It's too bad Toby Fox is so ashamed of this. It was one of the coolest romhacks in existence when it came out, and it's even more impressive knowing he made this when he was a teenager. Some aspects of it aged poorly but the whole idea of it was pretty cool.
I mean its pretty neat music and gameplay wise, the reason Toby is ashamed of it is because the writing and dialogue is really edgy and bad. Its bad enough to be funny though at least.
VERY close to young adulthood, but yeah. The game was good, but the difficulty was cranked up, the dialogue was very edgy, and I can see why Toby wanted to forget the game and never talk about it again
2:57:35
It's probably because of the... er... "outdated" vocabulary.
Fun fact: Some of the corrupted tiles and sprites were done by accident because modding was much harder back then. The only reason some things like the Remember Me enemy sprite have corruption is because Toby had to be very careful when modifying the game and thus had to leave some of the sprites and tiles messed up.
Yes, I did steal this fact from the Toby Fox wiki. You are welcome.
i mean this in the sweetest way possible, but this is purple prose teenage angst edginess given form through a playable fanfic. i'm genuinely delighted
"tl;dr eat shit f****ts" i'm LOSING IT. the writing skills of a twelve-year-old. parts of this were so genuinely heartwrenching (the remember me monsters were. Something) but this is something completely different. i hope that when my brain gets invaded by video game protagonists that i turn into a pre-teen on voice chat
"i am going to burn you to such a crisp your ashes will scream for water" this toes that perfect line between narmy and genuinely threatening that makes me love storytelling so much
@@nemnyoom (2nd reply)
That's the whole point lol
(3rd reply)
Maybe because it's actually telegraphing his moves in the battle
i'm watching this and thinking "hey why is he ashamed of this its fine" then i see the final boss text boxes
I'm stealing the "your ashes will scream for water" line. It's delightfully unhinged
The writing was truly amazing, I cried a little bit when Dr. Andonuts said 'i'll shove your asses so far down your throats that when you crap you sing beethoven'
Man the difficulty is BRUTAL but everything else is amazing. Sure it lost some shock value nowadays but the horror element is still there. Toby is really talented, can't believe he was a teen back then!
Imagine people who just saw undertale or deltarune, wanted to see what else toby fox made, saw this hack and decided to play it and the difficulty spike immediately at the start of the game just went, "what you wanna play the game?????"
@@psycholaw4394 before you get hit with pk bitchkill omega and have to redo the entire fight
Actually the only romhack I still play. Fun Fact: The insanely OP enemies that keep you inside Twoson are actually weak to paralysis. If you paralyze them on the first turn, they become free EXP. The doom shroom and the shadow shrub along the entrance to Peaceful Rest Valley are both worth about 10,000 exp each. lmao
Thanks for the tip! This hack is kind of interesting, but I see most people just play it because Toby made it not because of EarthBound itself.
Oh yeah the insanely op enemies are there to make sure you don't wander off too far, but they're kinda tough to paralyse especially since if you fail you're definitly going to die, only reason I never try it is because I want the level progression to be natural (especially in this video)
Yeah that's true. But I've played through this a number of times too, and unlike EarthBound, this game isn't balanced very well, to the point where you pretty much have to grind at one point or another. Unlike the former where you can cruise through without stopping to do so. I just like to do it because it saves time in the long run.
That's very true, I've played this hack (and earthbound itself) a lot of times and I can safely say that the hack is extremly unfair with enemies and relies a LOT on grinding (which I think was to try and pad out the hacks length since if you never died it would only be around like 2 hours long) which is one of the few reasons I think it's not amazing, I wouldn't blame anyone for killing the op enemies at the start for a free 10 levels because of how tediously grindy the early game is, I just personally prefer not doing it because I want to experience how the hack is meant to be played without killing those enemies.
Here comes the doomshroom, here is it's opening attack WHOOOOOOP
Death.
How the hell can i paralyze anything?
This is such a weird but interesting game. Really wonder what went through Toby Fox's mind to make this lol
"Varik!
It's time to come home to your mother
I've missed you so much. I even cooked a fresh batch of
you
you
WHO ARE YOU
ARE YOU MY SON?"
My favorite part of the game
I love the two possible implications:
1. Varik is Ness.
2. Varik's life has gone a 360° so many times that not even his mother recognizes him.
My favorite part of the game is the Courage Area 3 boss. I just love the design. 1:35:23
Edginess aside this is kinda creepy.
But I'm here to talk about the amalgamates. Literally a bunch of different enemy sprites fused together. Really cool to see how the idea was brought back in Undertale, basically the same.
Everyone talks about Megalovania, and for good reason, but there's more here that carried over into his later works.
Seeing what Toby Fox made before Undertale fills me with determination.
you should definitely check out homestuck then, he worked on that too
Dr. Andonuts hits different after playing this...
Toby fox was an incredibly talented teenager to make this. Barring the edge lord shit he understood how to write witty dialogue reminiscent of the mother games.
If you can exploit something, do it, this rom is unforgiving, i abused the hell out of enemy spawning by running away and coming back to get less enemies so i don't get ganked and die.
Thanks for playing this so I didn't have to. I made it to the cave near the end of the game with the kraken and died every time, didn't know it was intended to be a metal gear solid demake there.
PSI Bitchkill
*So that's the true form of gigyas's attack*
while a the dialogue hasn't aged that well it's at least evocative enough to be effective
and I do love that it starts with lazy recolor enemies in the first zone, then progressively more modified sprites to the point where you almost can't tell that they're edits, until it gets to the COMPLETELY new enemies
also there's something really funny about getting blasted by lightning 2 steps away from a present with the Franklin Badge in it
For some reason the Remember Me? genuinely hurts to think about.
Kinda sad the hack trips over right at the end with the needless profanity and slurs. Everything up to that point was quite effective.
it's honestly crazy how toby got away with all the snuff styled scenes in this hack
Toby’s use of the uboa sprite is hilarious to me. I know it’s supposed to be creepy, uboa is creepy, but it was so jarring for me because I love yume Nikki and earthbound.
Ending: varik eats hawaiian pizza with toby
49:36 Yeah, I remember you! Flames Heatsman, right? Or was it Heats Flamesman?
I'm very impressed that Toby did a Earthbound Halloween hack. Maybe it's edgy but still it's great on its way. I remember when I played some Nes games romhacks such as Darkwing Duck 2 (Super Contra) or Chip n' Dale 3 (Heavy Barrel). Good memories
From Edgy ROM Hacker, to Undertale and Deltarune, to Pokemon OST composer. Wow...
@@bloomingosmanthus9110 He has done tracks for Pokemon games ever since Gen 8.
**What if Deltarune was like this Hack?**
It already is. The way Kris enters and exits the Dark World is really similar to how Varik enters and exits Dr. Andonuts' Magician. Plus Kris looks really similar to Varik.
Hair covering the eyes of the knife wielding protagonist who has a sense of right and wrong and yet still does something morally gray
The character has a voice inside their head telling them what to do, yet at some points the character refuses to abide
Someone goes crazy
The main character is thought of as a hero by others for their deeds
There are scary parts
Wait you asked _what if_ Deltarune was like the Halloween Hack? I believe they're pretty close.
2:56:08 The first use of Megalovania.
PSI Bitchkill is comedy gold honestly
when I saw blood sewers I was like "yeah no wonder mr. fox didn't want to talk about this hack"
and then when I saw Winters I thought
"Yeah, this is edgyland."
I can tell that you had a "Bad Time!"
So are Paula, Jeff and Poo just embodiments of Dr Andonut's mind?
Your Final Boss preparations frighten and confuse me, sir.
People says varik is sans' inspiration, but i say he looks more like dark world Kris
the authorial imprint is incredible
as I played it I said to myself that it reminds me of undertale
and then I found out he did it
A video I made about how to get the Star Shield since I missed it in this run: czcams.com/video/eJqNM8ZSfBg/video.html
I feel like this rom hack takes place in a world where Giygas won, his influence causing the absolute terror showcased. It would explain why Dr. Andonuts ends up feeling pure hatred at the end, and also would explain the Giygas sprite.
This game is an AU where ness did not return to onett after defeating giygas.
If Paula, Jeff and Poo are stuck in limbo or whatever, where’s Ness? He’s not anywhere in this hack. I know it’s because of limitations with the tools and stuff but I seriously want to know where he went in this timeline.
Why does Varik looks like he's sliding when Star Rank presses Diagonal Directions?
Let's just appreciate the fact that Toby didn't keep This version of Megalavania for undertale. This version is more spooky and not as epic as undertale version
He wouldn't have done it... And it wasn't a choice. He was supposed to remake the theme to fit with Undertale's soundtrack...
This version has a more terrifying vibe. One of an insane man. One who slaughtered people.
The Undertale one is more upbeat because you're up against arguably the hardest boss fight in the whole game.
i feel like this takes place in an alternate universe where ness and his friends are stuck in the cave of the past after defeating giygas
you’re somewhat correct: this actually takes place in an alternate universe where ness and co never return to the present after defeating giygas, instead they go to a new timeline created when giygas was just recently defeated
dr andonuts thinks that he killed them because of that and the guilt drives him mad
@@TheDunsparceGames oh really? Damn I didn't know about the part that ness and his friends went to a new timeline
@@TheDunsparceGamesDr andonuts is going insane while ness and his pals chilling somewhere lmao
@@TheDunsparceGames well, when you think about it, they may as well be dead. "they're in another timeline" doesn't matter when they're not in THIS timeline.
Even back to one of Toby's earliest projects, he was still pulling the whole (insert year)X
Edit: Ok, ok, jeez, I get it. I messed up.
@@justaspectator9762 Why do I see you in Undertale, Earthbound and Geometry Dash videos
@@Queerasslizard undertale? I don't tend to watch undertale related videos frequently. Funny you saw me there. And the answer is obvious. I enjoy many things lmao
This game is brutal *doesn't use healing items early*
HOLD ON ONE DAMN SECOND... DOES JEFF HAVE PP?
oh jeez one of my favorite soundtracks of earthbound is megalovania but i have never played earthbound but i'll try it out on my own for the rom hack
My favorite line was EAT S*** F*****S!!!
Best romhack ever, especially the balancing
Very Strong Enemies in Twoson:
1. Super Doom Mushroom (Blue Version of Ramblin' Evil Mushroom)
2. Blue Antoid
3. Shadow Shrub (Black Version of Mobile Sprout)
i like how nobody is talking about why the main character is missing in this game(i know why)
when the earthbound screen fades away, its either a glitched screen or a black screen
what button do u press when ur in dr andonauts lab to not kill the thing on computer
Why is twoson sewers just magnet hill?
45:00 i got to here when i was playing the rom and i thought it ended there i was like is that it i heard this rom hack was amazing. I didnt know it had mor to it than that
Varik looks like Kris
How did PSI thunder hit so much you are so lucky!
I never got the same luck with psi thunder in future playthroughs of this hack since it misses all the time, it's good I got it to hit so much in the run I recorded
@@Crimson_Carnival lol yeah it sucks unless there is more then like, three enemies. Good job on beating the ROM btw.
Oh thank you! I've beaten the hack plenty of times, I think it's fun to play through every once in a while despite how frustrating it can be.
@@Crimson_Carnival dang you've beaten in multiple times this hack looks hard! Yoube died so many times within the bloody sewers and you're telling me you've done it multiple times?
@@sunshinefeon the hack is pretty hard but its pretty short too and is only kind of long because of how many times you're going to die which is why I usually always beat it in one sitting. It does become easier when you start to learn how the game works and almost every boss has something they're weak to. Altho a lot of areas rely heavily on luck and extremely unfair enemy placements. The only part of the hack that I think is always hard is the blood sewers because enemies love to trap you in a stun loop forever.
i like how this is where megalovania originated and not undertale
How do you get into magicant?
Edit: it’s alright I know how to now
Was Remember Me supposed to have a splotch of garbage pixels by its foot?
i love how they put sans music in the ending
If you think about it, Sans’ theme is actually Dr. Andonuts/Vriska/Aradia’s theme
I just skipped to the end and now I'm wondering why the Mother 1 sprites are on screen lol
I had a different ending, what can i do?
god
courage area 1 is just depression area 1
This ROM hack is pretty creepy and extremely edgy at the same time, though what I have to say is that I loved fighting Dr. Andonuts, because he was both unfair and fair at the same time, because he had instakill attacks yet he warned you one turn before them about it
How did you get it?
3:01:49 I didn't see this! (That I Diamondized Dr. andonuts!)
okay so i downloaded the hack and it runs fine but i cant get past the intro cutscene PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT OTO DO (i cant even get to the select save screen its just the intro cutscene idk what to do)
you press A or B or start any of those should work if that doesent work then its a problem with your emulator probably
2:55:55 I guess some people come only for this, so here it is!
This is a bit too unbalanced in difficulty. I had like a total million savestates while playing this.
(Dad is that really you) huh you don't recognize me why I'm your jeff I know it's been a while since you've seen and, no dad I don't really want a donut dad I must go south a girl named girl keeps appearing in my dreams telling me its my destiny and even though I might still wet the bed can you help me ...! I knew I could count on you (see you in another 10 years what is that supposed to mean am I just supposed to say goodbye like this in that case) goodbye. Then comes
Dearkhart
How do you download this hack?
He just saying word “Don’t Care”
I came trought the Courage Area 3 by just spamming Paralyse/Timestop and psi magnet
Varik is the biological Kris dad
Change my mind
Ufff man the first game will make toby fox the creator of undertale and deltarune
Very good v
The game's pretty edgey, also the pacifist thing is given in a very ham-fisted way.
@@geradev9827 The game has a not so presented pacifism mechanic.
It's activatated when running anyway, and presently as morally 100% good, but only to certain monsters, like the memory monsters that appear as Mother 2 objects and enemy sprites in the overworld.
Ham-fisted, hasn't even spent a class to a morality philosophy lecture about or looked up someone's action, their reason (or rea) and it's effects changing in context.
It's not purely good to be just a pacifist in ever situation, and it's technically Anti-Capitalist, which is in it of itself Capitalist, and doesn't help.
I don't disagree with Undertale's take on killing for the heck of it on the Bad Kid route, but I find it strange, since it's (archetypically) enemies attacking the player to kill them, and the game assumes defeating enemies is to kill, not knock out as well.
But that's Undertale's problems, this one, isn't very, well thought out? Undertale's brilliance is the mechanics - or your actions - affecting the morality system and narrative.
It's just that the morality system is barebones, to the point where said bones can break.
Halloween Hack is that, but the game doesn't tell the player about the morality system. Never has a subtle mechanical tutorial.
The enemies are hard, AND edgey!
Toby himself has said he cringes at the game.
Can't blame him.
A lot of the writing around Andonuts, it's pretty good at bits.
Though the game doesn't go too far into Andonuts and his sexuality on a non-subtle level, it's well executed from a teenager in the 2000's era without a mainstream presence of the LGBT+. Hell, I like how it reflects on men realising they're gay when they're married with a wife, combining it with the loneliness and effect of being an underground group of being LGBT+ when it was barely understood and actively and passively ignored by the majority of society that's in power, forcing LGBT+ people and others to be hushed into the obscurity of the subculture, affecting how said people talk about these issues in the modern day. A good example of the latter is the writer Jacqueline Wilson (source: czcams.com/video/mmZfmOzBBJA/video.html).
It's just hidden amongst the accessibility and clarity issues.
Which makes it sad for me, since I quote enjoyed it (until the final boss dialogue, which would fit better in a comedy).
@@harrietr.5073 pretty cool take. but on the undertale part of your reply, i'd like to say you are only seen as EVIL by the game if you go out of your way to kill every monster. this doesent mean killing every monster you encounter, it means genocide route. only on the genocide route does the game actually view you as evil since then you're literally going out of your way to kill everyone you possibly can rather than actually defending yourself. in neutral route you are literally just defending yourself because you arent trying to genocide, you're just trying to survive. and the reason why i dont think the game actually views you as evil on the neutral route is because sans' dialogue in the judgement hall can be summed up as "this is that blah blah blah you did what oyu thought was right blah thats what matters blah blah blah were rooting for u" or something like that.
but yeah thats really all i have to add to this.
edit: just to clear any confusion this was specifically a reply to you saying ""since it's (archetypically) enemies attacking the player to kill them" which, whilst it is true, the game doesent punish you for killing them unless you're doing genocide route, because then it isnt self defense.
@@electricpants8194 I mean, video games don't really tell the player if they killed or knocked out an enemy, Undertale's way of telling the player is subtle.
Subtle enough for players to miss.
But still you can still accidentally go on a Genocide route if you defend yourself from enemies, there's an, amount of enemies per area, and simply defending yourself can become the game calling you a mass murdere veering towards genocide.
I think there should be a difference between defeating an enemy and killing an enemy to avoid accidentally going Genocide, like lowering to an enemy while say "___'s knocked out!" while killing is something else, like instant-kills maybe?
Like, it's an Ailment enemies gain, enemies that are +K.O. from you defending yourself, while you making your enemies +Dead, random villagers +Dead and random menacing objects +Dead makes your route Genocide, or Bad Kid, or Murderer, or Negative.
@@electricpants8194 That quote is from talking about game archetypes, the game punishes you for killing whether intentional or not, E.G. Torial.
The punishment with Torial is emotional, but it is still punishment.
The abusive practice of parenting.
Is that Ness saying The Remember Me? 51:44
the enemy is called "Remember Me". since there's only one enemy in those battles, it puts "the" in front. Also Ness isn't really here besides being mentioned a few times, and I'm pretty sure Varik/Kris ancestor knows nothing about Ness.
@@ImSorryYaroslav It’s always about that Giygas working with Dr. Andonuts.
Once you got the the Sea of Eden, it truly was painful to watch. Either backtrack to recover your team or start utilizing all of the PSI caramels and other items you had in inventory. To add, trying to despawn the enemies in Eden is hilarious due to their spawn rate being 100%. Oof, just oof dude.
2:57:35 LMFAOOO
didn't even equip the Caledfwlch
ive been trying my hardest to play this but i keep finding the patched version and its just not working on my computer???? idk if anyone here can help lol
sans is ness is dr andonuts
hi
2:55:54
you're welcome
1:18:15 I'll totally dance to this in a party, unironically
This song is called 'Battle Against a Machine' originally from earthbound
"Where is it"
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:51 Opening
2:15 Twoson
12:10 Twoson Sewers
18:09 Twoson Sewers (No Deaths Until Checkpoint)
23:23 Blood Sewers
29:18 Blood Sewers (No Deaths)
33:55 Winters
40:12 Winters (No Deaths)
46:00 Magicant 1
49:15 Courage Area 1 (Dead Onett)
1:03:11 Magicant 2
1:06:08 Courage Area 2
1:14:33 Magicant 3
1:16:46 Courage Area 3 (Death Museum/Death Factory)
1:23:25 Courage Area 3 (No Deaths)
1:41:25 Magicant 4
1:49:47 Blue Maze
1:56:55 Distorted Devil's Machine Area
2:09:15 The Cave of The Past
2:23:50 Sea of Eden
2:40:40 Sea of Eden (No Deaths)
2:42:43 Corrupted Twoson Area (Final Boss Preparations)
2:52:24 Andonut's Lair
2:54:23 The ID
2:55:25 Final Boss Dr. Andonuts
3:02:04 Ending
@POP cat channel thanks.
Thanks, But Like I Always Reply To Timestamps:
Who asked?
@@fasty93 Who needs permission to put them?
@@yellowpower3755 drip my tang
Oh yeah earthbound halloween hack!!!