Join up with Horses: What does it Mean in Horse Training
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2019
- What does joining with a horse or the term “join up” mean to you? How does it show up between you and your horse?
For me, joining with a horse, or asking a horse to join up with me means many positive words and actions, such as; demonstrating relationship, rapport, connection with another, communication and conversation, joining in mind, body and heart, the feeling of oneness, trust and mutual respect and love.
The definitions of “to join” are:
1. to put or bring together so as to form a unit
2. to connect
3. to put or bring into close association or relationship
4. to come into the company of
5. to associate oneself with
I demonstrate in this video, with one of my horses Zor, what joining together and asking for join up looks like when we are working in a round pen, walking together and having a conversation.
Chasing a horse around a round pen, with a lariat or lunge line, and until the horse runs out of steam, is not what I call a gentle, or compassionate, training practice. Unfortunately many horse trainers use the structure of a round pen along with the practice of “join up” to subdue, dominate and force a horse into submission.
If you would like to learn more or “how-to” develop this with your horse, please check out my online training academy for people and horses www.taoacademy-horse-training...
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One of the things that I find so sweet and funny is the way people kiss their animals. It seems so automatic, we just can't help ourselves. Smooch!
Horses are very intelligent creatures and clearly understand and trust when treated right.
I LOVE this. Horses don't lie, they are honest and they show their feelings about a person. I have learned a lot from you in working with and rehabilitating my hot little Arab who was a rescue. Relationship is one of the most important things if not the most important thing in working with a horse , especially one who has been traumatized. Most people/trainers don't get that. Kindness, love, and patience goes a long way to helping them.. Going slowly and learning to watch them and not push them too hard is also important. Thank you for helping to re-educate us.
Hi Mary and Welcome! Thank you! I'm so glad my method is working for you and your little Arab❤
I love more. And I could sit here and watch your videos all day long
You are such an inspiration, Caroline. Thank you!
Hi Beth! Thank you!
Thank you Caroline! Great video! Yes you inspire me too !!!
Hi Alejandra and Welcome! Yay!
I found your page. I have a learn. I purchase a one year old bucket list wanted to say thank u and simple
How you call Lovey Love Bug ❤️🐞 its so sweet, and it reminded me of the old tv show.
Your place makes me a little homesick for my home state, and then I think of the heat and change my mind. Love these videos!
Hi Cassie and Welcome! Awesome to hear and yes, it gets hot here in the Summer! I'll take it over the bitter cold, numbing cold though!
Thank you for your videos!! I am enjoying all this information and learning that I am gaining from you, so I can help my sweet Sundance the correct way, and be what he needs me to be. To join up with my horses 🐴. thank you thank you!! 🙏🏻🐴🙌🙏🏻
Hi Vargas and Welcome! I have a Sundance too! Great to hear how well the videos are working!
Looks like family to me💝 I only have three, but two newly geldings 3, and 4, and my precious 9 yr old gelding who came to me almost three years ago, and was just worked, and had very little bond with a healthy connection to a person. Love your videos. Always brings me back to the center of why we really are gifted with these creatures. You have been good for me because I am not seasoned and finished per say, but starting on the ground is my favorite, because I can🤍🥰. I find my confidence starts there. Being on the ground, and experiencing a connection with a love between our horses, and us as humans, is the most incredible experience ever, specially for people like me who have struggled in life with foundational issues. Putting things into perspective on the ground, really puts things into perspective in your seat on them.💘 They seem to never give up on sincere love, and respect. Grateful for great technic, and safety and love. Bless you.
Nicely done!
beautiful union. Beautiful approach and energy TY, bless and a joy to watch
Hi Vicki! Thank you and blessings to you too!
Ya know what, I have always loved horses and I have watched so many trainers beat them to do what they want and I've always thought no there's got to be another way.
Can’t wait to get my Shawnee a pasture buddy. She sees other horses but can’t touch them where she stays. Working on saving for her buddy. Love watching this. Thanks so very much
Great Video! Thanks For making this one. I've learned a lot from Your videos, Thanks for being a Awesome Teacher!
Thanks V Vogt! Grea to hear!
First time watching your video....did appreciate it and WILL be joining you more often!!
Hi Mary and Welcome! Great to hear!
Really nice........I can connect quite well with my horse here bu5 I lose him when I want to take him for a wee ride down the road......I lose him as soon as he sees the saddle. He is my neighbour kid horse but has had lots of different kids and inexperienced grown up riders on him......so I think he has cinching issues from incorrect cinching. He is awesome for haltering, connecting in the pasture.....he understands everything I say, and he likes me.... And if he misbehaves while I saddle him up, the owner says to yell and hit him....well, I don’t do that. I talk to him, but it’s not always working. I try to go really slow and respect his needs but really, i know he doesn’t want to saddle up. Yet once I am in the saddle he gets quite happy. I have no round pen here, no sand arena...just some simple fencing and natural treed trails and gravel road.
Really love this channel
Thank You Deya, if you would like to learn more about Caroline and her amazing method, please join us Wednesdays at 12pm EST on our Facebook page.
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Sabrina
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My now 3 yr old ,of five months arrived shut down and tense .At the same time he seemed worried about doing something wrong. He realized he could do something wrong with me cos I wasn't going to rebuke him. Anyway i turned him out and just visited him ,and asked him nothing. When I go to see him he is stuck to me like glue wearing his googoo eyes and having a conversation with me . Different horse with a ways to go yet. I have always been told I am too soft and just lucky to have such a good horse. They were not even the same horse. Thank you for making it ok to be who I am with my horse .
Hi Andrea and Welcome. Thank You for sharing such a beautiful moment with us. If you don't mind, would you share this on our Tao of Horsemanship FB page? facebook.com/TaoofHorsemanship
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Sabrina
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Thanks for the update on him. My 17hh friesian is massively spooky. I’ve had him since he was 3 and backed him mostly by myself. He was fine but seems to have got worse over time. I won’t ride him currently due to my herniated disc. Just groundwork, focus and relaxation etc. He is a dangerous horse currently. To be honest, I don’t think he will be ready for riding for a couple of years. Very late maturing. He just has zero confidence in himself. It’s gonna take a loooooong time 😅
I have watched sooooo many trainers deciding which one makes more sense. Your approach makes way more sense. Thanks for showing us your work! THE FRUITS of the labor so to speak! That speaks loud. Can’t wait to join your master classes. I would love to know what you also think of Buck Brennaman. He seems really good. I still am not sure about his approach of roping the legs and controlling the legs like he does. I think your approach is more gentle and relationship building with your horses.
Hi Sarah and Welcome! Thank you so much! Great to hear how well my approach, method, resonates with you. I don't believe in tying, roping, a horses legs. It's the old cowboy mentality where they use dominance and force to make the horse submit. They don't want to take the time to earn the horse's trust, go slow, be patient and most of all compassionate. Buck and the rest of them can call it, color it, any way they want but it is what it is, force, dominance and cruelty.
I love this ... so true about the relationship ... I have a question that I hope you can help me with ... I acquired a 16hh TWH just 6 months ago. I could tell he had trust issues so I spent time building a good rapport with him. He is super sweet, joins up easily ... even wants to help me when I'm cleaning the corral :) ... but he is super spooky with the farrier. He does eventually settle down, but I can see the stress in his eyes. I decided to try a female farrier and altho' he was still spooky, he settled down much quicker ... but ... if he moves and she yells at him, he "parks out" ... she thinks he's just being defiant, but I know that it's a form of submission like "please don't hit me"
I have since learned that he has been whipped when he didn't listen. Picasso is 11 yrs old ... I've been told that he's never had a problem with the farrier before, but he's been moved around so much in the last two years that I wonder if he had a bad farrier experience ... I do know that last year he had a roofing nail in his hoof, maybe that soured him towards farriers?
Anyway, my question is "what can I do to help him overcome his fear of farriers?" ,,,,,,,, he's come so far, doing so much better since he realized that he finally has his own human (I generally spend quite a bit of time with him just bonding) he doesn't really spook easily, but he is super sensitive.
Hi Wayshower and Welcome! Congrats on your new horse and awesome relationship! Having a strong bond is the glue that binds our horses, however, it isn't strong enough to handle deep trauma experiences such as what you are describing with your TWH and the farrier. That's because the trauma is too powerful and every time your horse sees a farrier and their equipment, he is reminded of the trauma. This is called a trigger and/or PTSD. What you need is the skills to help him get over his fear and become comfortable with the thing he fears so much. Part of my expertise with horses is rehabilitation. I know a lot about trauma, the many layers of it and how to help horses work through it and replace it with positive associations. The key word, and first part, is "work through it." So, changing farriers or petting him and telling him it's going to be ok when he believes otherwise isn't going to change things long term. Proving to him that he will be ok is where we need to go and this happens when we help him work through it. Should you wan to learn more, I offer step-by-step instructional videos on my online training academy for horses and people. Please go to my Tao of Horsemanship MasterMembership Program to sign up for the new launch and release www.taoofhorsemanship.com/education. This program will soon be available online. Please click here to view the outline of what the 3 main courses, out of 6 total, on the MasteryMembership will teach you www.taoofhorsemanship.com/rh-training-program
Your are my inparation..i love the chill way
Can i ask you a question for a problem we go throuw wit one of our horses. He bites al the other horses al the time and at feeding time its the worst. we trided a lot of doing difrent but it doesn>t work. Doe you have a tip please...
Hi Suka and Welcome! Thank you:) I wish it were that easy, giving a simple tip, trick or technique. As I mention in most of my newer released youtube videos, there is nothing easy about horse training or understanding horses. And, fortunately, I can give you some advice and a technique that will work. Your horse's aggressive behavior around food is just that, a behavior, which means it can be changed. He has learned this way because he has either had to fight for his food or was not properly socialized as a young horse around food - meaning his Mom let him be the boss! What I recommend is the following and in this order or it won't work and could be potentially dangerous: 1) teach your horse to back up and away from the rhythmic pressure of a long lunge whip first, at least 5 feet from you 2) teach him to respect the whip and your space during this process, never fear it 3) be the one who feeds him and before you feed him, ask (or make) him stand at least 5 feet (might have to back him up first) from you and BEFORE he eats. Basically you are changing his mindset around feeding, providing him with a safe place to eat but on your terms, terms that are healthier and safer for all. Best of luck and if you need more assistance I offer long distance coaching www.taoofhorsemanship.com/coaching-instruction-1 and the largest and most comprehensive online training academy www.taoacademy-horse-training-courses.com/welcome
Thank you for answering me. It started just a few month ago when new horses got into the groep. I wil try it write away..printed it out so i have my notes like you with me. Lucky enough i am not afraid of him but i have respect for him. I live in a smal town in the Netherlands so thats quit a long distance emergency call..thank you and may you always be one with your horse xxx
It is a little loud in the back round but you are so intelligent so just a heads up
You talk to your horse the same way I talk to mine.
People with good horsemanship skills do not talk to their horses with voice. They use the horse's language (body language).
He so big and gorgeous. I only know zor, Smokey, sundance, legend, baby blue, and lovey. Who are the othe three horses? Cause I heard you have nine horses.
Hi Sarah! I also have a rescued Paso Fino and 2 more OTTB's, Joey and Billy. They are in my videos and online courses.
Caroline Volandt-Beste could you tell me the Paso’ s name. I might know him. Also I love paso finos. I saw that billy was for sale. And I heard that Joey belonged to Linda. She came to one of your immersions. Sorry I know a lot about Tao of horsemanship facility.
@@sarahnystrom8517 Hi Sarah! Joey is mine. When people come to study with me and can't bring a horse, they work with one of mine or several. My Paso's name is Sabroso. He is 16 and registered. He was a former champion and did they mess him up. And yes Billy is for sale. He is an excellent horse for a beginner and an advanced rider - a dream! Please pass along to anyone interested in a horse like him and one that has been personally trained by me:)
This was a perfect example of what you are saying concerning Join up . It’s my goal with Bear . Bear has a neighbor Friesian Mare who has done for Bear , what Zor has taught the Baby . I love it too . Wonderful video 💜😇 Laura 💜 Bear 💜🐴 p.s. I wondered what you think about shaving a Horses coat ? Bear is a Gypsy Cross . I am not wanting to . He is already shedding His Fur. But I am being encouraged by others to shave the hanging pieces that look bad . Do you ever shave horses ?
Hi Laura! Yes, I shave Zor in the winter. His coat gets thick and it's not cold enough here in FL and he gets hot too easily. I do like to trim up their goat hairs and sometimes their legs too, not their whiskers though. They need them!
@@TaoofHorsemanship Oh ok 👍🏼
I'm sorry to say but Clinton Anderson is All About show he wants to sell stuff yes he gets them to do what he wants BUT. you are all about Horse Sense does that make sense?? Relationship and confidence..
I love horses and I haven't had one in a while because I broke my back. But I'm fixing to get me a palomino and the Young 20 year old girl doesn't want her anymore. Because when she goes to trail ride or run it wants to crowhop! I'm thinking no it's not the horse's fault you are doing something wrong.
And she said it scared of everything so I'm thinking how can it be a good trail horse?? You need to get back to basics. I am so glad I found your videos on horse Savvy training.. I'm going to keep a close eye on you girl you are awesome thank you so much..
Hi Keith and Welcome! I look forward to being a part of your horsemanship journey!
Yeah all Clinton wants to do is sell..thank you girl, your awesome!!
It is never the horse's fault.
Looks easy to work with a trained horse.
Hi Jim and Welcome! It is easy with a trained horse! That's not the point of my video lesson though, sorry you missed that. Training begins with training the human eye so they can "connect the dots" and put the pieces, building blocks, together. If you don't know what to look for or how it should look, its the "blind leading the blind." Not to mention, every master horseman/woman appreciates learning from a horse that knows more than they do, a school master. School masters teach you feel and timing and through experiencing it. If you never experience the feel, or the sight, you don't know what you are searching, looking, for. Anyhow, not to ramble. The point of this video, is to show horse owners that there is a different way and a better way for the horse to want to join (choose to join), and it's not through pressure and release tactics.
Like Monty Roberts method?
After leaving the round pen, my pony most definitely would be reaching for some grass. Grass more important than me. Not sure how to handle this.
Hi Robert and Welcome! What you see in this video, between my horse Zor and me is a RESULT of training and foundation. Meaning, there is no one technique or trick that will keep your pony from grabbing for grass either, at least not the way I train or believe. Sure you can smack him or whip him when he does and most trainers would tell you to do that. I won’t and don’t, just making a point and the point is you need to take the time to develop the right foundation with your horse and all of your issues, problems, will disappear or no longer exist.
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I cannot get the page to come up. I will keep trying. Thank you for such a quick reply.
You are a good instruction. Only one thing: your horse decided direction when he stopped to talk to the other horse.
@@maryreeves8399 Hi Mary and Welcome! There's nothing wrong with that. It's called consensual partnership. He has a choice and a will and a mind of his own. I don't want to own that part of him! And, he came back when I asked.
@@TaoofHorsemanship I love love love your answer ! Give our Horse some choices . Pause a minute to show them some freedom in the relationship. Love your Heart for putting relationship first . ♥️🐴♥️
Interesting. So when your expecting “connection” and he decided he wanted to go off or leave you what do you do to reconnect ?? Show us that
Hi Barbara and Welcome! I can't possibly show you everything you need to know in one lesson. Real training and true development doesn't work like that. Quick fixes, learned helplessness and mechanical horses will only get you so far and then the unexpected happens because neither of you was properly prepared. My big program prepares you both and for anything and everything. Learning to "re-connect" with your horse is in my big program. It's also a process and cannot be achieved in one lesson or with one technique. At least not my approach. Most trainers make it happen and instill fear. My training teaches you how to earn it and keep it. My program shows you how (and not in one lesson of course) how to develop the level of connection, trust and consideration you need from your horse so they want to connect, stay connected, and feel safe with you. It is
comprehensive and includes hundreds of "how-to" step-by-step lessons. It's so big it has a 13-page table of contents. Please click here for details www.taoofhorsemanship.com/masterymembership/ and email me should you have any questions Caroline@taoofhorsemanship.com.
how do you with a horse that cant get passed there trauma from previous owner?
Hi Skylar and Welcome! I'd say about 97% of all horses are started incorrectly, thus become unconfident and distrustful. They are rushed during their training, making them confused not to mention they never learn to relax. When you have a horse that is too traumatized to trust and learn
you have to learn how to help them work through the trauma before you can teach, before they are ready to learn. I can help you! I offer the largest, most comprehensive online training program for horse owners and trainers alike. My program specifically addresses two areas: teaching horse owners how to develop their horses using my method, developing their foundation, and it is also designed to "re-start" a horse, re-educate them, basically addressing the many common challenges horse owners face when buying a horse that comes with baggage, damage and trauma or little to no education. For information on how I can help teach you, please visit my MasteryMembership Program www.taoacademy-horse-training-courses.com/mastery-membership-landing-page
Don't blame the previous owner. How the horse acts now is all up to you. If the horse does good, you did good. If the horse does bad, you did bad.
She is not showing the actual actions of the technique here. This horse is already trained and she is showing that training, not how she got there.
Hi Jane and Welcome! Yes, you are correct in that this is not a step-by-step training video. It is a video about what it is, what it means and how it shows up in my method of training.