Man United DISASTER! RASHFORD & TEN HAG OUT🚨
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Terry's in full on defence mode.
Rashford needs to find his balance, a few season ago we were pissed because he wasn't taking players on. Now he has a striker and runners to pass to, however what's more concerning he doesn't defend or show enthusiasm without the ball.
He needs to find a new club honestly him and shaw and martial they have been here way too long
He's not got football intelligence, he's a player that only works in moments or instinct, he can run fast n shoot🤷🏾♂️but he don't dictate a game
Rashfords defensive contribution is worse than Ronaldo's. Yet United were quick to get rid Europe's greatest goalscorer this generation so they can have Rashford do less? 😂
They also signed an average keeper who knows how to do accurate long passes and get rid of their best keeper in the last decade who won the golden glove last season and still probably is one of the best shot stoppers in Europe 😂
They got rid of Fred for Money Mason who had serious injury concerns last season at Chelsea and has shown nothing yet and has unbalanced the midfield 😅
United bought Antony for £100mill who can't beat a defender only knows how to beat women 😂 and ostracized their £75mill winger who had superior qualities at Dortmund than Anthony, has more technical ability and a proven record at Dortmund with and without haaland 😂 yet a woman beater and a graypist got more love from the manager and United hierarchy 😂
Without glazers United will be spending big. With glazers United are spending big. Bad owners matter at Liverpool or QPR...not United. In fact the United football side really does not need to know what's happening behind the scenes. They have the finances to compete with the elite in Europe and they have been spending that money to compete with the best in Europe. This all boils down to Jose sacking. The second United sacked Jose it went downhill, and to make matters worse they had a rookie manager with no success absolutely destroy the small amounts of success and winning mentality Jose had built. United fans were over the moon when they sacked a world class manager who won the most amount of trophies since fergie left, for a trendy young manager with no experience with the big boys 😂 all because it was the trendy thing to hate on dinasoaur Jose...but same group backed Greenwood to the hill 😂
United are washed, fans are washed, players washed, managers and coaches washed 😂 the only ones winning big at United are the Glazers 😂 and they have spent the most in Europe in the last 10 years to get United back to where they belong, so no one can say they have been the problem.
Terry is coping hard.
It's annoying hearing fans say Rashford needs to step up or start doing this or that, he is the finished article, there's nothing more to get out of him, he is what he is and we need someone better or at least far more versatile
Rashford needs to be gone,he is just a waste of time
Rashford has 7 goals in his last 27 games but apparently we don’t score goal without Rashford…get him out.
7-0 HAAG OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT
The hype he got from fans made his ego bigger it's him trying to score to impress the fans forgetting its team work and his selfishness will cost them
Rashford will forever be a purple patch player with no football IQ
Who else is scoring?
Total agreement with Terry. Man Utd are going through a tricky time with key players missing from the team. The formation the team played was good but the players didn't stick to the plan. Every player has a role and that is to boss its assigned areas or stripe of the pitch - the defense and midfielders didnt.. Do feel Ten Hag is the right manager .. Fans needs to be patient wait until Man Utd recover all its player and adapt to the diamoind style Ten Hag implemented. Man Utd will be a slow burner but it will come good.. Also utd Sporting director and running of the club is the issue - it has qulaity players but all have attributes that does not favor the manager. This club needs to go back to basics.
Very good sensible comment. There's too much knee jerk reaction these days especially from the youtubers who are just trying to get click bait & more sucker subscribers. They never say anything positive even when things are going well!
The plan was not good at all.
It was very obvious that Eriksen would never be able to keep it up as much as that plan needed for long.
And the moment Brighton changed their tactics a bit and widened their play, ETH's plan fell apart.
It was so extremely obvious to see.
But you clearly didn't see that and blame the players.
ETH clearly was not able to see that or to stubborn to change his plan.
You yourself even say that we need to wait for our injured players to come back for the diamond to work, and still you blame the players on the pitch.
ETH should never have played the diamond with the players he had available.
And him not able to understand that, tells me that he is totally out of his depths.
My biggest issue with rashford especially this season is his creativity. As a goal scorer its fine but he needs to balance his play. As you can see the previous game 9 shots and 1 chance created. As far as am concerned individually those starts are really good for him but not the team overall. He ain't a striker he needs to be more selfless and find his team mates in better position if not he can then shot.
I've been saying for a while, Rashford's biggest weakness is the consistency of his decision making in the final third. Its extremely fustrating to watch. Hojlund will be a waste of a transfer if Rashford continues to play like this.
@Will-Lloyd Kyere I honestly think the guy is limited and NOT the sublimely talented player many insist he is. Great at his own little Rashford moves, but ask him to modify...FORGET IT...dummy gets spat out..hands up in the air etc etc...fans are getting sick to death of him. Ofcourse he isn't the only one. I will be amazed if this crew don't throw Ten Hag under the bus. Am i a massive Ten Hag fan?...absolutely not..i think he's far too cerebral and rigid , but changing the manager aint going to have these players stepping up. Too many of them lack the discipline and spirit to be truly good team players....i wouldn't keep many of them if money was no object...but ofcourse it is and always will be while the parasites remain owners. Damn sad what's happened to this club.
@delta fay I agree with Rashford being limited. He’s 26 soon , you can’t teach football iq to an old dog. Ten hag has a few weaknesses with style of play, stubbornness and his talent ID for some of the transfers(everyone so far bar Hojlund and Casemiro has an eredivise/ Dutch association) At the same time if the club was run properly our DOF would take charge of recruiting players to suit the playing style, we wouldn’t have even half of the off field issues going on and we’d be able to judge him a lot harder without all the nonsense surrounding him rn
Just my view. Its starts from the top. The essential problem started 10 years ago, not now... you need owners with a vision, whatever that might be. Buy a top quality 11 and mould them into a winning team, buy young talented players and let them grow and develop together, with a handful of quality experienced players, etc., etc. whatever it is. With a manager who has a system, philosophy, etc. Then have the nerve/balls/belief and ambition to back it AND **see it through**. This hasn't happened at utd in the last 10 years.
If you have no vision, everything becomes reactionary and short term thinking i.e. almost buying players at random to fulfil a need, like 'we need a LB'. You get one, they maybe decent. even good, but there's no profiling of that particular player. Their mentality, their attributes that fit with your system/philosophy and so on.
In my opinion singling out individual players or the manager (even though you can and it might even be spot on), is ultimately the symptom you are critiquing NOT the fundamental cause. Currently your club is doomed to be stuck in this loop, unless someone implements a vision that is shared throughout the club. Just how I see it, for what its worth.
Am soo angry tht we utd fans arent seeing how glazers PR department is turning our attention to hating ten haag and after sacking twn haag glazer are buying themselves another year
@Soothing Relaxation Sounds yeah 💯. We had it at arsenal for years. Its only since the Kronke's became sole owners and implemented an actual vision for the club has things changed. Hey it might not work, Arteta might not be the one to bring us trophies, but at least you can see what the club is trying to do, from top to bottom. The vision, culture, etc. That at last gives you hope as a fan and even if it doesn't work under Arteta, the essential structure/the foundations are there for the next manager. That's what you need at utd, but in your own way. You need to get **your** utd back, not the one the Glaziers have created...
Rashfords defensive contribution is worse than Ronaldo's. Yet United were quick to get rid Europe's greatest goalscorer this generation so they can have Rashford do less? 😂
They also signed an average keeper who knows how to do accurate long passes and get rid of their best keeper in the last decade who won the golden glove last season and still probably is one of the best shot stoppers in Europe 😂
They got rid of Fred for Money Mason who had serious injury concerns last season at Chelsea and has shown nothing yet and has unbalanced the midfield 😅
United bought Antony for £100mill who can't beat a defender only knows how to beat women 😂 and ostracized their £75mill winger who had superior qualities at Dortmund than Anthony, has more technical ability and a proven record at Dortmund with and without haaland 😂 yet a woman beater and a graypist got more love from the manager and United hierarchy 😂
Without glazers United will be spending big. With glazers United are spending big. Bad owners matter at Liverpool or QPR...not United. In fact the United football side really does not need to know what's happening behind the scenes. They have the finances to compete with the elite in Europe and they have been spending that money to compete with the best in Europe. This all boils down to Jose sacking. The second United sacked Jose it went downhill, and to make matters worse they had a rookie manager with no success absolutely destroy the small amounts of success and winning mentality Jose had built. United fans were over the moon when they sacked a world class manager who won the most amount of trophies since fergie left, for a trendy young manager with no experience with the big boys 😂 all because it was the trendy thing to hate on dinasoaur Jose...but same group backed Greenwood to the hill 😂
United are washed, fans are washed, players washed, managers and coaches washed 😂 the only ones winning big at United are the Glazers 😂 and they have spent the most in Europe in the last 10 years to get United back to where they belong, so no one can say they have been the problem.
Terry is coping hard.
@Gooner_Dukewhat has changed at arsenal? Arsenal are doing what they should be doing, finishing top 4 winning CL money and keeping their pr strong across the globe by finishing top 4.
I'm yet to see arsenal win anything of note in the last 20 years 😂
Have seen the whole club vision thing play out 4 different times in the past with arsenal in the last 20 years...to no avail.
Have seen them spend big and still never compete. So what's so different this time? Since kroenke majority, Chelsea have won the CL and competed in 5 different finals? They have also had their club hierarchy ripped apart and forced into new ownership and still see more ambition from them to win something big than at arsenal 😂
Arsenal fans are once again being played by Kroenke pr team thinking he is building something special for the long term 😂 but as always it may amount to 1-2 fa cups, 0 pl or cl and the top 4, soon to be top 5 trophy for maybe 3-4 seasons in a row.
That is arsenal, stop coping with the story you have created for yourselves 😂 about kroenke and his grand vision. You 🤡 are getting played once again 😅
@Lynx Sphynxyou’d have to be seriously deluded not to see how Arsenal have been moving in the right direction compared to where they were and but for squad depth they would have won the league last year against probably the greatest PL team of all time
Gotta give Erik time, there may be times where you you feel like your taking a step back in order to go forward look at Klopp and Arteta both struggled in the early years, and you could argue the job of turning united Round is the toughest job in football
Klopp didnt struggle...liverpool got champions league football in klopps first full season.
Nah. Arteta had a rough time because he completely changed the squad, even in early days you could see his tactics you could see SIGNS of what was to come. Ten Hag has no style of play, at all. United have no identity. Not to mention he cries and blames everyone else for bad results, blames refs and decisions and makes excuses. He’s out of his depth.
@Sunny GogoiErik got champs league football in His first season you mong what’s your point. And they situation that united squad was in from the season before that was a huge achievement for Erik.
@Tdoggghis point is that Klopp didn't struggle, nothing about ten hag, learn to read properly
@Sunny GogoiBut still, Klopp struggled as he had Lovren who played like a clown in defence.
I'm a gooner and I completely agree with Terry. Young untested manager aside, the reason Arsenal are in a better place atm is because the ownership have recognised failings in the club and are trying to rectify them. Albeit after a disastrous foray into the European Super League. Did that open their eyes, only they can say. But the Glaziers don't care, all they see is £££s. Until United fans, pun intended, unite and open their eyes or force them out, nothing will change. Even if the manager is substandard, even if his signings aren't good enough. Ultimately the buck stops with them and they're at fault regardless. The same for Arsenal if Arteta fails, they employed him, so they will be at fault.
The glazers is not the problem is the acquisition of players and coaches..united have spend tbe most over the pass 5to10 years the glazers dnt pick players
I agree. arsenal took years to get here. can't give to much credit to the board that have no balls to sack wenger. I firmly believe wenger will be afc manager today if he chose to stay. I am more interested looking at lfc, yes it took them nearly 30 years to win the pl. they are judge like a proper big team (need to win thing)and when klopp fumbles last season nobody can fault the fans that want him out.while Arleta situation are different. they were always look at as challenger while man Utd and lfc are judge differently. no cup u are a failure. while I think Arleta will be save as long as he keep arsenal challenging even without winning anything.
The Glaziers employ the people who pick the players, if they're not picking the right players then the Glaziers have failed to employ the right employees. Still their failing. The buck always stops with the ownership
@Chris Blinman yeah. that's what they done at NFL franchise. and they won a championship with that. the thing is they really love American football. but I can't say that if you don't understand the football culture u can't win because lfc ownership have debunked that by winning pl and Cl. people are looking for somebody to blame. BTW. do u agree with my statement that wenger will still be at afc if he chose to stay? because I never saw the so call genius arsenal board ever try to push him out
Whilst I think that Ten Hag is a good manager, I can't see him staying at Manchester United for too long. The culture at the club is rotten which is ultimately the fault of the owners. There have been lots of problems on the pitch but until the issue at the top has been resolved, United will not be a serious club like they used to be.
If ten hag can't see rashford ain't no better than sancho defensively or pressing wise and keeps promoting him as something he ain't, other players gonna be discouraged and start doing what rashford does, walk around the pitch when they ain't got the ball resulting in lacklustre performances like Saturday.
@Dave Elcock
I think ETH is very close to losing the dressing room.
It is so extremely obvious that he is treating his players differently.
It must also be very obvious to the players that ETH speaks pure nonsense in the press conferences.
It must also be very obvious to the players that ETH's in game management is very poor.
This will most likely lead to the players losing trust in ETH and then it is only going downhill from there.
@Carnivore Look these players ain't standing on solid ground, ten hag has made some mistakes including over training these lazy players, who would throw pep under the bus , truss me on that, but ten hag deserves a chance to clean out the dross.
There's alot people posting stuff about Arteta and Klopp back then given time etc to sort their club out and to slowly build their team. But you look at Ten Hag and, after taking over the reigns off the back of the worst ever United side in EPL history, is given only 43 games to prove himself and now "fans" want him gone. It never cease to amaze me how different this club is from every other club out there. Its ridiculous. The entitlement and whatnot that gets thrown at us from rival fans are unfortunately so true.
Your fans need to humble themselves and realise this is NOT Fergies Utd. Temper expectations a bit and grow with the team. Arsenal and Liverpool fans had to put aside their ego for the first couple years and understand that they weren’t the team they think they are, but are striving to get there. Constantly comparing this team to Fergies era doesn’t achieve anything.
Of all fanbases, man united's probably has the highest proportion of people who are clueless about football
The thing is at the time there’s was hardly anybody asking to give Arteta time and Arsenal lost their first 3 open ring games of 21/22 and were 20th hindsight is 20/20. Personally I was listening to what people in football were saying, not pundits, but managers (even Jose who has no reason to be positive towards Arsenal) and players, they were all confident Arteta is the guy so I just believed them even though I had my doubts. I think Ten Hag should be given this season at least, we aren’t even 10 games in.
It isn't just the players we have it's also the ignorance at the higher levels. In fact that is the route of all our other major problems.
I have said this a billion times through the summer before even pre season.
I said we need two strikers, I even wrote a list of players I recommended for the team to invest in during the transfer window and did they lsiten or even bother considering looking into the potential scouts? No of course they didn't they let one of them (Kim Min Jae) slip off the radar and James Maddison was pushed aside for Mason Mount- Was I right on that one, yes I was.
I said that a loan of Joao Felix was a good option considering he's been linked to United before, we need someone alongside Hojlund because if Hojlund gets injured or cannot play we will be in very big trouble. Did the club listen, what do you think.
I said letting David De Gea go for free when instead we should opt for a loan deal until January of Andre Onana to see how he gets on at the club and then make a permanent decision in January when we are sure, all while keeping David De Gea because just replacing a goal keeper off the bat on the last minute is a very dangerous decision to make. I told the club that we would come to truly regret this decision as the season moves forward. Did they listen, oh do you know what the answers no to absolutely everything. People blame the scouts, wrong the scouts do their job but at the end of the day if the manager and the owners ignore it or simply go not interested what else can be realistically done? They hold the cards, they have the final say and when we literally find them legit, proven players with great work ethics and future potential they just go no we'll buy Mount, a few other players on a panic spree and a new keeper. All the players I recommended to the club before the transfer window opened have now gone on to bang in goals, win players of the month and stride their teams into success in the early season, all those players we could have at the very least put a bid in for but they didn't even do that, they didn't even consider them whatsoever. I am angered at the lack of understanding and communication and the amount of money this club is wasting on players that aren't even recommended by most of the scouting team and outside assets is a shambles. So far everything I have said about Man Utd and the direction they're heading in has been 100% spot on. They simply do not care and don't listen to the staff or even the CEO.
Man Utd have been going through this since Ferguson left. A vicious cycle. The culture at the club is rotten to the core.
Before and After. They've won 20 league and 3 champions leagues. 22 of them won by Busby and Ferguson. The other 22 managers have combined for 1 league title and 0 champions leagues.
@irieite9666 wenger won 3 leagues though
But the culture was fixed by Ole
What is a viscous circle?
@Tendai Matambanadzo vicious cycle
I’m no Man United fan but looking at the team it’s not just one player ,football is a team game and at this moment they play as if they are strangers to each other and just play as individuals.
They need to play other players even if they aren't as good just to light a fire under the ass of the first choices. Start with that Turkish Keeper they bought. He can't play much worse than Onana and even if he does then when Onana comes back he knows he needs to perform or get benched. Same thing with Rashford. Play Garnacho and show Rashford hes not above being replaced.
Great job Terry on how you inadvertently made RCA so simple to understand, even though that wasn't your primary objective.
Rashford has potential. He's always had potential. That's the trouble. He's always had potential and rarely lived up to the potentialities. He shines far too little and far too infrequently. Potential is great, but it would be better if had no potential and was great. In the words of the old song, "Why are we waiting?".
If potential has not been met at nearly 26 it likely wont be.
Rashford is extremely hot and cold.
I am all for the manager playing Rashford all the time when he is hot, but when the manager continues to play Rashford when he is very cold, then I have a huge problem with it.
Garnacho has in many games shown that he can be an amazing impact player from the bench, but still ETH kept Rashford on and didn't sub Garnacho in before the 85th minute and then he still kept Rashford on that had a proper stinker of a game.
What did ETH expect Garnacho to do in the few minutes left being 2 goals down?
I don't see Rashford as the problem here.
I see the manager as the problem.
He should not play Rashford when he is very cold like that.
Specially not when we all saw how Rashford walked around sulking and being selfish.
ETH should have dragged him of and given him a proper hairdryer treatment.
So many pundits and fans love to talk about how great Rashford is and he is very protected by English pundits and English press.
Why didn't the press push ETH harder on why he didn't sub off Rashford in the press conference after the game?
It is a joke.
Arsenal fan here Terry, and I love what you are doing, bringing good business practice and insightful thinking to elevate the conversation.
Love to engage with you at some point, keep up the good work. Remember 2 or more things can be true at the same time ;-)
Hmmm, atm UTD situation is rly tricky. TH have not started to produce since the start of the season, and i would say United played better last season than this one so far. I don't agree that Rashford is bad, i think he is doing good things on the left, although he looked not interested in press against Brighton. Casemiro looks out of form and Bruno isn't doing as much as well. I also think that TH needed to prepare better for this season and all i see are exuses from him tbh. Said that i don't think TH out is the soluton but you can't say he didnt get most of the players he wanted. Big problem is that the structure and culture is rly bad atm. You guys look disorganized at this point, and TH needs to fix that. ( not a UTD fan, just giving my two cents)
I mean, Rashy looked solid in the Scotland game - linking up with Jude, making excellent runs behind their defence, being selfless, etc. What happened between that game and the Brighton game? The same thing with Bruno and other United players. I understand that international break/games are a completely different thing but it seems like these players are CAPABLE of being on it when they want to. Maybe it's the quality of players around them, maybe it's the lack of passion for the club, or maybe Man Utd is just a toxic cesspool of negativity and drama that heavily impacts the players. 🤷♂🤷♂🤷♂
Even if the manager was sacked what would these United fans want the club to do? The only two coaches who are of a certain quality and are available right now are Julian Nagelsmann and Hansi Flick. I rate both of them for different reasons but would they even want the job knowing how shit the club is run? Both managed at BM so they know how a proper big, historic club is run. They'd see the state of the training facilities, the dilapidating OT, the pathetic scouting network, and the clowns who are responsible for handling transfers and they'd just walk away and never turn back. And why wouldn't they? Every self-respecting manager is never talking the United job ever.
Unless the current owners leave, nothing at Manchester United will change. They have never invested a CENT of their own money into the club. They have appointed bankers who have no idea what they're doing. They have taken so much money out of the club that they'd face criminal charges if they took a cent more. They are terrible football owners - they don't care about the club, the sport, or the fans. They care about profits but now the cow isn't physically capable to give milk anymore, so they have to throw it away or do they? The fans have underestimated their greed, although the cow isn't able to produce milk anymore it can still be used as meat.
People knew what was going to happen when they bought Man Utd in 2005. We were just lucky that SAF was our manager but he was just papering over the cracks at the time. It has always been an unsustainable way of running a football club. 18 years later and what a surprise - Manchester United are imploding and everything is falling apart, figuratively and literally. 😂
The Glazers are the main problem as we know..🔰🔰🔰🔰🔰I'm not Eric out but his loyalty to players who are just not doing it is mind boggling..tactics ,ingame management and team selection ..Wow...sadly Eric is gonna get the bullet if things don't improve. For me though he needs until the end of the season ..
Something is very wrong going on behind the scenes .
Respect for the root cause analysis, they really work.
Terry spot on. Lazy analysis always happens when we lose a match. Problem is 9 first team players out with injuries. Manchester United haters out in force. 10 hag is the best manager we've had since fergie. He's trying to fix the problem we have had since fergie retired. It's not a easy job. Name me a manager who has been in this situation from day 1. Root cause Glazer's all the way. Big up TFT
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You're doing alot
Terry keep up the good work
I always love your content and views and how you dissect football…
Terry I can't lie, but you guys deserve to be where you are. And once again your talking the truth. Ya'll need a proper shake up from the top like arsenal, then commit to the rebuild, image, squad and stadium.
It was never going to be a smooth ride for Erik. He did exceptionally well in his first season but the club have let him down going into the second and some injuries to a number of key players has effected the team for sure. Gotta stick by Erik. Personally I’ll will only judge him properly after 3 or 4 seasons.
I remember we were in this same position last season after few games. Look how the season ended. Let’s be patient and pray the team turns it around. All the problems we have now, we knew about e.g Varane getting injured hence the need for a better CB in Kim. We’re currently missing a few players too. It’s a marathon not a sprint. We were never going to win the league.
Sanchez wanted to return to Arsenal and cancel ManU contract after 1st training. speaks volume
When people say “back the manager” and then complain when the manager has financial support, they often forget that backing the manager includes providing structural support. Man. Utd. hasn’t provided a manager structural support yet. In fact, they terminated the one man who came on to serve as an advisor on fixing that issue in Ragnick.
The biggest issue here is Monchi has gone to Aston Villa as a sports director and we watched that happen and let Ten Hag build our squad... thats the real problem at this club and we haven't resolved it now for 12 years or there abouts
Until the Glazers are gone it's going to be a case of rinse and repeat. Although I do believe Rashford, as good as he is, is grossly overrated by a few. If he was that player, he'd be starting for England.
Agreed Terry, why fans don't understand this is beyond me
Terry always says he’s not a manager out until later, don’t worry the beautiful United Cycle shall continue
I don’t think rashford is a problem as we don’t know what he’s been told to do ten haag may be saying ‘you’re our most clinical attacker so if you think you can score go for it’ and I don’t thinks that greedy but this weekend I believe he was again im going off match of the day I didn’t watch the whole game as I’m not a Man U fan but I do honestly think from what I saw he had a couple passes to players in the box and took shots from poor angles but he’s not the main problem maybe and this is just a maybe the things people was saying about arsenal last season as they’re in the spotlight about ‘arsenal only thrived how they did on other top teams bad seasons’ maybe that was Man U last season and everyone pointed at arsenal
I'll caveat this by stating I'm a Liverpool fan, but a Liverpool Fan who likes and wants United to be a force. Not a Saudi Owned out of reach ruin the game force, but an us and you, competing at the top for honors rebuilding a storied rivalry kind of force. I think the real issue with Man U is expectation and entitlement, and that permeates all areas of your club. The Owners, The Players, the Fans, hell probably the Tea Lady. The best thing that Fergie did for you, was to make you the undisputed best in England and perhaps the world at his pomp, and that is also the worst thing he did, for your situation now. You were the best, but you no longer are, and will never have a chance of getting back there whilst standards are disproportionate to your standing. Take it from a Liverpool fan who was humbled throughout the nineties and early noughties. Look to the Arsenal fans who fell right off after Wenger, but took their situation (eventually) and accepted where they were, whilst waiting for Arteta and a bunch of up and comers to come good. It is admitadly harder for you as your era of dominance most likely lasted the longest in living memory. Also your dominant generations in the social and online space grew up knowing nothing but success, like it was your god given right at the time and forever and a day. The reality was, you had a generational manager, they aren't ten a penny. We have perhaps had a handful during the whole Premier League lifecycle, and we arguably have never had more than two at any one time. We (I would say) have two now in Pep and Klopp. The odds of you unearthing another, especially who will be that way straight off the bat is stupid. You need to re-evaluate your standards and your expectations and do as Liverpool fans did, and Arsenal fans have more recently done. you need to get back to enjoying the journey and not just the destination. You need to stop hyping every player as best in class, or potential world beaters, (because of course they are aware and it feeds into their egos,) start appreciating them as up and comers and potential. Liverpool didn't go out and get Torres and Suarez because they were best in the world at the time and they needed to compete with the top clubs, they shopped in the market below, and got players with a point to prove and the bit between their teeth. United reach for the top table and are left with scraps, when you should be cleaning up the creme de la creme from the next table down. This is at the feet of the owners and management, but stems from the noises from the fans and you (on the whole) expect and demand the best every time (Kane for example). Know your current place and build back stronger, get back to enjoying football and the adventure that comes with it, instead of bubbling in toxic fury because you aren't the current bell of the ball. I mean this not as a slight, not as a dig but as a genuine bit of advice from a Liverpool fan who lived the mediocre years to get back to a pinnacle and who can now look back at players like Djimi Traore getting a champions league medal with fondness instead of embarrassment. You will be back, but only when you check your entitlement at the door, re-evaluate and get behind the team. I doubt anyone will have bothered to read this far, but my biggest fear is that we suffer the same fate as you when Klopp leaves, if he stays long enough that a whole generation forgets life before him, then I worry for those who follow, because as you and many other teams have proven over the years, replacing a world class manager is never the easiest thing, if it is at all, even possible.
For me, we learned from Rojo that ole was told to play maguire because of how much he’s was on and how much he was bought for. With other players- case in point rashford. I think it could potentially be that ten hag has been instructed to some point to get the best out of rashford. This is the second manager in a row that has played him consistently even when he’s been bad or even not fit and injured when ole played him. It could also be that rashford is really good in training and feels he has to be the match winner every game.
Overall tho people need to back off ten hag. The glazers and the way the club is run are clearly the root cause of all issues going on.
He’s absolutely right! There’s so much shite going on at Utd. Rashford only plays well when he’s wanting a new contract. As an Arsenal fan, I’m sure you can see this.
The year was 2016 when Sir Alex Ferguson said " Rashford is what Manchester United is all about"
There is plenty of people who have said we should get rid of Varane so that is not a lie (because of his injury record)
rashford has been here 7years and shaw has been here 9years
they have both survived 4 managers, they are going to sack another manager
People always state this started happening after SAF left but the real loss was when David Gill left the same time. He knew how to run the business end of it.
The downfall of United started the day the Glazers bought the club and made Woodward the CEO.
After that, SAF lost all his power over transfers and he started to lie to us fans about why we didn't sign top players anymore.
He claimed it was no value in the market as he called it, but that was not true.
He was clearly told by Woodward that he would not get the money to buy them.
Both SAF and David Gill clearly saw the writing on the wall and understood that they needed to leave the club before the shit hit the fan.
Utd and Rashford fans were angry about him not being among the nominee’s for the Ballon d’or only a few weeks ago and now he’s one of the reasons why the tram isn’t scoring. Which is it? Personally, I agree with those who say he needs to pass more often. With his pace he should be creating assists for others to score.
As far as I can see, one of Uniteds biggest problem is a lack of effort on defence. Many of the players are happy to play on the front foot. But when called on to play defence, they let their man get away from them and dont track back. This would be unacceptable on most top teams. Would Klopp, Pep, Arteta or other good managers let that happen. I think it is also a mentality issue. Utd are seen as fragile. Even with average players, you want 100% effort. Grit and fight is the most important starting point you want from your team. Never give up, never stop fighting. Then you add skilled players into that mix. I have seen effort levels drop during Utds games when they go behind. It should be the reverse. More effort, more determination to play tough and get back on level terms. The uncompromising Will to Win.....thats whats missing. The question I have, is how many players in Utd have this grit and toughness. I dont think any of the team leaders do. The rest just follow the leaders example. Bruno is a great player. But at times he just looks like he isnt interested.
Rashford out!?? this is crazy...hes one of the best in the league, just need a proper coaching but anyway its good for other big teams if he leaves!!🙏🏼
I back ten hag 100% with what he has had to deal with. The amount of injuries we are yet to see his first eleven or even his first seven. What he did last year was a miracle he needs time and support from proper united fans and ignore the online baller fc crew. Be a proper fan and get behind him and the team.
Then your club will continue going down
Facts, the fan base call out a certain type of player when necessary but then keep quite about others. The club is a mess
terry should do a tedtalk on management. seriously. i love the way he analyses and breaks down shit.
As a liverpool fan, give over give the man a chance, its totally gone beyond a joke
now people want instant everything now a days things need to be built.
Clearly the owners at your club is a hugh issue, but to use it as an excuse for the current results i’m not sure about. Hard to see the structure and plan on the pitch, and that must be a big worry. Other manager at clubs with worse squads seems to atleast be able to put their fingerprints on the team in a way ETH doesn’t seem to be able to. I don’t think he is strong enough for a club the size of United. But not sure you lot can attract those of that quality at the moment. You look and sound a lot like we did at Liverpool in the nineties an early 2000s.
I totally agree with you.
I really don't understand our fans that are so desperate to defend ETH.
What are they seeing on the pitch and from ETH's in game management, or rather lack of, that makes them think he is a great manager?
What are they seeing that I am not able to see?
Where is ETH style of play?
Where is ETH's great tactics?
Where is ETH's great in game management?
Where is ETH's plan B or plan C?
Where do we see the players knowing what to do and knowing what they team mates will do?
Where do we see any signs of good coaching at all?
Where do we see any signs of good man management?
Terry loves backing Ten Hag. Dude its him who picks the signings and its him who picks the tactics. And tactically he is inept not only last season even this season he has been found wanting . Yet Terry thinks it isn't the managers fault 😂 rivals fans want Utd to give Ten Hag time for a reason.
Tbf to ETH he’s tried to get Maguire out and bring in another CB, but instead he’s still got Maguire and has added Evans, neither of which he wanted. Thats surely on the club for not getting the players he asked for and he’s now forced to use ones he doesn’t think are good enough.
Our fan base doesn't know anything about football
100%
My constant criticism of Rashford is he shoots in to legs far too often. He doesn't get his head up and look for the pass. Has no one ever told him, " when you draw 3 players in then one of your team mates must be unmarked".
Also if rashford wants to play like that why did he turn down striker? To play on the left you need to know when to pass and when to shoot and Saturday it seems like he wanted to just shoot I get it another loss to Brighton is frustrating but loads of big teams can lose to Britton my personal opinion is if Man U, Tottenham, Liverpool, Newcastle or even Arsenal mess up and that 4th spot up for grabs who would you say takes it? Everyone must have Brighton first in line surely?
Man actually pulled out the 5 whys😂😂😂
I agree with Rashford being very overrated and people wanting him to be sold but not ETH out. He is working under a horrendous management which likes to micromanage everything. So, most of the things where we think ETH has power to make a decision is actually just an illusion because the owners have always made the manager the face of the club to hide themselves and scapegoat him when the conditions worsen. We need to keep ETH and hope the ownership changes soon and believe me as soon as these leach owners are gone our fortunes will quickly turn for the better.
When the whole defence is fit Maguire wont play,but he will earn more than those playing.
Rashford according to United's and English PR teams is world class. Yet almost Every big team has a player better than him in that position
Stop spitting nonsense for likes.hes the most trending player for facing heavy criticism,get your facts mate.
It was so obvious last year what Rashford was upto when he or his PR flirted wirh PSG to bump up his new deal. And he played well for a bit as a jobbing striker because he doesn't assist whoever is up front.
And then there's the hubris of club management not wanting an academy boy to walk for nothing. So now golden boy is on crazy money and has reverted to mean.
My eyes and many other eyes don't lie, bench RASHFORD
Rashford out is such bs. Who in the squad can score 20 goals a season ? No one. Take the two goals he scored in the last two games at the Emirates. Who can score those in the squad ? No one. The heat he's getting here is absolutely ludicrous.
the question is, can he do it again this season? and is it good if he can score 20+goals but your striker doesnt score
Rashford may be not at his best yet, but it's early in the season. Ronaldo at Man Utd in 07/08 got a red card against Portsmouth and didn’t score until mid September 2007 where he focused solely on his performances, scoring a hat-trick against Newcastle in January 2008 and within 4 months, became PL top scorer. So in 07-08, Ronaldo went from getting a straight red card in August to becoming PL top scorer. Why? Because of a manager who is ruthless. I as an Arsenal fan can see the same thing with Rashford as I see ten Hag as a ruthless manager as well! Rashford will more likely put up Haaland's numbers!
Rashford has one good season every 5 years
@Ryo Kitagawa you have no way of knowing if that wd be the case
What ETH wanted in the transfer window & what he got are two very different things.
Terry you're so right and wrong at the same time. No one is saying Glazers are right, the correct statement is that they are wrong but not for everything. If you gave the signings that the manager want and they fail then it's on the manager. Eth only wants players that he has played with him previously, it shows that he is out of his depths
As a rival i would take Rashford always rated him imagine if he was managed properly as for Ten Haag 1st he needs media training 2nd bringing in Anthony with previous allegations unacceptable and picking him after he got a doctor out to a hotel after another domestic unacceptable and throwing Sancho under the bus publicly knowing he has mental health issues DISGRACEFUL
Even bruno form drops compared to when he arrived.
At least Rashford is getting some criticism on social media as he is exempt from criticism in the mainstream media
Loving the 5 why’s❤️
Rashford would soon learn to pass the ball if his contract had depended on it
Hi Terry I am not a Man U fan in fact I support Liverpool and I agree with many of the comments by your own fans that the Glazers are not the only ones reaponsible for your woes at least not on the pitch. They have spent every summer way more money than my clubs owners FSG. It could be stated that FSG have invested heavily in rebuilding Anfield whilst OT is rotting away but when it comes to investments in the squad the Glazers win hands down. We were more or less in the same boat until Klopp was brought in and Man U have not had a top top manager since Fergie retired and there lies the root of all your on field problems. Youve spent £200m this summer in the players that Ten Hagg wanted. What I dont understand is why the uproar after losing to Brighton because at this moment in time they are a way better team than United. Your issues go back all the way post Ferguson.
You can only blame the glazers for the overall business side of things. But when it comes to the players it’s on the manager he wants them he plays them. The team on paper is strong glazers allowed top class players to come in. And yes the glazers hired the manager but I didn’t see any united fans complaining.
Ten Hag showed he was a poor manager at Anfield 3 nil down an he failed to pack the defence it finished 7 nil and 6 of the goals came in the second half I knew then he was not a top manager , he only got into the top 4 because Liverpool and Chelsea had shocking seasons especially Liverpool. Rashford doesn't get near the City team or Liverpool he is too selfish , Bruno is never a captain spends all his time whining an is petulant just not the right stuff .
He has to go . We need to act now to get De Zerbi .
Arteta survived his time in the valley, if utd is smart they will back the manager.
Rashford is a top player but his left wing position as the main goalscorer has a negative impact on the tesm, if he came off the left wing like thierry henri he would occupy more defender and arc his runs towards the centre then utd Pellistri and Garnacho would ideal. A top manager would've shunned utd unless he had funds and control of the who comes in and who goes out because if he was in control and he knows what is what then Anthony Martial Should've been long gone. Melacia is a strong defender but his Distribution is poor coming forward. Luke shaw is not quick at left back but his Distribution is exellent . At left centre he is outstanding move him to centre back pervis estupian from Brighton who was scouted for utd by Antonio Valencia for 5million and utd didnt take the offer because they had no vision. The club make so many mistakes they are on the road to going bust with all the players on huge salaries doing nothing on the pitch . If Jassim buys the club we may see a better side of ETH but the owners will have sell or sack him but im not too sure if sacking him will change anything.
The scotland team was crossing the ball into the box to harry maguire hoping that he could get a brace of own goals!
A change of ownership is just what utd need .
@terry when I was a manager if a blue chip company the 5 whys was explained to us in training.. and it works. But its got floor's to it.. it only works for the question you ask it..
Try doing it again by like say ??? Why did manchester United lose to Brighton.
It will change big time.
Love your work bro:-)
Rashford PR has really tricked people into believing he is the best thing to have happened to United since 2013.
What are we talking about here on Rashford. He is better than most PL attackers, so the Manager has to find a way to use his skillsets.
The biggest problem is from the managerial aspect, has bn twinkling down to the last person at the club, over time, its gotten to an advanced stage, almost beyond recovery, affected the players as well, no passion amongst the players, the signings are so not up to par..!! 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
When a club no longer has an identity how are you ever going to find a manager to fit that identity?
Some are not playing and getting more than some who are playing,like Maguire.
Never heard of the 5 why’s method, it reminds me of Abstraction Laddering
Against brighton rashy was mist likely mist taje in buggest chances issue is he doesnt liik for assistd just goals he can change that, just needs to value assistd
we wanted eric because he was said to be a good coach and had strict discipline with a good style of play, so you would think with rashford he as a talent to mould into atop draw player BUT to see rashford being so wasteful and not getting his head up when better options are available really is surprising
It’s not mate how is it surprising? He has been like that most of his career at United we should have sold him this summer
It doesnt matter who United signs until the culture of the club is corrected.
A big club like man u should have a great coach. The board has no ambition. We were in need of a coach while pep and klopp were available but we didn't go for them. Now we are struggling with poor coaches who bring poor players
Has arteta done that much better..trophy wise! (Rhetorical)
What I got from this is that glazers don’t want the club to be successful because they don’t want to stop making money, I swear success makes money, make it make sense terry glazers didn’t attack Antony’s mrs glazers didn’t out Sanchez after the arsenal defeat and the glazers didn’t pick the formation or the players against Brighton your manager has major flaws , he looked good on paper he can still come good but his gonna have to take this smoke and the united fans too for now .
United hating on rashford 😂😂😂 HE IS YOUR SAVIOUR- YOU LOT WITH YOUR SHORT TERM MEMORIES
Haters gonna hate, didn’t you know?
Oh he’s their savior alright,what didn’t Ronaldo do for those numbheads? Even coming back two days after losing his son to score a goal for them they still managed to somehow hate on him and forced his hands to leave…my man had to score hat tricks sometimes to bail United off maguire’s sharing heart…but they turned on him real quick because they couldn’t secure top 4 spot when in reality,Ronaldo and De gea were the only two United players who were trying..if Ronaldo was in that United team that secured top 4 last season they would’ve been fighting for the pl trophy but nooo…ten bald scapegoated him and brought in workhorse,then martial used his usual purple patch to blind them for a few games and they started saying they don’t need Ronaldo ….
You are Rashford FC, why is he getting stick?😂
@Do Betta I support Arsenal lol
I support Ten Hag for sure, but I do believe Rashfood is so overrated and doesn't offer us anything unless we are gonna focus on counter attacking low block football with him and Bruno the main focus of the team, he cant play for a side that wants to control
terry have you watched rant's video [live stream] on ten hag? Please can you cover what rants is saying?
Ten hag is far from the worst manger of all time since Ferguson he is trying to evolve the team which is a needed move to take in the premier league because teams will watch our tactics and learn how to shut them down we are going through growing pains that’s all it’s not the end of the world don’t let content creators spin this narrative and profit off of our clubs down fall and rashford does not need to go this is his second game with hojlund and rashford has always been the main man he is not used to having a striker that is somewhat competent and if you watch those highlights it will show rashford actually attempting to pass to hojlund in front of goal.
After Bayern Munich they'll say the whole team out
The manager has to take some blame Terry, yes the main problem is the glazers but u also need the right managerial appointment. Look at spurs for example
Sir Rashford MBE OBE DFC and Bar is politically untouchable, until we accept that and demand he's treated on merit as every other player is the sooner we can see him for what he is and move him on and let this club breathe, until politics is dethroned as the deciding factor we'll stay in this rut
Question ,, what do you now think Ronaldos comments, and behaviour before he left? Surely he was right to expose the failings at the club ?
rashford plays well everytime hes looking a new contract then soon as he gets 1 he plays terrible
If the team is not going forward, why should there be a scapegoat? People called out names of players because they don't perform
I'm an Arsenal fan so I don't watch United as close as a United fan does but I do watch most of their games and I'm bamboozled by this shit, Rashy has been Man United's best player maybe bar De Gea in the past decade. Why is he always the one that gets hate, he was the only threat against us until Hoijlund came on the pitch and he was still getting hate. It's not like he's a prick of a person or anything either, he's a good bloke. So make this make sense
Im an arsenal fan and i personally think garnacho and hojlund are your main 2 . Garnacho needs a run in the team for confidence hes unselfish the only way hes gonna play well is by dropping rashford the same as what we done with martinelli gave him a full run in the team why aren't other teams looking at our model and trying to replicate it? Baffling really.
Come back Ole,all is forgiven.
What happened to" we need to give ten hag time"
Give Rashford a break, the problem Man Utd has right now isn't in their attacking side.
I thought the problem was Lukaku... then Pogba.. now Rashford. Sigh.