Playstation Salvation? HD Retrovision PS2/PS3 Component Cable - Bit Sized, Episode 3
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- In a follow up to my HD Retrovision PS1 Component Adapter preview, I'm revisiting that cable... AND reviewing HDR's Playstation 2/Playstayion 3 component cable. Buy the HD Retrovision PS2/PS3 cable on Amazon: amzn.to/2IQL2cB Or an inexpensive alternative - amzn.to/4a2NMhh
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Ever wondered whether a PS2 really makes PS1 games look better than the original PSX? How big of an impact does HD Retrovision's fantastic build quality have on the clarity of your average PS2 game? Join me for a brief, Bit-Sized dive into the HD Retrovision's PS2/3 cable and we'll find out!
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
0:23 - PS1 vs PS2 PQ
1:34 - Fat vs Slim Model PS2
2:04 - PS2 Cable Showdown
2:52 - Summary and Conclusion
3:24 - Wrap Up and Questions
For more like this video, see my HD Retrovision playlist - • HD Retrovision - Hry
0:00 - Intro
0:23 - PS1 vs PS2 PQ
1:34 - Fat vs Slim Model PS2
2:04 - PS2 Cable Showdown
2:52 - Summary and Conclusion
3:24 - Wrap Up and Questions
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The best part of the HD Retrovision cables is that you'll be guaranteed to not have annoying audio buzz that plagues cheap 3rd party cables
Agreed. The only thing you need to watch for is cheap switchers that can introduce noise. It can be tough to find good legacy switchers these days if you prefer mechanical/passive switcher boxes. The gcomp has me mighty tempted, but it is also quite pricey.
I absolutely love the comparison breakdown! This was exactly what I've been curious about.
Thank you very much for the time and effort you put into making this video!! Great info and pace. Love the visuals! Also, your mug isn't ugly:)
I have a pair of these PS2/PS3 HD Retrovision cables. They certainly get the job done and it's nice knowing they are well built. I had never used a cheap off-brand cable for PS2 so it's cool to see you testing a pair here. If I get asked in the future, I'll probably just recommend people go with the cheap solution as the image quality really didn't look different from the HD Retrovision option.
I have both and they are really close. Paired on an ossc you have to do passthru because of the nasty flicker affect on new tvs. I wish thier was a way to get rid of it. But apparently it inharent to the ps2 signal and the good qualities of the cable
I will say this: not all generic PS2 component cables are created equal. I got lucky with my set, but they were purchased several years ago and I've seen some bad examples from the recent Amazon stock - czcams.com/video/V-7EI8de4cM/video.html At $30, you're not taking that big a leap to know you're getting a quality product.
I have a pair of generic ones and they have bad color representation
@@cbk12 yea Sony TV have no flicker
HD restrovision vs ps2 song official component cable which one is better ?
Another fantastic video comparison. Well done sir!
Thanks just the comparison I was looking for.
Thanks for the video, you should also do one on what upscaler works best for ps2s. Thanks again!
Thank you! This video helped me decide which to get! (that being the HD Retrovision)
I have the first party cords for the ps3 HD They do work on the ps1 and 2. Using those cords are great. I’m getting burnt out on keeping up with my BW ps3 the 60 and 80
It depends brother, for example me, I had these chinese component cables, and they looked better BUT there generated incredible amount of interference! Then my brother gave me his PS2 original component cables and the picture was clear of all noise!! In summary, what I would say is, if for some reason you have a clean third party component cable, that doesn't give you interference, then you are lucky and don't need to buy Sony or Retrovision cables. Over and out.
I have generic. Problem is if you move your setup the cables are so sensitive they break easily. 😒 I'm on my 2nd set of generic cables and I've had enough. Buying the retrovision set.
Would be good to note that generic cables are a lottery. Some have crazy amounts of noise and audio buzz. It would just be best practice and business to buy the Retrovision cables because they are guaranteed to be good and they’re a great company to support. (Although as some have noted there are sometimes supply issues.)
I absolutely agree. I got lucky with my generic cables, but I definitely always recommend HDRV.
Yea if I can fine one at retail price. No way I’m gonna pay $40 or higher for these
Did you activate the PS2's graphical smoothing option for PS1 games on the PlayStation Driver when testing the component cables? If so, did you notice any smoother textures?
No, I hadn't thought to try it out, but that would be fun to look at. My default is usually towards maintaining the original look of a game and almost always for a sharper image, so I left my PS1 driver options where alone. When I think of smooth, low-res textures my mind automatically goes the a muddy N64-like image :D
For PS1 games I can see the potential upside, as there was often some strange pixel distortion with movement.
This was exactly what I was searching for! No lag was induced by the lower end component cables right?
Correct.
great video , subbed
它真的看起来比普通的色差线要好吗？
Love your videos sir. And your comparisons you do. How about a video on the new rad2x or the mclassic cable on n64 or snes
Thanks for pointing out the Rad2X cables. They somehow flew under my radar and are definitely something I'll look into reviewing. Seem like they might be a legit solution. The mClassic has also had me intrigued for a while now.
@@RetroTechSelect ya I think my iscan pro is going to finally retire
my guy, you need to produce more videos.
I pre-ordered an HD Retrovision Component Cable for my PS2 Slim from Castlemania Games. I wish they produced a bigger batch at a time because it is taking forever.
I'm also waiting on a Wii cable right now :) I know HD Retrovision and Castlemania are patiently awaiting the next batch to arrive from the manufacturer.
How long did it take? Is it worth the wait?
@@Doov007 I will let you know when I receive it. I placed the pre-order on July 12th and I have not received it yet. I hope it is really amazing considering how long it takes to receive the damn cable.
@@cemsengul16 Damn that is crazy.. If I had time I would go with it but I think Imma go with the cheap basic one
Quick question, do you happen to know if there's any real point in getting the HD Retrovision component cables when you have the OEM Silver/Gold PS2/3 Sony cables?
I haven't compared them myself. In most cases, I would say OEM cables are going to be pretty decent. I can only vouch for the HD Retrovision cables being exceptional.
I know it's been a while since your question was asked. But I have both the PS3 Gold Component cables and the HD Retrovision component cables since I had that same question, and in my opinion, they both output an extremely similar image and audio quality. So to the naked eye, they'll probably look and sound about the same.
So I'd say that the cable you can get for a better price is the way to, since both are very high quality.
The OEM ps3 era cables made by sony are perfect for component on ps2 and ps3 although the ps2 era component cables show ghosting effect on HdTvs
Hi, great video !
What solution do you use with the HD Retrovision cable ?
A HDMI adapter ? OSSC ? Something else ?
Thanks! Yeah, I use the OSSC for 6th gen consoles (including PS2), and RetroTINK 2X to OSSC for older 240p devices.
@@RetroTechSelect Have you experienced bugs using your ps2 to play your ps1 games ?
@@jyremsama9142 personally, no. But I mostly use a PS1 with the HDR adapter for original PlayStation games.
@@RetroTechSelect ok, thank you, I think i'll buy the OSSC & HD Retrovision.
I think that it depends on the particular generic cable, I tested beyond good and evil on the ps2 whit composite vs my generic component and it has a lot of lighting overexposure, original composite is way better colors as well as my hd retrovision wii cables(btw beyond good an evil runs noticeable smoother on my bc Wii)
Having seen other comparisons, I think it is safe to say I lucked out with a relatively decent generic cable. I'm thinking I will revisit this idea at some point, comparing various cheap generic cables against higher quality options like Insurrection, HD Retrovision, and legacy Monster/Official cables.
I actually have several types of Nintendo S-video cables that I would like to run head-to-head with official/pricey options.
Does anyone know of a comparison between an official sony component cable vs the hd retrovision component cables? Or does anyone have personal experience with this and please share? Thanks in advance. I'm looking at the official sony component cables and considering it just for the fact that it's original hardware but I'm open to other options because the prices are starting to IMO get a little out of hand.
I'd love to get a hold of some official Sony cables if I run into them in the wild.
Someone in a facebook group said that he couldn't tell the difference between the two.
Any answer please, i have a ps3 with original san andreas digital ps2 edition downloaded onto it. Playing it on my ps3 through a 43 inch modern lg tv through hdmi blurs the san andreas image awfully. Will a component cable make it look that much better? Thanks.
A component cable "could" look "better", depending on what you're looking for, but it wouldn't likely be sharper. San Andreas was an incredibly blurry game, if I'm remembering it correctly. Vice City also employed an annoying amount of motion blur as well, I believe.
@@RetroTechSelect yes it had blur but on my new tv it looks totally garbage i have to change screen resolution to 4:3 or 'original', would an upscaler work better?. I just want to be able to play san andreas ps2 version on a ps3 with great graphics. Guess i got some researching to do. Thank you for the reply. 👍
@@Wilko710 It's definitely up to preference. I would say that PS2 games just looked better on a CRT, but you can get a pretty decent image for a lot of them from a pair of these cables and a RetroTINK 5X.
I get that checkerboard display on some games on my component cables I paid 10 for. Is it cause they are unshielded I’m getting that checkerboard display?
Checkerboarding can certainly be a symptom of cheap cables (and are typical of junky S-video cables), but it wasn't uncommon for older titles to utilize dithering as a visual effect to simulate extra detail, color, or transparencies. Some PS1 games employed full screen dithering patterns that weren't visible on composite signals, but can become a little distracting with sharper output methods.
@@RetroTechSelect this is ps2 I’m talking about. And I can see the lines as soon as I fire up the ps2 so I know it’s not certain games it’s just what’s there. I ditched the cheap ones and picking up oem ps3 component cable ones to use in the ps2, I think that should be a clean display yes?
That should absolutely be an improvement. You shouldn't be seeing consistent patterns across different titles (PS2 games in particular).
Hey bro, is there a brightness switch on this cable? I have another component but it produces very dark blacks for ps2 on my crt tv so looking to get this cable.
This cable, unlike a lot of the HD Retrovision cables, does not feature a contrast/brightness switch. PS2 looks stellar on my consumer CRT with these, though.
@@RetroTechSelect thanks for the response. I ended up getting a cheap s video cable which works fine.
The Retro Gaming Cables PlayStation 2 Component Cables as well as their RGB SCART cables
I'm also a fan of the Retro Access Dreamcast cable as well. I hope to put together something to show that cable off soon.
@@RetroTechSelectthe video quality also depends on the model of both PlayStation 1 and PlayStation 2, I personally have a SPCH-9002 PlayStation 1 and a SPCH-39003 PlayStation 2
I can't find these anywhere
I just checked around in the usual places as well. They do seem out of stock anywhere I would normally recommend. Hopefully HDR does a restock soon!
Can´t buy, because Amazon pay plugin refers to Amazon.co.uk. Even with bank account information on another amazon domain, Amazon refuses to create it.
That's really weird. I wonder if there's a workaround.
What switcher u use?
I use a pair of GE 73344 mechanical component switchers. When I got my first one they were dirt cheap (~$10), but they aren't produced any more and I ended up paying about $30 for the second one.
I love that they give me no visible signal degradation and don't require any power. I already have four power strips filled behind my setup, I don't need any more devices plugged in :D
You should not hope for YPbPr Cables for Dreamcast, these uses only 240p/480i Signal. So the VGA Output is better.
That's what's special about the HD retrovision cables. They will support 480p and 240p over ypbpr (component). I'm guessing that conversion process is what has slowed down their release.
@@TheRealGara Since the Dreamcast isn't outputing this over these way, VGA will be the superior option.
@@GUN2kify the retrovision cables are doing a conversion. Vga to ypbpr. That's what us special about them and why people are waiting.
@@TheRealGara so it is just a VGA to YPbPr Converter, than not all games will work, sadly. But the most. ;)
But then thers no difference to your external converter. It just recreates the YPbPr from RGB (they exist in VGA).
btw: RGB , VGA and YPbPr are component signals , taht would make the irritation plausible.
@@GUN2kify it's more than that. It's honestly not something that would fit my setup, but ftom what I understand the HD-retrovision version of these cables will offer seemless ypbpr output while supporting the entire dreamcast catalog of rgb and vga games. So you'd get support for 240p, 480i, and 480p over ypbpr. Which is exciting for certain use cases.
Component seems to be the common use way to refer to ypbpr so I tend to fall back on calling it that in order to not confuse people. I should probably just stop that.
Does it work with full screen? I hate black borders
The cables pass the image as-is, but most scalers and TVs have an option to stretch to 16:9.
@@RetroTechSelect can you recommend one?
@@inderjeetuppal6462 TV or scaler?
@@RetroTechSelect both really
@@inderjeetuppal6462 I will probably take grief for this, but I think TCL 4K TVs are a great value for money. Not the highest end devices, but they are inexpensive and perform well.
RetroTINK products are the gold standard for upscaling right now. The TINK 4K is the top of the line, but the RT5X is going to be all that most folks will need. The 2X line is also excellent and much more afforable, but it lacks a lot of the features that the newer models have.
game name in 2:15?
That's 007: Agent Under Fire.
Run a ps2 game on a bc ps3
They do look pretty decent on the PS3. Keep in mind: only the early "fat" model PS3s support PS2 games on a hardware level.