Not only that, but if you ask him about veitnam and say it was hard, he is like what do you mean it was hard for you, wait what am i saying, you were there too.
@@bartosz9144 oh shit yh, for some reason i was thinking it was the CIA with Hudson interrogating Mason and shit. Tbh it was like 5am when I made that comment so I wasn’t rly thinking straight
@@bartosz9144 he got brainwashed in vorkuta by russians and they also made it so he would try to kill jfk but reznov uno reverse carded it and made it so he would try to kill kravchenko and steiner and dragovich
And also, aside from the fact that they're split, the American side is in the foreground, making it look like it's hiding the rest of the Russian side.
Yeah that's actually cool that they put that in. When I played once I decided not to eavesdrop on the phone call and when I asked what the phone call was he said it was Langley and nothing to worry about. It's pretty cool they coded the AI to make different responses depending on if you eavesdropped or not.
Which is surprising as Call of Duty npc’s don’t even notice the player most cases you have to place yourself in a set location for the character to seem like their talking to you lol Hell games like Halo life 2 and Halo 1 to 3 had npc’s which made eye contact with the protagonist and noticed where the player was even moving backwards to speak to the player... maybe Half Life spoiled us back in 2004 lol
@@masteryi3683 even though bell’s brainwashed he still doesn’t exactly trust him. They’re using mk ultra on him to manipulate bell into thinking he’s been a longtime ally of Adler. But at any moment bell can snap out of it and report back to his former superiors or go rogue. Adler doesn’t want to lose his pet I mean asset
If you pick an ex-KGB background you get a conversation with Lezar before the headquarters infiltration. He asks if you've ever been inside the KGB Headquarters before and your character says it's really strange that he can't remember. That is a huge red flag
If you pick MI6, you get a conversation with Adler with a dialogue choice that’s something like “Park seems familiar, how come we never crossed paths?”
@@alphaasianjosh damn, I had that KGB dialogue choice too but why did I never wonder how Bell couldnt remember anything about the headquarters? I must be stupid but one would never even think about being brainwashed and all
When I replayed I believe the third time you are at the basement with the evidence board and stuff, the dialogue with Adler changed unlike with any of the other characters. I talked to them again, all of them, to remember what they said, but ended up finding out that Adler tells a completely different story when you ask him about his scar. First, he said a tiger did that to him while hunting in Africa. When I replayed it, he claimed that he fell with the face down while jumping from buildings.
Funny enough the npc’s in call of duty games don’t have the ability to look or notice the player unlike Halo 1 to 3 and Half Life 2 you basically need to place yourself in the set location where you should be or the characters will be talking to the open air lol
@@spartacussmith7070 I have and in my experience only in set cutscenes where I can’t move the characters body for example being in a vehicle or after interacting with something. Ingame feels like the NPCs are on a set path unlike a game like Halo pre Halo 4 and Half Life 2 where they’ll look at the player and even walk backwards if you’re behind them all Call of Duty games suffer this this unfortunately but I do think MW has fantastic set animations it’s just funny when a character talks to you but you just ran pass the point where the developers want you to stand so it ends up with the character talking to the air.
@@CaptainAmercia if you play clean house, Price will follow your movements, and in the one with the butcher's family, Nikolai follows you as well. It's also noticeable in Black Ops 3 with Hendricks and Kane but that campaign was ass and one of the first to implement head tracking.
BO1: "The numbers, Mason. What do they're mean?" BO2: "Come suffer with me!" BO3: "Imagine you're in the frozen forest." BO: Cold War: "We've got a job to do."
Sims had a conversation that literally shows you you got brain washed. He talks about the vietnam thing and bell reply with "is weird, i felt like i was there but i dont remember much of it" and sims reply"what you talking about? We were awesome(or something like that) in there. Right there i Knew i was either a sleeping agent or brainwashed by Adler and his team.
yeah, as if reznov appearing in random places out of thin air with people asking you questions like "who are you talking to" didn't give you a hint something wasn't right
@@andrewp.8278 yea and also in usdd there was a LOT of screwy shit going on and if that didn’t hint to you that something wasn’t right then I don’t know what will
I'm pretty sure Bell is one of the Soviet bodies they grabbed out of the car. That being said, they were brainwashing him, so it makes sense that he had trust issues because they didn't know if Bell would turn on them.
Another small detail I appreciate is that the first time you enter the safehouse you get to toggle the stations on the radio beside Adler, if you toggle it enough a russian station comes up and after a few seconds Adler will scooch over and change the channel back to a Reagan speech or something like that
If you understand viet, those VC in the last mission when u decide to go right to the waterfall instead of left as Adler instructions, they were talking about Bell being brainwashed like they knew him before.
Adler moving around to see what you are doing is actually so damn awesome, i honestly didnt think treyarch/Raven would put something that insignificant in the game especially with the whole working situation
Fr and it's so realistic too like if someone doesn't trust u that well and u go to an unknown place the person that doesn't trust u is gonna come over to where you're at to look at u and see what you're doing that's neat!
Yeah but he had no point in doing that since it would just fail there mission and in anyways Bell was a Russian agent so i don't know if he'd have compassion for Bell's true self
Yeah, but I guess the rest of his team kept the distance in between them. That and this was the difference between life or death for millions of people if he just went along with it.
Midway through the campaign I noticed how often Adler would say “we’ve got a job to do” at the start of the missions. I immediately took it as a development flaw and now I feel stupid for not reading into it. It really is the insignificant things that matter.
There is one where if you talk to Lazar, he asked if you are feeling okay. Your character responds with yes why and he says that he shouldn't talk about it in front of Adler and see you later. There's a lot of hidden detail like this. Really interesting
And if you pick ex-KGB member as your past and talk to Lazar about entering the KGB he will ask you if you ever been there which bell will respond with : "Yes... I think, but I can't remember it's strange" Lazar will then say "I shouldn't be asking these questions, it's your old life, it's behind you now" Probably realising he's breaking bell's programming
Another sign could possibly be when Volkov says “you’re damaged goods”. I thought it was because I chose ex-KGB for my profile, then I found out at the end.
Well Volkov probably thinks you've "flipped". (swapped sides by choice) But then again if that was true he'd just kill you since you know the entire plan. So then Volkov and "Perseus" as a whole knows you've been MKed.
@@imisioluwalawal2945 I mean Volkov would have just straight up killed you. No interrogation. But *plot* demands he keeps you alive. I'm also not sure what killing the Brit spy is supposed to prove. Since you're either a willing traitor or you've been MKed and don't remember shit.
Even the part about "you bouncing checks again?" "Collections?" is definitely CIA code, most likely that indicates the call is urgent and from someone high up, maybe even Reagan himself.
If you say Vietnam was was rough after Ripcord, Sims will act shocked before going back on it and saying, "you were there just like everyone else." But the way he says it is a massive flag.
Another detail I noticed on a second run, the character creation menu's background is 4:59 from Adler's desk. The file you create is the one that one that Adler created for you.
An argument can be made that the inaccuracies in the first Vietnam mission (Fracture Jaw) was a huge hint, since the weaponry was ahead of it's time. Since Bell was never in Vietnam, he/she/they had no idea want kind of weapons were available at the time, and substituted with the weapons he has used or knows about to plug those gaps in his mind.
Also the fact that the firebase that was besieged in the mission (was a real firebase, and really was attacked) was actually attacked in 1970, not in 1968 like the game says. Operation Fracture Jaw ended a month or two after it started (in 1968). I think they got that timing right. Eitherway, they needed a reason for Bell to decrypt the Intel they captured when they got him (it's always a he when I play), so they created a Vietnam mission and cobbled together a bunch of facts to give Bell a reason to have the file without him realizing the real reason he had it. How would Intel from 1968 point out a gangster in 1981?
Dude, that part in the next to final mission where you're replaying a Vietnam battle, and you wander into the hide hole and fall into the zombie cave. That was legit scary
Jo Miles BRO that happened to me yesterday when I finished the campaign. I felt like I was in a horror game. I was scared shitless I’m not even gonna lie
I figured something was up when 'Bell' could mention he has trouble remembering Vietnam. Also I figured the name Bell probably tied into a pavlov dog experiment.
@@jackj9816 There's literally a moment just like that in Alien Isolation, when you pick up an item at the end of a long hallway and turnaround and there's a creepy Android just standing directly behind you and he says "can I help you?". Nearly pissed myself when that happened.
@@HOTD108_ Ah, yes, I remember that part. Great game, definitely a classic. You pick up a motion sensor in the engineering room at the end of a long hallway. When you pick up the motion sensor, you can bring it up and it pings motion behind you. You turn around and BAM! A Working Joe android asks you if you needed help haha. I wish SEGA would make a sequel, but they said because it didn't meet sales expectations they won't. Pricks.
"Bell, for real, I know you're a spy and everything but you don't have to do it here. Just trust me." >proceeds to spend every waking moment of time at base spying on Bell
Bro, the first time you walk back in the dark room, I happednt to look back through the door and saw Adler standing there staring straight at me for a few seconds. Honestly creeped me tf out. I had no idea what to make of it but it just felt weird. This was before I knew anything about eh story or plot twist too!
Goes to show that no matter what, you could never fully trust a Russian and a Russian could never fully trust you. That's why the good ending ended the way it did. Cold War must have a been a brutal time for all agents on both sides
Pissed that Mason wasn’t angry about the brainwashing of Bell [EDIT] It’s so cool how many of you have liked and started a discussion about this in the replies, love the opinions! Happy New Year all! To a hopefully bug free year for black ops cold war 08/02/2021 - And still my game is crashing mid zombies session on my series X. ):
He does act nicer to you though. Woods is somehow giving you the pissy attitudes. Guess he really didn't like 'Reds'. They most likey know about you getting brainwashed
Sims has a conversation that literally shows you you got brain washed. He talks about the vietnam thing and bell reply with "is weird, i felt like i was there but i dont remember much of it" and sims reply"what you talking about? We were awesome(or something like that) in there. Right there i Knew i was either a sleeping agent or brainwashed by Adler and his team.
I had my suspicions right out of the gate, being a bit of a Cold War nerd the way others are WW2 nerds. But the bit where Bell asks Lazar if he's ever been to the KGB HQ and then is unsure about whether or not he himself has actually been there made it click for me. My Bell was Ex-KGB 'cause I thought that'd be a more interesting background, so it seemed off that he wouldn't remember if he ever set foot in his own former headquarters.
I didn't think about brainwashing stuff, but I started to get suspicious when I was talking with Sims about the vietnam flashback and he says something like "you actually had a hard time remembering?"(something among these lines). The first thought that came to me was "weren't you reliving these memories just now?". Some dialogues with park were a bit odd as well. But I didn't think about brainwashing stuff, to me I was a sleeping agent
I already suspected shit mildly when or shortly before you "create" your Character and when Bell's file is thrown on the table or sliding a bit across it, and Adler says something like "Don't remind me, I gotta watch this one closely". It's ominous and could also just refer to you being new in the team and being watched to be judged as would be expected, but at the same time it implies mistrust and ... well here we are now.
ppl hating Adler don't understand how realistic this is, how much its close to the CIA behaviour, what he is doing is not bad, he is just doing his job, everyone in the CIA in today's world is doing EVERYTHING to get what they need , despite the causes
When I played the campaign I walked into the room and once I saw the tv I was like “huh that’s weird” and once I turn around and saw Adler staring at me I legit got goosebumps and mumbled “what the fuck” “somethings going on here”
I think Activision has a thing for giving us trust issues, almost every COD I’ve played, in the end the person you trust the most becomes your greatest enemy “Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer”
Man, the writers and the actor for Adler really did an amazing job creating the character. I easily trusted him and actually thought he cared for Bell...
You missed a moment of Adler watching you, when you into the back room where the locked door is next to his office in base, you can turn around and he is still watching you
I thought it was really strange that bell didn’t recognize Simms at first even though they “served together” in Vietnam then I understood why at the end
If you talk to sims about Vietnam and say it was tough for you he replies “oh really, it was tough for you? Oh wait, of course it was you were there the whole time”. It’s as if he knew you were being brainwashed but forgot you were on the mission with him
When I was exploring around the debriefing area for the first time, I went into the red room and saw the TV go off. That's when I started believing something wasn't right in the campaign. I must say I love how they added these small hints throughout the story. Great attention to detail ^^
There is something so ominous and creepy about this game and i don't know what it is. Like, BO1 dealt with the same subjects of brainwashing and manipulation of the main character but in that game it felt more like action sequences and plot (not that thats a bad thing) Here it almost felt like a horror game. I swear during the sequence where Adler is trying to get you to open the red door i almost forgot i was playing a CoD game. There was just something so surreal and just overall "off" about the whole thing. How characters acted around you and reacted to your actions. This game was great. A shame it was nearly as long as an old CoD campaing
When I replayed I believe the third time you are at the basement with the evidence board and stuff, the dialogue with Adler changed unlike with any of the other characters. I talked to them again, all of them, to remember what they said, but ended up finding out that Adler tells a completely different story when you ask him about his scar. First, he said a tiger did that to him while hunting in Africa. When I replayed it, he claimed that he fell with the face down while jumping from buildings during a mission years back. That man sure must have an interesting past
@Nefomemes this is internet and everything can be anime >:D cold war will soon but slowly turn anime like you cant stop anime! ze anime nation will attack anyone! >:D
Adler be like: *”WE GOT A JOB T-“* Bell a second after: “Nah, Ima head to the bunker and visit the lads.” EDIT: I see we are building Van Der Linde followers
@@LEGIONCABAL yeah but I'm sure both shot eachother in the end, meaning both probably survived, or less likely for Adler to survive since he probably would drown in the ocean behind him, or that's what you would believe until he comes back later on in the game in the next black ops. But the evil ending is a better path in my opinion, so much more satisfying.
I’d like to think they don’t strictly stick to the bo-mw19 universe (although bo1 events preceded BOCW), and in the next BO game the bad ending is cannon. In a Soviet influenced Europe, you play as Mason’s son joining the resistance, hunting Perseus, Bell, Zakhaev and Menendez who Perseus is helping attack US from the South.
@@thelastroman7791 maybe but we are talking about an ultranationalist soviet agent who has probably spend his whole life bathing in soviet propaganda, and opting to abandon the state who he thinks as "mediocre" and follow Perseus for his twisted version of New soviet era. Same with Mason from BO1, brainwash may be undone easier than u think
So bell had this meeting with Perseus before he got betrayed by that other guy Bell wouldn't give the info so Adler brainwashed bell making him to believe another story where he goes inside the red door and finds Perseus. Adler tries to connect the red door to a mission so bell can talk about it In reality bell entered the red door in their meeting which he met Perseus Who would put a red door in a cave anyways, of course it's Adler
Did you try to purposly do the OPPOSITE of what Adler was telling you to do in the brainwashing scenarios? He just starts slamming doors down everywhere
@@Brandon2940 I've seen gameplays where they disobey Adler's order to uncover the story. I also find disobeying Adler's order "dream like" since you can control your dreams by narrating it but one wrong move you could turn it to a nightmare. And no I couldn't get my hands on the game due to some issues But I hope soon I will
The "scar" Adler's face story is something we could see after Black Ops Cold War. Something about Adler's past secret. He keeps lying about facts how did he get it but its something really important, something could be related to Perseus.🤔 The next game hopefully could explain his past. Edit: Another thing, there is a hidden redeemer gun behind a painting board in Cuba, there is a picture of a woman is similar to Evelyn Cross ( The Numbers Lady from Black Ops 1 ; "the name is in the computer terminal in BO1 with her selfpicture").
@@jetskii7000 He has 3 different responses, same as if you ask him about the call without spying on him. He’s clearly lying, meaning the scar must have something to do with Perseus
I noticed Adler looking at me whenever I went into the darkroom and thought it was creepy af. I only realized I was being brainwashed after I took the wrong path every time in the Vietnam flashbacks, and once I kept hearing him say, "We've got a job to do." I figured it was some kind of sleeper cell code for me, and I was right.
I kind of wish there was a secret ending where you tell them the truth, but kill Adler and flee the entire scene. Instead of just killing them or accepting them.
Let’s just be honest here: Adler is the true main character of the game. Bell was just a pawn that played her part (or didn’t) Adler is one of the best CoD characters is recent memory and I will defend that statement to my grave.
Dave Norton I sided with Adler becasue I shared his goals to stop the nukes. But Adler still brainwashed bell/you for an asset and is a dirtbag that should be taken out. Good character & antagonist though.
I had my suspicions when after deciphering one of the codes, I asked Park if there were more clues to be found, she said I'd know because I spent two hours looking through them, and one of the dialogie options was like Bell was super confused and couldn't remember doing it.
Don't know if anyone said it already or not but there is a TV in the German mission when you go inside the house to bug the briefcase that also shows the Vietnam flashback.
Bell can be either be whatever is in your mind. Just like Roach, they're both player-determined. Meaning its up to you to decide your character's fate will be.
Sims: “what? You think everything’s about you now?” Bell: Well I'm the new main character so....”
Jajaja
Not only that, but if you ask him about veitnam and say it was hard, he is like what do you mean it was hard for you, wait what am i saying, you were there too.
I'll vote for park i think she's sus
I love sims lmao
Adler says not for long
bell: *goes into the dark room*
adler:🧍♂️
Thx Johnny 👍🏻
Came here to comment this 😭
They way he was standing there like-😭
What your fridge sees at 3am
that is remarkably creepy
As Reznov once said”the flags may be different but the methods stay the same”
But it was only the Americans who brainwashed, so the flags are the same
@@bacon_0472 mason is brainwashed in Black ops by russians :/
@@bartosz9144 oh shit yh, for some reason i was thinking it was the CIA with Hudson interrogating Mason and shit. Tbh it was like 5am when I made that comment so I wasn’t rly thinking straight
@@bacon_0472 no problem ;)
@@bartosz9144 he got brainwashed in vorkuta by russians and they also made it so he would try to kill jfk but reznov uno reverse carded it and made it so he would try to kill kravchenko and steiner and dragovich
The cover art of Cold War shows a soldier split in half Russian half American soldier outfits, hinting at the dual persona of Bell.
Ohhh shit
What about the zombie one?
And also, aside from the fact that they're split, the American side is in the foreground, making it look like it's hiding the rest of the Russian side.
The soldier actually looks like Hudson
@ILikeDoomAndBlood aka Mr Wolfy 2.0 Bell is the most fleshed out Cardboard protagonist in cod
It’s actually interesting if you don’t eavesdrop on the phone call he tells you it was some overdue books
Yeah, I noticed that too
He told me that they wanted to make sure that Park didn't killed Lazar lol 😂
Yeah ik right 😂
Yeah that's actually cool that they put that in. When I played once I decided not to eavesdrop on the phone call and when I asked what the phone call was he said it was Langley and nothing to worry about. It's pretty cool they coded the AI to make different responses depending on if you eavesdropped or not.
Reply 5, as bo6 would say, the truth lies
That detail where Adler gets up and inspects Bell in the darkroom is remarkable
Which is surprising as Call of Duty npc’s don’t even notice the player most cases you have to place yourself in a set location for the character to seem like their talking to you lol Hell games like Halo life 2 and Halo 1 to 3 had npc’s which made eye contact with the protagonist and noticed where the player was even moving backwards to speak to the player... maybe Half Life spoiled us back in 2004 lol
Yeah, I like that part. Haven’t experienced it firsthand but it’s really ominous how he’s staring at you when you turn around.
But why did he go check on him
@@masteryi3683 even though bell’s brainwashed he still doesn’t exactly trust him. They’re using mk ultra on him to manipulate bell into thinking he’s been a longtime ally of Adler. But at any moment bell can snap out of it and report back to his former superiors or go rogue. Adler doesn’t want to lose his pet I mean asset
@@gustini2146 so hes basically checking on him to make sure nothings changed and he isn't plotting against them?
Adler is the most 80's looking person I've ever seen
Arash (the 80s disco bad guy in Turkey) is more 80s looking to me
I think that’s because he was modeled after a young Robert Redford.
Looks more 70’s tbh
@Cucumber Cat you'll never believe what year it takes place in
@@wcw2793 I thought he looked a lot like Brad Pitt in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
If you pick an ex-KGB background you get a conversation with Lezar before the headquarters infiltration. He asks if you've ever been inside the KGB Headquarters before and your character says it's really strange that he can't remember. That is a huge red flag
If you pick MI6, you get a conversation with Adler with a dialogue choice that’s something like “Park seems familiar, how come we never crossed paths?”
@@alphaasianjosh damn, I had that KGB dialogue choice too but why did I never wonder how Bell couldnt remember anything about the headquarters? I must be stupid but one would never even think about being brainwashed and all
Huge red flag? Does it have a hammer and sickle?
@@anameorsomething894 LMAO, very clever
@@alphaasianjosh no I had that dialogue as well even with CIA
The tv’s creeped me out, I didn’t think anything of it at first
Adler staring at bell got me completely oof
@@officialmajonaise5918 when you are in the drug trip at the end and you see Adlers head being mangled that shit spooked me
Some shit straight out of a horror film
When I replayed I believe the third time you are at the basement with the evidence board and stuff, the dialogue with Adler changed unlike with any of the other characters. I talked to them again, all of them, to remember what they said, but ended up finding out that Adler tells a completely different story when you ask him about his scar. First, he said a tiger did that to him while hunting in Africa. When I replayed it, he claimed that he fell with the face down while jumping from buildings.
@@TypicalMan like Jacobs ladder monsters.
I like to think Bell just staring at people randomly is a side effect of being brain washed
Funny enough the npc’s in call of duty games don’t have the ability to look or notice the player unlike Halo 1 to 3 and Half Life 2 you basically need to place yourself in the set location where you should be or the characters will be talking to the open air lol
@@CaptainAmercia That had almost nothing to do with what he said
Jedi Mandalore have you not played Modern Warfare? The characters will literally look to you when delivering dialogue...
@@spartacussmith7070 I have and in my experience only in set cutscenes where I can’t move the characters body for example being in a vehicle or after interacting with something. Ingame feels like the NPCs are on a set path unlike a game like Halo pre Halo 4 and Half Life 2 where they’ll look at the player and even walk backwards if you’re behind them all Call of Duty games suffer this this unfortunately but I do think MW has fantastic set animations it’s just funny when a character talks to you but you just ran pass the point where the developers want you to stand so it ends up with the character talking to the air.
@@CaptainAmercia if you play clean house, Price will follow your movements, and in the one with the butcher's family, Nikolai follows you as well. It's also noticeable in Black Ops 3 with Hendricks and Kane but that campaign was ass and one of the first to implement head tracking.
"We got a job to do." reminds me of another phrase used for brainwashing......
"Would you kindly?"
I will... oh wait.
Bioshock is so damn good
N U T 🔥🔥🔥
“A man chooses, a slave obeys.”
OH FUCK
BO1: "The numbers, Mason. What do they're mean?"
BO2: "Come suffer with me!"
BO3: "Imagine you're in the frozen forest."
BO: Cold War: "We've got a job to do."
Bo4: 👁👄👁
Train go boom
B05: RAMIREZZZZZ GET TO BURGER TOWN
Remove BO3 of the list. It doesn't exist.
@@Toocoolforschool573
That would explain a lot of MW2's events, honestly...
So Black Ops Cold War showed signs of brainwash before the revelation. Plus, the first black ops did that a lot twisted without you knowing
Sims had a conversation that literally shows you you got brain washed. He talks about the vietnam thing and bell reply with "is weird, i felt like i was there but i dont remember much of it" and sims reply"what you talking about? We were awesome(or something like that) in there.
Right there i Knew i was either a sleeping agent or brainwashed by Adler and his team.
yeah, as if reznov appearing in random places out of thin air with people asking you questions like "who are you talking to" didn't give you a hint something wasn't right
@@andrewp.8278 Tell me again, is reznov a image form his head or a sign of manipulation?
@@ianfudo5040 yea i thought it was really was weird when i heard that. Not to mention hudsons snide comments to you
@@andrewp.8278 yea and also in usdd there was a LOT of screwy shit going on and if that didn’t hint to you that something wasn’t right then I don’t know what will
The “trust issues” part creeped me out. He was just staring at you
I mean, you did the same to everyone else by listening to conversations
Never actually noticed adler doing that until this video. Extremely creepy
“He’s just standing there... MENACINGLY!”
I'm pretty sure Bell is one of the Soviet bodies they grabbed out of the car. That being said, they were brainwashing him, so it makes sense that he had trust issues because they didn't know if Bell would turn on them.
Another small detail I appreciate is that the first time you enter the safehouse you get to toggle the stations on the radio beside Adler, if you toggle it enough a russian station comes up and after a few seconds Adler will scooch over and change the channel back to a Reagan speech or something like that
Lmao I thought it was funny when he switched it
If they had dialogue just for that
>Why'd you switch channels?
"Mexican music... Not my type."
Someone should translate it then
@@someoneidontknow4734 point me to a video of the speech and I'll translate it. I don't own the game
What? Honestly I knew about the radio but I didn't know that could happen
If you understand viet, those VC in the last mission when u decide to go right to the waterfall instead of left as Adler instructions, they were talking about Bell being brainwashed like they knew him before.
*what*
That’s insane
That whole mission I knew there had to be something like that
Mad if only I spoke Vietnamese, but thats a sick detail
That's so cool
what about a video called "every time adler says we've got a job to do"
the game kinda does that at the end, i guess i could do after these other vids im trying to work on
@@AFGuidesHD that would be cool
@@AFGuidesHD just do that one scene for 10minutes
Adler is the new sgt foley lol
@@ligma6940 Ramirez, get to the Burger Town. Take out those choppers!
Adler moving around to see what you are doing is actually so damn awesome, i honestly didnt think treyarch/Raven would put something that insignificant in the game especially with the whole working situation
Treyarch didnt do that...
@@enderz8398 stfu
Fr and it's so realistic too like if someone doesn't trust u that well and u go to an unknown place the person that doesn't trust u is gonna come over to where you're at to look at u and see what you're doing that's neat!
Right? I only noticed it a lil bit in the dark room. Felt very unsettling, because it's actually kinda realistic
@@enderz8398 yes they did
Wouldve been cool if Mason tried to stop them from playing with Bell's mind because he understood what that felt like.
Yeah but he had no point in doing that since it would just fail there mission and in anyways Bell was a Russian agent so i don't know if he'd have compassion for Bell's true self
Yeah, but I guess the rest of his team kept the distance in between them. That and this was the difference between life or death for millions of people if he just went along with it.
Well millions of Europeans lives were on the line so if he had stoped bell he'd have essentially killed all of europe
Well, Hudson was the only opposing Adler's plot. Not for moral reason, it was for doubting the efficiency of using a brainwashed soviet.
"No matter the country, the method are still the same."
-reznov
Midway through the campaign I noticed how often Adler would say “we’ve got a job to do” at the start of the missions. I immediately took it as a development flaw and now I feel stupid for not reading into it. It really is the insignificant things that matter.
Just like in bioshock, "would you kindly?"
The TV turn on by it self is the most scarry thing in this game but is s Easter egg
There is one where if you talk to Lazar, he asked if you are feeling okay. Your character responds with yes why and he says that he shouldn't talk about it in front of Adler and see you later. There's a lot of hidden detail like this. Really interesting
And if you pick ex-KGB member as your past and talk to Lazar about entering the KGB he will ask you if you ever been there which bell will respond with : "Yes... I think, but I can't remember it's strange"
Lazar will then say "I shouldn't be asking these questions, it's your old life, it's behind you now"
Probably realising he's breaking bell's programming
@@zaer-ezart I was M16 and bell keeps saying he swears he knows her from somewhere and she pauses then says she’s seen him in London
When the Mossad agent is the moral one...
Yeah, that’s the reason I saved Lazar over Park. He was the only one on the team that treated you like a human and not like a lab-rat experiment.
@@leogarcia8640 ikr everyone else treats bell like some sort of science experiment while lazar actually treats you like a normal human
That bit when you turn around and adler is there is weird
that was lowkey kinda creepy ngl :D
@@orangeknightball3539 your boss at work when you talking to much
Time stamp?
@@captainprice3715 2:27 2:32
That adler be like: just standing, *SUSPICIOUSLY*
Another sign could possibly be when Volkov says “you’re damaged goods”. I thought it was because I chose ex-KGB for my profile, then I found out at the end.
Well Volkov probably thinks you've "flipped". (swapped sides by choice) But then again if that was true he'd just kill you since you know the entire plan. So then Volkov and "Perseus" as a whole knows you've been MKed.
@@marcusromulus5646 He was about to kill you though, but good point
@@imisioluwalawal2945 I mean Volkov would have just straight up killed you. No interrogation. But *plot* demands he keeps you alive. I'm also not sure what killing the Brit spy is supposed to prove. Since you're either a willing traitor or you've been MKed and don't remember shit.
"Doc, I think you want this one" that's definitely a code phrase, like "we've got a job to do" very nice subtlety
Even the part about
"you bouncing checks again?"
"Collections?"
is definitely CIA code, most likely that indicates the call is urgent and from someone high up, maybe even Reagan himself.
Adler: secretly talking about bell
Bell: 👁 👄 👁
He could hear everything
The emojis made it unfunny, (dislike)
@@gjte2947 fr
@@liamclarkpiano4559 what tf is reddit
@@liamclarkpiano4559 oh nvm I just realized
You missed the one where sims is super hostile to Bell for talking about Vietnam with him before the Vietnam mission
Sims also has a line were he 'forgets' bell was in Vietnam with him to experience the trauma.
That's only if you joked about it
If you say Vietnam was was rough after Ripcord, Sims will act shocked before going back on it and saying, "you were there just like everyone else." But the way he says it is a massive flag.
Another detail I noticed on a second run, the character creation menu's background is 4:59 from Adler's desk. The file you create is the one that one that Adler created for you.
That’s legit
An argument can be made that the inaccuracies in the first Vietnam mission (Fracture Jaw) was a huge hint, since the weaponry was ahead of it's time. Since Bell was never in Vietnam, he/she/they had no idea want kind of weapons were available at the time, and substituted with the weapons he has used or knows about to plug those gaps in his mind.
Also the fact that the firebase that was besieged in the mission (was a real firebase, and really was attacked) was actually attacked in 1970, not in 1968 like the game says. Operation Fracture Jaw ended a month or two after it started (in 1968). I think they got that timing right.
Eitherway, they needed a reason for Bell to decrypt the Intel they captured when they got him (it's always a he when I play), so they created a Vietnam mission and cobbled together a bunch of facts to give Bell a reason to have the file without him realizing the real reason he had it.
How would Intel from 1968 point out a gangster in 1981?
>they
Autism
@@hirohige2.028I'm pretty sure it's because in cold war you can select bell to be "non-binary"
I don't think many people in 1981 went by "they" especially KGB soviets 😂
@@madminer8041They did? Show me proof
I think Activision would be very good at making horror games.
That would be nuts, isnt treyarch the devs tho?
this is treyarch! play world at war, true war crimes and horror of war!
Dude, that part in the next to final mission where you're replaying a Vietnam battle, and you wander into the hide hole and fall into the zombie cave. That was legit scary
Jo Miles BRO that happened to me yesterday when I finished the campaign. I felt like I was in a horror game. I was scared shitless I’m not even gonna lie
The campaign was made by raven software, multiplayer is developed by treyarch
i knew something was up whenever you walked towards a tv and it would turn off.
Ngl at first I thought Bell was just having Vietnam flashbacks or something.
@@lenzi5119 that’s what I thought to they did an amazing job w the story
it felt kinda rushed but great story overall
@@kremit2578 everyone saying the same shit that the story was rushed lmao; start thinking on your own kids
@@Joespart9010 I finished the story 100% in realistic in less than 6 hours, so for me it was too short
I figured something was up when 'Bell' could mention he has trouble remembering Vietnam. Also I figured the name Bell probably tied into a pavlov dog experiment.
Wow I didn’t even catch that good stuff
Yeah, after BO1 I've always been trying to figure out the twist angles.
2:28 that is creepy as hell omg lmao
Imagine he was like 2 feet behind you fucking hell
@@jackj9816 There's literally a moment just like that in Alien Isolation, when you pick up an item at the end of a long hallway and turnaround and there's a creepy Android just standing directly behind you and he says "can I help you?". Nearly pissed myself when that happened.
@@HOTD108_ fuck that
@@HOTD108_ Ah, yes, I remember that part. Great game, definitely a classic. You pick up a motion sensor in the engineering room at the end of a long hallway. When you pick up the motion sensor, you can bring it up and it pings motion behind you. You turn around and BAM! A Working Joe android asks you if you needed help haha. I wish SEGA would make a sequel, but they said because it didn't meet sales expectations they won't. Pricks.
Why was he starting at him
"Bell, for real, I know you're a spy and everything but you don't have to do it here. Just trust me."
>proceeds to spend every waking moment of time at base spying on Bell
Bro, the first time you walk back in the dark room, I happednt to look back through the door and saw Adler standing there staring straight at me for a few seconds. Honestly creeped me tf out. I had no idea what to make of it but it just felt weird. This was before I knew anything about eh story or plot twist too!
Jo Miles like what happened at 2:34?
@@parsashirali8957 yeah that's the scene I was talking about
Goes to show that no matter what, you could never fully trust a Russian and a Russian could never fully trust you. That's why the good ending ended the way it did.
Cold War must have a been a brutal time for all agents on both sides
I love the physics they gave to adlers hair 😂, it's so floppy
Yeah I can’t stop looking there
Hahahahhahah
Jiggle physics
When you lie to Adler at the end you can ambush him and say: “I’ve got a job to do” then a crazy Russian guy shoots a rocket towards you 💀💀
Bell: What poppin
Adler: Don't mind me just watching
Pissed that Mason wasn’t angry about the brainwashing of Bell
[EDIT]
It’s so cool how many of you have liked and started a discussion about this in the replies, love the opinions! Happy New Year all! To a hopefully bug free year for black ops cold war
08/02/2021 - And still my game is crashing mid zombies session on my series X. ):
Yea you'd think he'd be against it
@@cheeseburgerdan1457 yeah not even a mention from him. They proper pushed woods and mason to one side for this campaign it’s annoying..
He does act nicer to you though. Woods is somehow giving you the pissy attitudes. Guess he really didn't like 'Reds'. They most likey know about you getting brainwashed
@@keiichimesinaseki Yeah he kinda does. I think it’s very neutral though, in general story just felt very rushed
He wasn’t brainwashed they planted fake memories so basically things that didn’t happen
Sims has a conversation that literally shows you you got brain washed. He talks about the vietnam thing and bell reply with "is weird, i felt like i was there but i dont remember much of it" and sims reply"what you talking about? We were awesome(or something like that) in there.
Right there i Knew i was either a sleeping agent or brainwashed by Adler and his team.
Honestly, the first hint I got was on the character selection screen. Didn't seem right that you could pick ex-kgb as a character background
For me it was when park told us that we decoded the intel from the Vietnam mission
Wow... I'm blind as hell and didn't realize until it was too late when that ohrase kept getting repeated lol
I had my suspicions right out of the gate, being a bit of a Cold War nerd the way others are WW2 nerds. But the bit where Bell asks Lazar if he's ever been to the KGB HQ and then is unsure about whether or not he himself has actually been there made it click for me. My Bell was Ex-KGB 'cause I thought that'd be a more interesting background, so it seemed off that he wouldn't remember if he ever set foot in his own former headquarters.
I didn't think about brainwashing stuff, but I started to get suspicious when I was talking with Sims about the vietnam flashback and he says something like "you actually had a hard time remembering?"(something among these lines). The first thought that came to me was "weren't you reliving these memories just now?". Some dialogues with park were a bit odd as well. But I didn't think about brainwashing stuff, to me I was a sleeping agent
I already suspected shit mildly when or shortly before you "create" your Character and when Bell's file is thrown on the table or sliding a bit across it, and Adler says something like "Don't remind me, I gotta watch this one closely". It's ominous and could also just refer to you being new in the team and being watched to be judged as would be expected, but at the same time it implies mistrust and ... well here we are now.
It’s Hudson who’s says about watching but u r right, it’s kinda sus
I love whenever Adler says: "We have been through the hell of Vietnam together" idk why but the way he says it makes me feel like i was even there
Isn’t that the point?
Say what you want about Adler you have to admit he has some fresh threads throughout the game
Edit: glad he's back
Haha that's exactly what I'm thinking during my playthrough.
ppl hating Adler don't understand how realistic this is, how much its close to the CIA behaviour, what he is doing is not bad, he is just doing his job, everyone in the CIA in today's world is doing EVERYTHING to get what they need , despite the causes
@@yakro3449 how can you confirm that it's actually realistic?
@@AarushAgarwal He's a CIA agent, i can confirm it, i work with him
@@yakro3449 now imagine if the victim was you or a relative. Would you still think th same ?
Dude Adler has to be hands down one of the best characters we have had in a cod game in a long time.
Couldn't agree more
Yo fr
He's alright
I want to like your comment, but you're at 115 lol
Fr but Captain price is better
When I played the campaign I walked into the room and once I saw the tv I was like “huh that’s weird” and once I turn around and saw Adler staring at me I legit got goosebumps and mumbled “what the fuck” “somethings going on here”
I went into the red room and saw Adler staring at me then walked away. Then I knew something was up
Bro i shut off my xbox cause i got so scared lmao
My man blew up since cold war release. Preach!!
its because i pray to youtube gods
@@AndrewReed420 not always but yah youtube dumps me for half the year then in november spams my videos to everyone. its nice tho.
@@AFGuidesHD proud of u tho
Black ops : The Numbers Mason.What do they mean?
Black ops 2: Woods, Woods what happend to Panama? tell me.
Cold War :We have a job to do.
bo 3 had "you still with me?"
Bo3: Train go boom
@@bigheadgamer2k Advance Warfare: Exo Go Boom
Infinite Warfare: Planet Go boom
Cod4/MWR: City Go Boom
MW2: Airport Go Boom
MW3: Helicopter Go Boom
I think Activision has a thing for giving us trust issues, almost every COD I’ve played, in the end the person you trust the most becomes your greatest enemy
“Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer”
Price being an exception
If you know about reinforcement and conditioning, the codename "Bell" was a tell, too.
Ivan Pavlov and classical conditioning. Psychology 101. Nice.
Bell: *Sees Park*
Bell: *Gets some condoms from the shop*
Adler: Bell, what are these for??
Bell: I've got a job to do...
underrated lmaoo😂
*Angry Lazar Noises*
lazer in the dark corner : ive trusted you..😓
@@banditoshockydrugs4627 hehehe...I wanna fuck Park...
@@hamilton_reacts most of us wanted too-
It’s scary how much televisions are used for mindcontrol in these games.
So phones are just the pocket version? That's the most inconspicuous boomer shit I've ever seen
Stfu that’s completely not true TV’s in games are just TVs foh
@@allahjustice8893 they use TVs in the story as a medium in which they brainwash characters.
Makes you think......what do we consume on a day to day basis without critical thought?
Man, the writers and the actor for Adler really did an amazing job creating the character. I easily trusted him and actually thought he cared for Bell...
2:30 the detail of Adler checking to se what you are doing there is so cool and borderline creepy it might be my favourite in the game.
You missed a moment of Adler watching you, when you into the back room where the locked door is next to his office in base, you can turn around and he is still watching you
"Bell. We've got a job to do"
ON YOUR FEET COMRADE
The little glance from Alder when you go into that backroom is definitely really cool small detail
I thought it was really strange that bell didn’t recognize Simms at first even though they “served together” in Vietnam then I understood why at the end
2:34 : Prowler theme Intensifies
If you talk to sims about Vietnam and say it was tough for you he replies “oh really, it was tough for you? Oh wait, of course it was you were there the whole time”. It’s as if he knew you were being brainwashed but forgot you were on the mission with him
When I was exploring around the debriefing area for the first time, I went into the red room and saw the TV go off. That's when I started believing something wasn't right in the campaign. I must say I love how they added these small hints throughout the story. Great attention to detail ^^
There is something so ominous and creepy about this game and i don't know what it is.
Like, BO1 dealt with the same subjects of brainwashing and manipulation of the main character but in that game it felt more like action sequences and plot (not that thats a bad thing)
Here it almost felt like a horror game. I swear during the sequence where Adler is trying to get you to open the red door i almost forgot i was playing a CoD game. There was just something so surreal and just overall "off" about the whole thing. How characters acted around you and reacted to your actions. This game was great. A shame it was nearly as long as an old CoD campaing
Idk why, that red door just gives me anxiety now.
I see a red door and I want to paint it black.
The whole brainwash thing kinda reminded me of the brainwashing in Far Cry 5, that trained you to infiltrate and take down the Rebel leader.
Sims calling Adler "Doc" its very exposing
There's a b e l l sound whenever the TVs turn on
Spoky mtnh
When I replayed I believe the third time you are at the basement with the evidence board and stuff, the dialogue with Adler changed unlike with any of the other characters. I talked to them again, all of them, to remember what they said, but ended up finding out that Adler tells a completely different story when you ask him about his scar. First, he said a tiger did that to him while hunting in Africa. When I replayed it, he claimed that he fell with the face down while jumping from buildings during a mission years back. That man sure must have an interesting past
Interesting, adler told me he got in with the wrong crowd and the girl wasn't worth it lol
Tbh falling from a building and getting glass shards into you is more plausible than a tiger attack. So is the woman being not worth it story too.
One thing ive noticed is that adler treats bell like a kid. Like its his son. Which kinda makes sense cuz the identity of bell was almost his doing
When I saw the trailer for Cold War with Adler in it I already knew the dude was sus
bell is the sus one not adler
@@jetskii7000 i mean...literally everyone in the black ops universe is shifty
Same when I first saw him I thought he he would be Perseus but overall he’s sketchy asf
Thats facts i thought he would be perseus himself
“Oh look, it’s evil Robert Redford.”
That chime when the TVs turn on will haunt me forever
When adler was watching bell go to the room adler gave me the chills lol
why i always imagine that bell is just someone cute and adorable, clueless.
and they treating him like that because bell is younger
well adler calls bell "kid" after all
@@basicallyafilipino i imagine bell like anime protagonist who just got reincarnated and well.. things dont go very well
MikaYuu😳
My Bell headcanon is literally just a tiny female blondie
(A. Watson)
@Nefomemes this is internet and everything can be anime >:D
cold war will soon but slowly turn anime like
you cant stop anime! ze anime nation will attack anyone! >:D
WHEN THE ADLER IS SUS! 😳
In the character creation menu you can see the interrogation room in the background.
“He just standing there... MENACINGLY!” 2:33
🤣🤣🤣
He was like: wachu doing there bud👁👄👁
HE'S THE MANIAC 🤣🤣🤣
Also bell: *stares menacingly* ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ
Lmao Patrick quote
When the TV turned on at base, i legit thought my game was bugging out, gotta credit Raven Software on one of the best campaigns to date
Not the best IMO. But it was certainly creative and appealing in regards to the main storyline.
Soon as I heard him say “we should keep an eye on this one” I was a bit sus but then I completely forgot and figured I was a good guy
Is pretty neat how every time Bell experiences a cognitive distortions event like the TV you hear a chime of a bell.
During the phone I call I was just expecting Adler to look up and see bell just standing there looking in with a neutral expression on his face
Adler be like: *”WE GOT A JOB T-“*
Bell a second after: “Nah, Ima head to the bunker and visit the lads.”
EDIT: I see we are building Van Der Linde followers
What is John marston doing at cold war
Adler: "We've got a job to do"
Bell: "Nope"
*end credits*
😂😂😂
Adler : "we got a job to do"
Bell: nope .
Just one more train robbery John
I know the good guy ending is best, but I think the evil one would be the one that happens. Mess with my brain like that and you def become my enemy 😂
Yeah but sadly, the good guy ending has to be canon, otherwise the games that come after chronologically dont make sense
@@LEGIONCABAL yeah but I'm sure both shot eachother in the end, meaning both probably survived, or less likely for Adler to survive since he probably would drown in the ocean behind him, or that's what you would believe until he comes back later on in the game in the next black ops. But the evil ending is a better path in my opinion, so much more satisfying.
I’d like to think they don’t strictly stick to the bo-mw19 universe (although bo1 events preceded BOCW), and in the next BO game the bad ending is cannon. In a Soviet influenced Europe, you play as Mason’s son joining the resistance, hunting Perseus, Bell, Zakhaev and Menendez who Perseus is helping attack US from the South.
You’d be surprised how easily people can become friendly with their brain washers and tormentors.
@@thelastroman7791 maybe but we are talking about an ultranationalist soviet agent who has probably spend his whole life bathing in soviet propaganda, and opting to abandon the state who he thinks as "mediocre" and follow Perseus for his twisted version of New soviet era. Same with Mason from BO1, brainwash may be undone easier than u think
So bell had this meeting with Perseus before he got betrayed by that other guy
Bell wouldn't give the info so Adler brainwashed bell making him to believe another story where he goes inside the red door and finds Perseus.
Adler tries to connect the red door to a mission so bell can talk about it
In reality bell entered the red door in their meeting which he met Perseus
Who would put a red door in a cave anyways, of course it's Adler
Did you try to purposly do the OPPOSITE of what Adler was telling you to do in the brainwashing scenarios? He just starts slamming doors down everywhere
@@Brandon2940 I've seen gameplays where they disobey Adler's order to uncover the story. I also find disobeying Adler's order "dream like" since you can control your dreams by narrating it but one wrong move you could turn it to a nightmare. And no I couldn't get my hands on the game due to some issues
But I hope soon I will
When the guy said: "But you are damaged goods" (not in this video) it did make so much sense after the whole thing as been revealed.
Adler: 👁👄👁
Bell: 👁👅👁
Why people liked this shit comment?
@@Salieri01 wasn’t shit
The "scar" Adler's face story is something we could see after Black Ops Cold War. Something about Adler's past secret. He keeps lying about facts how did he get it but its something really important, something could be related to Perseus.🤔 The next game hopefully could explain his past.
Edit: Another thing, there is a hidden redeemer gun behind a painting board in Cuba, there is a picture of a woman is similar to Evelyn Cross ( The Numbers Lady from Black Ops 1 ; "the name is in the computer terminal in BO1 with her selfpicture").
if you talk to him after park tells you not to ask him, in the next safe house visit, He will tell you how he got them.
@@jetskii7000 He has 3 different responses, same as if you ask him about the call without spying on him. He’s clearly lying, meaning the scar must have something to do with Perseus
Yeah but with lie ending you kill them all, and in the next COD it's probably gonna assume you picked the lie ending so everyone's gonna be dead.
@@killerqueen6054 oh i know hes lying its obvious but i was just saying that he does give an answer even if its true or not.
@@SabotageLuke no the lie ending isn’t canon meaning it didn’t actually happen
I noticed Adler looking at me whenever I went into the darkroom and thought it was creepy af. I only realized I was being brainwashed after I took the wrong path every time in the Vietnam flashbacks, and once I kept hearing him say, "We've got a job to do." I figured it was some kind of sleeper cell code for me, and I was right.
I kind of wish there was a secret ending where you tell them the truth, but kill Adler and flee the entire scene. Instead of just killing them or accepting them.
Yay, this is the only channel I stick on such of various COD videos... HAPPY ONE MILL CONGRATS 🥳🥳
Add horror music to adler watch you enter the red room it makes it scary af
Adler, just like Wesker, wears shades all the time, villain confirmed
Let’s just be honest here:
Adler is the true main character of the game. Bell was just a pawn that played her part (or didn’t)
Adler is one of the best CoD characters is recent memory and I will defend that statement to my grave.
Juan John So you would probably want world destruction?
Dave Norton I sided with Adler becasue I shared his goals to stop the nukes.
But Adler still brainwashed bell/you for an asset and is a dirtbag that should be taken out. Good character & antagonist though.
Nicholas Reiss true
Just like BO 1 is Hudson story told from Alex Mason perspective.
BOCW is Adler story told from Bell perspective.
Tv: plays Vietnam shots from the Vietnam war
Bell: *sprays down the television*
You cannot tell me that Adler standing there watching you is not the creepiest shit ever
3:03 Mason went through the same thing when he was in the Pentagon bunker meeting Kennedy.
I had my suspicions when after deciphering one of the codes, I asked Park if there were more clues to be found, she said I'd know because I spent two hours looking through them, and one of the dialogie options was like Bell was super confused and couldn't remember doing it.
That shit scared me when Adler spying on him🤣
Don't know if anyone said it already or not but there is a TV in the German mission when you go inside the house to bug the briefcase that also shows the Vietnam flashback.
I think this cod game is up there with the twist and mind blowing moments
2:22 Ok, now that I noticed Adler stalks you, it's actually creepy...
"Adler is an Impostor"
"0 Impostor remaining"
@Paulo MartínezV Well, I can't make those starry background of Impostor got ejected, this is the best I can do.
"bell"
Dead game don’t reference it
@@docherty0447 Don't you mean Fall Guys?
@Paulo MartínezV exactly
I like how when you get close to a TV a sound that sounds like a bell plays.
So that “Big Red Door” leak from a lifetime ago makes sense now I suppose.
0:46 Adler was definitely talking about Bell, when I played as female Adler said her
Bell can be either be whatever is in your mind. Just like Roach, they're both player-determined. Meaning its up to you to decide your character's fate will be.