay near her through all of this. She could have ended up hating God.., but Thank The Lord. I have seen others who didn’t come back to church ever again.. GOD BLESS THIS WOMAN..😔🙏🙏’s to her and you two doing this I’m sure way Ed heavy on your hearts.. I’ve missed you guys..😌🫥< don’t stay gone so long okay 👌 love ya guys.. ❤
Daughters can be protected by 1) teaching them their own worth, and how to spot a predator; 2) dads valuing them and showing them how they should be treated by men, and 3) getting back to the good old idea of chaperoning. It sounds like she had a great relationship with her dad, but MB's charming personality had everyone blinded.
@@squeeks40 this is why everything you listed except for the last one is a key everyone doesn’t get. I knew a lot about how they groom them, I just didn’t want to list it all, not enough room here to do so, it would have been pointless. The last one you listed is a very difficult one to weed out, especially since the time line she mentioned. We have better tools today, but there are still moves used by men today that have made it easier in one way & harder on the other way. It take sharper parents and never trusts a man in the church, even if you think GOD HIMSELF SENT HIM DOWN FROM HEAVEN.. And by this I’m saying never allow him go anywhere alone with your daughter’s. It’s sad that it has come down to this, but it’s needed even more.. these men look for weakness within the family and find those vulnerable spots these girls have.. it’s not all cut & dry as most people think… 🤔
Tammy, such courage to share your story in this interview. I believe your voice is and will continue to be a weapon in the Father’s hand. Exposing lies and giving clarity and permission to others to be freed from secret shame. I’m so proud of you! I don’t know you, but you make me feel so much hope in this horrific narrative coming to light -hope that light will shine and redemption is coming ❤️
Mike Bickle was/is a predator and this story shows he has so many of the hallmarks of a narcissist: love bombing, manipulation, isolation from family and friends, lack of accountability, blaming others, and lies, just to mention a few.
He is clearly a very charismatic and gifted person, but I find it extremely difficult to believe that he was ever truly a man of God. His twisting of the scriptures to justify his predatory and abusive actions towards a minor and "prophetically" lying about how his wife was going to die (how utterly sick!) tells me he has ZERO fear of God and relied solely on his charms and natural gifts.
I believe that God, in his lovingkindness and mercy touched people like Tammy and other sincere seekers *in spite of* Bickle, not because of him.
All my opinion, of course.
It is his iniquity. It is a vice that rules his behaviours and mind, mixed with his messed up psychology. He's very messed up!!! It's making me so mad hearing what he did with her all those years and to other women!!!!!
Never a man of God. Just a wolf.
This is appalling to me. And I was a therapist who worked with sex offenders in the prison system and know of the insane grooming techniques, glamourous nicest guy ever persona, and unbelievable skilled manipulative techniques. But a pastor that teaches passion for Jesus like he really believes it? Absolutely unbelievable that he was able to pull this off for so very long. CRAZY!!!! Where in the hell were his spiritual mentors to teach him about ethical behavior as he is entering into the pastoral ship? Was Tammy Woods really his first victim? What was he doing the years prior to her? He developed this pattern from somewhere before this. Where was Diane when he was spending large amounts of time with this 14-year-old driving her around? Where were Tammy's parents, why weren't they driving her to and from events? Where was the wise discernment in parenting and in that church? It rips at my heart that no one was watching after, properly caring for or protecting this innocent child! AAAAKKK!!! (of course I am very aware of this triggering my past wounds and area of greatest need for safety) Didn't anyone recognize this strange unrighteous risky unethical unbiblical behavior of Mike Bickle, a married man and new father, toward this young child? My daughter is a helicopter parent for good reason. May the Lord alert our eyes, heart and spirit with wise discernment in these end times that are full of deception and perversion!!!
"Where in the hell were his spiritual mentors to teach him about ethical behavior as he is entering into the pastoral ship?"
See, that's the thing. He never went to bible college or seminary, and first became a pastor at c. 22 years old. A senior pastor at 25 or something crazy. His mentor if he had one was Bob Jones, the mentally ill false prophet. You could do an entire podcast on Bickle's early days. One of the first churches he became a pastor of was by invitation of a few new Christians who saw him speak once and asked him to pastor their little church after just the one message. There was some very strange other stuff going on at the start of his career. He was not screened by elders. He had no credentials. He didn't even have a college degree. He dropped out of college then did 3 months of bible school at an obscure place in Colorado. Some of this is written up in the bio of his brother Pat Bickle by D. Falls (Amazon). According to a post on CZcams for another video on Bickle, someone from his early days said one of Bickle's early offers to be a pastor came when the senior pastor's assistant resigned over this senior pastor's affair with his secretary. So that's how people like Bickle can get jobs. Crooked pastors platforming crooked pastors. Similar thing happened when crooked Bickle platformed crooked prophets Jones and Cain.
Thank you so much, all three of you. Thank you so much.🫶
1 Thessalonians 4:11
Tammy didn’t have a small life. She had a genuine life for the Lord. Mike was a living lie. A dazzling house of cards.
Exactly!
I can't imagine how hard this was. Thank you for your courage and love.
I don't know how she survived this Spiritual abuse let alone the sexual and psychological abuse, only God was able to keep from bitterness and keep her sane.
Where in the world were her parents?? Didn't they think this was strange , him being so involved with their daughter
This woman is so brave! I believe her story will empower so many other women to come out with their stories of abuse incurred at the hands of leaders in the church. God bless you, Tammy, and thank you for telling your story!
I am so grateful to Tammy Woods & Wake up & Win podcast for presenting this interview. Tammy’s testimony seems to break thru all the doubt. Tammy was so careful to not offend listeners but was perhaps too soft on explaining the physical & moral abuse of Mike Bickle on this minor child. Just because it wasn’t ‘intercourse’, poor Tammy’s body, soul & spirit was abused repeatedly. She did explain so well the incredible grooming that he did with her all these years! Horrendous. I hope others begin to understand the darkness this brought to all the Jane Does & this ministry. Holding all in prayer. Celebrating God bringing truth to the Body of Christ. As a victim of SA, I want u to know how healing this is to other victims! No more protecting predators. We are all waking up & winning Christina & Blaise!
This man called her a tool, she never has connected that word with the rest of the world’s definition.
This is powerful. Thank you!
Tammy, your strength and beauty in God is so clear. Your heart is full of gentleness and tenderness. Bless you for sharing, many souls will be set free knowing it's okay to come out of darkness and that they are not alone. Much love fellow sister❤
I hope this takes him down, and everything else is revealed in plain sight. I had my own experience at a Christian college and it’s time we fix this “mercy for predators” delusion
This is like a huge boil popping and now her true healing can begin, and others likewise affected. From what she says, Misty clearly fell victim to the celibacy narrative. She's still under the spell and instead fell into other affairs. So sorry that she missed out on true love, marriage and children altogether. I have experienced my own trauma narc story all by myself, but the patterns are always similar and therefore absolutely true, believable and truth will prevail. Thank you so much for the courage and finding your voice and giving others a voice to step forward to reclaim righteousness, truth and in a way reclaim their soul from this monstrosity that has come to steal these women's purpose, destiny and identity. Revelation says: They overcome him by the blood of the Lamb and the words of their testimony and loved not their lives unto death.l This is the walk that's been aired right here!!
I’m so heartbroken hearing your story. Thank you for sharing Tammy. Covering you in prayer. Jesus, use this for all women still confronting and unpacking their own stories! Set them all free.
Tammy the way you thought as a 14 year old and all the way through is exactly how I'd expect any young Christian girl and then woman who loved God and trusted the pastor would think about this.
Edited to add: Your testimony will help change this and help everyone be better equipped to see through the manipulation.
God bless you and your family, Christina and Blaze and everyone here. Thank you both for the work you do here
Thank you for sharing. I'm so sorry to hear this. My heart hurts
Misty is under his manic spell, please pray for her deliverance
Who cares 🤢🤮
Most likely she is suffering from trauma. It is hard to come to terms with how deeply trust has been broken. God knows the timing she needs to heal. Keep praying for her of course!
We pray for that every day and for the other women who are still under his stronghold. God will set them free.
PRAYING for Misty now
The situation with Misty and Prosch really hurt my heart. Praying for her. She needs to be able to acknowledge the truth. She's been groomed from age 19 and now in her 40's and built her life around the IHOP ministry. It's horrendous
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I would love to know if any of Tammy's family noticed how much time and attention their 25 year old pastor was giving to their 14 year old daughter? That is so odd to me that no one thought it strange how he would give her rides, watch her play racquetball etc? That is alarming to me that no one thought that was inappropriate? God bless Tammy for being courageous and doing the right thing!!
What a brave woman. Thank you for coming forward and telling the truth.
I am weeping and praying and I love your channel . My family prays for you guys to keep this channel going . Don’t stop ! We r covering you all in prayer . Don’t Stop ! Let The Light Shine !
Tammy you are very articulate, wise, mature, strong, honest, courageous. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Tammy, you did such a wonderful job sharing! You are so brave ♥️ and I’m so thankful for your courage!
My heart grieves for Diane too, her husband tried to word curse her to death over the years, so he could take a girl bride. He is so sick, a manipulator, probably narcissist. Thank you Lord for stopping him.
Thank you for coming forward, I see your heart through all this. You never wanted to slander or gossip. You have done everything with great care and consideration. And I see the pressure that the systems of the church put in place to hold control, that if you speak out it will cause division and trouble…. But these are all just control mechanisms
Thank you all so much…great interview…very well thought out-good questions, good answers!
Thank you for sharing your story.
Thank you Christina and Blaise for your willingness to get these stories out. Appreciate you so much.
ty Tammy! We need exposure not only for ihopkc erroneous theology, but for Bickle to repent. The other women need to come forward. 🙏🏻
God bless you and keep you, Taammy! So sorry for all that happened to you! Thank you so much for speaking out!
Thanks for speaking out and for helping this lady speak. Also I am thankful for the church leadership that are taking this seriously. I love what Tami says starting at 1:10:19 “ this isn’t about forgiveness, it’s about justice, accountability, and making the wrong things, right”
No words can express how disturbing this is. God bless Tammy for coming forward and for you Blaze and Christina for sharing her story.
Wow. So insightful. Thank you!
12 minutes in and I am sick. That poor 14-year-old.
Thank you, Tammy! You are exposing deep darkness. May you continue to heal and prosper in all things, just as your soul prospers 3Jn.2 🎉❤
Blessings Christina and Blaise! Thank you Tammy for this Powerful, Brave and Courageous testimony. Many will be set free by your emboldening example. May the Lord restore all the years of innocence stolen and give you even more favor and healing for you and your family. You have a wonderful pastor along with his wife. Excellent counsel. Hang on to the movie rights. Your story needs to be told far and wide ❤
Thank you for sharing this and much grace and peace to Tammy for her bravery to share this. Praying that the Lord would guard her keep her and her family in these days.
Tammy said “[Mike] saw a genuine hunger for the Lord [in her].” No, that isn’t what he saw. He saw a young girl he could manipulate that he could take advantage of.
Thank you so much for sharing your story. You are so brave. You didn’t deserve the abuse that you suffered as a child. Stories like yours, though heartbreaking, need to be shouted from the rooftops. Thank you again. I will pray for your continued healing.
Thank you for telling us your story. It’s about justice and also restoration and also that there are no more victims. Very well spoken.
So beautiful woman ❤ Tammy processed that nightmare with the Lord and survived. God bless you
Such a moving interview and testimony, and I could so understand the way Tammy experienced confusion in her young life as wife and mother, as if her choices were somehow inferior. So glad this festering boil has been lanced, and she has been vindicated.
Good job speaking up Tam! I hope that this helps many from all kinds of abusers to step up and speak out! #ProudOfYou
Thank you Lord for giving Tammy the courage to speak out!
Lord rescue Diane Bickle from this man!!! Open her eyes!
Don’t be fooled. Diane knows her man. Her support made him possible.
@@sonnayhwh what was in it for her to have a man who was having constant affairs and not trustworthy?
Prayers for her are appropriate and should be made. I hope she and Misty Edwards will wake up or own up to what they have witnessed and experience. For some people the cost is to dear to their reputation and pride to admit they were wrong and wouldn’t speak up. A minor like Tammy was is a different matter. And she has exhibited courage in coming forward.
@@AmericanDreamAlbumFame in the charismatic world….money, admiration, contacts. He was treated like a “god” according to advocate wives. Clearly, this man was idolized. She got a lot.
@@bordendonna I just wonder what it could’ve been really? She had to live in that trashy duplex with a guy who was always cheating on her. What was it? Nice dinners? She was rarely at church when he was preaching etc. Just hard to see unless she was genuinely manipulated and brainwashed what she was getting that was so great… unless she was just infatuated with his status like you say.
I’d be curious to know how being groomed as a teen impacted her later life choices, marriage, and subsequent marital problems.
Seriously do some research
Curiosity killed the cat... mind your own choices in life...
That would be a therapy session...
@@Stephens718 I have. It’s pretty tragic. For the others whose lives she has destroyed.
@@dimitrisiliadis4939 I will. But I’ll also watch closely when people are being held up as tragic and spotless victims. Because there’s usually more to the story.
Thsnk you Tammy, i needed to hear Mike's specific manipulative techniques to help me see the way predators who claim to be Christians operate. A million thanks!
Such a courageous woman!! Thank you for having her on.
Thank you Tammy for doing the right thing in coming forward. That took a lot of courage. Thank God for being there with you and for your pastor who supported you.