Why the US Army electrifies this water

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2022
  • The Chicago and Sanitary Ship Canal is the path that invasive carp would take to reach the Great Lakes. So to stop them, the US Army Corps of Engineers has installed an electric barrier. Although for obvious reasons, I didn't get to see it close up. [The interviewee is project manager Jeff Zuercher, whose name caption got missed out! Apologies, Jeff.]
    Sources, apart from the interview and the team I talked to:
    www.npr.org/templates/story/s...
    www.npr.org/2009/12/04/121104...
    www.npr.org/templates/story/s...
    apnews.com/article/d44c3701de...
    dnr.wi.gov/news/mediakits/mk_...
    Edited by Dave Stevenson www.davestevenson.co.uk/
    Thanks to Captain Nate at Peoria Carp Hunters peoriacarphunters.com/
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  • @maxsalmon4980
    @maxsalmon4980 Před rokem +15506

    I hope the carp don't figure out how to dig a tunnel past this. Those carpal tunnels can be wicked.

    • @sarar4901
      @sarar4901 Před rokem +1256

      Username checks out.

    • @LHyoutube
      @LHyoutube Před rokem +136

      Baha classic! 😂

    • @ann_onn
      @ann_onn Před rokem +402

      I've heard carp'll tunnel, but it can be prevented with a wrist-rest.

    • @justinlokere
      @justinlokere Před rokem +78

      Booooooo

    • @cf453
      @cf453 Před rokem +215

      Don’t be koi, Max.

  • @onenof10
    @onenof10 Před rokem +48456

    One interesting thing not mentioned: the local paramedics have been given a 'no rescue' order. If you foolishly go into or near the electrified water and become injured, no one will come save you. The risks to the rescue personnel are too high.

    • @NoahGooder
      @NoahGooder Před rokem

      so basicly this deters hopefully even more people because if you try it you will die and we wont save you.

    • @NoahGooder
      @NoahGooder Před rokem +1

      they should have possibly also added the recording of your death will end up on liveleak

    • @boysteacher3818
      @boysteacher3818 Před rokem +3257

      Woah that's insane

    • @qwertycoupe
      @qwertycoupe Před rokem +4552

      Good to remember when im old and its time to go 😂

    • @stueyphone
      @stueyphone Před rokem +1131

      @@phantomsticc3685 It's like the great filter

  • @davel9130
    @davel9130 Před rokem +1239

    It's a constant battle. The Great Lakes are also constantly fighting other invasive species like Zebra Mussels. They're non-native and mess with all kinds of things. I believe they arrived in the ballast water tanks of large ships.

    • @brsnow225
      @brsnow225 Před rokem

      Zebra mussel has been plague for at least 30 years as far as I’ve known.

    • @emo65170.
      @emo65170. Před rokem +54

      It's true. The zebra mussels have made their way all the way down to the lakes and waterways in and around Austin, Texas. The mussels collect around water intake pipes of the municipal drinking water supply, reducing intake flow. Their microscopic eggs make it past the initial filters have to be eliminated chemically (copper) and additional filtering stages are required remove the smell of decomposing mussels

    • @Rath_9
      @Rath_9 Před rokem +9

      They plug up our waterlines at work all the time. Coincidentally from the location featured in this very video albeit I believe it’s a mile or so upstream

    • @fjb3544
      @fjb3544 Před rokem +1

      I think we have bigger issues to worry about. Social justice for one, diversity and inclusion another.

    • @Reutviv
      @Reutviv Před rokem +61

      @@fjb3544 did you know that it is possible to care about multiple issues at the same time?

  • @BilgeDweller
    @BilgeDweller Před rokem +655

    I was the engineer on a boat that regularly passed through here while the barrier was being built and later while it was in 24/7 operation. The narrator is telling it like it is; we were not allowed on tow or on deck while transiting the barrier. I understand that a second barrier is to be built on the downstream of Brandon Road Lock in Joliet, as well.
    They have highway style programmable warning signs above and below the barrier, my crew wanted to hack the signs so that the last line it displayed was "FISH FRY TONITE!" 🙂

    • @domingorodriguez3077
      @domingorodriguez3077 Před 8 měsíci

      is it really that interesting? 🤷

    • @katanah3195
      @katanah3195 Před 6 měsíci +12

      Making the signs say Fish Fry would be hilarious.
      Did you read Captain Underpants growing up? This strikes me as very George and Harold.

    • @BilgeDweller
      @BilgeDweller Před 6 měsíci +7

      I already had my USCG engineer's license before Captain Underpants came out!
      Anyway, we had a lot of fun joking about it. :-)

    • @filipkohout4704
      @filipkohout4704 Před 3 měsíci +7

      ​@@domingorodriguez3077 yes it is, unlike you

  • @Kineticboy2K1
    @Kineticboy2K1 Před rokem +9753

    If you said "Guess why you can't kayak from the Gulf of Mexico to the great lakes." none of my guesses would be "because of a deadly electric fish barrier."

    • @PokerageAH
      @PokerageAH Před rokem +551

      I mean you could still do it, youd just have to go the long way down the St.Lawrence river

    • @rcschmidt668
      @rcschmidt668 Před rokem +146

      How about finding a way to keep snakes from the Amazon from swimming to the Everglades?

    • @gasstationsushi5842
      @gasstationsushi5842 Před rokem +14

      @@rcschmidt668 😂

    • @snev7545
      @snev7545 Před rokem +229

      You’d wanna start at the Great Lakes. Otherwise your paddling up stream

    • @valinor5397
      @valinor5397 Před rokem +21

      The guy said it only stuns the fish so how would it kill a human

  • @TomScottGo
    @TomScottGo  Před rokem +16636

    One of the safety rules I had to follow while filming was "don't touch two different metal things at the same time", just in case of any stray voltage. That's how powerful the barrier is.

  • @wienerrrrrrrrrrr
    @wienerrrrrrrrrrr Před rokem +243

    Asian carp have ruined the fishing and water quality of so many lakes around where I live, I shudder thinking of how catastropic it would be if these fish get to the great lakes. Thanks Tom for helping to raise awareness about this huge issue!

    • @cageybee7221
      @cageybee7221 Před rokem +1

      when they found one carp in lake michigan they dumped 3 tons of poison into the part they found it in just to be sure.

    • @glebglub
      @glebglub Před 8 měsíci +8

      the solution is simple: bears! lots and lots of bears! and then chimps to befriend the bears and groom them to remove any eggs in a symbiotic relationship! what could go wrong? nothing, I tell you!

    • @aintnoboulder
      @aintnoboulder Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@glebglubi heartily agree! there will be no long term or unseen consequences. let's get her done

    • @kingtaco1725
      @kingtaco1725 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Imagine some dude does a little trolling and brings the fish to the Great Lakes.

    • @wienerrrrrrrrrrr
      @wienerrrrrrrrrrr Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@kingtaco1725 he would realistically go to prison for life for causing trillions of dollars of damage

  • @takovata2676
    @takovata2676 Před 9 měsíci +21

    I find it ironic how the little plant behind Tom is an Ailanthus altissima (chinese tree of heaven) - an invasive species that is an entirely different problem of its own and how it isnt bothered by the huge facility for preventing IAS spread its growing on.

  • @dracticarchive
    @dracticarchive Před rokem +6138

    “US Army Electric Fish Barrier” is objectively incredibly funny and just seems like one of those web titles you’d see in Futurama as a headline for a news paper

    • @JoeSmith-qy6qo
      @JoeSmith-qy6qo Před rokem +4

      I asked

    • @thomaskositzki9424
      @thomaskositzki9424 Před rokem

      Did you not notice yet?
      We DO live in a Futurama'esque world.
      Some random wanna-be dictator was elected president of the USA, made conspiracy theories widely accepted "facts" (over 50% of the US population believes his BS), violated dozens of laws, instigated an coup d'etat, broke national security (nuclear weapons documents at home, awesome)... and has real chances of being re-elected in two years.
      God help us all if that happens.
      Greetings from Germany

    • @JoeSmith-qy6qo
      @JoeSmith-qy6qo Před rokem +2

      @@thomaskositzki9424 ok

    • @woodywood1951
      @woodywood1951 Před rokem +16

      objectively incredibly funny... poor guy...

    • @JoeSmith-qy6qo
      @JoeSmith-qy6qo Před rokem +4

      @@woodywood1951 rude

  • @YTPEXPERT
    @YTPEXPERT Před rokem +15906

    Tom has found the greatest niche. Interesting things are everywhere. I'm just glad someone interesting finds these interesting places

    • @scalpingsnake
      @scalpingsnake Před rokem +161

      I wonder how he is able to get access to all these areas. I would guess in a similar way a documentary or news crew would?

    • @KrackerUncle
      @KrackerUncle Před rokem +153

      @@scalpingsnake I think they want to show their job to a öarge amount of ppl. they know its cool, but I`d seriously doubt even many ppl in that area even know about it.

    • @sadpee7710
      @sadpee7710 Před rokem +7

      i haven't found any of these

    • @Wasserkaktus
      @Wasserkaktus Před rokem +76

      His niche is quirks of civil engineering.

    • @apersoniguess_
      @apersoniguess_ Před rokem +9

      @@KrackerUncle funny word

  • @Miz2077
    @Miz2077 Před rokem +4

    In just four months, this has become one of Tom's most popular videos. Good Job.

  • @DaHoodedBandit
    @DaHoodedBandit Před 7 měsíci +3

    I work at the refinery attached to this place and Its so cool to see someone I watch regularly on CZcams film where I work and make a video about things that actually directly impact me.

    • @tangyorange6509
      @tangyorange6509 Před 23 dny

      Hey anyway I can get into that refinery I’m a photographer that’s been wanting to take photos in there for ages

  • @Dalton_Boardman2000
    @Dalton_Boardman2000 Před rokem +8860

    Loved how he explained how a fish could get knocked out and essentially wake up like someone would in a ditch after a bender.

    • @daviswhite3591
      @daviswhite3591 Před rokem +237

      Fish get a nap but people get dead?
      My lily white ass!

    • @oliverlorenz9726
      @oliverlorenz9726 Před rokem +46

      @@daviswhite3591 what

    • @Mr.Oblivian
      @Mr.Oblivian Před rokem +18

      Found the Redditor

    • @akschmidt2085
      @akschmidt2085 Před rokem +137

      @@daviswhite3591 A human could go into the water exactly were the barrier is. The fish cannot, they have to swim towards it in the water which conducts and get stunned further down would be my guess.

    • @monotheis6889
      @monotheis6889 Před rokem +25

      Dude, where's my carp?

  • @noanswer1864
    @noanswer1864 Před rokem +7094

    There's something magical about reading the words "US ARMY ELECTRIC FISH BARRIER" on a GUI, and also knowing that it's powerful enough for just standing near it to be at least mildly concerning for a human.

    • @potat3746
      @potat3746 Před rokem +175

      2:20 if anyone wanna missed it

    • @flyaround312
      @flyaround312 Před rokem +277

      A greater than 50% chance of cardiac arrest is more than "mildly concerning"

    • @Moehre040
      @Moehre040 Před rokem +208

      @@flyaround312 the cardiac arrest thing was when someone entered the water. The "mildly concerning" part was clearly not referring to that.

    • @Brunosky_Inc
      @Brunosky_Inc Před rokem +91

      I hope whoever designed that GUI was giggling inside while writing that

    • @ember3579
      @ember3579 Před rokem +31

      When something has enough electricity in it to hum like that, it's also very ready to arc off into your car keys, your glasses, your bone fracture plates, or just you directly if you get close enough. Why more birds don't cook from landing on wires is beyond me.

  • @a.e.jabbour5003
    @a.e.jabbour5003 Před rokem +1

    This was really fascinating! Thanks!
    So many interesting stuff everywhere. Just need to learn about it. :)

  • @mariem.5613
    @mariem.5613 Před rokem +6

    This is such a funny example for how seemingly small mistakes sometimes require literally giant solutions

  • @ultramet
    @ultramet Před rokem +506

    Just stuns them. For a minute, I thought the Army Corps of Engineers had actually created the world’s largest fish fry .

    • @ChemEDan
      @ChemEDan Před rokem +55

      They already did by testing hydrogen bombs

    • @theprojectproject01
      @theprojectproject01 Před rokem +8

      Welll
      It is the Midwest, after all

    • @michelifig6356
      @michelifig6356 Před rokem +3

      Allll that money spent making 100% sure poor people go hungry

    • @scythal
      @scythal Před rokem +4

      @@michelifig6356 Feeding that carp to the poor would be torture

  • @SofronPolitis
    @SofronPolitis Před rokem +10361

    For anyone interested, a similar barrier has been proposed for the Suez canal in Egypt, to prevent fish from the Indian Ocean come to the Mediterranean. This migration is apparently facilitated by rising sea temperatures, and invasive species are already making a dent on the fish of the great Med. Most of them are inedible too (or even toxic to humans) so this is also a potential economic disaster for millions of people.

    • @Bestnightcoreofalltime
      @Bestnightcoreofalltime Před rokem +465

      @@mdrafiqul2898
      You are so funny that I threw up…

    • @apetogetherstrong4243
      @apetogetherstrong4243 Před rokem +71

      @@mdrafiqul2898 The ocean being named after a country is still bizarre to me despite being indian.

    • @railgap
      @railgap Před rokem

      reading the available literature, it appears that no electric barrier is ever 100% effective. But to be effective as a fish barrier, it would have to be 100% effective. Ergo, they are all boondoggles; wastes of the taxpayer's money. At best, electric barriers can DELAY the inevitable conflict by a few years tops.

    • @lukeothedukeo
      @lukeothedukeo Před rokem +78

      @@apetogetherstrong4243 I never really thought about it, but that is weird. Even if it was named for the Subcontinent altogether rather than the country, that's still unique since all the other oceans aren't named after landmasses like that.

    • @nk-dw2hm
      @nk-dw2hm Před rokem +62

      @@lukeothedukeo most oceans aren't small enough to be encircled by a single land mass. It's like if we called the gulf of Mexico the Mexican Ocean instead

  • @LarryOfCamalot
    @LarryOfCamalot Před rokem +201

    One of my favour parts of these videos is seeing the control systems for the processes. I work in industrial automation and very often have worked with things like the computers and instruments that are just a background element in the B-roll. I believe in one video it's stated that that really isnt' where Tom's interest lies, part of me enjoys that a bart of the videos that I am intersted in get no additional detail.

    • @Tufukins
      @Tufukins Před rokem +3

      It's so exciting to see those systems isn't it?

    • @jessesleight9631
      @jessesleight9631 Před rokem +4

      Why do you enjoy that there is no additional detail about your interests in the video?

    • @Tufukins
      @Tufukins Před rokem +1

      @@jessesleight9631 maybe it's knowing you're a mystery to everyone else

    • @LarryOfCamalot
      @LarryOfCamalot Před rokem +5

      @@jessesleight9631 I think it's partly wondering about the solutions myself, how I would be trying to control the systems or what about them is important. Also partly it's kind of par for the course for controls work, even the people who work closest with us don't really understand what we do.

  • @Thepersianpopinjay
    @Thepersianpopinjay Před rokem +7

    I think stories like this are such good examples of unintended consequences. Both the problem and it’s possible solutions come from long lists of potentially spiraling unintended consequences

  • @reddevilfan100
    @reddevilfan100 Před rokem +3324

    I'm loving this "Tom Scott tours the midwest" series!

    • @khalilahd.
      @khalilahd. Před rokem +10

      Same actually 😭

    • @BR-it2qe
      @BR-it2qe Před rokem +31

      I know, I feel like he is following me everywhere ago

    • @cmel7841
      @cmel7841 Před rokem +5

      yes living in minneapolis it has been fun to watch

    • @tiffanysandmeier4753
      @tiffanysandmeier4753 Před rokem

      And I thought he was touring the US since he also visited NYC, Yellowstone, and some town in Idaho in addition to the Midwest

    • @manwhas
      @manwhas Před rokem

      same

  • @gliixo
    @gliixo Před rokem +4541

    My dad and I canoed through a school of these on the Fox River in illinois, we were both hurt by fish jumping. They were everywhere!

    • @khalilahd.
      @khalilahd. Před rokem +85

      That’s terrifying 😕

    • @adud6764
      @adud6764 Před rokem +1

      fishually assaulted

    • @jimurrata6785
      @jimurrata6785 Před rokem +265

      There's a reason Tom's boat is surrounded in netting.

    • @evan5935
      @evan5935 Před rokem +133

      And that is just at canoe speed. When going at speed in an average personal craft, it can be lethal 🤷‍♂️🤯

    • @jamez6398
      @jamez6398 Před rokem +41

      That'd be enough to put me off wanting to canoe there again in the future...

  • @TheSwaggaking11
    @TheSwaggaking11 Před rokem

    Thanks for transparency

  • @AL.BUNDY.
    @AL.BUNDY. Před rokem +4

    Very interesting segment. I had no idea electric barrier existed.

  • @BrandosRides
    @BrandosRides Před rokem +1731

    There is no rescue plan only a recovery plan. Is what I was told if we fell into the water as a sub contractor on this project. There's so much electricity pumped into the ground that the nearby railroad track crossing would open randomly. Coolest project I've ever been on.

    • @HieronymousLex
      @HieronymousLex Před rokem +69

      Wow that’s crazy about the railroad track

    • @RandomUser2401
      @RandomUser2401 Před rokem +12

      so how does this crossing then operate? And if someone fell in, well maybe briefly switch the thing off?

    • @SailingFrolic
      @SailingFrolic Před rokem +178

      @@RandomUser2401 the risk to the ecosystem is too great for the recovery of 1 person.

    • @BrandosRides
      @BrandosRides Před rokem +133

      @@RandomUser2401I was told they would look for your body down the canal. Everyone was extra careful near that railing tom was near.

    • @RandomUser2401
      @RandomUser2401 Před rokem +2

      @@BrandosRides and the RR crossing?

  • @ericofire
    @ericofire Před rokem +3641

    I remember when they were setting this up. that was a scary few years. A lot of people thought it was too late. At one point they found a carp in the lake, so they literally poisoned a several mile stretch of the lake, killing everything so they could examine all the fish corpses. I dont remember if they found more. But these barriers couldnt go up fast enough.
    Ironically the lake is now being killed by clams. The water has never been cleaner, but they're apparently causing problems for other species
    As for closing the canal. It might be the right choice, but it will never happen. Chicago doesnt exist without the canal. I honestly believe they might go as far as poisoning the entire river before they closed the canal. It's that important to so many industries across multiple states.

    • @TuWear
      @TuWear Před rokem +141

      Clams are far easier to deal with than massive jumping Carps, so that is a close victoy.

    • @ericofire
      @ericofire Před rokem +252

      @@TuWear in a normal stretch of water this would be true. There is no fixing the great lakes. They're simply too massive. If an invasive species gets in, we aren't what will make them leave. Even with magnitudes unrealistic effort, there is nothing we could do

    • @m0rg4n1sm
      @m0rg4n1sm Před rokem +60

      zebra mussels are (getting) in(to) the great lakes too, aren’t they?

    • @SireneKalypso
      @SireneKalypso Před rokem +16

      @@m0rg4n1sm yes they are!

    • @wendyburrows4178
      @wendyburrows4178 Před rokem +6

      @@TuWear how do they get rid of the clams?

  • @buster4099
    @buster4099 Před rokem +105

    It’s incredibly scary to think what would happen if these defenses fail. Been unsettled by this ever since I learned about the carp problem. And I’m not even from the US

    • @crazydinosaur8945
      @crazydinosaur8945 Před rokem

      good thing terrorist are stupid and don't go after fish infastutere.
      right?!

    • @Rothbard_is_God8082
      @Rothbard_is_God8082 Před 13 dny +1

      People adapt and things change. This is just a huge waste of money to be honest. Too big to fail nonsense.

  • @ChannelOne-1
    @ChannelOne-1 Před 4 dny

    Great job engineers and operators!

  • @creepycoolgamer6758
    @creepycoolgamer6758 Před rokem +1564

    As a person who lives 5 miles away from this I did not know this was in fact electrified. Thanks Scott!

    • @SushiVolcano
      @SushiVolcano Před rokem +67

      I mean, if you went there, there would be signs and stuff.

    • @MagicHamsta
      @MagicHamsta Před rokem +329

      @@SushiVolcano If you went there, I'd imagine it would be quite shocking.

    • @nicholaskania9106
      @nicholaskania9106 Před rokem +49

      I live in Lemont IL and I’ve been along the canal bank. There is a sign that says “NO HUMAN BODY CONTACT OF ANY KIND ALLOWED”

    • @Laliux01
      @Laliux01 Před rokem +9

      Well… now we have a reason to dive in it, great!

    • @whyisblue923taken
      @whyisblue923taken Před rokem +1

      Go dip your toes and tell us what it's like.

  • @rileyhaynes2515
    @rileyhaynes2515 Před rokem +415

    "The US Army Corps of Engineers has built a wall of automated gun turrets to engage any hostile carp that attempt to rush the checkpoint"

    • @then00brathalos
      @then00brathalos Před rokem +35

      "if that don't work, use more guns"-Engineer probably

    • @MrTimothyRager
      @MrTimothyRager Před rokem +6

      @@then00brathalos To be fair, it is the *US Army*

    • @ashtonhoward5582
      @ashtonhoward5582 Před rokem +4

      Now, what people don't know is that they also have a gun range there for shooting carp a bit away from the automated defenses.

    • @thatmukundbalaji
      @thatmukundbalaji Před rokem +1

      'murica

    • @snailcheeseyt
      @snailcheeseyt Před rokem

      @@thatmukundbalaji ‘murica

  • @samuels1123
    @samuels1123 Před 8 měsíci

    One possible extreme measure not yet taken is a full on dry span with conveyors, dragging barges out of the water, over a mesh barrier and through pressure jets, into the other side

  • @giantfisher
    @giantfisher Před rokem +11

    Thank you Tom! Always so interesting and well presented. Sad how many times human-kind's best intentions have resulted in catastrophe (spitting atoms, an' all that).

  • @yuliannabaker635
    @yuliannabaker635 Před rokem +344

    Just stuns them. For a minute, I thought the Army Corps of Engineers had actually created the world’s largest fish fry

    • @marvincooper9926
      @marvincooper9926 Před rokem +35

      They did, thanks to yearly improvement it's no longer lethal

    • @mark7362
      @mark7362 Před rokem +24

      Toss frozen fishes in, use net, voila, dinner!

    • @carterjones8126
      @carterjones8126 Před rokem +3

      Army Engineers serving up fish, and chips for the local population.
      Turn your problem into profit.

    • @larrybud
      @larrybud Před rokem +1

      @@marvincooper9926 That doesn't sound like an improvement.

    • @notAshildr
      @notAshildr Před rokem

      @@larrybud Well, they only want to kill carp, not other fish.

  • @Ghastly10
    @Ghastly10 Před rokem +2267

    SImilar thing happened here in Australia in the 1930's, Sugar Cane farmers had problems with cane beetles, they decided to import the cane toad to deal with them. Unfortunately the toads were not interested in eating the beetles, and now we have plague proportions of cane toads that have decimated the native wildlife of the areas that they have invaded.

    • @devina8812
      @devina8812 Před rokem +114

      i cant emotionally handle stories like this

    • @court2379
      @court2379 Před rokem +32

      What about the rabbit problem too

    • @davo1188
      @davo1188 Před rokem +164

      @@court2379 Interesting story in the paper in the last 24 hours about how most of Australia's wild rabbits have been genetically traced to a bunch of just 24 rabbits that a colonist brought over for sport.

    • @Cringility
      @Cringility Před rokem +9

      We just couldn't use nature against itself

    • @PrintsOfDarkness
      @PrintsOfDarkness Před rokem +26

      @@court2379 I've not seen too many rabbits in the wild since the calicivirus was 'accidentally' released.

  • @TheAlixour
    @TheAlixour Před rokem +4

    Holy carp! This is ingenious.

  • @pastelbee8125
    @pastelbee8125 Před rokem

    It’s crazy hearing about things in places u live I did not expect to hear Peoria

  • @marcosmota1094
    @marcosmota1094 Před rokem +333

    Thanks for letting the engineer do the talking...he was very good in his explanation. Definitely deserves the job...

    • @sadpee7710
      @sadpee7710 Před rokem +27

      yes...he...does...why...am...i...adding...dots...

    • @ValterStrangelove4419
      @ValterStrangelove4419 Před rokem +14

      The Internet has spoken, and so the humble engineer gets to keep his job for another day.

    • @toxicvillain
      @toxicvillain Před rokem +1

      Paid actor.

    • @reduced2ash
      @reduced2ash Před rokem

      @@toxicvillain ?

    • @AmunRa1
      @AmunRa1 Před rokem +15

      As an engineer, being able to actually explain what we do to people outside of our profession is a skill that not a lot of us have.

  • @indigomer
    @indigomer Před rokem +788

    I appreciate Tom’s professionalism. Cruising CZcams watching funny things is nice, but every now and then these informational ones done very well are a nice refresh.

  • @TheTarrMan
    @TheTarrMan Před měsícem +1

    Dude I didn't know you were in Peoria. I live here. That's awesome. Hope you had a good time.

  • @sgtellioman
    @sgtellioman Před rokem +1

    Absolute score and win for the US Army Corps of Engineers

  • @emmalucas4177
    @emmalucas4177 Před rokem +300

    love that @1:22 Tom happens to be standing right in front of an Ailanthus altissima (aka Tree of Heaven) sapling, a horribly invasive tree that we brought over as an ornamental garden plant, and is currently doing much of the same as the carp he's talking about

  • @Noone-jn3jp
    @Noone-jn3jp Před rokem +51

    Ive worked on 3 different tests or other systems for the Corp and they didn’t go well. The only serious solution is to crank this system to 11 and fry everything moving through.

    • @geopolitix7770
      @geopolitix7770 Před rokem +1

      Do you know if they investigated a bubble curtain at all?

    • @Noone-jn3jp
      @Noone-jn3jp Před rokem +2

      @@geopolitix7770 That was actually the last test we did in October. The Corp used 3" pipes with .187" holes ever 2" placed perpendicular to the river flow at the head and tail of the lock.
      There was talk of using some thing similar to a fish tank aerator, the little stone thing on the end, but at the rate in which air would be supplied to make an effect there was a significant loss in bouncy, heading into the double digits and there was major concern when the lock is closed it would increase exponentially and causing damage to infrastructure.

    • @RainbowFlowerCrow
      @RainbowFlowerCrow Před rokem

      @@BOSS_DOG Or find a way to feed people!

    • @Noone-jn3jp
      @Noone-jn3jp Před rokem

      @@RainbowFlowerCrow Strangely wrap them in palm leaves (news paper) and steam them for 12 hours

  • @brosiffgaming1098
    @brosiffgaming1098 Před 7 měsíci

    My dad worked in Chicago and helped reverse the water flow. He helped dig and build tunnels.

  • @PokerageAH
    @PokerageAH Před rokem +2188

    The problem with the Asian Carp and the Great Lakes is that they arent just in the Illinois River. They are also making their way upstream from the east into Lake Erie, which presently lie unprotected...

    • @luvr381
      @luvr381 Před rokem +164

      From what I've heard, they're already a problem in Lake Erie.

    • @UnderwaterAlexJones
      @UnderwaterAlexJones Před rokem +109

      They've been in Lake Erie for a long time.

    • @Real28
      @Real28 Před rokem +215

      Yup, already been in here. Most fisherman know if they catch one, they kill it on the spot.

    • @jwalster9412
      @jwalster9412 Před rokem +34

      I like fish, so many I should take up fishing as a hoby.

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat Před rokem +131

      Grass carp are all over Lake Erie. They are trying to eliminating them by targeting their spawning grounds in the Sandusky and Maumee rivers. But they have nothing remotely like the insane concentration you see in this video in the Illinois.

  • @Nobodyyounowknow
    @Nobodyyounowknow Před rokem +1300

    Never thought Tom Scott would be visiting my town, I didn’t realize the electrified waterway was such a big deal until a bunch of videos got posted.

    • @MattsInTheBelfry
      @MattsInTheBelfry Před rokem +11

      Same, my dude

    • @horrorland11
      @horrorland11 Před rokem +16

      Same I pass over the 135th street bridge every day!

    • @SVTKing1908
      @SVTKing1908 Před rokem +10

      @@horrorland11 I go over that bridge all the time and I had no idea!

    • @MattsInTheBelfry
      @MattsInTheBelfry Před rokem +4

      @@SVTKing1908 I was there for the commemoration of that bridge!

    • @Kragith
      @Kragith Před rokem +11

      Being native to the area surely means you have a higher-than-average resistance to electricity. You could probably swim around in there all day an not feel a thing :O

  • @SpawnofChaos
    @SpawnofChaos Před rokem +10

    Maybe they should add a locks system where barges stop in the middle and they pulse the water in that middle zone with extra voltage a few times to make sure even smaller fish are knocked out. The locks could also double as a maintenance system, allowing them to block off the waterway entirely when the electric barrier needs to be serviced.

    • @StanSwan
      @StanSwan Před 9 měsíci +1

      And you don't think they considered that?

    • @SpawnofChaos
      @SpawnofChaos Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@StanSwan Maybe they have considered it.

  • @jacktorrance2633
    @jacktorrance2633 Před 3 měsíci

    "There is no way for the carp to get past this point." That's a good one dude!

  • @fireismyname1502
    @fireismyname1502 Před rokem +3508

    I've actually gone hiking many times right by the Illinois and Michigan canal, sometimes starting in Romeoville, Illinois. I never knew about invasive carp or the electrification of the canal, but I will say I did consider tresspassing and swimming in the canal for fun with the ships. I'll definitely be rethinking that idea. Great video.

    • @chrishines1979
      @chrishines1979 Před rokem +188

      I would never wanna swim in this canal lmao. The water is so nasty

    • @patbak235
      @patbak235 Před rokem +423

      Swimming with ships is a bad idea whether the water is electrocuted or not

    • @civil_villain
      @civil_villain Před rokem +250

      Trespassing and swimming with ships are unwise decisions regardless of any other factors.

    • @23Butanedione
      @23Butanedione Před rokem +184

      Trespassing and swimming with ships can be a very enjoyable, safe experience. Try it after dark, you'll have a great time

    • @benjio6046
      @benjio6046 Před rokem +76

      @@23Butanedione Oh ya! Also add an electric eel to your party to counter the electric barrier🤣

  • @joshtortorello
    @joshtortorello Před rokem +1474

    I actually worked on this job site before. If you drop a tool on the ground you have to pick it upin a specific way to avoid being shocked by excess current.

    • @mahoganywood6468
      @mahoganywood6468 Před rokem +59

      What specific way? I'm curious

    • @zollo911
      @zollo911 Před rokem +17

      Is it picked up like from the tip to bottom instead of all at once in the center?

    • @baldodormilin
      @baldodormilin Před rokem +12

      Making sure you're touching only ONE metallic object?

    • @sstills951
      @sstills951 Před rokem +152

      That's shocking.

    • @StealthyZombie
      @StealthyZombie Před rokem +20

      @@mahoganywood6468
      Rubber gloves

  • @ZebraGER
    @ZebraGER Před rokem +4

    When you forget the l in sparkling water

  • @middlekingdomproductions
    @middlekingdomproductions Před 3 měsíci

    Very interesting! thank you 😀

  • @nannerz1994
    @nannerz1994 Před rokem +2399

    I used to be a tour guide on the Chicago river and we would talk about these fish. The lakes also have a zebra mussel problem.
    Chicago's waterways and sanitation system is so interesting

  • @AaronSmith-kr5yf
    @AaronSmith-kr5yf Před rokem +4195

    That electric grid in the water is terrifying and I'm sure effective. I say terrifying because I had a friend years ago killed by being electrocuted in water. Faulty wiring on the boat dock, he dropped something in the water, went in to get it, horrible way to go. I wasn't there but I still get emotional thinking about that whole mess.

    • @alexandratodd6778
      @alexandratodd6778 Před rokem +224

      I’m sorry about your friend, I hope that in time, you can heal. ❤️

    • @MuddaFuqua
      @MuddaFuqua Před rokem +71

      Sorry for your loss🙏

    • @kei-lk2zv
      @kei-lk2zv Před rokem +19

      🙏

    • @myonionsmatter7843
      @myonionsmatter7843 Před rokem +9

      not an electrical grid

    • @gregchambers6100
      @gregchambers6100 Před rokem +284

      I'm an electrician. All my bosses and most of my friends are gone, I've seen many men die. This is 6 volts. Your buddy was killed with as low as 120 volts, or 208, 240 volts maybe as high as 277/480 volts. All are lethal. We try really hard to make sure what happened to your friend doesn't happen, but it's a matter of budget and will. The owners or operators don't usually understand the risks, become complacent, fail to test and maintain, and people die or get severely burnt or disfigured. 50,000 electrical fires in the US each year, 135 a day, not including electrocutions.

  • @lilesmw
    @lilesmw Před rokem +1

    Wow, I never knew it was that serious and close to the great lakes

  • @molliedevenbaugh1986
    @molliedevenbaugh1986 Před rokem +9

    I had know idea these were so close to getting into the Great Lakes. I’m a Michigander, and many of my greatest memories were spent at Lake Michigan. These would be devastating to our state!

  • @DevilGuitarMan
    @DevilGuitarMan Před rokem +25

    0:03
    The fish is like "heelloooooo"

  • @arlen_95
    @arlen_95 Před rokem +2908

    As a habitat ecologist, I HATE those 20th century American planners for their arrogance and hubris. They introduced countless invasive species as “solutions” to solve simple problems they were too lazy to deal with responsibly. So many amazing ecosystems across America have been utterly and irrevocably destroyed because of invasive species introduced by 20th century planners. My local ecosystem here on the Texas coast is Gulf Coast Tall Grass Prairie. There used to be 6.5 million acres of it here in Texas. Now over 99.9% of that habitat is lost, thanks in no small part to invasive species such as the Chinese tallow tree and various South American grasses.

    • @mbryson2899
      @mbryson2899 Před rokem +82

      Kudzu and ice plant also spring to mind.

    • @Dillyvl
      @Dillyvl Před rokem

      the native americans probably strongly agree with you, those invasive species ruined the place.

    • @Sinned0815
      @Sinned0815 Před rokem +32

      USA!!!!! USA!!!!! USA!!!! USA!!!!

    • @MildlyInterested_
      @MildlyInterested_ Před rokem +1

      Well they took the fastest and cheapest method, im not sure if they could even really know what would happen to the ecosystem 100ish years later. But hey it’s politicians who most of the time worry more about the next elections than about the future of the country so who knows if they would even care if they would have known it back then.

    • @dizzylilthing
      @dizzylilthing Před rokem +126

      Uncaring hobbyists introduced crayfish into our stocked and controlled fish ponds and now it's at the point where you can just stand on the side of the pond and haul out dozens and dozens of them. It's at the point where there's no rules about how many you can capture, just so long as you kill them on sight. You could sit on the shore with a hammer and just mush them up and fish n wildlife would just ask if they could bring you some water or coffee. It's revolting how shitty some people can be

  • @YosenjuBestDeck
    @YosenjuBestDeck Před 7 měsíci +2

    From what i know carp is just an invasive species, which is why people can overfish them, but at the same time they build lakes and breed carp in there specifically for fishing

  • @claudiamatolcsytorrington

    I learned something new today.

  • @ankurage
    @ankurage Před rokem +747

    I'm starting to worry that a single long blackout or a powerful solar storm would singlehandedly destroy the entire ecosystem all over the Great Lakes

    • @Romanticoutlaw
      @Romanticoutlaw Před rokem +81

      it would certainly make for an interesting zombie apocalypse setting

    • @Madcat1331
      @Madcat1331 Před rokem +248

      @@Romanticoutlaw Night of the Living *Carp*

    • @FurArmoredBear
      @FurArmoredBear Před rokem +5

      This almost made me choke

    • @mm-qd1ho
      @mm-qd1ho Před rokem +110

      I assume they must have standby diesel generators, but you are right - there are always vulnerabilities. I wonder how long the barrier could be down for without creating irreversible damage. A week? A day? An hour? Scary thought.

    • @scudosmyth784
      @scudosmyth784 Před rokem +17

      Probably have back up generators.

  • @Madnessnunky
    @Madnessnunky Před rokem +2009

    I think the idea of adding miniature "locks" makes a lot of sense. Bring the barge in, shut the door, shock the crap out of anything in the water with EXTREME voltages, the open the other door and send it on it's way. If power goes out, the door is still there. A few strategic high pressure pipes/gates will keep things out of the lock area when not open and maintain water flow.

    • @genghisthegreat2034
      @genghisthegreat2034 Před rokem +80

      Good idea, and give cathodic protection to the metal pipework

    • @oaktadopbok665
      @oaktadopbok665 Před rokem +92

      Those barges can't afford to stop for a do-nothing lock, let alone a bunch of them. Your idea makes zero sense.

    • @koharumi1
      @koharumi1 Před rokem +130

      It would be too slow for trade. In the world, USA especially, time is money.

    • @thecanuckredcoat4142
      @thecanuckredcoat4142 Před rokem +68

      Locks like that are in the great lakes, sure to hight changes Lake too Lake.
      Wouldn't be too much of an issue to add the electrification.

    • @giggabiite4417
      @giggabiite4417 Před rokem +221

      @@oaktadopbok665 Many canals use locks, the Panama Canal for instance, and the Grand canal in china. The amount of time spent in these places is not much more than at a regular checkpoint.
      It would slow things down a little bit, but not that much, especially if they set up multiple locks to deal with multiple barges at a time (which probably isn't even needed for this particular canal)

  • @clixris1739
    @clixris1739 Před rokem +1

    learned more from tom than i did from 12 years in school

  • @bluetooth5562
    @bluetooth5562 Před rokem +6

    Electric water? You mean Sprite?

  • @ignatiusb2859
    @ignatiusb2859 Před rokem +2422

    Finally someone of decent size commented on this. Believe it or not, my father got knocked out from an Asian carp jumping out of the water on the Illinois around the time this started. The things can get huge (by Midwestern standards).

    • @TheRealSkeletor
      @TheRealSkeletor Před rokem +29

      Size matters not.

    • @MommaARA
      @MommaARA Před rokem +16

      Wrong boyo. Size matters in everything.

    • @vaiapatta8313
      @vaiapatta8313 Před rokem +40

      @@TheRealSkeletor welll, in this case, size x speed is what matters.

    • @mandah2253
      @mandah2253 Před rokem +6

      Ik someone who has a broken arm from Peoria area 🤦

    • @4bidn1
      @4bidn1 Před rokem +10

      @@TheRealSkeletor keep telling yourself that buddy....

  • @ldoyle3rd
    @ldoyle3rd Před rokem +239

    My dad was part of the crew that built that pipeline in the background, one carries product and the other is for support. Pipefitters Local 597 Chicago, probably over 40 years ago.

    • @Cringility
      @Cringility Před rokem +10

      Respect and salutations to your father and his crew!

  • @Zipesthemanokit
    @Zipesthemanokit Před rokem +20

    i imagine this river as a kind of urban legend shared amonst fish families,all sit around their fish table
    "fish dad? why dont we go past the barrier of no fish return?"
    "son, there was once a story of the barrier of no fish return, nobody knows if its true or not... the barrier is impossible to get past, no matter what you do, you just wake up where you started."
    "why does that happen? fish dad?"
    *fish war flashbacks*

    • @tl8211
      @tl8211 Před 2 měsíci +1

      "We came here generations ago from waters far away, brought in by the land giants..."

  • @beastwizard1741
    @beastwizard1741 Před rokem +713

    I work on the Illinois River pushing barges, for the same company that owns the towboat in this video. I am actually sitting just a few miles from the electric barrier right now. We have to lay grounding wires between the barges and the boat pushing them. The voltage is enough that a loose connection can cause an arc strong enough to weld the wire to the deck fittings. A connection with an inadequate wire such as car jumper cables can actually melt the wire.

    • @PatrickKQ4HBD
      @PatrickKQ4HBD Před rokem +8

      Daaaaang!

    • @demil3618
      @demil3618 Před rokem +16

      Beat time to do your welding repairs on the boat then, free electricity 😁
      If only one could use it…
      But seriously: Wouldn’t it do any damage o on-board electronics?

    • @mark7362
      @mark7362 Před rokem +13

      Dont let any magic carp get onboard

    • @beastwizard1741
      @beastwizard1741 Před rokem +19

      @@demil3618 good question, but no. The hull and bulkheads of work boats is made out of 1/4" to 1/2" steel. All electronics and personnel are protected from electrical currents while inside. Any electronics on the exterior of the boat such as the radar and radio antennae are appropriately grounded. Smaller pleasure craft are not as adversely affected because they are not exposed to as much of the current due to their size, so it is safe for families to pass through the fish barrier, so long as they remain in the passenger portions of their vessels and do not make physical contact with the hull.

    • @beastwizard1741
      @beastwizard1741 Před rokem +27

      @@mark7362 the carp are rarely seen above Ottawa, but they are dealt with by the work boat crews with varying degrees of ruthlessness. Some guys simply kick them back in the water or blast them off the decks with a fire hose. Some use a sledgehammer to knock them off. I've seen one guy use a fire axe after a carp jumped out of the water and stole his cigarette out of his hand.

  • @gloriatetting8446
    @gloriatetting8446 Před rokem +301

    There's koi that got lose into lake Michigan when the barrier failed. This happened a couple of years ago. We have Japanese carp running around the lake. Plus idiots went down to the lake and dumped the tropical fish in or flushed them.

    • @slugcatpotatoes
      @slugcatpotatoes Před rokem +32

      Since they're invasive you should be legally allowed to catch and cook them, right? Koi anyone?

    • @Mephitinae
      @Mephitinae Před rokem +50

      At least nobody has purposely dumped these wild carps into the great lake. I mean, not yet right haha?

    • @Haiesta
      @Haiesta Před rokem +14

      @@Mephitinae don’t give them ideas

    • @TheSexiestGoblin
      @TheSexiestGoblin Před rokem +20

      @@Mephitinae time to do a bit of trolling :D

    • @UnChannelDuVulpineX
      @UnChannelDuVulpineX Před rokem +3

      *loose

  • @kaptein1247
    @kaptein1247 Před rokem +31

    its amazing how such a big project with tens of millions invested could be ruined by a single person if someone decides to throw a few carp in the river upstream

    • @hamke569
      @hamke569 Před rokem +19

      That's what happened in NZ, we had one rogue 'eco terrorist' who bred and released exotic fish all around the north island before he was caught. Quite interesting, but the damage he caused was massive

    • @bunk95
      @bunk95 Před 3 měsíci

      How could this portion of the slave system be ruined?

    • @warriyorcat
      @warriyorcat Před 3 měsíci

      No, it would happen in our lifetime. They have no predators and release hundreds of eggs at a time, so there's noting killing them. That's what happened with the zebra mussels.

  • @somethingtojenga
    @somethingtojenga Před 8 měsíci +1

    What a huge logistical nightmare just because some people brought some carp into the river.

  • @x--.
    @x--. Před rokem +684

    This is one of those times where I think the over-engineered solution they've come up is STILL NOT ENOUGH. Given the risks and the weaknesses.

    • @xenitefufu1109
      @xenitefufu1109 Před rokem +34

      You have to keep in mind that this barrier was planned and created 100 year ago.

    • @genghisthegreat2034
      @genghisthegreat2034 Před rokem +9

      It isn't enough

    • @CleverAccountName303
      @CleverAccountName303 Před rokem +99

      @@xenitefufu1109 no. The river direction was reversed long ago to keep pollution out of the Great Lakes. The fish barrier is much more recent.

    • @Hexnilium
      @Hexnilium Před rokem +37

      You can never over engineer for something that is irreversible.

    • @PeterKnagge
      @PeterKnagge Před rokem +1

      Anyone got a spare trawler net?

  • @LordJazzly
    @LordJazzly Před rokem +948

    Nice! We've got invasive carp here in Australia as well; it's on a smaller scale, because our rivers are smaller and more isolated from one another, but it's still bad. There's a control & eradication program running, and as a by-product of that you can get carp-derived plant fertiliser for quite cheap. That part is nice, at least.

    • @AtaraxianWist
      @AtaraxianWist Před rokem +88

      Just don't go to war with them. Really wouldn't help your track record.

    • @thursoberwick1948
      @thursoberwick1948 Před rokem +24

      @@AtaraxianWist That emu thing wasn't a "war". Just a CZcams trope.

    • @DvH_2
      @DvH_2 Před rokem +51

      @@thursoberwick1948 You speak of lies and utter horrible falsehoods.

    • @thursoberwick1948
      @thursoberwick1948 Před rokem +4

      @@DvH_2 You sound like a bot.

    • @AtaraxianWist
      @AtaraxianWist Před rokem +24

      @@thursoberwick1948 based bot

  • @shmang1485
    @shmang1485 Před rokem +1

    We only have to worry if the carp figure out how to open doors ...

  • @afusmackdown
    @afusmackdown Před 8 měsíci

    Amazing! Educated experts make decisions that are catastrophic.

  • @rogerbeck3018
    @rogerbeck3018 Před rokem +270

    Another Tom Scott production on a subject I did not know existed, that I am delighted to have spent 10 minutes of my life - thanks Tom

    • @yungblattt
      @yungblattt Před rokem

      I be making entertaining videos as well🤠

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před rokem

      Yes, time spent watching Tom's videos never go to waste.

  • @jjhake1
    @jjhake1 Před rokem +798

    As a Peorian, these carp are fun to watch when eating at the Steak and Shake in East Peoria, but I’ve heard stories of people being knocked unconscious from them. A few personal boats that go fishing in the Illinois have to have cages around their boats so that you don’t get knocked out yourself.

    • @Direblade11
      @Direblade11 Před rokem +42

      Never been, but I kinda want to stand on a large boat and try to punch fish

    • @jjhake1
      @jjhake1 Před rokem +112

      @@Direblade11 wouldn’t recommend it, had a buddy of mine get fish scales deep in his knuckles from punching a fish that his buddy threw at him while fishing.

    • @davidjones332
      @davidjones332 Před rokem +48

      In a way it's rather satisfying that the fish actually get to beat up the fishermen. It's been one-way traffic for too long!

    • @juleswinnfield1246
      @juleswinnfield1246 Před rokem +15

      Good fish are fishing back

    • @henrikoldcorn
      @henrikoldcorn Před rokem +24

      @@Direblade11 perhaps a baseball bat?

  • @mikeemmons1079
    @mikeemmons1079 Před rokem +1

    I am really comfy knowing all that stands between me and these things is... Chicago.

  • @user-xg1fi4ih8e
    @user-xg1fi4ih8e Před 10 měsíci +1

    i live in Ontario and we have carp in our lakes already, specifically in georgian bay which is connected to lake huron.

  • @DSB1234567890
    @DSB1234567890 Před rokem +489

    Loved listening to the engineer who works at the fish barrier, he really knows his stuff and explained it well.

  • @joew8438
    @joew8438 Před rokem +150

    "They can weigh more than 30 kilos, and they are easily startled."
    Story of my life.

  • @BeaChapman
    @BeaChapman Před rokem +1

    Electrifying water feels like some strange newly added video game mechanic

  • @johnlayland3746
    @johnlayland3746 Před rokem +5

    The barrier will only work for a short time. If you kill every fish in a pond, a few years later it will be full of fish again, assuming whatever killed the original fish is now gone. Where do the new fish come from? Do they walk in, no. Do they swim in, no. Do they fly in, amazingly, yes. Fish eggs get stuck on bird feathers, and can be transported to other nearby bodies of water. This is why the same species of fish end up in disconnected bodies of water. Birds will help the invasive carp bypass the barrier.

  • @erikzaal2709
    @erikzaal2709 Před rokem +340

    Hi Tom Scott, We have something similar but different in the Netherlands. There is a sluise or lock between a saltwater and freshwater that is supposed to stay separated. They originally pumped the salt water out of the bottom and pumped freshwater back in before opening the lock, but now they use bubble walls too keep the water separated. It looks really cool, and can be another interesting place video.

    • @natascha5864
      @natascha5864 Před rokem +3

      @erik zaal; Well, I guess it would keep water seperated, but not impenetrable, right?...

    • @0h0h0h0
      @0h0h0h0 Před rokem +6

      Unforutnately those aren't perfect (of course) either; the freshwaters are getting more and more saline which is a huge problem for many species. I wonder what they will do to prevent this from getting out of hand!

    • @genghisthegreat2034
      @genghisthegreat2034 Před rokem +6

      Fish retreat from bubble curtains

  • @njebei
    @njebei Před rokem +395

    This reminds me a little of the buffelgrass problem facing Arizona these days. It was bought from Africa to the area in the 1970s as a drought resistant grass for cattle and for erosion control. This grass seemed ideally suited to the area as it can go for 8 months in searing heat and rebound with a little water. Fire can't destroy it as buffelgrass roots rebound quickly in charred soil. No one considered how its introduction might effect other plants and animals.
    Because part of buffelgrass' annual process is to become dormant and dry out, the areas where it is introduced become tinderboxes. When fires occur, it kills the other plants in animals in the area, leaving the buffelgrass to grow even stronger the following year. Fast forward to today and buffelgrass is everywhere. Its introduction is now effecting Arizona's iconic saguaro cactus. The only way to get rid of buffelgrass is to pull it up by its roots and volunteers have been going into the desert and doing just that for decades. This has slowed the spread but unfortunately there's no way to eradicate it completely.

    • @youtubeaccount5153
      @youtubeaccount5153 Před rokem +21

      We have kudzu in the South. Originally brought in for erosion control. You can see it literally completely covering whole stretched of woodlands.

    • @michaelmoorrees3585
      @michaelmoorrees3585 Před rokem +9

      Lion fish in the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Sea. Pythons in Florida. Both Asian species, that got brought over as pets, and escaped, and exploded, in recent years.

    • @vituperation
      @vituperation Před rokem

      It's simple! Just introduce another species that eats the buffelgrass! Don't look into _that_ species' environment impact. If the next thing becomes a problem, we'll just introduce another to take care of it. Easy! No consequences whatsoever.

    • @dobletroubleify
      @dobletroubleify Před rokem

      Butterfly effect wild af

    • @mayburnham6853
      @mayburnham6853 Před rokem

      *affect

  • @jasons2562
    @jasons2562 Před rokem +1

    I remember lake ontario having a lot of big carp near the pickering power plant in the 80's, I would assume they are still there today

  • @binchlipusfukaroniiandchee464

    I like all the ducks in the background dipping in then immediately leaving then going back

  • @IrregularToaster
    @IrregularToaster Před rokem +1713

    I love the bit about having to shut down the barrier. "We're trying to protect the ecosystem, so we dumped a ton of toxins into this river."

    • @currently_In_stealth_behind_u
      @currently_In_stealth_behind_u Před rokem +257

      they know more than you

    • @raymiemiller1455
      @raymiemiller1455 Před rokem +495

      The scary part is that killing everything in the canal, while bad, has far less ecological impact then carp getting into the Great Lakes system would.

    • @joelsmith3473
      @joelsmith3473 Před rokem +124

      Also, "We really messed up the ecosystem and really, really want to fix it, but not actually enough to affect profits by using the easiest, most effective, and ecologically sound means."

    • @amshermansen
      @amshermansen Před rokem +48

      @@joelsmith3473 Which would be what exactly?

    • @bluefox5331
      @bluefox5331 Před rokem +101

      @@amshermansen Closing the canal, they mentioned that in the video

  • @modalmixture
    @modalmixture Před rokem +280

    Meanwhile in 2075: “The invasion of toxin-adapted electric carp now bears down on Montreal, shocking anything that tries to get in their way…”

    • @benoithudson7235
      @benoithudson7235 Před rokem +17

      Finally, something to feed the whales that sometimes get lost up here!

    • @somerandomperson2934
      @somerandomperson2934 Před rokem +34

      ​@@benoithudson7235 that's not a very nice thing to say about your mother

    • @thedancingflowercat6254
      @thedancingflowercat6254 Před rokem +15

      @@somerandomperson2934 You woke up today and chose violence 💀💀

    • @benvoliothefirst
      @benvoliothefirst Před rokem +12

      Do you WANT Pokémon?! Because that's how you get Pokémon!

    • @davegreenlaw5654
      @davegreenlaw5654 Před rokem

      And Montreal will probably *still* be pumping raw sewage into the St. Lawrence...which may be the only thing that'll stop them.

  • @tlangdon12
    @tlangdon12 Před rokem +2

    A barge conveyor that lifts the barges out of the water for few yards would seem to be one option. It would work in the same way that a River Rapids Car Lift works. It wouldn't slow down barges, but might not work for other sorts of watercraft.

    • @jameson1239
      @jameson1239 Před rokem

      A carp could probably survive that much time out of the water

  • @whiterabbit1632
    @whiterabbit1632 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Every day is truly a school day! Never stop learning folks!

  • @MaxwellVador
    @MaxwellVador Před rokem +646

    I worked for the illinois department of natural resources in 2009-2012 when the carp problem was at a fever pitch. Charters and recreational boating was at an all time low because the carp would jump into boats and injure passengers

    • @zapfanzapfan
      @zapfanzapfan Před rokem +16

      Fish jumping into you boat is a problem? Isn't that catching lunch without even trying?

    • @ThimbleFox350
      @ThimbleFox350 Před rokem +36

      @@zapfanzapfan the carp taste bad tho

    • @breadtoast1036
      @breadtoast1036 Před rokem +37

      @@zapfanzapfan carp is gross plus i dont think a concussion or whiplash is worth a fish dinner

    • @zapfanzapfan
      @zapfanzapfan Před rokem +2

      @@ThimbleFox350 Really? I haven't eaten any. Does it have any caviar?

    • @tihspidtherekciltilc5469
      @tihspidtherekciltilc5469 Před rokem +2

      @@zapfanzapfan Nah, just Grey Poupon and ham.

  • @EmiRabbit
    @EmiRabbit Před rokem +2174

    It's so sad the damage that invasive species can cause because they were introduced as a quick fix to a problem. I'm sure that most Aussies know about Cane toads, but they were introduced to deal with cane beetles. Unfortunately their toxins kill a lot of native animals and they now can be found all over eastern Australia. Humans can make such a huge impact with small decisions.

    • @raphaelrodriguez2774
      @raphaelrodriguez2774 Před rokem +13

      I remember the Simpsons episode, but never looked into what it was really about

    • @SubstanceD91
      @SubstanceD91 Před rokem

      There's tons of stories of Australia completely screwing up their wildlife. The U.S. has sent over 20k people to Antarctica and they've harmed nothing.

    • @Pudji.Toucan
      @Pudji.Toucan Před rokem +5

      @@raphaelrodriguez2774 I don't think they sell them in Walmart, I think dandelions are sold by packets of seed on the market stalls of Istanbul.
      I wouldn't bother trying that again until November because the rat traps won't be in force yet.
      Thank you though for your help, it really is appreciated still to this day, I'll never forget you.

    • @FJB2020
      @FJB2020 Před rokem +37

      Just another example of a long list of government failures...

    • @FlorinArjocu
      @FlorinArjocu Před rokem +30

      The Australians have experience also with rabbits.

  • @lucasm4886
    @lucasm4886 Před rokem

    immaculate performance

  • @andrewnorgrove6487
    @andrewnorgrove6487 Před 11 měsíci

    We eradicated Carp from two lakes in Tasmania's highlands !Some eggs were brought in with what we think was in some fishermen's waders ! It took three years from memory and No More Karp in Tasmania Lakes

  • @CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen
    @CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen Před rokem +205

    I work on a river boat and pass through there on occasion pushing barges. When we pass through, we have to run a steel wire from our boat to the barge that we're faced up to because there is a layer of rubber between the boat and the barges. This is to provide continuity of the electricity. When we pass through the arch that is behind Scott in several of the shots, you can see the electricity arcing between the boat and the arch.

    • @abnormal_asian5320
      @abnormal_asian5320 Před rokem +5

      What happens if you don’t provide continuity of the electricity?

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart Před rokem +4

      @@abnormal_asian5320 probably fish can get through

    • @PiperDougherty
      @PiperDougherty Před rokem +32

      @@abnormal_asian5320 A potential can build between the two structures. You, as a human, have a chance to be the electrical conductor in that scenario. Good luck!

    • @CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen
      @CMDR.Gonzo.von.Richthofen Před rokem

      @@PiperDougherty the WIRE is the conductor-it connects the steel of the boat to the steel of the barges. It is a braided cable over an inch in diameter. Also, we stay inside the vessel during passage through the electrified area.
      The purpose of bonding the vessel to the barges(to my understanding) is to prevent a pocket between the bow of my vessel and the stern of the barges that would allow the fish to pass through the zone unscathed.

  • @ElectroBOOM
    @ElectroBOOM Před rokem +24

    Now that's place I like to swim in...

    • @OnlinePhenome
      @OnlinePhenome Před rokem +1

      Who needs electric showers when you can have government approved electric rivers..?! 🏊🏻‍♂⚡

    • @lmsesh
      @lmsesh Před rokem

      It had to be you

  • @georgesmith8113
    @georgesmith8113 Před rokem

    Very good!
    👍👍👍👊😎

  • @wihamaki
    @wihamaki Před 9 měsíci +1

    We've had some invasive carp show up on the Canadian side of Lake Ontario.

  • @daveh7720
    @daveh7720 Před rokem +852

    The Great Lakes have already taken a beating from invasive species. In fact, the sport fishing industry on the Lakes developed in part as an effort to restore the ecosystem after previous invasions destroyed the commercial fisheries. The book "The Death and Life of the Great Lakes" by Dan Egan covers it very well.

    • @predatorrt5632
      @predatorrt5632 Před rokem +14

      and some people don’t know Carp are already in the Great Lakes. this definitely helps the influx, but they’re here already.

    • @st4r444
      @st4r444 Před rokem

      So fishing sport is helping the restore ecosystem?

    • @cloudlion7427
      @cloudlion7427 Před rokem

      And why not make it legal for everyone to fish theme and discard theme as they wish ?

    • @mase002
      @mase002 Před rokem +10

      @@predatorrt5632 Its a different kind of carp, but you are right.

    • @amyvoegerl6349
      @amyvoegerl6349 Před rokem +8

      Zebra mussels have invaded the Great Lakes and caused a ton of damage.