Hornby Steam Generator 'Prince Of Wales' P2 Full REVIEW & MODEL RAILWAY RUN TXS Fitted Sound | ml32
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In a nutshell short…
• Hornby Steam Generator...
IMPORTANT ESSENTIALS & MYTH BUSTING ONCE LOCO IS CONNECTED TO YOUR GADGET SEE BELOW
This is an ‘out of the box, ready to run’ model.
Just add Drinking Tap Water. I always filter mine anyway but, this is not necessary at all and clarified by Hornby.
Procedure as follows…
Fit the single holed, push in chimney supplied, when running with the smoke generator by removing the double chimney.
MYTH DISPELLED! - The Smoke Generator does not need filtered or distilled water. Just like modern household irons no longer require this, neither does the Hornby Smoke Generator. Yes, you could use but, it is not necessary or required. It just needs Tap Water.
This is a brand new Patented Hornby Ultrasonic Device.
No heat is generated.
Add up to 5ml using the pipette provided, away from the track or layout. Angle pipette at 30 degrees into the inlet hole, located by simply removing the Magnetic Smokebox door. You Do Not fill through the chimney stack.
Let the wick in the patented device soak and prime for a couple of minutes. It will then begin releasing steam. This is done by turning your sound function on via the HM|DCC connected app.
A little more water (approx 1.5 ml) can be added after this soak time if required but, do not overfill obviously.
You know the Steam Generator function is on if, the Sound is activated. Be patient. PS. You can't turn the Steam on or off any other way.
Turning the sound off stops the smoke & running with the sound on gives a full boiler a good 30mins of this superb smoke effect. It smokes more at lower speeds and as it would in real life. Obviously more starts & shunts will use more water, coasting less so times will alter slightly.
DO NOT add anything else apart from drinking tap water. NO OILS, NO PAINTS, NO DYE. These would clog it up.
Play around with Safety Valve & Injector sounds etc for added effects. Great fun!
It is not a TRS fitted unit that uses deionised water and is bought through them and fitted by them to your locomotive/s.
The Hornby steam generator only blows steam out of the chimney and not from below, as if coming from the pistons.
Again…
Tap water will Not clog up the system.
This is a new, patented, ultrasonic device. It does not need to heat up, as I initially presumed in the video & have now added subtitles 16:10 & 17:00.
The Water filler inlet port is located by simply removing the tilted back, twin magnetic smokebox door front away from the locomotive, which snap locates back into place as you offer it back up. It's very well made & well designed.
I added approx 4 x 1ml gentle water squirts so, a total load of approx 4ml in the making of this video.
PS As the water is used up the smoke will slowly begin to 'Peter Out' & you'll see this on my last Cab Camera shots filmed from behind but, above the 'Prince Of Wales' looking down the boiler & ahead down the track as it runs from Lofthouse. These shots can be seen & alternate with the looking back at the Loco Cab Cam' view on the first Steam run from Lofthouse Station toward the 'Lovers Leap' Suspension Bridge. In reality these shots were filmed at the end of the 4th run.
Make sure your Locomotive has no water left inside before carrying out any maintenance work & use the pipette to suck out any water residue left in the boiler via the filling port .
Always read the Instructions beforehand.
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00:00 Intro
01:23 Gimmick or Gamechanger?
03:24 Compared To Cock O The North & Weigh In
06:20 Preparing For Steam
10:38 Figures
11:08 Turntable & History (Now & Then)
12:21 Link & Steam Up Process
16:29 Steaming & Lofthouse Cab Cam Run
20:42 Verdict - Jak na to + styl
Brilliant video. My wife has ordered me the Black Five for my 70th last June ,,,cannot wait .....
That has the lit 🔥 lamp 🪔 codes too. This is gonna be a game changer for Hornby 👍
Can you run this loco just with the sound file on without the steam generator I was told you have to run it all the time with the steam generator.What happens when the steam generator runs out of water is there a cut off to stop the loco running with the steam generator on any idea thanks in advance ????
@@andrewmeah3082 It runs with or without steam or water in it. The sound and loco operates just as any one of the others with the TXS sound decoders in. All good. As the water is used up the steam will Peter out that’s all and that’s how you want it before longer storage or maintenance work 👍
@@modeloco
Thanks for your informative answers
I also have a black 5 from hornby but there’s something stuck in its wheel making it go normel and then stops and keeps doing that
Hi Andy, Yet another great Hornby steam locomotive review and what fun to see it steaming like the real machine ! Amazing ! Hornby took a big step forward with the latest technologies incorporated and it looks like the quality is high level. Another game changer indeed ! Thanks for sharing your enthousiasme Andy. All the best, Filip
Thanks 🙏 Filip. Agree 👍 with all you say here. Great getting to know you and receiving your heart ❤️ warming support once more is a real unexpected bonus too. Highest Regards, Andy.
Very cool. First review I’ve seen so exciting. Thanks. Another game changer 😜
Yep 👍
Another great video love your enthusiasm and excitement keep on doing what you are doing cheers
Hi Ian, Thanks as always to you too!! If I can capture things on the first take it’s usually best 😂 and this is a real exciting innovation especially running on just water. No oils, residue or specially formulated drops. It looks fantastic in reality as it chuffs. It’s great to help put the message out in my own way. Your comments are always felt ❤️
Very much enjoyed your video Andy! I’m very pleased with mine and it runs well on my 8x15 layout! 👏👏👏
That’s a good run 🏃 It wasn’t until I saw that first puff of steam that I actually thought WOW but, sure you could tell I was excited beforehand too but, then I was just really taken a back.
Did you notice any slight squeak on running or stalling on certain turnouts?
Super video. Loved seeing the steam in action. Lovely locomotive. Enjoyed watching. Thanks for showing. Regards Paul.
Paul, absolute pleasure - A Belter!
Fascinating thanks. Mine arrives next week in Australia!
Brilliant & Thank YOU too. Enjoy!!!
Great video. This steam loco looks really nice model. I really enjoyed watching this video. Thanks for sharing. Cheers Josh
Thanks Josh, Great subject matter that seemed to find me perfectly placed to tackle at this time. Thanks for your interest and enthusiasm, Andy 👍
Great review, well done Hornby!
Thank you 🙏 and yes 👍 Starting to get a good idea why ones doing the bashing are ignoring completely the superb innovative ideas to be celebrated
Chuffing good review. 🚂👍According to the news my steaming Black 5 is being attacked in the Red sea!
Thank You! Them pesky pirates on the high seas must have mine too 😂
I pre-ordered the black 5 one through Rails of Sheffield last year. Cannot wait to receive it later this year!
Yes, that’ll be another Belter with lit lamp codes 👍
Love mine. Works well. Just remember it takes a few minutes for steam to start, thought mine wad faulty at first. Plus I hope Hornby keep spare chimneys and boiler door because easy to lose.
Yes and thanks Trevor 👍
looks really good
Hi, I’m quite impressed with the steam generator, never really had an issue with their steam locomotives, their diesel are another story, I wish the Grey livery W1 hush hush had this feature and a glowing fire box then I would consider putting it on my birthday girts list, realistic steaming on this model, thanks for sharing.
Hello again, one of the early birds on this channel and appreciate your comments again 👍
I have the Black 5 on order so your video has confirmed I made a good choice as Hornby has seemed to have cracked the steam function.
Cheers Kev
Hi Kev, The Black 5 I’m sure is the one that caught everyone’s eyes. The planned Flying Scotsman with steam generator had lit lamps originally too, if I’m not mistaken. It’s quite unbelievable in a way and a remarkable patented idea 💡
Hi mate
I hope you are well
Yes it a fantastic model top work by hornby
Am still dcc ready
Thank you for the review
Keep safe ARP
Yes, all 77 here and super stuff 👍
Great video
Thank you big fella big heart ❤️
Thank god I already ordered one, otherwise i would have after your review!
They may well be sold out on Hornby’s site by, latest, end of next week sometime I’d say. It was hard to contain my excitement I must say 😃
Cassey Jones, that takes me back a few decades to his Canonball Express and what was the other one... Petticoat Junction :) Expecting my P2 to arrive today, your great video is definitely wetting my appetite :) I thought it might want distilled water though ?
Always liked the tune and good luck with your new arrival today. Evidently Hornby did all their trials using Tap water which is fine though I do always filter mine anyway before drinking so, naturally used that 👍
I like this ole chap! Love the engine too!
Good👍🤔😂
Hi Andy great video my one came yesterday had on the track it steamed but as good as I thought it would I have got a out doors garden railway oo gauge I had a chat with Phil Morley this morning from hornby he said it’s got to were it in I used hornby live stream water he tape ok perhaps I did not run it long enough dy the way Daws Heath garden railway oo gauge thank you again for a great review. Kind regards Paul
Hi again Paul, Mine took 5mins to start chuffing on Yorkshire’s best water 💦 but, do filter mine as it’s so heavily chlorinated on certain days. Dont use as much bleach in the looby 🚽 😂
I saw your garden run and it looked okay to me but, this being outdoors I’m sure the unscaled wind may have an effect on the look on blustery days and that could be your gripe here. Have you had more success indoors?
@@modeloco Hi Andy I think what happened is I did not run it in enough when I run again I will run it in Properly
brilliant demo.i would like the duchess of sutherland with steam generater.Hornby loco's have in their pipeline.i think it works like a nebuliser ,for asthma etc .great feature just need the right loco
🙏 Thank you Richard. I do know it’s a new, Hornby patented ultrasonic device and it does look superb in action. No heat required and just tap water 💧 required. Quite incredible.
Great video, thanks Andy, it looks amazing! I LOVE the steam generation! I wonder if it might shorten the warm-up time for the steam if you pre-warmed the water just a little?
🙏 Thank You! Do you know I like the process. It’s like preparing a real Steam Loco but, yeah I’m sure it would 👍
This system does not use heat to generate steam so, room temperature is fine. I’ve added additional info to description and subtitled video where I mentioned warm up as that was my initial reaction/notion at the time, when it was initializing itself on first run. PS Don’t add oils, etc, not that you would I’m sure 👍
@@modeloco Aah I see so it's possibly using an "ultrasonic vibration" method such as is used in diffusers perhaps, to produce the steam I mean. Yeah I guess that would make more sense (and last longer)! And no I wouldn't use oils in it don't worry, but thanks for the heads-up! ;)
@@sonarfreq yep 👍 you got it 🙏
Totaly agree with yo you a lovely .model that generator works well. I have one and love it. Awaiting tbe Black 5 that shoukd be another crscker.Great video.🚂👍😁
Thanking you Richard. It’s definitely a real addition to the hobby all round 🙏
Yes tons better than the oil units.Wonder what else will have the units in?
@@richardswiderski4985 Black 5 as you said and a present day livery, Flying Scotsman so far but, it’s gonna be big I’d say Richard. Don’t you think?
I do although my good lady may think orherwise🤣
@@modelocoa Fourth one was announced as well, 2002 Earl Marischal.
that is magnificent
My thoughts entirely 👍🙏
Timely. I just ran in lord president on my layout last weekend
Have you seen my Thane Of Fife P2 review? 🙏
I agree with everything you said. Mine looks and sounds good, but it doesn’t do well on curved point. But that’s probably my bad track laying.
Interesting yes it’s one turnout in particular and do wonder if it’s slightly unlevel. Also the mainline that it’s on, uses the curved throw side as its main route. Have you noticed a slight squeak at all. Have heard this on another you tube video filming it in action?
Brilliant video, just one question what system are you using to store your locos?
I use the HMDCC app. Also a Digitrax system which is Loconet and a Hornby Elite which is Xpressnet so can use the Legacy Dongle with Club adapters which is and are brilliant too. Check out my channel videos on these and how to connect older non Bluetooth decoders to run with the app 👍
Hi Andy, looks like you were having lots of fun with it in the video!
Quick question: I'm assuming it needs distilled water to prevent it furring up?
Might depend on location and water type but, I’m just using charcoal filtered tap water 💧 and not heard anything on the grapevine and nothing stood out in the instructions. Good Question dunno at present 👍
I don't think it matters as it is more water vapour then actual steam.
Latest is just filter your water as I do. This is a micro water atomizer and so there is a potential for contamination or that being thrown out with the steam 👍
Just got mine today not tried it yet but looks good
It’s a winner Stephen 👍
That looks awesome. I wonder if you could mix in a little water-based black ink or paint. Automatic light weathering of layout and stock, with a more realistic chimney effect too.
I wouldn’t recommend or attempt that at all. I’m pretty sure that would clog up the valve that chuffs the vapour in sync. Thanks for the reaction though and yes, awesome 👍💧
No never mix anything with the water . It will ruin the absorbent wick which supply,s water to the atomiser.
Thank you Roger . No don’t add anything!
Wow no need for smoke fluid? Wish manufacturers in Europe and America will follow Hornby's example. Don't understand why some people keep taking the mick out of Hornby, they are doing very well even by international standards.
The misinformation and complete lack of TT:120 content being the major reasons Modeloco began in earnest. 👍
Already been done on some continental ho models. Hornby are late again
@@rogerwindsor2130 "been done on *some*", so no they're not late.
All good things are worth waiting for and this is magnificent 👍
- already been done in Europe, I'd put money on it being dropped like Hornby usually do - develop something half-cocked & instead of building on it drop it - just look at Zero One. Bet the same will happen with their Bluetooth Decoders.
Hi Andy. This a great review from a convinced returner. My question is, it may be daft, but do you recommend using de-ionised water? We live in a hard dodgy water area and use a filtered for the kettle. Thanks 👍
I do filter mine but, Hornby Technical have again stated today. Tap water is fine for their patented design. They said it’s fine if you want to filter it but, not necessary. They also said that distilled is okay but, not at all necessary. We didn’t discuss de-ionised so, in this case I’d say, best just check with Hornby👍
PS 🙏
That makes sense and thanks for the quick response! 😃
@@modeloco "Patented design"? Didn't they just copy the idea from TRS trains? That would be a question to ask Hornby. They'll probably turn red.
Great video, got to have one of these. Question, will this loco run from any DCC system without any sort of downloads or Bluetooth? (I have a Lenz System) Cheers and thanks, for a great video.
It comes fitted with a Bluetooth sound decoder but, once set up and addressed via the free HMDCC app, don’t see why not. You’ll need a compatible gadget of course. The app then toggles between Bluetooth and usual DCC control. As it’s a brand new product best just treble check with Hornby but, yeah there should be no issues. Hope that helps👍
Ps I’ve videos on how to do this. Anything else just shout 🙏
PPS Just thought, have a digitrax loconet controller so will double check asap. Is the lenz a loconet system too ?
Hi, Not sure about loconet. P.S. I'm Weswt Yorkshire lad too.@@modeloco
5 minutes to shake bubbles out of water to get it to atomization transducer.
That is Not correct. It takes a few minutes for the priming of the wick in the patented ultrasonic device 🙏
Stupid question and sorry if I missed it, but would the steam generator still work on a dc layout? Or does it need to be DCC?
It is fitted with a TXS Bluetooth DCC Sound decoder so yes, it’s DCC only but, no question is ever stupid in my book 📕 . The sound on/off also turns the steam on or off. Would you now consider coming over to DCC?
@@modeloco probably yeah. it looks great and I loved the video!
@markwinsor2766 Any advice needed, when you do, I’m here. Would say get yourself an iPad with larger screen like mine if you can. Sure you could pick an old one up. Mines a gen1 and is fine👍
How long does it take for the steam to come out, as I have just received mine today and I put 4mls in and still no steam after having it running for 20 mins.
Once connected to the HM|DCC app. The sound has to be switched on to start the smoke, once filled, using only the pipette of course & as stipulated!
Thanks for your help, the problem was that I took it out of the box filled it up and just used my Gaugemaster DCC controller the sound worked but no steam. Once I linked it up with my App on the phone and turned on the sound via app it worked.
It now also works with my Gaugemaster controller.
Thanks for your help it’s very much appreciated.
@@russelljennings9319 pleasure 👍
I am a pessimist - several of these steam generator locos might cause mould and mildew.
Wonder if boiling a kettle, using the shower and running a bath 🛀 will cause that too or… maybe these aren’t really the issue 🤔
@@modeloco they have materials suitable for water.
@@PlatformONE This device runs cold it’s not actual steam, just resembles it by altering the molecular structure so, more like a fine mist
Must have been live steam years ago, friend said her son had one, talking 25 years plus.
Surprised there aren't vape based smoke generators.
Yes, best of both worlds here now. No mess, no heat and using only tap water 💦 Winner 🏆
That guitar in the background says a lot about this video source ...
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Maybe this old video I posted will help you have less disdain toward me personally but, don’t underestimate musicians, of which I am too. In the video you may want to check out the self designed and produced vertical fiddle yard on another video czcams.com/video/ANi6nxVNw1U/video.htmlfeature=shared
Maybe propylene glycol, that would make more “smoke “
It makes plenty of smoke. No you wouldn’t use anything else just water it’s superb 👌
@@modelocobut there’s hardly any steam being generated, maybe vegetable glycerin, then you’d get your one of five a day as is goes past 👍
@@samspade975 It makes most at low speed and when pulling off. You’ll have to stick your usual 5 a days 😂 I’m afraid. Strict diet of tap water only I’m afraid for the Prince 🤴
lol 😂
I have 3 of steam locomotives that steam already before hornby released it
The older Oil generators I’d presume as these are new patented designs by Hornby?
@modeloco nope they use deionised water
@@modeloco my black 5 has piston leak aswell
@@Modelrealtrainsplanes The ones fitted to these new Hornby models are a new Hornby patented design that use tap water so, will differ to the ones you’re using. This might be where the confusion has crept in
@@Modelrealtrainsplanes A piston leak. Are you talking about actual ‘Live Steam’ here?
The Hornby steam generator is not boiling or heating up the water in any way
Strange but obvious when you think about it, that "steam" can't actualy be scaled.
Made me think of how they created realistic waves on Thunderbirds by slowing down the footage to make water react in the way we see it
Great video BUT the "most powerful passenger locomotive ever made" by Hornby will only pull 4 coaches without slipping...really! Lots of technology but rubbish at a basic the model railway requirement of pulling a train! Come on Hornby that's just not good enough.
Thank you 🙏 Up an incline and round bends that are unrealistically steep and acute but, we compromise to enjoy the scale that is compromised too to fit on HO track and all into the limited spaces we find ourselves in where imagination could fill a football pitch if, allowed. That same imagination can also make a cardboard box become a tank as a child and allow me to enjoy those compromises made today. C’mon Robert you can enjoy this amazing innovation too in the same way surely 👍
Could you add a bit of oil to the water to get a more realistic smoke
Why… It looks fine as it is? Plus water is perfect. Non toxic, etc. I’d definitely say NO it will clog it up but, ask Hornby. I’d say no
No never it will ruin the absorbent wick and atomiser
@@rogerwindsor2130 it has a wick ?
Water will rust inside the model.
Rust? This is a brand new Hornby patented design and I’m pretty sure it won’t be using corrosive material like mild steel
It's not touching metal, but in a plastic container. There are no metal parts that can rust. The mouth of the ultrasone is aluminium, if I look at the ultrasone component I have. Btw, water can't rust. 😉
Got no pulling power
Not as much as I thought no. These were my findings from other locos on the same incline yes 👍
Gimmick yes....I cannot see the point of a massive loco puffing out steam no matter how good the steam is, if it cannot pull more than Thomas the Tank Engine. I guess if your priority is steam rather than realistic load it will be fine.....However, your video is a great watch as far as content is concerned. The only constructive criticism I have is the video quality is poor. 1080HD is way past it as far as small detailed items are concerned. You would do a lot better if you shot all in high quality 4K.....cheers.
Thank you ever so much Paul. I did film it all in 4K but, see my other latest videos. For some unbeknown reason Apple, wouldn’t let me render in 4k for this one. Maybe my cam settings slipped for some bits, not really sure. That was disappointing but, found it looked okay tbh on iPhone, iPad and my 54” screen that really shows that sort of thing up. Maybe check your playback settings too as a slow internet can render down quality 🙏
It only struggled on the incline which, at steepest point is 2.35 degrees with over 4 coaches but, the compromise made probably by having a steam generator fitted is definitely worth it for me and don’t have massive lengths of station planned so, fits in well 👍
You probably have the same as me a 14 Pro Max. Sadly you can never get the quality with a phone no matter what the blurb says. In my opinions phones are a waste of time for high quality videos no matter what apple say. What you need to remember is a lot of people watch Model railway stuff on their large smart tv. When you watch phone videos on this it is wanting big time. I enjoyed the editing and the camera videoing the loco in steam from the front. I did look into doing this, however the price of the GoPro to do this in any kind of quality is just not viable in my view. I will have a look at a later video right now
@@modeloco
@@PaulBriden Got a 15 and yes it’s probably the cab camera setting that slipped back from 4K in all the tasks being done at once. I’ve studied cameras no end and most suffer from cropping in 4K, then Apple doesn’t always like the formats they use with most being more windows friendly like Sony and on top audio issues being always slightly out of sync. Finally the bigger Panasonic ones that seem great are still quite expensive big units to get into more awkward spots
It takes a lot of skill in editing to get the sync right. That is the bigger skill. I use Panasonic cameras. You are correct there is only a certain you can crop and then you get too much noise in a video. Hence why in this video I am using two cameras, I try to zoom on the target post edit it looks tripe. I can link the cameras using the phone as a control unit or have one camera as master and the other a slave. The issue is unless you have excellent internet their is lag, not an issue indoors, however, the problem is the quality is 1080HD. You can see the camera just below the target. The trick is not to shoot the camera. czcams.com/video/GHy93AT_KpI/video.htmlsi=EN7wTrnZoZzmLzU4@@modeloco
Hope you used distilled water.
Are you a bot by any chance?
@@modeloco Not even a bionic limb!
Okay. Do state I use only use/drink filtered water in the home, as my supply apart from being heavily chlorinated on certain days may carry contaminants but, why do you state distilled. Is it because of the fears regarding airborne contamination being blown into the atmosphere?
@@modeloco Because minerals will crystalise in the heater and wreck it. Distilled/Demineralised/Denatured water will not do that. I am absolutely shocked Hormby did not specify that.
@@eaglesfly5236 Hornby have done all their tests on tap water. Plus filtered tap water is best of both surely
I have always hated Casey Jones. A programme I never missed, I had a life to replace the rubbish with.
I only ever saw it twice too. Recording the theme was a sort of challenge set by a dear friend and bass player. Rather than pay for music, thought why not. If you can think of a better tune let me know. Mystery Train, Folsom Prison Blues but, it does have quite a few 🪭 🪭 🪭 🪭 🪭 s
Get this,, info. Do not ever mix oil with the water,, This is a water atomiser system, Oil will ruin it Also modeloco do some research ? The water and atomiser unit Do Not Need To Warm Up, There is no heat involved, It is a micro humidifier atomiser, You been told. I have fitted plenty of these in other types of model builds.
Hello Roger, Research completed. This is a Hornby patented ultrasonic device. No heat involved and have updated my initial thoughts in video accordingly. As I’ve maintained all along yes, Tap Drinking water only. This does not need distilled water either.
Hornby are just jumping on the band wagon and copying what TRS trains already do. Nothing original here and isn't as good as TRS trains version.
It would appear so in some respects. I’d not heard about TRS but, understand a lot more now. Hornby version is tap water and a patented new design but, no under blow steam which may suit some more. Out of box and very cost effective though with a big name behind it 🙏
@@modeloco the trs version also has working drain cocks and uses zimo DCC decoders for better synchronization.
@@wolvertoncentresidings5676 mmm?
I asked this when this system was first demonstrated and never got an answer. While it is a big improvement on the old smoke oil 'cigarette smoke' effect, has anyone given any thought to the effect of all that water vapor on all those decoders and delicate (expensive) electronics we use today?
Something tells me it’ll be fine 👍
About time UK steam outline models had close coupling between the engine & tender. I don't understand sprung buffers either as they don't touch others. Steam is still not convicing. Pulling power poor, sound poor (although the whistle was nice).
I’m loving it, the steam is far better than expected in my opinion and on all accounts it’s selling very well 👍 Like sprung buffers too tbh 🙏
@@modeloco- I'd rather have close loco/tender coupling than sprung buffers.
Guess my way of seeing it is, we can have both but, thanks for clarifying your feelings