Bitwig's filters are top notch, but you're probably missing out if you ignore how thy behave! 🎶

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  • čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
  • Bitwig's filters sound amazing, but they are very sensitive to input levels! I knew this for a long time, but underestimated how much this behavior impacts the way they sound, and at how low levels they will actually star clipping.
    0:00 Intro
    0:55 Get started with the Moog filter
    3:15 The Q-Limit
    6:20 The XP
    8:40 The Sallen-Key
    10:10 The Comb
    12:00 The Vowels
    13:10 The Filter+
    14:40 Outro
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Komentáře • 50

  • @FuncKeR
    @FuncKeR Před 28 dny +8

    What a massive timbre difference it makes knowing about this behavior of the filets, which I had no clue about until watching this video. Suddenly I feel like I have 2x the filter's in the Grid now. Great content as always! Cheers

    • @rumblechannel6343
      @rumblechannel6343  Před 28 dny +1

      Wasn't so sure if that video was really needed, or if I would just expose myself 😅. But it looks like I wasn't the only one who overlooked it.

  • @joelyford5558
    @joelyford5558 Před 2 dny

    Watched this and now I never touch a filter in the grid without changing from -10 to +12, and now I got my reso meniscus back 🎉 Thank you!

  • @PolarityMusic
    @PolarityMusic Před 28 dny +8

    good tips! (i guess thats why the input gain of the filter is called "drive" and not "gain") 😅

  • @3DaveO
    @3DaveO Před 12 dny +1

    Awesome video ! 90 seconds in and I already picked up a new way of understanding the wave forms/shapes. DANKE, keep up the good content:)

  • @chitlun
    @chitlun Před 14 dny

    This is a game changer and opens up another layer of sound design. Thank you for sharing these fantastic tips and a new sub here for thee! ✌️

  • @BorisBarroso
    @BorisBarroso Před 28 dny +3

    Thanks for sharing this. So good to see I can now create those rubbery sounds with Bitwig's filters. And now everything will change.

  • @studiobischof
    @studiobischof Před 14 dny

    Thanks for this descriptive overview!

  • @joesayle2213
    @joesayle2213 Před 11 dny

    Interesting I always placed a gain reduction before the filter. Just because I noticed the driven sound. But I never bothered to test it. Great Vid !

  • @SolarLiner
    @SolarLiner Před 25 dny

    I wish they would either change the default for the Q limit parameter, or make it more prominent, because it feels like nobody else knows about this, and think the filters don't sound all that great. It's available everywhere, Polymer and Filter+ included, at least by right-clicking on it.

    • @rumblechannel6343
      @rumblechannel6343  Před 24 dny

      Yeah it's a strange default setting. Just recently learned about the right click option. That make life a little easier :)

  • @toptop7644
    @toptop7644 Před 26 dny

    Many thanks for the tips! I never changed the resonance limit but it affects the sound a lot, thanks for sharing 🙏 😅Regarding filter+ I realised you can set the resonance limit by right click next to the cutoff/resonance knob. You can then save this as a present and it will be restored. But when you select one of the new filter rasp for example you have other options by right clicking (feedback limit in this case) and when you switch back to a normal filter with 'resonance limit' it will be set to -10db again.

  • @jumpstar9000
    @jumpstar9000 Před 28 dny

    Ooh thanks for doing these experiments.I had noticed there was something going on and usually gain stage stuff to mitigate the effect, but I never dove into it formally. Very nice.

  • @pbrninja19
    @pbrninja19 Před 28 dny +1

    Wow, very smart observation and demonstration setup. Thanks.

  • @BenedictRoffMarsh
    @BenedictRoffMarsh Před 22 dny

    Sneaky, sneaky, sneaky. I figure moaty DAWs & VST etc do this. Not illegal as such but it does give a more blammin' sound than "honest" settings would. This explains/confirms how other VST and DAWs initially appear to be more "sound goodified" than default settings in Reason devices which traditionally are more clean. Of course, the user can then 'do their do' to get the sound they want (assuming they know how) - just as you showed here how to undo the default sound.
    :-)

  • @paterfiets
    @paterfiets Před 28 dny +1

    Another great vid ! Something thats also often overlooked is the clipping behavior/settings of the output module. I also think that in devices like polymer or filter+ these settings should be accessible in the inspector instead of having to convert into a grid...

  • @PrincipalAudio
    @PrincipalAudio Před 28 dny

    I found this out years ago when I was using FabFilter Micro. That plugin is notoriously "distortiony" sounding. However, it has input and output gain knobs right next to one another that have 36dB of reduction/gain, which I believe may have been put there on purpose but the devs. It's something a lot of people still don't seem to know about. Thanks for the vid. :)

  • @shaboogen
    @shaboogen Před 28 dny

    Incredible content as always.

  • @nyjelj
    @nyjelj Před 23 dny

    This is massive. Thanks !

  • @user-xe8qd1vc5i
    @user-xe8qd1vc5i Před 27 dny

    Filter goes BRRRRR-WUBWUB... Sehr geil

    • @rumblechannel6343
      @rumblechannel6343  Před 27 dny +2

      Probier mal filter FM mit einem Sine Oscillator, der eine Oktave tiefer gestimmt ist :). Und dann die Resonanz hochdrehen!

  • @Jungli.Zenorah
    @Jungli.Zenorah Před 28 dny +1

    Just came across ur channel. Excellent content. Great way to get into the grid 🙂. Also those filters r sexy af ❤

  • @VanillaCreamSoda
    @VanillaCreamSoda Před 28 dny

    Thank you for this info!

  • @GodelsPrison
    @GodelsPrison Před 27 dny

    Great findings well presented. Subbed.

  • @rico77yt
    @rico77yt Před 28 dny

    Excellent explanation. Subbed!

  • @mudi2000a
    @mudi2000a Před 25 dny

    Thank you!! This video is “ear-opening”!

  • @CB-td4fz
    @CB-td4fz Před 28 dny

    This is the missing link for me. I wasn't able to get the sound I was looking for in a bass with the bitwig filters and this is probably the reason why.

  • @juozasg
    @juozasg Před 27 dny

    Need more of this type of videos! I'm a beginner so when I'm working on something in Bitwig I'm noticing the sound moves around when I move gain around but I don't always understand why. Are my ears getting confused from changes in relative loudness or is something different happening? I could study every device methodically but I don't have enough time. A lot of content-farm type of tutorials show using the devices under specific conditions and highly-tuned setups without explaining any of that. I am left dumbfounded when I fail to achieve same sound in my track. Tutorials like these set the course for learning how these tools actually respond.

    • @rumblechannel6343
      @rumblechannel6343  Před 26 dny

      I'm afraid my tutorials are usually more advanced, but I'm glad it helped :). And I always try to make them in a way that the results should be reproducible, even if some might not completely understand what's going on.

  • @TildeSounds
    @TildeSounds Před 28 dny

    Hell yeah, always great to see you post. I got really annoyed by how easily they saturate quite recently. Nice top notch pun too, if that's even intended. Edit: lmfao schmatzig

  • @Fedor_Tkachev_Music
    @Fedor_Tkachev_Music Před 27 dny

    didn't know this! thanks!

  • @gameboyz7497
    @gameboyz7497 Před 28 dny

    great stuff as always dam how i love delay lama

  • @MiNiZeRo1
    @MiNiZeRo1 Před 28 dny

    Thank you!!!! I always withdrew to vital/serum when the filter didn't make sense to me in the oscilloscope.

  • @sascha10489
    @sascha10489 Před 28 dny

    Wow I guess that’s an important one🙏🏽

  • @nekoDan
    @nekoDan Před 28 dny

    Interesting and informative! Is there a performance issue with boosting the Q limit?

  • @zelo8913
    @zelo8913 Před 28 dny

    Holy Shit, thanks for the incredible Video

  • @clown134
    @clown134 Před 28 dny

    i use fl studio but this is just so interesting

  • @woopeedyscoop1858
    @woopeedyscoop1858 Před 28 dny

    danke

  • @melechben
    @melechben Před 28 dny

    schmutzig is dirty ;-)
    danke tolle neue info für mich.

    • @leo.nordmann
      @leo.nordmann Před 28 dny +1

      No, he meant "schmatzig".
      "Schmatzen", the verb is the sound you make when you smack your lips/mouth together while eating eating.

  • @LaymensLament
    @LaymensLament Před 27 dny

    schmatzig?! i dont think ive ever said that 😂