Civ 6 | The Hardest TSL Start In Civ 6? Ursa Loses 12 Times!! #1 - (Deity TSL France Civilization 6)

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  • čas přidán 12. 03. 2022
  • In this game of Civ 6, we’ll be attempting to win on one of, if not the, hardest TSL starts of Civilization VI - it’s poor old France!
    Starting in the middle of an overcrowded Europe, France has England, Netherlands and Spain all sending loyalty issues it’s way - as well as the worst bit of all, GAUL, who are just the absolute worst.
    This is one of the hardest games I have ever attempted in Civ 6 - don’t be shy, come to discord and give it a try if you’re into pain!
    All maps, mods and tech support on getting these games to work are available on my discord, so swing by!
    Make sure you subscribe below so you don't miss more Deity Civilization VI fun!
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Komentáře • 194

  • @blakemcsorley4452
    @blakemcsorley4452 Před 2 lety +174

    ah, my favorite historical beef: gaul and eleanor of aquitaine

  • @Groaker
    @Groaker Před 2 lety +123

    Maya are also ridiculous. You are crammed in to a small area, next to the Aztec and Gran Colombia, with no way to stop the loyalty swing because you're already flashing red by the time you get a monument or a builder.

    • @ticksunbs4944
      @ticksunbs4944 Před 2 lety +25

      And La Venta and Hunza both spawned on top of you

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety +24

      They take tall empire to a whole new level!

    • @tippyc2
      @tippyc2 Před rokem +1

      Khmer sucks too. Pinned in by Singapore and Ayutthaya, and the only way to expand is north. North straight into Vietnam.

  • @hippiblue
    @hippiblue Před 2 lety +58

    That's the most times I've watched anyone loose at civilization in less than an hour.

  • @nanogalactic6016
    @nanogalactic6016 Před 2 lety +58

    Some TSL starts are nearly impossible without the loyal capitals mod

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety +10

      Nearly was all we needed!!!

  • @mikol789
    @mikol789 Před 2 lety +75

    This was so interesting watching you slowly tinker and find the small improvements each time! Super excited to see the rest

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety +6

      It was fun, after the pain!

  • @paulgaofei
    @paulgaofei Před 2 lety +32

    Wow, a 55 min episode with such a rough start … talk about a labour of love! Respect Ursa.

  • @orarinnsnorrason4614
    @orarinnsnorrason4614 Před 2 lety +5

    Your struggle reminded me of one of my favorite cartoon as a kid, The 12 Labours of Asterix & Obelisk. Where Ceasar was desperately building his forts to hold them off lol.

  • @jeycarl
    @jeycarl Před 2 lety +19

    "That felt better." We're here with you, love this stuff (especially the "reroll" part which I do myself soooo often... under less stressful circumstances tho lol)

    • @jeycarl
      @jeycarl Před 2 lety +1

      Epic. Well done!

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety +1

      haha - cheers! labour of love

  • @littlefitzy96
    @littlefitzy96 Před 2 lety +8

    Honestly, every attempt felt like watching a branch of an alternate timeline.

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety +4

      I think I must have created FAR too many time lines in the multiverse over the years

  • @EdJamesNice
    @EdJamesNice Před 2 lety +6

    As an average Civ 6 sim'ming tourist player, I get bullied quite regularly by the AI. It's nice to see a Tier 'S' player (see what I did there) hitting their ceiling and facing some really difficult similar hurdles, playing it through and showing warts and all with some really great commentary on strategy. This video was so intense and I loved it. I can't wait for Episode #2 - The Galling Gall of Gaul. I love a bit of alliteration I do... And Petra.

  • @Dawsonsincedawsonstaken
    @Dawsonsincedawsonstaken Před 2 lety +5

    I’m commenting to boost the algorithm, I really love these tsl games

  • @gchwee83
    @gchwee83 Před 2 lety +4

    Eleanor is OP in the mid to late game. But her early game is so hectic: defence, theatre squares, wonders, economy

  • @Wise_That
    @Wise_That Před 2 lety +3

    One thing that would have helped you a lot here is the Zone of Control rules. Melee units have a special property that non-cavalry units that step next to them are forced to stop their movement and have to either end their turn or attack the warrior. There were a couple of times where you said "If I end my turn like this, then Gaul will be able to X", when that wasn't true, because the warrior would have stopped enemy movement.

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety

      it's true, but often city attacks can bend the usual rules - you can often attack from a "blocked" tile into a city even with a defending troop, as we saw from the video a few times. I try to use zone of control when I can, but I'm sure there is always more to spot!

  • @maj.kingkong3004
    @maj.kingkong3004 Před 2 lety +2

    That was cool. Perseverance pays!

  • @jacobmagnuson8245
    @jacobmagnuson8245 Před 2 lety +4

    Amazing content as always Ursa!

  • @mirandabee2323
    @mirandabee2323 Před 2 lety +4

    Probably due to the number of players in the game, you're playing my ideal aesthetic: Eleanor but with lavender territory.

  • @BigstackMcgee
    @BigstackMcgee Před 2 lety +1

    I really enjoyed this one - well done ryan!

  • @kleozyn4179
    @kleozyn4179 Před 2 lety +4

    Hey Ursan, i just wanted to thank you for your amazing content! much love from germany for your hard work and the wonderful entertainment!

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety +2

      Cheers!!! Really appreciate it, glad you enjoy!! = )

  • @nosequecarajo
    @nosequecarajo Před 2 lety +1

    HOLY!!! i love this kind of vidoes man!!! you rock!

  • @hugos1568
    @hugos1568 Před 10 měsíci

    My god well try, you played very serious on this one, congratulations!

  • @robsanheim6780
    @robsanheim6780 Před měsícem

    this was great! more of these insane starts with all the failures please

  • @DocNo27
    @DocNo27 Před 2 lety +2

    For the algorithm!
    Love these TSL games and really appreciate you doing them!

  • @McCloudious
    @McCloudious Před 2 lety +1

    Bravo Ursa! That was tough work but it was so fun to watch!

  • @dagronborm2055
    @dagronborm2055 Před 2 lety +5

    I always look forward to your videos, thanks for the daily uploads

  • @feralcatgirl
    @feralcatgirl Před 2 lety +8

    my instinctive strategy would just be to run my starting settler to like central asia. no idea how well that would work ofc

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety +3

      if you never stop, they never catch up

  • @ranaraeuchle6485
    @ranaraeuchle6485 Před 2 lety +4

    I really didn't think it was possible. That's amazing. I'll bet it's also hard to start as Vietnam or Korea considering how many civs are packed into the southeast and east asia part of the map.

  • @eduardo3652
    @eduardo3652 Před 2 lety

    Wow! That wore ME out! Good job Ryan!

  • @lactose_in_tahoe4250
    @lactose_in_tahoe4250 Před 2 lety

    This was wild can’t wait to see the next episode

  • @clinthenness7186
    @clinthenness7186 Před rokem

    Man....This is great for a laugh...Never gets old to see again

  • @lukeearthcrawler896
    @lukeearthcrawler896 Před 2 lety +1

    Brilliant, Ryan! This is my favorite Civ6 video in quite some time. The strategy to trade gpt and then declare war on the AI is a very interesting one. Unorthodox, yes. But quite powerful. Imagine if you can get enough gold for an extra settler or two. My next game I'll do this with the AIs that are not next to me. Kupe can do this with pretty much all AIs, as they can't even enter oceans early on.

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety +1

      it is good!
      typically if you want to exploit this sort of thing, the best way of doing it is to declare joint wars with civs that are willing to give you their entire gold economies - you normally get more that way - but both strategies are good = )

  • @dominickfekete3458
    @dominickfekete3458 Před 2 lety +1

    Loving your content Ursa. Always so fun and creative. Discovered you when potato let you use his account and you did that crazy Hungary game! Been obsessed with your content ever since! Keep up the awesome work!

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety +1

      cheers!!! really appreciate you sticking around = )

    • @dominickfekete3458
      @dominickfekete3458 Před 2 lety

      @@UrsaRyan hard not to! It's very entertaining!

  • @rasdov
    @rasdov Před 2 lety

    Excited for the creative solutions other players will make. Make sure to make a video dedicated for this ursa! Might try it myself

  • @Banchetph
    @Banchetph Před 2 lety

    Love the persistence and perseverance.

  • @jacobdhall
    @jacobdhall Před 2 lety +1

    SENDING THE VIBES URSA

  • @444vito444
    @444vito444 Před rokem

    Love your videos, just subscribed!

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před rokem +1

      Cheers! Glad to have you watching!

  • @ieshi23
    @ieshi23 Před 2 lety

    I really enjoyed this episode, it felt similar to seeing someone trying to strategize through pokemon kaizo. And this infuriating video made me appreciate all the effort you put into making these videos, thank you

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety

      I haven't checked out pokemon kaizo, is that the insane version?

    • @ieshi23
      @ieshi23 Před 2 lety

      @@UrsaRyan yes. the mechanics are the same as the regular games, but carefully tweaked to be a pain to play through

  • @portland573
    @portland573 Před 2 lety +1

    Yeesh, this is a tough one to take on. Very brave Ursa.

  • @williampage4623
    @williampage4623 Před 2 lety +6

    can you do a giga naval game with only naval civs (so if they have a unique boat or bonuses from coast eg australia) with a huge map and archipeligo realy fun to do and is difficult if you spawn next to harald but a realy fun one anyway love your videos keep it up

  • @McAabee
    @McAabee Před 2 lety

    great episode . good job lad :)

  • @SweenyMarc
    @SweenyMarc Před 2 lety

    Fascinating video, I genuinely thought it might be impossible and was on the edge of my seat. There's got to be a short vid supercut of all the defeats!

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety

      perhaps a short???

    • @SweenyMarc
      @SweenyMarc Před 2 lety +1

      @@UrsaRyan Exactly. Just the last turn of AI moves before each defeat screen. Bam-bam-bam-defeat! Bam-bam-bam-defeat! Bam-bam-bam-defeat!

  • @deankaplan4662
    @deankaplan4662 Před 2 lety

    Wow, I was looking forward to this! I love Eleanor’s playstyle and was just playing tsl uk Eleanor last night. Have never played her as France tho.

  • @aidenxokeefe
    @aidenxokeefe Před 11 dny

    This is a great video; such a big difference in your audio quality these days!

  • @The0Kuki
    @The0Kuki Před rokem +1

    great video :) and one of the best "subscribe" announcments I have ever heard :)

  • @vagag.7320
    @vagag.7320 Před 2 lety +1

    this was hella entertaining

  • @mattwillis9598
    @mattwillis9598 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice work, I felt your pain. Makes for good content 😂

  • @strikingdummy8001
    @strikingdummy8001 Před 2 lety

    This is easily the hardest start I’ve seen in any civ game. Fair play.

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety

      Cheers! Yeah I lost much hair on this one

  • @andrewbunch2394
    @andrewbunch2394 Před 2 lety +1

    Very impressive play there!

  • @ezz625
    @ezz625 Před rokem

    I love this: Its like Edge of Tomorrow, but in civ.

  • @sharkodile22
    @sharkodile22 Před 2 lety +1

    POV: Literally just French history.

  • @saurabhmahajan3448
    @saurabhmahajan3448 Před 2 lety

    Great. It must be annoying restarting the game every time, that wait time. Respect. 🙏

  • @juriskrauklis6412
    @juriskrauklis6412 Před 2 lety

    Well, that was entertaining, thanks!

  • @ophh28
    @ophh28 Před 2 lety

    A true masterclass!

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety

      Cheers! I wouldn't call myself a master though!!!

  • @Jonnysh
    @Jonnysh Před 2 lety +1

    This feels like a great labour of love

  • @alexhutchison8447
    @alexhutchison8447 Před 2 lety

    I almost didn't subscribe. But then you reminded me. And now I'm subscribed. Also have a like

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety

      Haha - gotta flog the wares, sorry about that

  • @MrTink_
    @MrTink_ Před 2 lety

    Best Civ VI creator out there.

  • @markandwendytimothy5890

    Stunning performance... often failure and how to fix it is far more instructive and interesting than simply winning every time, however difficult the challenge

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety

      this is so true! defeat is pretty much the best learning curve you can go on

  • @noahrandolph379
    @noahrandolph379 Před 2 lety

    LFG good work dude

  • @Ottocide
    @Ottocide Před 2 lety

    The Court of Love prevails!

  • @Bezlonirslair
    @Bezlonirslair Před 2 lety

    That was a crazy start!

  • @rmerrida
    @rmerrida Před 2 lety

    Man, you was like Dr. Strange looking for that one way out of a million to beat Thanos. 🤔🤔🤔😃

  • @martingeorgiev6309
    @martingeorgiev6309 Před 10 měsíci

    It is very cool to watch super difficult starts - quite refreshing compared to straightforward god starts :P

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 10 měsíci

      I like to vary them up a bit!

  • @widgetb
    @widgetb Před 2 lety +1

    I thought for sure the only hope was moving up to Brittany. Amazing! And hey, France have good cheese. (I'm going now.)

    • @JohnnoBogan
      @JohnnoBogan Před 2 lety

      Perfect synergy in fromagery in gameplay too.

  • @tdawgluxor1060
    @tdawgluxor1060 Před 2 lety +1

    well done!

  • @winslowgordon2396
    @winslowgordon2396 Před 2 lety +1

    Great game, will give it a try

  • @DavidSmith-mt7tb
    @DavidSmith-mt7tb Před 2 lety +13

    Would it benefit you to declare on THEM? thought I heard that doing so puts them on a defensive footing. I don't remember all the details but I think it makes them less likely to attack cities and easier to get peace with if you kill some units or something like that.

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety +5

      I tried, but even if I killed a unit, I could never make the advantage last. Defending proved way more successful

    • @joshua2280
      @joshua2280 Před rokem +1

      @@UrsaRyan I am actually really impressed with the micro manage you do here. I was watching and trying to calculate what could be done for this early war against a much stronger gaul. That money moving trick was very wise. I don't want to know how many tries you actually needed to find a light in the dark to work towards

  • @czitrom42
    @czitrom42 Před 2 lety

    wow, that was extreme!!!

  • @smurfyjosh
    @smurfyjosh Před 2 lety

    Wow! Just wow!

  • @saketdhodapkar
    @saketdhodapkar Před 2 lety

    Not gonna lie ... This is brutal

  • @gumbycat5226
    @gumbycat5226 Před 2 lety

    Dear Ryan,
    The reason why Eleanor starts where she does is because it's in Aquitaine, the English holdings in the south-west of France. If you started as Mary I suspect you'd start where Paris is actually located, and have an even harder time. As Eleanor also, I suspect you have a huge advantage - all you have to do is survive and loyalty will convert your over-crowded neighbours just by maximizing population growth.
    If you want the hardest TSL start, try the Dutch on a TSL map that puts them on a peninsula surrounded by sea and marsh - I think the huge TSL map will do the trick, even if you just play with the European sector. If you do manage to get the Marsh Pantheon and then even better the Marsh Wonder, it's going to be a fantastic game but the chances are slim.

  • @JohnDoe-dr9ff
    @JohnDoe-dr9ff Před rokem

    Units typically prioritize city over other units in most cases.

  • @Merdam9
    @Merdam9 Před 2 lety

    I loves this video

  • @votecthulhu9378
    @votecthulhu9378 Před 2 lety

    Love ya Ursa

  • @refinedbrass
    @refinedbrass Před 2 lety

    good vid made me facepalm a lot at some of your tactical maneuvers but over all fun so see you get wrecked so many times

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety

      Cheers! Yeah I needed a few goes on this one!

  • @pcscairo
    @pcscairo Před 2 lety +6

    The fact that it took 2 irl hours to get to turn 25 tho 😭

  • @Domkhxiii
    @Domkhxiii Před 2 lety

    That was too stressful haha

  • @Domkhxiii
    @Domkhxiii Před 2 lety

    Lovely France colour

  • @denisem.1042
    @denisem.1042 Před rokem

    You could call this the glutton for punishment start! 😂

  • @Lenny533
    @Lenny533 Před 2 lety

    Love your content Comeback 17

  • @marsman7997
    @marsman7997 Před 2 lety

    Going to be good

  • @tuindwergie
    @tuindwergie Před 2 lety

    Civ 6 became a puzzle game

  • @capt_red_beard
    @capt_red_beard Před 2 lety +1

    I’ve tried TSL as gilgabro with Persia next door. Went a lot like this

  • @spunkymonkey5102
    @spunkymonkey5102 Před 2 lety

    That’s a lot of damage

  • @craig3895
    @craig3895 Před 2 lety

    This was quite the episode. I was screaming "DECLARE WAR ON ENGLAND!" at my computer for like 5 minutes. I figure you'd have seen it earlier if you didn't love England so much.

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety

      I was blinded by my own loyalty!!!

  • @grubbinvgm
    @grubbinvgm Před 2 lety

    hell yea

  • @yoanngaben1247
    @yoanngaben1247 Před rokem

    Ahah a bit late to the party, but your start position is actually Bordeaux, capital of Aquitaine, so it is a nice alternative start. It makes a bit more sense than the Gauls in Auvergne, since Ambiorix represents the Belgian branch of the Gauls

  • @skettlez9732
    @skettlez9732 Před rokem

    If you declare war first and hold out for 10 turns no matter what the Ai accepts peace

  • @elwwws
    @elwwws Před 2 lety +1

    I love every video you post. A subscription a like and a comment aren't enough. I'll see what i can do about getting the family to give some love too

  • @tylerwilson8990
    @tylerwilson8990 Před rokem

    Bro gets more and more depressed as the video goes on. It breaks my heart

  • @feralcatgirl
    @feralcatgirl Před 2 lety +1

    also i wonder if it would be easier if gaul's tsl was "correct" (aduatuca is in modern belgium)
    maybe they would attack the netherlands first instead, and give you some more time?

  • @Michael_mki233
    @Michael_mki233 Před 2 lety +1

    This game is the perfect representation of the Googling _French Military Victories_ meme.

  • @supple7351
    @supple7351 Před 2 lety +1

    ‘being an adult sucks, i’m sure you all understand’
    me, 15 - 😁👍

  • @whyysobritish1805
    @whyysobritish1805 Před 2 lety

    Please try a TSL east Asia with Indonesia and apocalypse mode xD

  • @gabrielsd20
    @gabrielsd20 Před 2 lety

    Go Ursa

  • @drjonritz
    @drjonritz Před 2 lety

    if you'd crossed the river to build Paris, would Bibrax had flipped sooner? By the coast so there's less terrain to defend?

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety

      it would have flipped sooner, but the river was the only thing giving me the +5 defence against the Gaul horde - crossing would have been certain death!

  • @Reagankarr1
    @Reagankarr1 Před rokem +1

    Tsl med as England is the hardest imo

  • @sleepysofabear
    @sleepysofabear Před 2 lety +1

    Wahoo!

  • @Ailtir
    @Ailtir Před 2 lety

    You could trade some gpt for enough gold to buy a delegation.
    Settling on the wine too should help.

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před 2 lety +2

      yeah, they attacked through the delegation a few times, gave up on that one

  • @familievanopdorp397
    @familievanopdorp397 Před rokem

    We loce you ursa

  • @ArchetypeApollo
    @ArchetypeApollo Před 2 lety

    Gaze a tay is how I usually pronounce it

  • @nidhogg4890
    @nidhogg4890 Před rokem

    Anyone know what the “faith mod” is that he mentioned? I’d like to check it out

    • @UrsaRyan
      @UrsaRyan  Před rokem

      I keep a full list of all mods I use on discord = ) Swing by and check it out! Religions expanded I believe is the one you're looking for