High Style in the Gilded Age: Consuelo Vanderbilt
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2020
- This lecture was done live via Zoom on Thursday, August 27, 2020 at 11am.
The fifth lecture on women of the Gilded Age in Southampton will focus on Consuelo Vanderbilt, who was born into great wealth and privilege but was a pawn in the hands of her obsessively socially ambitious mother. Forced into a loveless first marriage, she found happiness only much later with her second husband and finished her days in her lovely Southampton home, Gardenside.
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The picture of marble house is actually the breakers mansion
Picture of woman in wedding dress is not Consuelo. I've never found an actual photo, but what was broadly shared was a drawing of it. It had huge, puffy long sleeves. Several years ago Blenheim Palace did a reproduction of it and had it on display. You can see very clearly in those photos what the dress looked like.
I graduated from Dowling College which the Idle Hour Mansion anchored. Sadly the school shut down in 2017 and the entire property is currently for sale.
The Mansion was where the administrative offices were and the ballroom was used for school parties and rented out for weddings etc.
That image was not Marble House it was The Breakers.
Alva Vanderbilt was “battle axe of a mother”.
Very informative ignore the hate
It just goes to show you that love is more important than a title
RE Consuelo's sons. The elder, as the lecturer said, became the next Duke of Marlborough and his heirs still hold the dukedom and Blenhein Palace. Consuelo's younger son, Ivor's birth was the subject of some scandal. Consuelo and Winthrop Rutherford reconnected and with her husband's reluctant permission, she spent time with Rutherford in Paris. Ivor arrived in due course and his parentage has been much debated, especially since he bears little resemblance to either Sunny Vanderbilt or Ivor's elder brother. Such is life in an unhappy arranged marriage. Sunny's reputation has been polished in recent years to present a more balanced view of the relationship than can be found in Consuelo's memoir. One gets the feeling that these two were like Charles and Diana, that they cared for each other but had little in common, had 2 sons, each spouse took lovers, and it ended badly.
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I heard Consuelo's great grandson speak at Blenheim, while publicizing his book about Consuelo's husband, the 9th Duke of Marlborough. He claims Ivor was not the Duke's son because he didn't look like his brother or his father.. He claimed that Sunny had communicated in a letter, that I believe was found in the Blenheim archives, that his youngest son, Ivor, was not his son, having been told by someone who knew. I suspect the person who told him was his second wife, Gladys, who was a friend of Consuelo's until Gladys starting flirting with the Duke. Gladys was known to be a liar and jealous of Consuelo, so I have a hard time believing it. Just because a child doesn't resemble a father or brother, doesn't mean he was fathered by another man. In the pictures I've seen of Ivor as a child, he looks like Consuelo. I can't understand why this author would slander his great grandmother, other than to sell more books. Ivor has 2 grandsons that are alive, so a DNA test should have been done to prove/disprove the theory.
She is the societal icon of a particular segment of an era.
No wonder Hugh Bonneville was chosen for Downton Abbey. At 14:26, his resemblance to Consuelo's father is uncanny!
I actually did a double take!
What a fascinating tension between mother, Alva, and daughter, Consuelo. The architect is Richard Morris Hunt, not William Morris Hunt. Thank you for this detailed treatment of the fascinating Vanderbilts.
Enjoyed the video, thank you for your time and work!
Fascinating story
About wealth ,Family,Love &the Lack of it.consuelo was a survivor !she apparently held her head high and moved on..
Very well done! Very interesting and fascinating! Thank you very much…
I'm a Berwind great great grandaughter of 2 Presidents the Harrison's. My grandad had a home near their house Vanderbilt s ,called the Elms.
And it's a magnificent home, even today. And open to the public.
Love visiting The Elms. I was a guide at the Preservation Society of Newport County in the early 2000’s and would walk through the house just before visitors and enjoy the beautiful fragrance of the large flower arrangements. The newly renovated gardens are beautiful as well!
Thank you .,very interesting story..love the Gilded Age..
Very nice historical pictures and background! Thanks!
Thank you for your encouraging words.
Gladys Deacon’s father killed her mother’s lover, not her mother.
Important detail
Oh that makes a difference.....(still killed somebody).
Alva looks like a woman who isn’t to be trifled with. A woman who is going to get her own way no matter what.
Thank you so much for this!
Enjoyed it. However, Mary, the photo you have captioned as Marble House is actually The Breakers...home of Alva's rival, Alice.
Enjoyed your video. Very interesting and informative! Thank you!
Love the story
Thank-you very much.
Thank you, It was very nice.
Wonderful lecture, Thank you!
Great information,
but the photo of Marble House is her Uncle Cornelius' Breakers! Also the supposed wedding portrait isn't Consuelo, but an English woman photographed for a presentation at court.
This is great. Keep it up!
Thank you!!!
Enjoyed this!
Fun fact: $2.5M USD in 1985 (her dowry) is the equivalent of over $81M USD today.
You mean 1885?
She's already died in 1985
@@azabujuban-hito8085 you don't say.
I loved this video. Well done.
Thanks again for a wonderful education of the guilted age
The architect responsible for both Marble House and the Petit Chateau was Richard, not William, Morris Hunt.
Win Rutherford was eventually married to Lucy Mercer of the FDR scandal. The younger son of CV died some time in the 50s of a medical problem--a brain tumor or cancer, I think.
Redemption in the end👏🏻
She had such a long neck.
There are a lot of comments about Consuelo's long neck. I think she did have a nice long neck, but I think some of those early images were manipulated. Photographers back in those days could make waists smaller, add shadows, smooth out complexion flaws and manipulate features to some extent, just like we can do with Photoshop and filters today. Seems a long, swanlike neck was in vogue back then. There is a yt video about that practice. You can see in the last photo with CZ Guest, Consuelo's neck looks much more "normal".
She wore a metal brace that straightened and elongated her neck
The painter John Singer Sargent was known to stretch out necks to make the sitter look more elegant but in this case he simply painted what he saw!
loved it
That would be about a 62 million dollars today! In a dowery. Holy crap! My heart breaks for her though. To have no Freedom or choice. When I was little I always wished I was a princess. But as I grew to understand what princesses were actually put through I was in shock. I stopped wishing in the turkey wish bone to be a princess. Nope, no thank you.
Loved the narration.
The brother of Etienne Balsan who was friends with Coco Chanel.
How interesting! Thanks for the comment.
Tres tres chic 👌
She had the longest neck!!! Very pretty!!!
That’s not OHP in the picture you posted.
You are correct...somewhat. It's NOT Oliver Hazard Perry (who died in 1819); it's Oliver Hazard Perry Belmont, who married Alva Vanderbilt after she divorced Willie K. Vanderbilt.
Marble House a prison? Well, I'd like to live in a prison like that. Especially with unlimited funds at my disposal.
I didn't realize the Vanderbuilts had a house in Oakdale
yes they vander-built it.
@@w.urlitzer1869 And now it's gone.
The biggest vaderbiltedt estate is in Asheville B.C. andis called biltmore
I believe you mean NC.
Suenette Edwards indeed.
She had an extremely long neck. It's almost strange looking.
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Is Anderson cooper related to Alba Vanderbilt?
Yes, but only by marriage. Alva Smith's first husband was William K. Vanderbilt. His brother, Cornelius Vanderbilt II had a son Reginald Vanderbilt. Reggie & his second
wife Gloria Morgan had a daughter, Gloria Vanderbilt. Gloria & her third husband
Wyatt Cooper had a son, Anderson Cooper.
Anderson has a son named WYATT MORGAN Cooper.
Dear mom please call Ian
Have you done anything on my family
Wedding dress is very beautiful.
It is not a pix of Consuelo in her wedding dress. Her dress had long sleeves.
I have never understood what compelled Consuela to marry the Duke of Marlboro.
Her mother.
Just for the tittle darling .... tres tres chic 👌
Her overpowering mother! But it's the Duke of Marlborough, not Marlboro like the cigarettes.
Duty and guilt. Alva faked a heart attack and Consuelo was convinced Alva would die unless she agree to marry the Duke. Alva was a horror
It was her mother's decission not her's.
And to think, this nonsense still goes on amongst todays High Society! Geeezzz...people grow up and get Real!!
Consuelo looks. like she had her neck stretched
Yes I noticed her neck was long.
@@Checheelingling Her neck was long, like a swan. She was very beautiful.