Leveraged Buyout - Debt Equity Ratio (REVISED)

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  • čas přidán 15. 02. 2016
  • In this tutorial, you’ll learn how to determine the proper debt level to use in a leveraged buyout case study given by a private equity firm - all from using Google and free information you can find online.
    Table of Contents:
    2:35 Step 1: Find Comparable Deals and Estimate the Purchase Multiple and Debt / EBITDA
    9:45 Step 2: Test Your Assumptions in Excel
    16:21 Step 3: Tweak Your Assumptions as Necessary
    18:21 Recap and Summary
    Lesson Outline:
    Question that came in the other day…
    “Help! I just got a case study from a private equity firm I’m interviewing with.”
    “I have to pick a consumer/retail company, download its filings, complete a leveraged buyout model for the company, and recommend for or against the deal.”
    “How can I determine how much debt to use in the deal? They didn’t give me any instructions!”
    You can figure this out simply in most cases without wasting a ton of time sifting through company’s filings. Here’s the 3-step process:
    Step 1: Estimate the purchase multiple, purchase price, and Debt / EBITDA by looking at comparable buyout deals (NOT publicly traded companies, as they almost always have lower debt levels).
    Step 2: Test your assumptions in Excel and see if the company can manage that much debt.
    Step 3: Go back and tweak your assumptions as necessary.
    The purchase price and Debt / EBITDA are very closely linked - for example, you can’t assume 6x Debt / EBITDA if you’re paying only 5x EV / EBITDA for the entire company.
    For most public companies, you need to assume at least a 20-30% share price premium, and then make sure the implied EV / EBITDA multiple is in-line with those of other recent deals in the market.
    Let’s say you pick Bed, Bath & Beyond [BBBY] for your LBO candidate.
    To find 2-3 comparable LBO deals, you can do Google searches for terms like:
    “consumer retail” “leveraged buyouts” [This Year or Last Year]
    consumer leveraged buyouts
    retail leveraged buyouts
    In this case, we find 3 relevant deals: the buyouts of Petco (10x EV / EBITDA and 6x Debt / EBITDA), Life Time Fitness (11x EV / EBITDA and 5.5x Debt / EBITDA), and Belk (7x EV / EBITDA and 5-6x Debt / EBITDA).
    So our deal will likely be done at 8-10x EV / EBITDA with 5-6x Debt / EBITDA.
    BBBY’s share price has fallen by ~50% in the past year, so we think a 50%, 75%, or even 100% premium would be more reasonable than the standard 20-30%, and would imply a purchase multiple of 6.5x - 8.5x instead.
    But can the company support that much debt?
    To answer this question, you can create a simple Excel model with revenue growth, EBITDA margins, Cash Flow from Operations as a % of EBITDA, and CapEx as the key drivers.
    The after-tax interest will also be subtracted from CFO - CapEx to determine debt repayment capacity.
    Then you can evaluate debt repayment, Debt / EBITDA, and EBITDA / Interest over time to see if the debt level is too low, too high, or just about right.
    Focus on the downside cases - What happens if revenue, EBITDA, cash flow, etc. decline? Margins and growth HAVE declined historically for BBBY!
    Ideally, Debt / EBITDA should decline over time and EBITDA / Interest should rise as the company repays debt.
    So if Debt / EBITDA rises instead, or EBITDA / Interest falls, you’ll have to assume a lower debt level.
    In this deal, we run into trouble when revenue declines or when we pay closer to a 100% premium for the company because Debt / EBITDA approaches 8x in some later years.
    Even if revenue growth stays positive and the premium is only 75%, the credit stats and ratios still don’t look "great."
    So we’d say that 5-6x Debt / EBITDA is a stretch, and 4-5x is more feasible. At a 75% premium, this might be 60% debt (4.5x) and at a 100% premium it might be 50% debt (4.2x).
    Once you’ve come up with baseline estimates for these figures, you would continue to build the model, come up with something more complex, and then ultimately make your investment recommendation on the company and present it.
    But you can save a lot of time and finish case studies more efficiently if you know how to find and confirm simple figures like these before you do anything more complex.
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Komentáře • 20

  • @erol2004
    @erol2004 Před 8 lety +4

    You're a star! :-) Very easy to digest

  • @jmleon92
    @jmleon92 Před 8 lety +1

    Thank you so much! Keep making these and I'll keep watching!

  • @karolyholczhauser1528
    @karolyholczhauser1528 Před 8 lety +2

    As a first comment on this video: Thank you very much for this guys !

  • @prasenjitdey4222
    @prasenjitdey4222 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you Sir!👍👏🤝

  • @Bertztuful
    @Bertztuful Před 5 lety

    Excellent video..
    1) I have seen models where leverage/ debt is adjusted or tweaked to meet the target IRR ? Is that a secondary concern and primary objective should be if debt is manageable ?
    2)How do PE firms determine target IRR for a deal. like 20-25% ? Is it arbitrary

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  Před 5 lety

      1) You could do this, but it's a bit pointless because companies raise the amount of debt they are able to raise, no more, no less. You can always boost returns in positive scenarios by adding leverage, but then downside cases look worse. So... you can't really tell the ideal level of leverage without a crystal ball.
      2) The typical goal is to beat the public markets by ~2x, so this often works out to a 20-25% IRR. But it depends on the firm's strategy, industry focus, LPs, etc. as well.

    • @Bertztuful
      @Bertztuful Před 5 lety

      @@financialmodeling Thanks a lot Brian

  • @werocomoco3537
    @werocomoco3537 Před 8 lety

    Firstly, thanks for the informative video. I can see and appreciate the purpose of this quick exercise. However, in real life suppose you take term loans to acquire and usually for 5 years. Shouldnt the debt/ebitda should decrease further and not just stay approximately flat-ish as the debt should be repaid in 5 years?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  Před 8 lety

      Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Debt often stays the same because instruments such as unsecured senior notes tend to have bullet maturity. EBITDA may grow over time, but there are plenty of cases where it declines or stays about the same as well.

  • @crayonXcore393
    @crayonXcore393 Před 8 lety

    Around 6:30, you mentioned that the amount actually drawn by Sycamore was approximately $2.4B (less than the accessible $3.8B indicated by the proxy statement). Where can you go to figure out the actual financing drawn by the buyer (ie. the $2.4B)?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  Před 8 lety

      +Michael Ellis You can always find the actual amount drawn in the Sources & Uses schedule... which is usually somewhere in the final Definitive Agreement or in the final filings that are published before the deal closes.

    • @crayonXcore393
      @crayonXcore393 Před 8 lety +1

      Excellent... thanks for the help; these videos are great. I started watching them about 6 months ago and they contributed SIGNIFICANTLY to my obtaining a summer internship in banking. Couldn't have done it without BIW!!

  • @John-rh2co
    @John-rh2co Před 8 lety

    Do you have a google drive file to download the sheet to check out your formulas and how you set it up?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  Před 8 lety

      +John Lanza Please click "Show More" under the video and scroll to the bottom.

  • @maxsteelwe
    @maxsteelwe Před 8 lety

    won't the interest rate increase as you change you assumption of taking 50% debt vs 100% debt financing for the deal as it is becoming riskier?

    • @financialmodeling
      @financialmodeling  Před 8 lety

      Yes, but what does that have to do with the concept presented here? This is about how to determine the Debt/Equity split.