Appreciate that, man! Generally, the scaling at 1440p and 4K flattens out quickly without testing with something like an RTX 4090, and even then it tends to be a little boring.
I built a 7900 computer for myself about a month ago. I am very pleased with how fast the games load (the dreaded speech during the Civ VI start screen now only reaches to "you have come far" before I can enter the game), and the encoding speed for wav > mp3 that I record for music streamers and their communities (about one full album, 78m10s of music, took just under 2 minutes to encode). My living room is also noticably cooler now than it was in July last summer :)
May I ask what GPU did you use? I'm thinking of building a general use PC for myself using the 7900 but I'm not quite sure about the GPU yet (waiting for a special sale im my country in November and see what Black Friday deals I can get too through Amazon)
@@ladulaser I was checking the 4070Ti too. I'm between that one and the RX 7800 XT. Here in Mexico at regular price the 7800 XT is about 350 dollars cheaper than the 4070Ti and 120 dollars cheaper than the non Ti. I know that in idle or basic video playback the 7800XT consumes more power than the Nvidia cards but during gaming it consumes less than the 4070Ti and I'm not sure I'd be able to appreciate the extra performance with my monitor (32' Samsung Odyssey G5). I guess it will depend on what discounts I can get
Upgrade question: My computer main components are MSI MPG X670E Carbon WiFi motherboard, MSI 3060 X12g GPU (Nvidia), 64 GB Kingston Beast DDR5 4800 memory, 850 watt power supply, Ryzen 7 7700 CPU (65w version). This is NOT used for gaming, but used for photo editing, specifically astro photos where 'stacking' is heavily used and the main programs are 'Pixinsight' and 'Affinity Photo' (both CPU intensive). I'm trying to figure out if I would gain anything significant by upgrading to the Ryzen 9 7900 CPU (65w version) and keeping all the other components the same. I have PBO enabled but no other tweaks. Can't find any good answers on the web so I'm asking the 'experts' here. Thanks!
I've been happy with my recent Ryzen 9 7900 12C/24T CPU build. Pair it with an RX 7800 XT GPU & you have exacting you need for a performance-balanced & rocking 1440p system that delivers the goods. I went with the ASUS TUF version 7800 XT GPU because it runs among the coolest & most quiet for a 7800 XT offerings, making it a great match for the cool-running 7900 CPU. Sure, you can spend more money for a bit more more FPS performance (& more thermals), but at 1440p resolutions its basically unnecessary overkill at that point, for benchmarking e-sport purposes more than anything related to actual gaming quality-of-life.
I was looking at the non x version because of a small build in which later I may put in a bigger case later. I would love to see comparisons of the higher wattage versions running at 65 watt in eco mode against the 7900. Just wanted to see if there was a big difference and if I should get a X version and run it in eco mode and still have the option later to run with the higher wattage on my bigger build if I choose.
I actually temperature limited my 7950x to 80C and power limited it to 140w... so... about a 7% underclock from maximum 95C ballstothewall. No problems, never gets over 82C on a 360 AIO which is about the highest I'm comfortable with. Most of the time it's pretty much at 49-72C. The overheating hype was just that... hype.. you can limit the max temp to whatever you want in UEFI BIOS. The only time I ever even get close to pegging all the cores is during a rare video render with tons of effects, transitions, or conversions from one resolution to another.
Hi! I've actually been using a trusty armchair at my desk for the last couple of years - not the most convenient thing in the world, but it's super comfy and holds my weight. Though If I didn't have to send it back to ASUS, I would definitely be using the ROG Chariot right now.
i have a 9 7900x. i was wondering if activating the 65w ECO MODE i would get the same or better performance of the 9 7900 non-x consuming the same power.
@@TheTechTank I would be extremely grateful if you could test it out. Because i could buy the 9 7900 for the exact same price of my 9 7900x, so i was wondering if it was worth it to return it. Thank you if you'll test it out! ^^
Oh! I don't need to do any testing to tell you to keep the 7900X - it's better than the 7900 if only marginally. If it's power/temps you're worried about it's better to lower the X than to boost the non-X.
This would be a major overkill chip for gaming, but yes, with that card you're looking at decent framerates and quality settings at 1440p (depending on the games).
Hey! I really want to know what cpu to get between the Ryzen 9 7900 or the 14th i7-14700F. I really don't know what to choose. I have a 4060 with 32gb ddr4 ram and 512gb ssd
Hmm, sort of depends. What CPU are you coming from? I'd personally go for the 7900 since there's a guaranteed upgrade path on AM5, but if you can find it for cheap and you don't plan to upgrade for four+ years then the 14700F is a great chip.
@@TheTechTank I had just completed the upgraded installment and i must say, I'm very glad I'm not using my old motherboard again because as I was taking it out my pc case, it got stuck between the case and a screw and I accidentally yanked it out too hard breaking the motherboard! But luckily I'm set with all the need and healthy parts! I did struggle for an hour to get all the right cables to all the right slots and everything! I'm also running GTA V on maxed out settings on 143 FPS on 2k ! Thanks for all the content you give us! Love you man!❤
@@TheTechTank Indeed didn't like it when the new cpu burnt out the new motherboard socket on the new am5\Ryzen 7000 series either because it was a defective or bad bios\driver's.
You should be testing at 1440p and 4K not just 1080p. You don't buy a 12 core chip to be playing 1080p these days you can do that with a 6 or 8 core chip.
Cpu if it has any impact on upscaling resolution the impact is incredibly minimal. Entire point of a decent gpu is pushing 1440/4k. If your talking about gameing, higher than an 8 cores is utterly useless aswell. Might be a handy future investment but practically zero games utilize over 8 cores.
@@TheTechTank That sucks! I plan to run the stock cooler on a 7600x in eco mode via my old 3700x cooler, as why I ask, but if I was buying the 7900 I would want to know.
@@kravenfoxbodies2479 it does come with the prism amd cooler, and it can run it how new gen runs is it boosts till it reaches 95 C depending if u enable PBO or not, if you dont enable it its gonna perform very cool, but if u do enable it its gonna boost till its thermal limit and thats okey this gen was made to do that, if u bring it a better cooler it will simply boost more until it reaches 95 C or the power limit
I've looked at every Bottleneck Calculator I could find, and the 7900X gives me a much more balanced performance over the 7900 in General Tasks, Processor Heavy tasks and Gaming. I guess ya' got to stop with the Analysis Paralysis and build it. lol At the moment, the 7900X is $13 more than the 7900. That's going to be the Best $13 I've spent in some time.
7900x is significantly harder to cool, you'd have to spend more to actually see the performance differences. Personally, gonna have to go 7800x3d. I already have a 5800x3d, and it's not worth giving up frames for a bit better productivity performance. Bottleneck calculators are a joke too, it will always vary game to game, just pick recent parts that aren't at the bottom of the list.
7900 is more expensive that non x haha AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.70GHz AM5 BOX 100-100000589WOF 171 990 Ft AMD Ryzen 9 7900 3.70GHz AM5 BOX Wraith Prism fridge 100-100000590BOX 174 989 Ft hungarian forints
I'll be glad when i get shot of this AMD 7900x pc. Total price of crap, every 5 or 6 reboots it will start doing a 5 minute long memory retrain. Latest bios, no overclock, 6000 speed memory. Nobody got time for that, 50% of the time pc will not come out of hiberate and that means turning it off at the wall and usually triggers a memory retrain. The previous AMD machine was a 5950x and cpu failed.... AMD replaced it but it cost me 3 weeks of downtime. Never abused, great temps 360mm aio on it and 7 case fans. Next machine will be intel as soon as 14th gen comes out and I'll stick this pos amd cpu, board on ebay. If you have to use AMD stick to 5200MHz ram the fastest offical speed and make up the difference by getting the X3D.
Great vid Tank. Very informative... I would be interested in seeing how they scale up in gaming at higher resolutions.
Appreciate that, man! Generally, the scaling at 1440p and 4K flattens out quickly without testing with something like an RTX 4090, and even then it tends to be a little boring.
I built a 7900 computer for myself about a month ago. I am very pleased with how fast the games load (the dreaded speech during the Civ VI start screen now only reaches to "you have come far" before I can enter the game), and the encoding speed for wav > mp3 that I record for music streamers and their communities (about one full album, 78m10s of music, took just under 2 minutes to encode). My living room is also noticably cooler now than it was in July last summer :)
May I ask what GPU did you use? I'm thinking of building a general use PC for myself using the 7900 but I'm not quite sure about the GPU yet (waiting for a special sale im my country in November and see what Black Friday deals I can get too through Amazon)
@@ivancillo8797 I re-used the 3090 from my previous rig. Get a 4070Ti if you wanna top that by just a few % :)
@@ladulaser I was checking the 4070Ti too. I'm between that one and the RX 7800 XT. Here in Mexico at regular price the 7800 XT is about 350 dollars cheaper than the 4070Ti and 120 dollars cheaper than the non Ti. I know that in idle or basic video playback the 7800XT consumes more power than the Nvidia cards but during gaming it consumes less than the 4070Ti and I'm not sure I'd be able to appreciate the extra performance with my monitor (32' Samsung Odyssey G5). I guess it will depend on what discounts I can get
@@ladulaser thanks!
Is a 7900x worth $250 ?
Just looked on Amazon both the AMD Ryzen 9 7900 and the X version are about the same price!
In Germany the 7900 costs 369€, the 7900x 409€. 😅
In Canada it's 486 for non x and 549 for x
@@a.pigeon bad prices!!
In Serbia right now 7900x is less than 7900 for about 20%.
In this case I'd prefer to buy 7900x and setup AMD eco mode to 105 or 65 😊
@@a.pigeon 486 CAD is only 358.27 USD
Yo Mr Tank great vid man. Lookin good bro
Dankie, meneer!
This was a great review of the 5800x3d.
😂
Thanks for the video and it looks like I'll be buying the 7900 as it's like $40 AUD cheaper where I am and it comes with the wraith prism.
Upgrade question: My computer main components are MSI MPG X670E Carbon WiFi motherboard, MSI 3060 X12g GPU (Nvidia), 64 GB Kingston Beast DDR5 4800 memory, 850 watt power supply, Ryzen 7 7700 CPU (65w version). This is NOT used for gaming, but used for photo editing, specifically astro photos where 'stacking' is heavily used and the main programs are 'Pixinsight' and 'Affinity Photo' (both CPU intensive). I'm trying to figure out if I would gain anything significant by upgrading to the Ryzen 9 7900 CPU (65w version) and keeping all the other components the same. I have PBO enabled but no other tweaks. Can't find any good answers on the web so I'm asking the 'experts' here. Thanks!
at what minute you explain about power consumption? sorry I'm lost
I've been happy with my recent Ryzen 9 7900 12C/24T CPU build. Pair it with an RX 7800 XT GPU & you have exacting you need for a performance-balanced & rocking 1440p system that delivers the goods. I went with the ASUS TUF version 7800 XT GPU because it runs among the coolest & most quiet for a 7800 XT offerings, making it a great match for the cool-running 7900 CPU. Sure, you can spend more money for a bit more more FPS performance (& more thermals), but at 1440p resolutions its basically unnecessary overkill at that point, for benchmarking e-sport purposes more than anything related to actual gaming quality-of-life.
I was looking at the non x version because of a small build in which later I may put in a bigger case later. I would love to see comparisons of the higher wattage versions running at 65 watt in eco mode against the 7900. Just wanted to see if there was a big difference and if I should get a X version and run it in eco mode and still have the option later to run with the higher wattage on my bigger build if I choose.
Did you find anything?
Any updates on this?
You're looking great 😍 keep it up!
Hmu btw.
No u!
bro you been working out? looking good man and great review as always
Yes sir! On that health grind, thanks for noticing and for the kind words, man!
On AWD the ryzen 9 7900 was a 100 pound but it out of stock now 😢
I actually temperature limited my 7950x to 80C and power limited it to 140w... so... about a 7% underclock from maximum 95C ballstothewall.
No problems, never gets over 82C on a 360 AIO which is about the highest I'm comfortable with.
Most of the time it's pretty much at 49-72C. The overheating hype was just that... hype.. you can limit the max temp to whatever you want in UEFI BIOS.
The only time I ever even get close to pegging all the cores is during a rare video render with tons of effects, transitions, or conversions from one resolution to another.
82C with an AIO cooling solution is still pretty ludicrous tbh. What if someone wanted to use it with good old aircooling?
Hey Tank! Sorry unrelated to the video. But what chair do you use right now? Ive seen that you have reviewed quite a few chairs. Thanks!
Hi! I've actually been using a trusty armchair at my desk for the last couple of years - not the most convenient thing in the world, but it's super comfy and holds my weight. Though If I didn't have to send it back to ASUS, I would definitely be using the ROG Chariot right now.
What if the X and the non-X versions have the same price, like in the shop here?
Everyone going for the non x the past year made the x being cheaper today.
i have a 9 7900x. i was wondering if activating the 65w ECO MODE i would get the same or better performance of the 9 7900 non-x consuming the same power.
Not sure about better performance, but the 7900X should perform close to if not the same as the 7900 without eco mode.
@@TheTechTank so if i use eco mode 65w on 9 7900x i get lower performance than 9 7900?
@@Alpha-fz8fv You'll most likely get about the same performance, but I'd have to test it myself to be sure.
@@TheTechTank I would be extremely grateful if you could test it out. Because i could buy the 9 7900 for the exact same price of my 9 7900x, so i was wondering if it was worth it to return it. Thank you if you'll test it out! ^^
Oh! I don't need to do any testing to tell you to keep the 7900X - it's better than the 7900 if only marginally. If it's power/temps you're worried about it's better to lower the X than to boost the non-X.
Would this cpu paired with a AMD Radeon RX 7600 XT 16GB and 16gb 3200 ram be good for 1440p AAA gaming?
This would be a major overkill chip for gaming, but yes, with that card you're looking at decent framerates and quality settings at 1440p (depending on the games).
Frankly, where I live, the 'X' variant is cheaper than the 'non X'.
same
Yes, that picture was half a year ago, since then, the CPU prices have swapped the places and the X version is actually cheaper.
Hey! I really want to know what cpu to get between the Ryzen 9 7900 or the 14th i7-14700F. I really don't know what to choose. I have a 4060 with 32gb ddr4 ram and 512gb ssd
Hmm, sort of depends. What CPU are you coming from? I'd personally go for the 7900 since there's a guaranteed upgrade path on AM5, but if you can find it for cheap and you don't plan to upgrade for four+ years then the 14700F is a great chip.
@@TheTechTank Thanks for the response! I decided to buy a Ryzen 9 7900 upgrade as it also includes 32GB of DDR5 5600Mhz ram
@@TheTechTank I'm just going to struggle with getting all the upgraded parts into my pc haha. I've never built my own PC
That's great, man! Don't worry too much about it. Building isn't nearly as hard or stressful as you'd think - it's even fun when you get into it, lol.
@@TheTechTank I had just completed the upgraded installment and i must say, I'm very glad I'm not using my old motherboard again because as I was taking it out my pc case, it got stuck between the case and a screw and I accidentally yanked it out too hard breaking the motherboard! But luckily I'm set with all the need and healthy parts! I did struggle for an hour to get all the right cables to all the right slots and everything! I'm also running GTA V on maxed out settings on 143 FPS on 2k ! Thanks for all the content you give us! Love you man!❤
Sad the Ryzen 7 5800x3d keeps up or out performs the newer am5 platforms in gaming.
Sad if you're on AM5. Amazing if you're still on AM4, lol.
@@TheTechTank Indeed didn't like it when the new cpu burnt out the new motherboard socket on the new am5\Ryzen 7000 series either because it was a defective or bad bios\driver's.
You should be testing at 1440p and 4K not just 1080p. You don't buy a 12 core chip to be playing 1080p these days you can do that with a 6 or 8 core chip.
Cpu if it has any impact on upscaling resolution the impact is incredibly minimal. Entire point of a decent gpu is pushing 1440/4k.
If your talking about gameing, higher than an 8 cores is utterly useless aswell. Might be a handy future investment but practically zero games utilize over 8 cores.
4k is GPU bound, you can use a R5 5600x at 4k and get 1-3fps less then a r9 7900. At 1440p I agree with you
We need to see it tested with the stock cooler.
Would've loved to, but didn't get one with the sample.
@@TheTechTank That sucks! I plan to run the stock cooler on a 7600x in eco mode via my old 3700x cooler, as why I ask, but if I was buying the 7900 I would want to know.
@@kravenfoxbodies2479 it does come with the prism amd cooler, and it can run it
how new gen runs is it boosts till it reaches 95 C
depending if u enable PBO or not, if you dont enable it its gonna perform very cool, but if u do enable it its gonna boost till its thermal limit and thats okey this gen was made to do that, if u bring it a better cooler it will simply boost more until it reaches 95 C or the power limit
@@ayoubkrt5018 I run the prism on the 7600x and it's hard to believe it can handle the 7900 non X cpu.
@@kravenfoxbodies2479 I said it will run 95 C either way, just how much boosting they will be.
lol the X version is cheaper than the regular 7900 in my country
Hello, everyone !
I really Like R7900 - Wonderful, powerful CPU ! 🌞❤😉👍
I've looked at every Bottleneck Calculator I could find, and the 7900X gives me a much more balanced performance over the 7900 in General Tasks, Processor Heavy tasks and Gaming.
I guess ya' got to stop with the Analysis Paralysis and build it. lol
At the moment, the 7900X is $13 more than the 7900. That's going to be the Best $13 I've spent in some time.
7900x is significantly harder to cool, you'd have to spend more to actually see the performance differences. Personally, gonna have to go 7800x3d. I already have a 5800x3d, and it's not worth giving up frames for a bit better productivity performance. Bottleneck calculators are a joke too, it will always vary game to game, just pick recent parts that aren't at the bottom of the list.
South African government comment took me so off guard hahaha
I need to sneak more of those into my videos 😂
Hahaha! Eina!
there’s a non x?
Indeed.
NOOOOO where is that beautiful luscious hair??? Oh the humanity.
(Faints)
It was getting too luscious, it was taking over! I had to snuff it out before it was too late 😭
just bought a new one for 300€ on second hand market xD!!!
Nice! Great deal, lol.
I will! Trust me 😂
For some reason, non-x is more expensive here in Ukraine.
Stay safe
7900 is more expensive that non x haha AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.70GHz AM5 BOX 100-100000589WOF
171 990 Ft
AMD Ryzen 9 7900 3.70GHz AM5 BOX Wraith Prism fridge 100-100000590BOX
174 989 Ft hungarian forints
😂 Supply and demand, baby!
kkkkkkkkkk, corrupção no governo Brasileiro, kkkkkkkkk melhor dizendo
I'll be glad when i get shot of this AMD 7900x pc. Total price of crap, every 5 or 6 reboots it will start doing a 5 minute long memory retrain. Latest bios, no overclock, 6000 speed memory. Nobody got time for that, 50% of the time pc will not come out of hiberate and that means turning it off at the wall and usually triggers a memory retrain. The previous AMD machine was a 5950x and cpu failed.... AMD replaced it but it cost me 3 weeks of downtime. Never abused, great temps 360mm aio on it and 7 case fans. Next machine will be intel as soon as 14th gen comes out and I'll stick this pos amd cpu, board on ebay. If you have to use AMD stick to 5200MHz ram the fastest offical speed and make up the difference by getting the X3D.
i have a 7900x and it hasnt shot above 65 for me under load
Without a custom loop that sounds almost too good to be true.
Do some back to back cinebench runs and video it or it didn't happen. Or you live in the Artic circle.