Making beveled right angle gears

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  • Making gears that run smooth at a right angle by beveling the teeth.
    More on making these: woodgears.ca/ge...
    Using my gear program (which I wrote, and which I sell)
    woodgears.ca/gear

Komentáře • 162

  • @maartenhappel9014
    @maartenhappel9014 Před 9 lety +29

    Matthias, I noticed that both gears have an even number of teeth. If you think of the Dutch windmills, they work with gears too. But one of them will always have an odd number of teeth. This results in an ever jumping position, so that no tooth will be worn faster than the other. Specialy working with wood, the wear on a single one can result in unexpected and unwanted effects.

    • @superdau
      @superdau Před 9 lety +1

      Just an odd number doesn't help much. If both have multiples of 3 for example you will still end up with some teeth never ever meeting. You need a prime number of teeth to "mix" the all.

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety +13

      superdau Actually, the criteria is "relatively prime". 9:10 would meet the criteria, even though neither is an actual prime. But for a gear toy, it doesn't matter much.

    • @maartenhappel9014
      @maartenhappel9014 Před 9 lety +1

      Matthias Wandel Prime's will do the best if used for a long, long, looooong time.... But 6:19 would work fine too. Just as 9:10.

    • @arquit3d
      @arquit3d Před 9 lety +1

      So the rule is: the second gear must be multiple of the first one, and then add 1. In this way 9:10 and 6:19 meet the rule.

    • @superdau
      @superdau Před 9 lety +2

      Maarten Happel
      I should have specified more accurately and Matthias spelled it out already: the important thing is that the two gears don't have any common prime factors ("relatively prime"). There's no difference if the number of teeth on one gear itself is prime or not.

  • @izzyswan
    @izzyswan Před 9 lety +25

    That is a great new feature. Looking forward to using it.

  • @ollythebest94
    @ollythebest94 Před 9 lety +7

    Your creations are like from a childhood fantasy

  • @schroederb2007
    @schroederb2007 Před 9 lety +3

    I love watching you chisel, you're so quick and efficient! Haha I honestly have no plans to ever make wood gears but watching you work (or mow lawn) is inspiring!

  • @YesThatJoeyBurton
    @YesThatJoeyBurton Před 9 lety +1

    I love watching your iterative improvements. Thanks too for always explaining the What and Why behind each modification. Great channel, Matthias.

  • @IAmKyleBrown
    @IAmKyleBrown Před 9 lety

    I don't know how you do it, but I'm happy you do. It is so fun to keep learning from your pursuits.

  • @terry2346
    @terry2346 Před 9 lety +1

    Like others have said I always look forward to and enjoy your posts, even if I am never going to make what you show. Just the learning is fun!
    Thanks

  • @johnnyq90
    @johnnyq90 Před 9 lety +10

    Nice stuff, but how can you ensure that the hole for the shaft is drilled exactly in the center? I mean even on the drill press i can't be sure enough that the holes are are exactly in the center in both sides...

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety +6

      I punch a divot on the X in the middle with an awl, then let the point of the drill follow that.

    • @johnnyq90
      @johnnyq90 Před 9 lety

      Matthias Wandel Ok thanks;) This is pretty much what i do, but unfortunately there is always a misalignment, making the wheel wobble a little..

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety +8

      *****
      Sometimes I have to re-punch the divot if I didn't get it exactly in the middle. But a tiny amount of wobble is normal for me too.

    • @aserta
      @aserta Před 9 lety +7

      ***** There's a method that i use. It's a bit tricky but it hasn't failed me.
      You drill your hole in the wood. Whatever size you need, you do that first.
      Then, you get your template and the shaft, ball bearing or screw and using that, after you've cut a neat hole in the template, you then glue the template to the wood.
      If you're careful about it, you get very little issues with it.

    • @superdau
      @superdau Před 9 lety +1

      Matthias Wandel
      I think Johnny is talking about a hole not being exactly vertical, even when using a drill press. I have the same problem when I use a drill stand (don't have a drill press), but in a drill press it could be that the table is skewed.

  • @TheShavingWoodWorkshop
    @TheShavingWoodWorkshop Před 9 lety +2

    Great upgrade to your program

  • @allanperret8859
    @allanperret8859 Před 9 lety

    Genius ! The man continues to amaze me..

  • @dynosor1
    @dynosor1 Před 9 lety

    Brilliant to watch such a high level of logical and dexterous skill!

  • @serhioromano
    @serhioromano Před 9 lety

    Matthias, my idea is that if you want long life gears out of plywood, you can use wood stabilization technique. It can be little expensive, but if you want heavy duty gear, that will work fine. Especial on cheap plywood.

  • @MirrorOnTheWall23
    @MirrorOnTheWall23 Před 9 lety

    Excellent, I was having trouble with the gears on the box joint jig. I'll give this a try and see if it makes a difference.

  • @chadcraig74
    @chadcraig74 Před 9 lety

    I have been looking into building a jig to make bevel gears. I may now forget about that and use your gear generator.
    Thanks
    chad

  • @MFunkibut
    @MFunkibut Před 9 lety

    Maybe for next week's project you could build a more permanent jig for the bandsaw table that would allow 'negative angles'. I bet any number of your viewers have the same difficulty - either with bandsaws they built or with commercial bandsaws. They can tilt right but can't tilt left. Just a thought...thumbs up my comment if you think this would be a good future project for Matthias!

  • @michaelnew1962
    @michaelnew1962 Před 9 lety +3

    An artist, plain and simple
    Cheers

  • @drstampfli
    @drstampfli Před 9 lety +16

    Matthias Wandel I sense you have really turned a corner with this video.

  • @davidlawson9743
    @davidlawson9743 Před 9 lety

    Thanks for the upgrade to the software.

  • @luisvllo8764
    @luisvllo8764 Před 2 lety

    This is awesome! You can make a spinning wheel for pottery!!

  • @Retro_Hacker
    @Retro_Hacker Před 9 lety

    WOW,i make elements like this with cnc machine and you make it with your hands,awesome!!!!!!

  • @TheMrWoodsman
    @TheMrWoodsman Před 9 lety

    Very informative and not a Micro jig Gripper in sight.

  • @joethrift1926
    @joethrift1926 Před 9 lety

    Thank you! I will be updating.

  • @briantaylor9266
    @briantaylor9266 Před 9 lety

    In your video on making the screw jack, you mentioned the pressure angle is 14 degrees. That happens to be the same angle as a common dovetail router bit. Could the bevel gears be cut using a dovetail bit and a guide bushing with a template? The template need only be for one tooth and indexed around the circle. The CNC guys could also use a dovetail bit instead on a ball nose.

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety +1

      Brian Taylor If you like lots of airborne dust and smoke, then possibly. But a bandsaw is faster and easier.

  • @MUSEDR00L
    @MUSEDR00L Před 9 lety

    If the width of the teeth is about even in the middle of the tooth, then they should mesh on the same plane if one gear is flipped over so the wide part of one gear's teeth fall into the wider gap of the other gear's teeth. Theoretically.

  • @pedroarratia6647
    @pedroarratia6647 Před 9 lety

    Genial su proyecto Matthias, gracias por compartir.

  • @samuelkamau2174
    @samuelkamau2174 Před 3 lety

    Lovely creativity!!!

  • @raiddecoration8815
    @raiddecoration8815 Před 9 lety

    Im from morocco i like your job

  • @likotube
    @likotube Před 9 lety

    Hello Matthias! Your videos are great for sure are the web's best. I have learned a lot from them. Your website is very rich, full of important information. I live in Brazil and here is no common build wooden houses. But I'm thinking about build my own house. You know a site that has housing projects? Excuse my English. Big hug and wish you much success.

  • @ShaunBrownintheworkshop

    I never thought I'd comment on gears, but they sure look nice. you need to use the gears to squeeze glue, cause apparently the last video didn't have enough glue for everyone

  • @cartoon80s90s
    @cartoon80s90s Před 9 lety +2

    Great video, and the new gears look cool. One question. Which language did you use to write the program?

  • @jeanious2009
    @jeanious2009 Před 9 lety

    Looks much more beefier...NICE!!!

  • @PayneMaximus
    @PayneMaximus Před 9 lety

    Nice work, Matthias! You make so much projects with gears that you should call yourself the "Steampunk woodworker".

  • @ThePilotPenguin1
    @ThePilotPenguin1 Před 9 lety

    3:20 like didn't expect that would happen when i was young i would always wounder what could i put in the drill chuck i started watching this series on the discovery channel called gold rush and after about 1 season i tried to make a shaker deck and i used a drill to make it shake it didn't work well but it was fun :)

  • @61066clocks
    @61066clocks Před 9 lety

    Mathias Your gear generator program is great, have had it ever since you come out with it, thanks for all the continued updates, even when not making gears , it is useful for segmenting a circle, any chance of a addition in the near future of adding a spiral program to it? would be useful in a lot of different ways , Thanks for all the videos ,very Much appreciated

  • @MrTridac
    @MrTridac Před 9 lety

    Cool. What next, a manual gearbox? A differential?

  • @calaban9
    @calaban9 Před 6 lety

    Do you think using beveled router bit with a reduced size gear as a template could do the job easier? I'm about to start experimenting with some right angle gears in a puzzle box.

  • @GeorgeGardinier
    @GeorgeGardinier Před 9 lety

    all of this is good but what is the point where the gear can not handle, the stuff broke at 160 pounds, what is the limit of the gears?

  • @spinafire
    @spinafire Před 9 lety

    Wow, great design and looks fairly simple to cut (on a bandsaw at least). Do you have a special set up for sharpening chisels or do you just use a belt sander or something?

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety

      spinafire Just free hand on a white wheel grinder.

  • @EthanDickerDesign
    @EthanDickerDesign Před 9 lety +3

    what varnish do you use?

  • @shedloadsoffun2093
    @shedloadsoffun2093 Před 3 lety

    Do you you think this would work for transferring power for on a mower engine to the rear wheels of a go cart. Will they hold up to the torque?

  • @ScrapwoodCity
    @ScrapwoodCity Před 9 lety +1

    I just can't think of a creative comment! A W E S O M E! Thanks

  • @recklessroges
    @recklessroges Před 7 lety

    So worm gear next and then synchromesh gears as the final challenge?

  • @neldanie
    @neldanie Před 3 lety

    You are a god amongst men.

  • @crankyjew2d2
    @crankyjew2d2 Před 9 lety +1

    when do we get to see wooden hypoid gears?

  • @adarshsnair5305
    @adarshsnair5305 Před 3 lety

    thanks this video gave me hope

  • @ruthalfradique306
    @ruthalfradique306 Před 4 lety

    Muito boa a explicação parabéns.

  • @GaryTruesdale
    @GaryTruesdale Před 9 lety

    pretty nice gears!

  • @kemaltatar205
    @kemaltatar205 Před 2 lety

    Çevirmeli balık makarası yaparsanız, çok memnun olurum, saygılarımla.
    I would be very pleased if you could make a fish reel with a dial-up.
    Kindest regards

  • @steveknight8870
    @steveknight8870 Před 9 lety

    Can I borrow your brain for a while? Mine isn't performing to a standard that I'm happy with.
    Always impressive. Keep. Em coming

  • @johnerickennedy
    @johnerickennedy Před 9 lety

    Quel bel qualité de vidéo. Vous me semblez-être un homme avisé mon cher.. Félicitations, très intéressant.. Have a nice weekend..

  • @marciogalafasse116
    @marciogalafasse116 Před 4 lety

    Olá Matthias
    Você mandaria o desenho dessas duas engrenagens a grande e a pequena
    para mim no Brasil?
    Desde já obrigado.

  • @ICUNA22
    @ICUNA22 Před 9 lety

    The use of baltic birch may not be obvious to some viewers. Normal plywood would not have the qualities needed to make these gears, since it is much less stable and can even have voids, further reducing the strength of the gear and causing snags in the meshing.

    • @Heraclitean
      @Heraclitean Před 6 lety

      Stable enough, and you can just use a patch without voids, or fill the voids. The voids wouldn't impede functioning anyway. You absolutely don't need baltic birch for this.

  • @Marciukasb
    @Marciukasb Před 9 lety

    Is it possible to make a rack and pinion drive in gear generator?

  • @milesswoodwork3538
    @milesswoodwork3538 Před 9 lety

    Good job, thanks for inspiration!

  • @joseespinozamere5307
    @joseespinozamere5307 Před 9 měsíci

    Good morning, what angle do you use to cut the gears?

  • @aviatorbja
    @aviatorbja Před 9 lety

    You need a hypoid gear set !

  • @ianm1898
    @ianm1898 Před 3 lety

    Hi matthias, I am ian
    i am new in cad modelling
    I faced a problem when i make a 3d mechanical toys
    I use Autodesk Inventor student license, I make the gear with power transmission generator
    I really want to make my gear more beautiful with round edges but if I make gear manually I worry it will stuck
    could you give me a sugestion
    thank you

  • @AndreyOvcharov
    @AndreyOvcharov Před 9 lety

    I feel the smell of plywood when I watch this:)

  • @BarneySaysHi
    @BarneySaysHi Před 9 lety +2

    Hi Matthias, that looks like an awful lot of work for just two gears... Isn't it possible to make a small jig for your pantorouter so you can use a small routerbit?

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety

      BarneySaysHi doing it that way would be even more work.

    • @darkobul1
      @darkobul1 Před 9 lety

      Matthias Wandel 3d printer. I for days am printing gears and just think how many steps are needed to make them in metal traditional way. This 3d printers are getting very easy to use. I found also great program for cad its called OpenScad and i am blown away with how many gear scripts are out there. Check it out!

  • @hoots02
    @hoots02 Před 9 lety

    nice work

  • @dougparker6436
    @dougparker6436 Před 9 lety

    Nice work.
    How close are you to using your router tenon jig or your pantorouter (both with an attachment) to cut these gear teeth?

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety

      Doug Parker The bandsaw is the best tool for the job.

  • @user-mz3rp9bv8b
    @user-mz3rp9bv8b Před 9 lety

    Подскажите как расчитать количество зубьев и шаг зуба.Спасибо.

  • @Nabokov50
    @Nabokov50 Před 9 lety

    When you say varnish do you mean varathane, or an equivalent water soluable product?

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety +1

      Keith Wilson I use a water based product. The floor varnish is quite hard and slippery

  • @mrskwrl
    @mrskwrl Před 4 lety

    Amazing.

  • @theodoreother7380
    @theodoreother7380 Před 9 lety

    Smooth running

  • @nathangold9775
    @nathangold9775 Před 9 lety

    Matthias, Couldn't you get closer to a true bevel gear if you cut them so that the blade always angles away from the center of the gear? I recognize that you won't be able to make them as quickly and you might have to make a jig to achieve consistency or even the more extreme angle required but you'll end up with teeth that don't taper to one side. Instead, the trough (or whatever the low spot between the gears is called) is beveled. It would be interesting to see you try this. If anyone can pull this off, you can.

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety

      Nathan Au Thought about it a long time ago, decided not to do it.

  • @virtualfather4117
    @virtualfather4117 Před 9 lety

    what about using your 3d panarouter?

  • @nyunyutharto1086
    @nyunyutharto1086 Před rokem

    Tanksvmch , 10 tumbl for this video

  • @JaySybrandy
    @JaySybrandy Před 6 lety

    What about the gears you use with your box joint jig?

  • @wimvangeyt3866
    @wimvangeyt3866 Před 2 lety

    You can use those gears to move a sawblade in a tablesaw :D.

  • @MirrorOnTheWall23
    @MirrorOnTheWall23 Před 9 lety

    umm ... where are the settings on the program?

  • @mickstephenson
    @mickstephenson Před 9 lety

    Do you have a recommendation for a large format printer? I always seem to end up buying the slowest, most high maintenance and generally annoying printers.

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety

      Michael Stephenson I just use a printer that cost $50. And if it doesn't fit on one sheet, I go across multiple pages. The gear program does this automatically, for other stuff, I use my BigPrint program.

  • @giuseppe281
    @giuseppe281 Před 6 lety

    Che programma hai per creare gli ingranaggi?

  •  Před 9 lety

    hi, may I ask, what language did you write this program?

  • @FredrikRambris
    @FredrikRambris Před 9 lety

    Math: Woodworkers best friend.

  • @DragonsREpic
    @DragonsREpic Před 8 lety +2

    holy shit , this guy is fuckin smart

  • @DiHandley
    @DiHandley Před 9 lety

    Wouldn't reducing the angle have the same effect?

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety

      You need an angle on the teeth, otherwise they don't mesh very well.

  • @joku900
    @joku900 Před 9 lety +1

    Yeah!

  • @AlexRudenko-hq6rf
    @AlexRudenko-hq6rf Před 9 lety

    You can try do them on your pantorouter

  • @nonyobussiness3440
    @nonyobussiness3440 Před 9 lety

    How are you liking the raspberry pi b+?

  • @tom7601
    @tom7601 Před 9 lety

    Do you use some kind of wax on the gear tooth surfaces for lubrication?

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety +2

      I put some varnish on that's fairly slippery (like I say in the video). Wax would help too, no doubt, but I haven't tried it.

  • @serektaibah4091
    @serektaibah4091 Před 7 lety

    what is the name of that liquid u put on the gear to make it slippery ? i couldnt hear you clearly when you said it in the video

  • @smasterross
    @smasterross Před 9 lety

    I always hope for a Matthias Wandel video when I open my sub box. Would you consider creating an online gear generator with JavaScript? I would be more than happy to chip in.

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety

      Steven Ross already have one in flash.

    • @smasterross
      @smasterross Před 9 lety

      Matthias Wandel I had a look at that before I posted, thought a JS application would be more versatile. Would love to use it on a tablet for example. You could even use the same code for a cross platform desktop application. What's your opinion?

    • @woodnerdbill
      @woodnerdbill Před 9 lety

      Steven Ross What about www.geargenerator.com

    • @smasterross
      @smasterross Před 9 lety

      Woodnerd
      Very well designed app, limited in comparison to Matthias's desktop application but that is to be expected.

    • @TheBrick2
      @TheBrick2 Před 9 lety

      I've used some SCAD scripts to quickly though together some gears as an alternative..

  • @lucifer808fighter
    @lucifer808fighter Před 7 lety

    do you think you could make me custom ones

  • @vmartins81
    @vmartins81 Před 4 lety

    Hi Mathias, I need some costume gears done for a camera follow focus gear project, can you do them or do you know where can I get them. thank you in advance

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 4 lety

      If its for a cosutme, I assume they don't have to work or even turn, so just make them out of cardboard.

    • @vmartins81
      @vmartins81 Před 4 lety

      @@matthiaswandel "custom made" to fit a lens follow focus, two gears, one with 80mm diameter and connection with 20mm. thank you

  • @livefromhollywood194
    @livefromhollywood194 Před 9 lety

    What language is your gear generator program written in?

  • @rutgerhoutdijk3547
    @rutgerhoutdijk3547 Před 9 lety

    Can you make gears with the pantorouter?

  • @batcathatsatchat
    @batcathatsatchat Před 9 lety

    Where do you buy your plywood? I assume not at the big box store. Where did you buy it in KW?

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety

      I used to buy it at Home Depot. But look for a hardwood store (I know KW has one, somewhere in the south of Kitchener, but I don't remember the name)

    • @batcathatsatchat
      @batcathatsatchat Před 9 lety

      Cool, thanks for the tip. And really? You could buy baltic birch type plywood at home depot? Maybe I'm just not looking hard enough...

  • @romanmartinfran
    @romanmartinfran Před 9 lety

    Un crack Matias.

  • @NerdaRang
    @NerdaRang Před 9 lety

    How about setting it up to create a CNC file to cut the angles.

    • @matthiaswandel
      @matthiaswandel  Před 9 lety +1

      Thought about that, but that would be an awful lot of programming, and even with a ballnose bits, it would take a crazy number of passes to get the shape. Bandsaw is much easier.

    • @dumle29
      @dumle29 Před 9 lety

      Matthias Wandel I'm not familiar with your program, but if it can export dxf files? Now for these sorts of gears, I suppose the program would have to be entirely re-written to work with 3D models, in order to export stl files. Not having a CNC I don't know what tool chain one uses for 3D structures, though I'd think it a similar process as 3D printing.
      3D modeling software -> stl -> slicer program -> gcode -> CNC machine

    • @berni8k
      @berni8k Před 9 lety

      dumle29 The print feature will spit out a vector art of the gear, a lot of laser cutters can act as a vector printer to directly make the gear or you could print to a pdf and then convert it to some cad friendly format with CorelDraw or whatever your favorite vector drawing program is.

    • @superdau
      @superdau Před 9 lety

      dumle29
      That doens't help in the passes needed. To get an angled surface it has to be done in many separate layers, each one talking a little less material than the previous one. Or you have to do an aweful lot of sanding, which in the end will result in differently shaped teeth again and defeat the whole purpose of CNC.
      But in one thing I agree: Seen the work involved in making gears, I'll never make wooden ones myself, angled or not.

    • @dumle29
      @dumle29 Před 9 lety

      superdau Nah I mainly meant CNC for flat gears could be nice, and time is of no concern with a leave and let go CNC, Wouldn't mind having to sand them either (Mathias does so in the video as well, so it's not an additional step)

  • @mgafMUAT
    @mgafMUAT Před 9 lety

    That plywood you used looks oddly beautiful.... Why?

  • @Ivangomez-bo7vs
    @Ivangomez-bo7vs Před 7 lety

    is this feature in the free gear generator program?

  • @MrLiveEra
    @MrLiveEra Před 9 lety

    You couldn't get a Canadian penny in those gaps!

  • @jeketshah4119
    @jeketshah4119 Před 9 lety

    Tq

  • @user-hh3fb5uz9b
    @user-hh3fb5uz9b Před 7 lety

    Need to print gears.

  • @Bublerkin
    @Bublerkin Před 9 lety +1

    Yay :)

  • @sharzanco
    @sharzanco Před 5 lety

    I advise to buy CBC machine .

  • @psion5mxfred
    @psion5mxfred Před 9 lety

    Just thanks :-)

  • @stringmanipulator
    @stringmanipulator Před 9 lety

    Nice :)

  • @FixAllFixer62
    @FixAllFixer62 Před 9 lety

    So u made thicker so make teeth wider