Citroen C1 Bigger Injectors Installed, C1/Aygo/107 Yaris Injectors, Easy/Cheap Performance Upgrade
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- Make a Citroen C1 Faster?
Yaris 1.5 T-Sport Injectors fitted to 1kr engine and compared to standard. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
These motors are gold. Just like being 17 again when driving 'The Tin Can'!
Exactly! Easy to drive and too slow to hurt yourself in.
The 2.0L Toyota celica injectors work as well but you need to map them in. Ram air intake, polished and ported head, sportex exhaust and 2.0 litre injectors, currently running 115bhp and weighs in at 568kg
Yes I looked into those first but need the duration changing as they won’t trim. 115bhp n/a?
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos yes, tuned an dynod at mana performance it is pushing it a lot so keep that in mind, it like to murder the exhaust valves quite a bit
@@alexashurst512 that’s some going. Didn’t even know that kind of power had been done N/A on these. What does it rev to? What torque is it making and where in the rev range is peak power?
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos revs to just below 8k, peak power is at 6900, the torque is 152NM not an extravagant improvement if you think about it lightly but when combined with such a low weight it rlly is a blast on A and B roads
Sadly the gearbox did decided it no longer wanted to hold its self together last night so she’s currently sitting in my unit
After fitting these bad boys you now need Smokey Nagata to do a top speed run in it down the A1 👍
I asked him,.. but he said he’s too afraid and that he probably wouldn’t be able to handle the power.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos 🤣🤣 serious tho considering buying one of these as a rumabout
@@jacko2815 do it.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos I had one as a hire car in Italy with all my luggage 2 cad seats n kids n wife I fucking hated it but was up and down mountains in it was nt the car you wanted
I went to the city in Italy in it and we great car. I'm in London so be spot n here as a rjmabout
Glad I watch you do it so I can tick it off my things of what not to bother with 😁👍
Haha. It’s actually one of the better mods tbh
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos yeh I watched the second video I take it back 🤣🤣 just done the 8 quid reversing sensors, keep up the videos very entertaining 👍🤣
@@jcreswick haha another sic mod. Thanks mate.
I'm impressed it does 70 in 2nd. I haven't driven a car that does that in a while. My current car will just tip 60 but it's a diesel so that's pushing it
Yea almost 70 in second. It’s long geared for a 1.0. Gets to about 35 in 1st, 65 second and 90 in third! That’s the same ratios as my old Volvo V70 T5!
My 330d 6 speed only does about 50-55 in second.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos my mum's old 106 was the same very long 2nd. My current is a 6 speed too. Not sure how I managed it... one day I was racing someone and hit such a nice boost curve I was doing 110 in 4th 😂 suddenly realised.. then 5th only goes up to 125. 6th will do me good for 140 bit it whines like a bitch so I don't push it that hard that often any more. I used to daily to work at 130mph for 3 years straight. Absolute tank 😆😆
@@MaNNeRz91 what car is it?
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Renault Laguna with the widely used 2.0 DCI in all the Nissan's Vauxhall's and Renault's.
I bought it because I wanted a reliable turbo diesel that was cheaper to insure than most.
It was cheap for its mileage and condition. (89k 1 owner)
I gave it absolute abuse for 3 years (now 175k miles) and the turbo started showing signs of oil passing the seals (weirdly thatwent to the air filter and not the intercooler) 🤯
I've stuck a better turbo on it and decat. Egr delete and all that good stuff. Still pulling strong.
Try getting rid of the airbox cover and old filter
Install a 50 mm motorcycle sports filter instead.
I did it on my Aygo, and it works fine
Cheers
Great video. More measurements need to be made.
Yea I agree that I could have been more thorough with the comparison.
Not sure if you’ve seen already, but I did some more measuringtons.
czcams.com/video/a3jBTvyxZm8/video.html
Sorry to go off at a tangent but what's with that air filter? Have you added an extra flat pad of filter material or is this just a brand I've never seen? Cheers
Yea it’s unusual for them to have that but it’s just part of the filter. Different manufacturers sometimes change them slightly, but I can’t remember what make it is though.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Thanks. It is quite unusual, yes.
Could the responsiveness be because the injectors are cleaner? Maybe worth cleaning the old ones and see if that helps?
I had already cleaned the old injectors previously. I show the process in more detail too in this video
czcams.com/video/LXz0aCp4zOA/video.html
I’m actually currently doing some more in-depth comparisons of the standard vs Yaris injectors for a future video too.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos ah okay, I'll check it out. Cheers.
Hi do you have the injector part number so I can make sure I get the correct ones when I come to do mine thanks, keep up the work as love watching things on the bug.
Sorry mate I’ve not got the number. The way I found them was to search for someone breaking a Yaris TSport on eBay and message the seller to ask for the injectors from it, but these days they seem harder to find and more expensive. Probably cos people wanna buy them for their bugs 🤣
And thanks mate!
So a definite difference in performance. That can make all the difference when you are trying to overtake in one of these cars.
Definitely yes. I only drove it for about 10 miles after fitting them before making the video, but I’ve driven it a bit more now and it’s not massive but a definite noticeable difference. It’s also smoother. I’m surprised to be honest.
Overtake? You mean 'keep up' surely?
I'm not even sure why these roller skates need/have mirrors? By the time you look at whatever's behind you, it's already in front.
@@sally6457 not realy. I drive on autostrada and it is ok. In city it is great. I can easy overtake a vw golf 1.4..... or a sheet corsa 1.2. Top speed it is no more then 165 km/h tested by me but it is ok.....
@@dudurosca273 while your trying to overtake you are blocking my lane! Hahaha!
@@dudurosca273 These stock aygos fucking shit on corsas. Every 1.2 I come across gets shat on. A lot of 1.4s get trashed aswell 😈
had no idea i had three lathes in the shed toolbox. Gr8 skillz anyway
This one even has a 3 jaw chuck for auto centralisation too!
Surely it's just gonna show a negative ltft ? And have zero difference after it's done a few drive cycles ?
Can these ECUs be remapped via obd?
The ecu can be remapped but this hasn’t been, and I’d have thought similar,.. I’d have expected any differences just to be filtered out by fuel trimming but they just don’t seem to be. It’s done probably about 1000 miles or more with them in and definitely runs better on them. It’s mainly noticeable at cruising revs than anywhere else. It is also noticeably worse on fuel though.
Yeah it will trim it down, along as the difference isn't too large it should be fine
How much did it cost you to make all this .greetings from geece🇬🇷🇬🇷
Not much. I paid about £40 for the injectors second hand.
Try it with the induction kit to ensure the air to 'fool' ratio is optimised. Hahaha!
(And No, I haven't misspelled anything)
This is something I have already considered 🤣
only after upgrading the brake and suspension systems to cope surely?
@@rodneyhull9764 probably not a bad shout but tbh the brakes are actually overkill as standard anyway.
@@rodneyhull9764 springs from a biro and Shimano v brakes would be an upgrade.
I suggest the old Reliant method; find a speed trap at the bottom of a long steep hill, wind the window down and shout....meowmmmm, as loud as you can while you pass by.
Send your parking fine on a postcard to, PO.box 2 slow 2 FL45H. SP30 TKT, London. Hahaha
Hello, can you try this upgrade with bioethanol ? It could be run perfectly ...
I think I would need much much bigger injectors to run on ethanol, probably about 150% flow rate but I’m not sure. If I could get hold of some I’d throw it in the give it a try though 🤷♀️
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Its maybe to late answer, but you need about 30% bigger injectors to run on bioethanol/E85. With ethanol, the engine will run better due to a high octane rating of 104. The engine internals will be clean so do the hole fuel system. Its gona be more reliable and have more power, and ethanol makes less wear on the engine than petrol
Great video, could you please chuck a link to the Yaris Injectors (on whatever site) here so I can grab some? :)
Thanks. I don’t have a link to the injectors unfortunately as I got them from a breaker on eBay. I just searched for someone breaking a Yaris T-Sport and messaged them for the injectors.
I did however make another video doing a more in-depth comparison of the performance gains it’s. Here’s a link to that if you’re interested:
czcams.com/video/a3jBTvyxZm8/video.htmlsi=S9qyt-1pASJ-d9oL
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos yeah no worries, I have watched both videos and am looking at getting some of these for my '08 107. Will find some on Ebay and post here for others 👍
@@harveyfisher23 I’m not sure if these are the right ones, but yea if you find a readily available set that work, deffo post the link on here
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225790379957?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=wx8rzbjssus&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=B24T_G0JTKS&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I wonder how much more it would gain if you put on that massive air filter and route the cold air intake properly - without cutting a hole on the bonnet again.
In fact I wonder if the ECU would start to struggle with more air and fuel being injected?
It should be easier for the Ecu to get the mixture with the bigger injectors than it was with the standard ones
that silver aygo has it running at 97/8 hp and my C1 is running about 90hp but needs more tuning to get the correct a/f ratio and a proper exhust that isnt just racing headers.
@@dillonlee3229 Can you explain the mods for C1?
That silver aygo has a channel about his mods as well as TSA performance having an instagram page where you can buy the mods. my C1 is running near the same setup with some diffreinces. my C1 has tspot yaris injectros, piper racing exhust, full 2.5" stainless exhust. bigger coil packs, stage 2 flash tune and a TSA Induction Kit (Non A/C). this set up could do with a dyno tune but im unable to fine the people to do it where i live so it does overfule on the tune but iv changed cars while i put a turbo on it.
Would celica 1.8 injectors fit? (2004) No Yaris t sport injectors available in my country.
or maybe any other more common vehicles. that would fit.
Not sure to be honest, but I’m pretty sure the duty cycle would need adjusting by mapping if they do fit.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos i did found 2NZFE injectors (1.3 engine) i'm pretty sure they are the same as 1.5?
@@Jelle102 honestly not sure, but they could be.
i want to do this.
but modfications are mostly illegal in israel.
so im asking: when im doing the yearly test for the car. would they see it or does it looks normal but just green?
sheesh
I doubt they would notice it to be honest mate unless they were looking for them, they look the same but green.
Combine this with a 1NR throttlebody and a cone filter to compensate for extra horses.
Or go further and yank on that crazy expensive ITB kit with some 2.0 injectors
I’d love to do something like that but I’d have to get a lot more views than I do currently, to help pay towards it 😂
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos I feel you lad, but it could make for one crazy ride! Love your vids, keep them going :)
@@z-trip5457 I’d love to fit a supercharger or a turbo, I could get a cheap shitter off eBay for couple of hundred quid but I’d never find the time to do it way things are at the moment. Maybe one day and cheers. As long as I’ve time to make them and stuff to film, I’ll keep them coming 🙃
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos I heard good stuff about the amr500, cheap af and not too hard to install, who knows!
@@z-trip5457 yes. I’ve looked into these. About £200
I have a 2012 vtr+ facelift model, my injectors look exactly like those tsport Yaris ones. Have you any idea what ones came stock in my poverty car?
Some of the later ones did have green injectors, but they’re not the same as the Yaris ones.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos I thought as much, where did you pick yours up. They’re dear as everywhere I’m looking. Thanks
@@jackdyet2902 I got them off eBay. I just typed in Yaris T-sport braking and message the seller asking for them
Any one have an idea what the cc/min is on the standard injectors?
Sorry mate, no idea
What model is your car. I have a Peugeot 10 (2011). This does have a toyota engine 1.0 petrol. What is your opinion??👍 And which toyota yaris are the injectors from?
It’s a 2007 Citroen C1. If you have a Peugeot 107 then it’s effectively the same car as yours, same engine etc. The injectors are from a Yaris T-Sport
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Thanks a lot, great work!! Take care!!
@@evka3220 cheers mate, and you too.
Tried this with mine a year ago and it barely ran, stalled whenever I tried to pull off. Suggestions?
What injectors did you try? Sounds like you could have gone too big and over fuelling?
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos exact same ones you used
@@Thatsilveraygo didn’t have any air leaks around the injectors did you?
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos might have done, the o rings aren't reusable
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos that and I didn't cut down the slot where the o ring sits like you did
Hello, I have a suggestion since you like tinkering with your C1. Can you please try to install a bigger oil filter ? older 1KRFE engine that have recently started burning a little oil may benefit a bit from a bigger oil filter. If you decide to do it please tell us the exact oil filter product number so we can duplicate it. Thank you
I don’t think it would make any difference with that tbh, but it would probably last longer before getting clogged up
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos If you are willing to try it I did some research and have suggestions
@@isymdvrI might give it a go next oil change
your pcv valve could be blocked, or its just reaching that age, mine is at 150k miles and i use a bit thinker oil and it stops it burning as much
@@dillonlee3229 i have changed the pcv valve and yes i do use thicker oil. Would an oil catch can help minimising oil consumption ?
Did you say the exact part number make model of the injector ? please let us know
I didn’t get the part number, but the injectors are from a Yaris 1.5 T-Sport. Around 2004 model. Probably better to get some used ones out of the correct car than buy new aftermarket ones I’ve seen on eBay in my opinion.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Thank you
What year Yaris and what engine size
Yaris T-Sport 1.5, about a 2003 or so iirc
Hi mate got a check engine light from doing this and it ended up running too rich so swapped back to the stock injectors. Tried all the normal stuff to reset the light but nothing has worked, any ideas of what to do?
What year is your car? I’ve not heard of anyone else having that issue and it’s quite a popular mod on these cars. Was it definitely running rich and not lean? I’ve seen people have lean issues due to the seals not fitting right and drawing air in.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos 2009 mate, it was blowing white smoke, smelled of petrol and exhaust tip was black
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos is it one of those codes where you have to clear it with a reader?
@@gregcornes8912 interesting. White smoke wouldn’t indicate overfueling. It was probably just condensation if it was cold. It’s not a big job to fit them. I’d reset it on a code reader and maybe try again after a bit of a drive.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Only problem is I'm trying to get it through its MOT🤣
Are these yaris injectors are available to purchase, which will plug and play to C1?
You’ve just got to find someone breaking a Yaris T-sport to make sure to get the right ones but prices seem to have gone up since I made this video
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos : I found a 220£ option and a 20£ option. Any idea why the huge difference? Which one to go for ? Links in the following
@@sayanpal9491 I think since people realised you can fit them to these cars, the prices of used ones has rocketed.
get a scanner app on it and see what fuel trims are
That’s a good idea.
Do you happen to have a product number or a link ?
Hi, they’re the standard injectors from a mk1 Yaris 1.5 TSport
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos ahhh sweet can you happen to pm a link with on fb or Instagram with the ones you bought cheers
@@Tiggerr88 I would but I don’t have a link as such. I just searched eBay for someone breaking a Yaris T-Sport, and messaged the seller asking if they would sell me the injectors.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos cheers much appreciated
@@Tiggerr88 no problem mate
Anyone ever told you, you sound just like Deady 2012?
They have now 😂
don't get it... what's the point of fiting bigger injectors if there is no change in amount of delivered air? only with more air more fuel make any sense...
Good question. Cars from the factory are set up as a compromise, and usually performance is held back in favour of fuel economy and more so emissions. These definitely made a noticeable difference without even mapping them in.
Get e85 fuel with no reprog 😉
Your Fame, Has spread far and wide Tim.
I’m hot on the heels of Chris Fix and Garage 54, and thanks for the help 😃
Stupidity can run around the world, before intelligence gets it's boots on!
I've tried fitting these and it runs like a dog, and then when putting the original injectors back in it was even worse 😂
😬. I’ve spoken to you on the Facebook groups about this earlier today didn’t I?
Keep us updated how you get on!
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Yes mate, and I will, hopefully it's sorted out soon
This was way too scientific for my liking!
It’s ok, I’ve just counteracted that by uploading a really unscientific video.
Shove a yaris t sport engine in.
Do the injectors alone not turn the c1 into an actual Yaris T-Sport?
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos got to admit it would be an exciting engine swap? Not sure about the handling but it would make the car fly.
@@Mybwain if I had time to do it, I’d probably consider something like that. I’d like to turbo the shitter for a laugh, but time is the enemy of anything like that at the moment.