Nikon Z8 - The 8K Raw Camera We All Overlooked.

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024

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  • @cammackey
    @cammackey Před 2 měsíci +22

    Literally the most underrated mirrorless camera. If only it had open gate.. it’d be glue to my hands.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Opengate would be so good. There’s so much more sensor. Gimmie timecode data without an audio track being used and I’ll be super happy.

    • @darrenorange2982
      @darrenorange2982 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ScottBalkum Timecode is the only reason I won't consider any of the cameras.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      It can be done, you just sacrifice the audio channel

    • @waveland
      @waveland Před 2 měsíci

      @@darrenorange2982The Ultrasync Blue from Atomos will provide a timecode feed which doesn’t tie up an audio channel.

    • @PastorCory
      @PastorCory Před 2 měsíci +1

      Who is to say open gate isn't coming in an update?

  • @joshkiddfilms1295
    @joshkiddfilms1295 Před 2 měsíci +9

    I own both Z8 and Z63 and in my testing, and I did the whole aim both at a window type thing, set the zebras to 100, and compared when they disappear on each camera...both the z8 and z63 showed the zebras going away at the exact same aperture. People seem to be making.a big deal about z63 dynamic range, but honestly I can't see a measurable difference between these two bodies.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +3

      The Z6iii does have much less DR than the Z8. Its important to use the camera as best as it can. So, if something has less DR, add some light, if, exposing the window matters. As far as your test, that’s not exactly a scientific test. But, that doesn’t mean its bad. Its just not directly comparable. The important thing is that you love the images out of the camera the way you shoot. We all shot with cameras with way less DR than any of these in the past so we’re all getting kinda spoiled. I’m the first to admit RED spoiled the heck out of me and I can’t love stepping backwards, but I do it as needed.

    • @joshkiddfilms1295
      @joshkiddfilms1295 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ScottBalkum Totally understand what you are saying, but in real world shooting so far, they seem very similar...moreso than I expected and that I think people are giving the Z63 credit for. I dunno I don't really have a dog in that fight as I already own both, and could always return the z63 if it stunk. I need to do some more testing/make some videos/etc. I think the readout is so fast on the Z63 tho, they could possibly offer a high DR mode somehow, and compromise a little readout speed for some extra range. That would be a cool update.

    • @guidogiotta
      @guidogiotta Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@ScottBalkum The Z6III ist a camera with fast readouts and they sacrificed a stop of dynamic range with the partially stacked sensor. The dynamic range on the Z8 is better but the Z6III has also some advantages over the Z8. Less data in 6K, less overheating in the most demanding recording modes, 4k/120 without line skipping, faster readout speeds in 4K oversampled modes. If you can live with the drawbacks you get a very capable camera for a really good price.

  • @Xanthos84
    @Xanthos84 Před měsícem +2

    switched over from sony and never regretted... z8 is a beast and all the Z "S" lenses are great.. cant do anything wrong with it.. especially with high class lenses like 85mm 1.2 - dream come true!

    • @njrtech
      @njrtech Před 25 dny

      Sold my SonyA1 because I wanted Nikons telephoto options. Now shoot a Z8... And NO regrets. I prefer the Z8 over the A1, period. And I shot the A1 for 2 years so I know that camera well, the Z8 is bettee in many ways. Bye bye Sony!

  • @waveland
    @waveland Před 2 měsíci +4

    There is a button on the side of the EVF dedicated to changing the display mode. And you can limit which display modes it cycles through but that’s how you quickly turn the rear screen on and off.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +4

      Yea, Bill messaged me right after I posted it. DOH!

  • @BillHoward3
    @BillHoward3 Před 2 měsíci +6

    Nice review. For turning the lcd on/off, there is a button to the left of the viewfinder (as looking from thebrear of the camera) that can turn the screen on/off without the menu.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +8

      Are you kidding? Just Wow! There it is. So many buttons!!!!!

    • @michaelmalodrums9674
      @michaelmalodrums9674 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ScottBalkumI was wondering also you didn’t talk about the viewfinder / display button 😉

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@michaelmalodrums9674 I didn’t know about it until Bill (below) messaged me right after I released the video. That was a “You’ve got to be kidding me” moment. In fairness, it isn’t sticking out. You have to know its there. :)

  • @mikeblack_pw
    @mikeblack_pw Před 2 měsíci +2

    I've been using the Z's since month 1 in 2018. It's fun to see people "discovering" Nikon and the Z's and being as excited about them as we were 6 years ago.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I feel like I should set the stage a little. I’ve been shooting with REDs for nearly 10 years. The RED is a much more capable camera. So, there was few reasons to look at the video, except as a backup, B or C cam and the stills like I stated in the video. If I couldn’t have afforded the RED back when, I feel like I might have landed on a Nikon at some point.

    • @mikeblack_pw
      @mikeblack_pw Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ScottBalkumI get you. And when/if a RED with Z mount comes or a “Nikon C70” with RED tech inside arrives there are a whole bunch of people going to discover RED. I have a Z8 & Z9 and just got a Z6III. Good time to be a Nikon shooter.
      Re: quirks…. I have my menu banks set to different codecs and frame rates. Menu bank A is 10 bit .265 flat with active D lighting. 4K 24. Menu Bank B is 4K 60. C is N-Log. D is RAW. I have that as a setting in my I-menu. Easy peasy.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      When the Nikon/RED first cam hits, its going to hit hard.

  • @Veered2Train
    @Veered2Train Před 2 měsíci +2

    Scott I’d like to say that your Footage is Amazing, the Edits and Sync was engaging. Keep up the Great Work Meng!

  • @PastorCory
    @PastorCory Před 2 měsíci +3

    People complaining about the Nikon menu is a moot point, we nikon shooters never complained and understood and never thought the system was complicated... Baby steps i guess

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Its just an attractant or concern for those coming from higher end cameras.

  • @waveland
    @waveland Před 2 měsíci +2

    Also, the Ultrasync Blue from Atomos works quite well and you can feed timecode to as many as 3 Nikon bodies with one unit. It’s actually quite slick because you don’t have to find a mounting point for the timecode generator.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Right, but that only works in the Atomos system.

  • @dm.colorist
    @dm.colorist Před 2 měsíci +2

    Got to use one during NAB week, it was awesome. There are some color issues that Nikon/Blackmagic needs to address, but otherwise amazing 8K FF camera, and a good 5.4k s35 camera. Can't wait for any of RED's tech to trickle into the Nikon line and vice versa.

  • @Ben_Stewart
    @Ben_Stewart Před 2 měsíci +4

    Luckily you can mount all that Canon glass onto a Z mount.

  • @stupest
    @stupest Před 2 měsíci +1

    Totally agree with you on the menu system. It’s so easy to get lost and forget what you are trying to set/change. Especially in the field. If you are in the middle of a shoot, forget it. 😂

  • @MLee-vcrr
    @MLee-vcrr Před měsícem

    I've never owned Nikon cameras before this year. I bought my very Nikon, the Zf earlier this year and was very impressed. That led me to pick up the Z8 for the high performance. I agree that this is one of the most convoluted menu systems I've ever used( I own various brands). Menus are very thorough and offer a great deal of control but they are just all over the place! These are very good cameras but Nikon needs to completely over haul their menus guided by actual photographers and videographers.

  • @stormer1686
    @stormer1686 Před 2 měsíci +3

    The shot was freaking cool. Thank you for it.

  • @RaymondParkerPhoto
    @RaymondParkerPhoto Před 2 měsíci +2

    It's my fave! Great camera to work with.

  • @OracleTestlab
    @OracleTestlab Před 2 měsíci +1

    I shot video of a bird feeding its baby on a vertical /portrait orientation. but on the video editing software davinci resolve/ capcut it appear vertical video on a landscape frame> needed to have the frame as I shot them. But I could not figure out how to do that. The I actually cropped thy frame to have what I needed but I couldn't quite get as I shot them. Please give me a tips to resolve the issue.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Right click your timeline, edit settings, then under resolution, click the box that says “vertical”

    • @OracleTestlab
      @OracleTestlab Před 2 měsíci

      @@ScottBalkum Thanks a lot

  • @almostinfamous42
    @almostinfamous42 Před 2 měsíci +1

    The interval timer has worked the exact same since the d200. They may actually not know how to change it at this point😂

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Heh. My D200 didn’t have it. They must have added it in a firmware. I had an external timer.

  • @waynerm002
    @waynerm002 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Great video Scott, the video menu is something I also want Nikon to change to be different than the photo menu. As far as the screen, I had high hopes for them making something like the A7R V's, sadly that did happen. I figure they decided to use part from the Z9's parts bin instead of developing something new. Maybe we will see that in a MK II version. I recall seeing information on using Atomos AirGlu over Bluetooth on the Z8, that doesn't work?

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      It only works on their systems. I am working on getting a few timecode companies in touch with Nikon. Fingers crossed. bluetooth can be a winner here.

  • @michaelmalodrums9674
    @michaelmalodrums9674 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great to see you got one in your hands Scott !! Anything worth loving will get you scratching your head for a while , but in capable hands with experience I’m sure you’ll find ways to push it to its limits and that’s a great thought ! Artists find ways to make something do what it wasn’t meant to do and then you’re smiling ! Welcome aboard the Z 8 club ! 😉

  • @JG-sn1zz
    @JG-sn1zz Před 2 měsíci +1

    If the camera had all the things we desired from other Cameras we were already accustomed to then there would only be one camera, the Nicanson.

  • @CINENIMUS
    @CINENIMUS Před 2 měsíci +1

    is the slow motion still not slowed down in camera? I remember ZF not having an option to slow down in camera to 24fps so are forced to do it in post

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      There is an option on 1080 h.264 but not on NRAW. You have to convert.

  • @waveland
    @waveland Před 2 měsíci +2

    Scott, I’ve had a Z9 for a while but used it sparingly for video because initially the memory banks were not separate between stills and video, so you could easily drag exposure settings you were using in stills back over to video when switching modes. And then you’d have to rebuild your video settings. It was ponderous and just plain awful! After a fairly recent firmware update which properly separated still from video I started to use the Z9 more for video, but for me it’s the Z6III which caused me to sell off my low end Blackmagic cameras and go all in for Nikon. (Note: At ISO 100 the Z8/9 and the Z6III have identical DR measurements.) I still don’t have a firm plan for a full frame cine camera with more comprehensive I/O. I’ve tentatively put in a C400 preorder but wouldn’t it be nice if the Red division could rush out a Z-mount alternative. That’s not going to happen so it’s probably a toss up between a C400 or if Sony can get it out, whatever is going to replace the FX9.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      The Z9/Z8 showed the world, Nikon was serious about video. The Z6iii doubled down. Whatever Nikon/RED come up with is going to be incredible. But, for $3500, the Z8 is very hard to beat. And at 8k, there’s nothing can can come close. Its wild.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +3

      The Sony A1 is the closest competitor and it can’t shoot RAW. Nikon pulled no punches on this one.

    • @waveland
      @waveland Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@ScottBalkum Somewhere along the way Nikon finally got a clue that they had to beat the competition on hybrid features or fade into oblivion. And on a price/performance basis they’ve rolled out some powerful hardware.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yea, its kind of incredible how much of a jump they made.

  • @M7i_fr
    @M7i_fr Před 26 dny +1

    Nikon z8 😍👏🏻

  • @CharlieWangPhoto
    @CharlieWangPhoto Před 2 měsíci +1

    Kind of a PITA, but my current workaround for timecode to other brands of timecode generator uses Atomos Ultrasync Blue -> Ultrasync One -> LTC to Right-Angle 3.5mm Mic-Level Timecode Cable -> Deity TC-1 so I can pair my setup with the Theos 32-bit recording system.
    It would much better if newer Z mirrorless cameras could ship with a dedicated timecode DIN port like the R5C. Powering three different timecode generators through USB C is such a waste of space and time spent mounting and cabling. On top of that, I have to pack the Atomos Ninja V and Connect and power that too to get the Ultrasync Blue and One synced up reliably (offset correction). Would be great if I could just do Deity TC-1's, Ambient Recording ACN-L and Nanolockit, or any other brand for that matter between Nikon and other cameras and audio recorders.

  • @camerasutra247
    @camerasutra247 Před 2 měsíci +1

    You have a very similar history as mine. Great to have met you excellent work.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I enjoyed our conversation and subscribed to you as well.

  • @enricojakobsoriano
    @enricojakobsoriano Před 2 měsíci +1

    That Tone Lōc bit caught me off guard. 😂

  • @neomatrix888
    @neomatrix888 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Very informative and pro review, btw i see you use pro mist 1/8 or 1/4 filter on the lens but whats the cam? Red or Canon? Highlights are smooth...

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      Which cam? The Z8? No promist filters were used.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Oh, hahaha, I spaced on all the cameras. The talking head camera is using a lens tuner from Module8. Review coming shortly. Its a ton of fun!

  • @bmefilms6879
    @bmefilms6879 Před měsícem

    that "lets do it" was delayed and hilarious!!!🤣

  • @angryrabbitproductions1690
    @angryrabbitproductions1690 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Have you tried the Sony A9III? That’s a camera I underestimated. However, after shooting with it for awhile, I can honestly say it maybe Sony’s best video camera, save for ports.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Its a great start for Sony and global shutter. They will really get it down on the next 1-2 GS sensors. Right now, its quite limited in DR.

  • @aser75
    @aser75 Před 2 měsíci +2

    great review, very good presentation ! thx!!

  • @parasverma1604
    @parasverma1604 Před 2 měsíci +1

    i love ur capturing lens.... it really amazing.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      Module8 tuner.. Review coming soon.

  • @reneefariasphoto40
    @reneefariasphoto40 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I agree with your complaints... However, I think that Nikon set up these cameras Z8/9 for their loyalist. Their loyalist know the menu very well and easy for us to change. Overall, I agree, if they want to grow their market place. They need to make a few changes. I love my Z9... my z7ii as well, but that is my photo camera. :) Thanks for this video.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I am sure they'll adapt as they grow in this market. They seem to be making a lot of great decisions lately.

    • @jmbaillard7015
      @jmbaillard7015 Před 2 měsíci

      By the time they finally adapt, we early Nikon shooters, will have switched to the S1H mark ii. LUMIX division inside Pana has always been top notch regarding video ( that’s probably the reason why a big company named Arri decided to go on full collaborating mode with them ;-)

  • @dannypgrizzle
    @dannypgrizzle Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great bokeh, Scott. And some kind of glamour glass filter also.

  • @nathanielcashjr.732
    @nathanielcashjr.732 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Love it.

  • @panaredman
    @panaredman Před 2 měsíci +2

    Nice review Scott do you know if the digital IBIS is for video aswell?

  • @lucariccidj
    @lucariccidj Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank You Scott!! Great one! Ciao Rex

  • @raredreamfootage
    @raredreamfootage Před 2 měsíci

    What scares me though is how hot the CFexpress gets and how close it is to the image sensor which means the heat builds and builds.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      Its ok. There’s 100,000’s of thousands of hours on these cards as a whole in various cameras. They are designed to work with it.

  • @CinemaRepository
    @CinemaRepository Před 2 měsíci +1

    Great review! But we didn't get to hear much about battery life. I'd love to know what you thought about that.

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      I did a 10 hour night timelapse on a single battery. It surprised me. As for video, its about 1.5 hours of 8K raw recording.

    • @CinemaRepository
      @CinemaRepository Před 2 měsíci

      @@ScottBalkum That’s not bad. Have ya done any stills tests for batteries? Like
      take it out for an average day of shooting and see how good the battery life is?

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      @@CinemaRepository I didn’t do any stills only tests but from what I gathered, its about 340 stills per battery.

  • @jimb213
    @jimb213 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Whoa, guitar pick bokeh! What lens/filters are you using for the studio shot?

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      That is a lens tuner from Module8. Review coming soon. Its a ton of fun and very pretty, especially when there’s a lot of specular in the background.

  • @cogmission1
    @cogmission1 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Hi Scott,
    I just wanna let you know I haven’t been around because I have Intense work milestones currently.
    Anyway, some awesome imagery there!
    What I have to ask, and I don’t understand is why someone who owns a V-Raptor and KX, would want a mirrorless camera?

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Right tool for the job, always. For me, its not a replacement. Its an addition. DSMC3 cameras can’t do timelapse like the DSMC2(1) cams can so having a camera that can do timelapse, in 8k, and shoot 8k raw video is a natural win for a B or even a C cam. Versatility is the goal.

    • @cogmission1
      @cogmission1 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ScottBalkum ah ok that makes sense, thanks!

  • @user-qe7gw4yv7y
    @user-qe7gw4yv7y Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have no interest in video at all so my D850 serves me well. Maybe if the Z8 prices drop I will get it but not for 4100 Euro.

  • @maxbridge8921
    @maxbridge8921 Před 2 měsíci

    Nice review Scott. I'm currently choosing between this and an R5C. I'd far prefer the Z8 but I need it to have an aa filter as I shoot a lot of products. From what I've seen moire can be an issue on yhe Z8. Not a criticism of this camera, many don't have aa filters these days...

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      I wouldn't worry about it as removing moire in post is quick and fast. Go with the camera that works with how you shoot.

    • @maxbridge8921
      @maxbridge8921 Před 2 měsíci

      @ScottBalkum I always worry 🤣. One brand I work with has boxes with tight repeating patterns, hence moire happens a lot. I could get both if I sell my fx3 but I love that little camera. 12800 iso is so useful when using a probe lens

  • @DevilDocPlays
    @DevilDocPlays Před 2 měsíci +1

    What the hell did you say in the beginning?

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      I introduced myself and my company and welcomed everyone to the channel, discussed what I ate for breakfast, and talked about the lengthy repair I had on my Toyota in the shop.

  • @darrenorange2982
    @darrenorange2982 Před 2 měsíci +1

    That's a lot of thermal warnings...do we need that many? lol

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      Its like a play by play! :)

    • @filmk36
      @filmk36 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Whats happens if the camera turns off from heat? Working normally when is cooled down or giving some issues?

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      @@filmk36 Yes, it will not power up for use until it cools. About 10 minutes and it was fine.

  • @njrtech
    @njrtech Před 25 dny

    Fairly fast readout? Z8/Z9 readout soeed is measured around 3.47ms...thats slightly faster than the Sony A1 readout speed of 3.74ms! Nikons new Z6iii is around 14.4ms which is still great. Now.. Sony A7IV? About 70ms!! Slow... And Sony A7RV? Even Worse ..at 100ms!!

  • @gnkstudios6138
    @gnkstudios6138 Před 2 měsíci

    Glad to see you are embracing the Nikon overlords lol fantastic footage btw! I love my z8. What lens are you using for this video? Vintage?
    Quick correction. The 8k H265 format is actually 10bit 420. Not 422. Not a huge deal but some may not be happy. Only seems to affect shooting on green screen. Other than that it’s a fantastic codec that makes the 8k and 4k much more manageable

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Interesting. I found conflicting info on that. I’ll have to dig in and verify so my brain will let me sleep tonight. If I was shooting greenscreen, I’d shoot raw, just for protection.

    • @gnkstudios6138
      @gnkstudios6138 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@ScottBalkumpretty certain it’s 420. One of the CZcamsrs (to whom I can’t remember) mentioned this and it made me find the article by and they have the specs at 420 for both 8 and 10 bit. Interestingly enough BH has it as 422. But I’m gonna go with DPreview. But if you find something from Nikon please share

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      Yea, verified its 4:2:0 in h.265 :(

  • @laranitasantana
    @laranitasantana Před měsícem

    What is the rush

  • @b34k97
    @b34k97 Před 2 měsíci

    Can the winner of multiple camera of the year 2023 awards really be considered "overlooked"?

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yes. By high end cinematographers. It happens. I think Nikon will be setting the record straight in the near future with Nikon/RED.

  • @EugeneMaynard
    @EugeneMaynard Před 2 měsíci +1

    👍🏾 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇸🇪🇹🇹

  • @jimpack9622
    @jimpack9622 Před 2 měsíci

    Flippy screens suck. Use an external monitor if you want to look at yourself

    • @ScottBalkum
      @ScottBalkum  Před 2 měsíci

      Its not about looking at yourself. Its about being able to use it at any angle while keeping it compact.

    • @jimpack9622
      @jimpack9622 Před měsícem

      @@ScottBalkum nothing compact about a flippy screen extended

  • @ggdfggdfgdffgfddg34
    @ggdfggdfgdffgfddg34 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Dude, everything you need is in Panasonic! Leave Nikon to the photographers!