Did St Thomas Come To India?

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  • čas přidán 6. 09. 2019
  • Objective, Internationally Verified, account of St Thomas Christianity in India from Scholarly priest Dr. Joseph J Palackal CMI
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  • @johnthekkemuriyil21
    @johnthekkemuriyil21 Před 4 lety +1

    Excellent work👍👍

  • @skarmat
    @skarmat Před 2 lety +2

    It was clear to the Jews in ancient times that when the Mashiach (Hebrew for the Messiah or the Christ- the Anointed one) comes, as per the prophecies of the Tanakh, he would first proclaim his kingdom to the Jews and then to the Gentiles. After Christ's resurrection He gave the great commission to his Apostles (including Thomas) to go out into the world and proclaim the Good News (the Gospel) to all the nations. The Latin rite and the Syro Malabar rite are the only two individual or Sui Iuris Churches within the Catholic Church which have a continuous Church history from the first century until today established by an Apostle.
    1) The traditions (handed down) of St. Thomas Christians of Kerala lay great emphasis on the origins of their faith to Thomas, the Apostle of Christ.
    2) Hymns of St. Ephrem (4th century), a beloved saint from Syria describes the martyrdom of Apostle Thomas in India. The reason for the Apostle Thomas to arrive in India was because of a Jewish community that lived on the Malabar coast. Coins recovered from Kerala strongly support the idea of a flourishing Indian trade in spices with Arabia, China, Rome, and other East Asian countries in the first century. It is reasonable to assume that Thomas started his ministry with the proclamation of the Messianic kingdom to the Jews of Malabar region and then to the natives. Early Christian writings of the third and fourth century about the missionary work in south eastern coast of India lend credence to the traditions that India had a strong Christian presence since the first century.
    3) Eusebius of Caesaria (4th century), a church historian and Bishop, wrote that Pantaneus visited India in AD 180 and he says that he found a Gospel of Matthew written in Hebrew, left with the Christians there by St. Bartholomew. St. Jerome in his writings mentions a deputation sent from India to Alexandria. This deputation requested Demetrius (127-232 AD), the bishop of Alexandria (Egypt), to send Clement of Alexandria (150 AD- 215 AD) to India. As per the traditions of the St. Thomas Christians, Thomas established seven churches in south India. Today there are above 4 million St. Thomas Christians belonging to various denominations (Syro-Malabar Catholic, Syro Malankara Catholic, Syrian Orthodox, Jacobite, Mar Thoma Church etc) in South India.
    4) The liturgy of Syro-Malabar Catholic Church and the Syro-Malankara Catholic Church mention specifically the origin of their Church from Apostle Thomas.
    6) The St.Thomas cross in worship in Kerala is only found elsewhere in Syriac Church of Middle East.

  • @TheOwlHead
    @TheOwlHead Před 3 lety +1

    Very very interesting

  • @moniqart-artastherapy1929

    doubting Thomas .....is being doubted !

  • @josephjohn5864
    @josephjohn5864 Před 3 lety

    We can fool some people for sometime but not all time.

  • @hariprasad8389
    @hariprasad8389 Před 4 lety +2

    So there is no material proof. We can say, it's early Syrian Christians came to Kerala for trade. Settled here and mixed up ...

    • @nextdoorpharmacy
      @nextdoorpharmacy  Před 4 lety +2

      Hari Prasad ... There is no material proof anywhere as per global situations and power equations during those times. See the comments from Harvard professor on that!

    • @hariprasad8389
      @hariprasad8389 Před 4 lety

      @@nextdoorpharmacy ok sir
      I just gone through a research document. What is your opinion on this?
      www.academia.edu/38759376/RESEARCH_GIVES_NEW_FACTS_ABOUT_AOOSTLE_THOMAS

    • @nextdoorpharmacy
      @nextdoorpharmacy  Před 4 lety +1

      Hari Prasad
      Peer reviewed and professional documents remain sacrosanct. This is a good work for his academic purpose. More authenticity needed to take it as a valid argument.

    • @tkj2192
      @tkj2192 Před 2 lety +1

      man i see you in many videos trying to refute arrival of St Thomas in India. I don't know what hatred is driving you.

    • @TheAbinn
      @TheAbinn Před rokem

      @@tkj2192 reason is many catholic or csi are lower cast hindus convert... So they have ego and jelousy of their color or cast

  • @anandpendyala
    @anandpendyala Před 4 lety +6

    Church is source of Aryan Dravidian Theory as it solves their purpose

    • @sahsjihn5120
      @sahsjihn5120 Před 4 lety

      onuu poda thayoolu..
      from ancient saint Thomas christian

    • @gillkara
      @gillkara Před 8 měsíci

      But there is no oral tradition in India that correlates with Aryans coming into India and being distinct with the Dravidians

  • @TheAbinn
    @TheAbinn Před rokem

    CSI Christian is converted hindus Lower cast by British
    We here syrian christian 2000 years...

  • @sahsjihn5120
    @sahsjihn5120 Před 4 lety

    b

  • @TheAbinn
    @TheAbinn Před rokem

    Our ancestor is not bramin... Our ancestors is jew... Their were no brahmin 4 centuries

  • @TheOwlHead
    @TheOwlHead Před 3 lety

    The shroud of Turin shows us what Jesus looked like. Very caucasian. How do you know he didn’t have colored blue eyes?

    • @shampar10
      @shampar10 Před 3 lety

      What??

    • @InfoPool448
      @InfoPool448 Před 3 lety

      How do you know that Shroud of Turin is a relic from the first century?

    • @TheOwlHead
      @TheOwlHead Před 3 lety

      @@InfoPool448 because it had radiation from the resurrection burned into it that no scientist can explain and is open to scrutiny. It’s so obvious

  • @discomallu9769
    @discomallu9769 Před 3 lety

    So Jesus was a Caucasian looking Semite who preached Christianity and taught his disciples how to build churches to worship him , perform mass and also use the crucifix as a symbol.
    How else can Thomas convert people to Christianity in India and build churches that have a blonde Caucasian Jesus as the deity ?

    • @nextdoorpharmacy
      @nextdoorpharmacy  Před 3 lety +3

      Disco Mallu Jesus is a middle eastern Jew. Blonde and visual presentation happened when Christianity reached Rome!

    • @discomallu9769
      @discomallu9769 Před 3 lety

      @@nextdoorpharmacy ok, did Jesus preach Christianity ?
      Did Jesus build any church or place of worship for Christians ?

    • @nextdoorpharmacy
      @nextdoorpharmacy  Před 3 lety +2

      Jesus build a change in your mind and life. Those are the ones that build anything further.

    • @discomallu9769
      @discomallu9769 Před 3 lety

      @@nextdoorpharmacyThank you, so Jesus didn't preach Christianity nor did he build any church where he will be worshipped as a diety. We can then also assume that Jesus didn't teach his disciples to build churches. So I am wondering how st Thomas within 35 yrs of Jesus's crucification converted people in India to Christianity and how he built churches to worship Jesus as the deity.
      Jesus claimed to be a Messiah and some jews believed it while others didn't. Their is no precedent amongst Jews for worshipping messiahs. While that doesn't stop st Thomas from worshipping Jesus, I am still wondering what prompted St Thomas to deify Jesus in far away India.

    • @nextdoorpharmacy
      @nextdoorpharmacy  Před 3 lety +1

      Disco Mallu please come up with your true identity. You seems to be a English educated guy. What keeps you in dark and make a conversation. Come out in open so that we can have a meaningful conversation. Otherwise, it’s like me talking to Shakuni instead of Arjuna😊

  • @Cloudblue0
    @Cloudblue0 Před 3 lety +1

    Catholic church..... different the CHRISTIANITY.

    • @TheOwlHead
      @TheOwlHead Před 3 lety +2

      The only Christianity

    • @TheAbinn
      @TheAbinn Před rokem +1

      @@TheOwlHead only church who worship idols... Pegan.... Pegan convert catholic but carry pegan worship mix with Christianity

  • @jojojohn194
    @jojojohn194 Před 4 lety

    why do you talk about thomas..... when the scientific evidence for jesus is null.....

    • @bernardthome9003
      @bernardthome9003 Před 3 lety

      You are such a fool

    • @skarmat
      @skarmat Před 2 lety +1

      From thorough and scholarly work most, historians have no doubt that Jesus of Nazareth was a Jew from the first century who was crucified under the Romans. This is borne from the writings of those who knew him (eye witnesses: Matthew, John, Peter, Jude, and James) or from the writings of those who heard (Paul, Mark, Luke) it from the eyewitnesses. There is a high degree of consistency between the accounts of these writings. The writings of secular historians (Pliny the Younger, Seutonius, Mara Bar Serapion, Tacitus, Lucian of Samosata, Celsus, Thallus, and Josephus and Babylonian Talmud) in the first century or in the following centuries confirm that Jesus was indeed a Jew who lived in the first century and started a new movement within Judaism and his preaching led him to be crucified under the Romans. While some writings also obliquely refer to the claim of Christ’s resurrection as well. There are embarrassing facts about the Apostles of Christ (Peter denying Jesus around Jesus' trial; the Apostles deserting Jesus when he was arrested; Apostles hiding for three days from the day of Jesus’ crucifixion, Mary Magdalene first finding the empty tomb of Jesus before them; Thomas doubting Jesus; Jesus telling the disciples after the Last supper that they would abandon him) in the New Testament that were written either by themselves or narrated by the Apostles to others who wrote about Jesus' works. If the biography of Jesus were a mere invention the Apostles would not have put embarrassing details about themselves in the biography and nor would they have invented something as humiliating as the crucifixion. Yet, the Apostles were prepared to spread the Gospel to the world, be persecuted for it and even die for it. The Apostles did not get any benefits from preaching the Gospel-monetary or Power or any other. The resurrected Christ was witnessed by 500 followers who Apostle Paul claims were still living during his time and could corroborate the claims of a resurrected Christ. Paul himself was a Jew like the early followers of Christ and a persecutor of the followers of Christ. But because of a vision of Christ, Paul became a true believer of Christ and an exemplar of Christian faith. The very same Apostles who timidly hid themselves after the trial of Christ became the torchbearers of his message because of a singular event that changed their lives and gave them an unusual courage to preach Christ’s message- the empty tomb of Christ, the appearance of Christ in flesh to them after his death, and his ascension into heaven. Even at the pain of death the Apostles travelled to distant lands to preach the arrival of the Messianic kingdom of Jesus of Nazareth to Jews and Gentiles. The Church is the living testimony of Jesus' kingdom and stands aloft in its truth. The Church today exists because of Christ’s assertion to Peter:
      Matthew 16: 15: He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” 16 Simon Peter said in reply, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.” 17Jesus said to him in reply, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. 18 And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.”

    • @Sanatani_naavikudu
      @Sanatani_naavikudu Před 16 dny +1

      This is the problem, when asked about proof you are again taking bible as proof 😂😂😂😂.... And bcoz jesus is fake... You had to addup so many stories to cover up