First ride: All-new CFMOTO 800MT a quirky yet compelling adventure tourer | Hard Test | INFO MOTO
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- čas přidán 31. 03. 2022
- We’ve had a very close eye on CFMOTO’s all-new, KTM-powered 800MT since it was first revealed early last year. It represents a new entry-point into the booming adventure touring segment thanks to its sharp pricing, and a new era for the ambitious Chinese bike manufacturer.
This week, we finally got the chance to test the CFMOTO 800MT, taking it on a two-day adventure through some of Australia’s finest roads and tracks. We didn’t hold back, seriously putting the bike to the test to see if it is indeed the hugely significant new model it promises to be.
What we like:
- Unmatched value
- All-day comfort, versatility
- Sharp styling and fit-and-finish
Room for improvement:
- Sometimes unwieldy due to weight
- Snatchy throttle
- No traction control
2022 CFMOTO 800MT pricing and specs
CFMOTO Australia has officially released its new 800MT adventure bike with two variants, Sport and Touring, priced rideaway from $12,990 and $14,490, respectively.
The base CFMOTO 800MT Sport will be exclusively finished with a Starlight Black livery, while the higher spec Touring is distinguished by an Ocean Blue colour scheme.
The CFMOTO 800MT is the brand’s second non-LAMS model to be released Down Under, following the 700CL-X naked bike, as part of its joint venture with Austrian bikemaker KTM.
Motivating the new adventure bike is a KTM-sourced 799cc parallel twin, tuned to produce 70kW and 77Nm, and backed up by a slipper clutch and ride-by-wire system.
Standard kit on both 800MT Sport and 800MT Touring is a 19-litre fuel tank, fully adjustable KYB suspension, crash bars, an adjustable windscreen and J.Juan brakes.
Both bikes also features cruise control, fog lights, USB charging, LED lights and a 7.0-inch TFT screen with smartphone connectivity and satellite-navigation.
While the 800MT Sport uses cast wheels measuring 19- and 17-inches front-to-rear, the 800MT touring benefits from wire-spoked tubeless wheels.
Also unique to the 800MT Touring is standard tyre-pressuring monitoring, an up/down quickshifter, handguards, bash plate and steering damper.
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Nice review there sir. I have tested the CFMoto 650 MT and GT from my local Czech importer over the last couple of years and I have to say that I have been well impressed with the bikes. So much so that it kind of pisses me off when people say "for a Chinese bike ...... " - they are stand alone good enough to be compared against anything without trying to make caveats in advance. I am waiting to test the 800MT as well as the CLX 700 and have high hope for both. Have subscribed to your channel on the strength of this review and looks forward to seeing some more. Always nice to get the perspective of riders from differnt parts of the world.
You're in luck. Check the 800MT out here. infomoto.com.au/bike-reviews/video-all-new-cfmoto-800mt-a-quirky-yet-compelling-adventure-tourer/
I now have a cfmoto 800mt and I've well and truly put it through its paces I now run the eo7 plus front and rear I also run 18psi front and rear ive done 1800k with no flats no failure at all and this has been done on real off road not just main dirt road this bike performs so much better then its given the credit for
Great review team.
I find Australia has traditionally been pretty quick to adapt to new brands, so I expect to see quite a few of these on the roads.
CFMOTO is a very improved manufacturer and offers keenly priced product. Watching their growth with interest.
This is perhaps the best bike review I’ve ever seen. Real time thinking on the bike rather stylized summary. Learned more here about a specific motorcycle than from any other vid. Thanks!
Huge compliment. Cheers mate ✌️
Very kind words. Thank you.
My first visit to the channel, what a great review, not spec heavy, just good honest from the saddle thoughts and considerations. I am not sure the 800MT has broken cover yet in the UK, I did see them at the Motorcycle Live show so perhaps they may be hitting the dealers by now, I'll have a look.
Thanks so much for your nice comments, Neil. I believe this bike goes on sale in the UK in June priced from under £10k. Cheers!
Interesting, and thorough, review. Thank you Info Moto.
Hello, I think that overall it is a good and interesting test, but if you hit the gas a little less aggressively and with a better feeling during the entire recording, the motorcycle would behave just as well and more stably on the field as on the road.
Excellent review - nice work lads
Cheers, much appreciated.
I have one at Dominican Republic and agree with you in the throttle and maybe the traction control, but have no problem with the weight...maybe because I'm coming from the big cruisers world 😉.
Excellent review..!
awesome track...oaahhhh. .Good work man..
Great job on this…impressed with your candour.
Thanks Brent. We aim for the truth at all times.
When the corners are deep with sand/gravel, you best can hold on the gas and brake with the rear. Keep the chain tight! Off the gas, means weight momentum loss, resulting in pushing the front. you can do this it al speeds basically.
Iwa looking for review lucky i found your chanel nice review looking forward for another review with 800cc cfmotto..best wishes&more power from phililpiines..❤️
Welcome aboard. Glad to have a friend in the Phillipines with us.
Hi, thank you for this video, this motorcycle is sold on promotion at €10,900 in France, Touring model. I was surprised given the heavy weight that there is no traction control (the new Explorer model has this feature but much more expensive). There was an injection update which corrected the problem with acceleration/deceleration. Have you tried the bike with this update? I had the T 700 Tenéré for 4 years without electronics and it didn't bother me but it weighs 204kg compared to 245kg for the CFmoto 800 MT. I'm getting older and with my 58th birthday I moved on to an AJP PR7 (T700 sold in August 2023). As you said, a heavy motorcycle is very complicated to drive on more difficult technical passages (large stones, rivers, steep sandy sides, etc.). But nevertheless many of us look at this CFMOTO 800 MT with a lot of interest. Perhaps a motorcycle for traveling alone or in pairs, more oriented towards roads/off road light...
what a great piece here, real-time riding, super crazy.
Would love to see traction control and keep cruise control as well, we can do without heated grips and seat.. Essentials are essentials.. Cruise control would help on longer roads, specially for rider like me who is more into road riding/touring and does not consider touring/adventure bikes offroad friendly (Weight factor).. Beautiful lookin machine, we have couple of these on road here in Pakistan, will wait for future models and see what changes they do... Would be a better option than a benelli Trk502X i am riding currently..
Agree on TC and cruise appraisal. The bike deserves both.
Maybe try the rain mode in the dirt, softens the response a little. Enjoyed your review.
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Gotta stand up on the pegs & lean forward Spencer to load the front.😎Hope you had fun!✅
When? I wouldn't want to ride across the country like that.
Exactly Steve. Fine to sit down and cruise but as you say you need to load up and balance the bike’s suspension. Last thing you want is it pitching forward and back on a loose surface going hard.
Im riding one so impressed, drive long distance did not feel it , handling is good on dirt as well I love it much lighter than the GS
nice review .... nice
I bought this beast for 9.800€ brand new in Greece! I couldn't really expect more in that price. Next level bikes are over 16K....Enjoy
Agreed. Hard to beat on the value front.
The throttle response is perfect for me. No problem there mate.
Just got mine , the sand/ green limited edition version.
I can't knock it yet, put it up 30ks of not so great gravel roads and 450 on regular back roads, plus some highway ks after i picked it up . Brilliant, it has some quirks but
its an amazing bike for this kind of money there will be knockers, but bloody hell, for the money with all the equipment as standard it's really hard to knock it in my opinion.
Great review as well.
Thanks Rob. Yep, value for money is right on point. It's still a big bike and the adventure segment is full of porky bikes. Just don't expect dirt bike agility and make room for that and the thing comes into its own.
Hello from the UK 👋 good review there, I believe the fueling has now been sorted through software updates. I have test ridden and ordered a 2024 model 800MT, I was really impressed with it and found it better than the Honda transalp, it rides better and the amount of kit for the money is insane. I also have a Honda fireblade and disagree with you on TC, my blade with 180bhp doesn’t haven’t TC so I’m confident a 95bhp bike doesn’t need TC but each to their own. I can see why you don’t like it on the dirt, I think it was designed way more for the road than off road. For context, the transalp is £9600 with absolutely nothing. The CF Moto is £9200 with absolutely everything. No brainer.
This is a great review and is steering me towards rather than away from getting one of these. What you get for the money is just mental. I'm not concerned with the three negatives because (1) I've been using my R1150RT as a sports bike for a decade, (2) the fuelling has since been fixed and (3) I'm old enough that TC is entirely in the right wrist. Can't see any real-world situation where a
Well researched! We came away from the MT pretty impressed, and indeed, the fuelling issue is gone.
Notice at the 32:52 time, when the presenter is looking at the sport version there is an additional ride mode showing "custom", software update coming I wonder? I have a first release version 800MT, 2 ride modes.
Just discovered your channel. Thanks for a great review.
UK reviewer had only a brief ride and just on tarmac & she found it necessary to go for Rain Mode to assist the fuelling/throttle response issue.
Perhaps Rain Mode isn’t available on the Australian market bikes?
Hey Noel, thanks for tuning in. We do get the Rain mode on Australian models which smooths it out a bit but I'm not sure it's worth the drop in performance. Good to have the option though.
Eildon-Jamieson Rd. One of my favourites.
I'm not a fan of promoting Chinese products though given they have bullshit trade bans on Australian goods, thinly vailed support for Russia in Ukraine, provoking Taiwan with threats of invasion and pushing a military presence in our area of the world. China is at war with Australia, we just dont know it. Hopefully there is enough moral presence in Australia to choose products made elsewhere when the choice is available.
I’m the slowest guy in my rather quick regular group. I just ride my ride and show up at the stops 30 seconds late. They don’t care at all and I don’t crash. Win-win 😅.
Thanks for the review. The way you describe it is pretty much what I’m looking for. I live in a rural area and so I’m mainly on sealed roads but occasionally am on dirt roads. I also do highway riding between towns and I’ve heard that it revs a little high at Australian highway speeds (decreasing economy). Did you find that?
It revs a bit at highway speeds, but that would have a negligible effect on fuel; economy, unless you are doing silly speeds, and then that's on you. You're stated useage suits the bike perfectly.
I have one myself, bloody good honest review, i feel the throttle control very vague, but all in all bloody good.
The throttle response becomes better when you fix the manufacturers mistake with the airfilters seal in the airbox
TC matters to me in the meantime, but heated seats and grips will never
Wow that thing sounds great
Yep. Great value.
Looking forward for the comparison with QJ SRT 800 X/TRK 800 X
Hello, did u find any issues with the shifter in general? Somewhere i read there have been some issues in lower gears, anyway awesome video!! Thanks!!
No major issues with the shifter. It's not the smoothest in the world, but does the job just fine in my experience. Cheers for watching!
Some say, that shifters have to be hard on on/off bikes in order for the driver to get more clear informations about the gears changes!This shifter on MT800 is not as smooth as on a sport bike, but it works perfectly up and down!
Hello mate great video I really appreciate your feedback on the cfmoto 800nt .
I had lovely chat with my local dealer who gave this bike a big wrap.
I mentioned to the dealer that I was
Looking the new klr and the dealer said that the klr is out dated . I don't mind spending the extra few grand for this cf moto
But like you said it's not very confidence inspiring on the dirt. What are your thoughts or suggestions I have about a 15k budget to spend
I'm looking at something like a 50/50 bike or close to it
Thanks again mate
Well, it comes down to useage, as always. The KLR is indeed outdates, but with good reason. It's bulletproof and sturdy. The MT seems right in your wheelhouse.
So how would you have coped in the days before all this tech was available. Before abs traction control and all that
Tyre pressure needs to be a bit lower, caring a pump is not a problem as it has a power jack. love that bike thou, coming from a heavy cruiser, (385kg just the bike). this a light weight.
Gents what route did you take? Eildon Jamieson road?
Could you share please - it looked sensational and I think I need to take my FTR1200 on the same route!
Bit late but that route is from Jamieson to Woods Point, if you keep going past woods point you can either go left over to the coast near morwell or right to Marysville. It can also snow in winter so avoid that.
It's best reviews i have seen 👌💯👍the bollocks
Great review 👍👍👍👍,i wonder if cfmoto takes an endo?can you tried it?
LOL.
Great vid. Have you tried the 2023 model?
Are you asking about the Explore edition?
No traction control for this price is a deal-breaker for me. I would instead choose a used Yamaha 9 GT with low miles, or Vstrom 1050xt
See your point. TC update might be in the wings.
Seeing other reviews it has full traction control as well as cornering ABS.
Certainly not in Australia, perhaps its specified differently in other markets.
@@INFO_MOTO Yep looks like the UK gets cornering ABS and traction as standard on both models (sport and touring) interesting it's not even an option for Australia?
I just can't stop laughing 🤣🤣 you ragged that bike well and truly it is the bike for me such value for money end of 👌💯👍
That salad-slicer mounted on the brake master cylinder looks a bit sketchy 😬
Great review of a weird looking bike. If it's got a KTM motor, and Chinese pricing I'm sure it will do well.
It's advenure styling and that has always been a little lumpy. Great value option.
I've had mine now for 6 months and never missed the lack of traction control. Weight is easily managed, but the throttle is not good. I am getting used to it but can catch you off guard.
most modern efi bikes have crap throttle response ecu and run lean, i put a booster plug on my triumph xrx 800 to stop it being jolty and jerky through traffic works perfect now. BOOSTER PLUG
New mapping is available through your local dealership and it’ll fix the abrupt throttling.
So as a $14,490 road tourer, it's a great bike? Enjoyed the review.
Yep, that pretty much sums it up. Thanks for watching mate 👍
Great bunch of blokes at Mojo!
i see this bike as a touring bike only with enduro looks for that price its superb just wonder when it got miles on the engine how its gonna be ma 02 fjr has 50,000 miles and still excellent
Certainly capable, as long as you don't expect too much from it. Round OZ?I don't think so. It would be an absolute beast to live with, on a day to day basis.
Lots have people have done around Oz on smaller bikes than this, it would be fine given out rubbish secondary roads.
A few people have already travelled around Australia on this motorcycle.
Thanks. Wondering why you wouldn't see it as a good Around Oz option?
So my main thing with this bike, is that the engine is based or a copy of the KTM 790. Would the same leaky gaskets that the KTMs we're kind of known for be an issue with CF? I think other than that they were fine.
This is why I am uninterested in cfmoto. They should have taken a suzuki or honda engine.
@@keldonator They build KTM engines. No scope for an engine from another maker.
It's advertised as with corner Abs/traction control check again
Not in Australia.
When you were riding on the dirt did it make any difference with the throttle response if you changed from sport to touring mode and did you lower the tyre pressure at all .
I have ordered one and I'm just not shore if I have done the right thing
No, tyre pressures remained.
Traction control is your right wrist and ABS. Worst case, chuck it into rain mode.
Been watching a few different reviews of the 800MT, and it's good to receive your 'Live' thoughts on the bike as you ride along.
I have to wonder if making a few adjustments to the suspension would improve the stability and give more confidence on gravel roads
This would be an easy purchase decision if it gave you the ability to turn off rear wheel ABS, and it came with Traction Control.
Yes, TC would be lovely. The suspension offers full adjustability at both ends (quite rare at this price point), so yes, you can tweak the setup to your liking.
Can you Ron 87 in it?
Try riding in a higher gear with less revs & use the torque, much easier that way. I think you're riding it like a 4 banger.
rain mode
Mi servirebbe la traduzione in italiano di quello che hai detto, dal video mi sembra che hai fatto una bella prova, mi piacerebbe sapere le tue sensazioni sceso da questa moto.
I'm not such an experienced rider and I'm not having problems riding it...
Good to hear mate
Which state are you in m8?
Victoria 👍
Is cfmoto 800mt with TCS (Traction Control Syatem)?
No TCS in Australia although I believe it does come with it in some other markets.
Well the way you are ragging it i am not surprised 🤣🤣 it is a fantastic bike what ever you say and fantastic value for money OK
The pirellis are good on road but leave much to be desired offroad
hi,can you tell me more about the fueling,is it something you could live with,thanks
Hey Allan. Its definitely no deal breaker - more a quirk that you can learn to ride around.
With the greatest of respect man........... I have been riding this bike in Rhodes, Greece for the last 6 hours and have it for another 20 (will clock around 300km's off and on road before I'm done), and ummmm......... yeah........ don't really know what to say. There ARE issues with the bike (fuelling I'll agree with you on), but even though in Europe it DOES have Traction Control...... it's a 95bhp bike with KYB suspension and great tyres: WTF would you need traction control off road?? You seem REALLY nervous on the most mildest gravel you could probably get, so I'm afraid, you ain't gonna feel any better on a Tiger or GS either off road! Steering damping and gear selector travel are the biggest issues I could find, but looking at your speedo, I don't think you ever once got over 60kph, so I'm sorry my man....... but even the standard Maxxis tyres on would breeze through far easier/faster here on far dodgier Greek roads, and make them feel like tarmac, so the Scorpions were MAJORLY overly excessive for the mild riding you were doing......... they are designed for proper off road, and I'm sorry my man....... but you were barely off tarmac (which is why you probably struggled!). They are good bikes - not amazing, but until I finish my tour of them tomorrow, I'll reserve judgement on whether they are worth the money or not...... though now that I think about it..... the brakes were sh1te too....... hmmmm....... this is gonna be a hard one!
make a review about this bike man...would like to hear your thoughts on this bike
@@vincefoo6485 Should have it edited and posted by end of week (I had a 2022 Tenere 700 for the last 24 hours on practically same route, so will have that video up online after I've posted the CF Moto vid! 😁
@@leosantos3945 Sorry man, just uploaded a couple of days ago. Sorry for the onboard footage - I had to use their helmet, so couldn't mount my GoPro to it, so only had a chest harness. It's a pity, as the roads were amazing, but hopefully it will still give you a good sense of it. It's a great bike (apart from the two issues I had - but if you're not trying to brake from 140kph in to every corner like I was..... then the brakes may be just fine for you! Haha! czcams.com/video/VE2957CcIPo/video.html
To be fair, at one point I'm sure he said he wasn't the most confident offroad rider, and given the price point, it's likely to attract inexperienced riders, so a warning about lack of TC would be useful, and that inexperienced rider might go look at something else. Whereas an experienced rider wouldn't worry about that. Presumably throttle issue could be resolved by getting ECU remapped, and then you've got a great package for half price of European marques.
I agree with you 100%…I had my first motorcycle aged 4 back in 1970 and grew up without traction control, ABS or ride modes and still ride most days…..in all seriousness if someone “needs“ traction control to be safe on a 95hp motorcycle then they desperately need to go to riding school. I’ve ridden this bike and this reviewer is simply a crap rider and that’s what it is. Hard test absolute BS.
It weighs the same as the new Triumph 900 Rallye Pro..........and 14 kgs less than the BMW GS850 Adventure? The KTM 890 Adventure comes in with less weight.....but the you are paying for a hardcore off road adventure bike and this is not tyhe market the CF Moto 800 MT is aimed at.
why is it good to have the wire spoked wheels? I would think the mag wheels were better since it does not have an inner tube. easier to repair out in the back woods.
Wire wheels offer more 'give' in off-road and roufh going.
@@INFO_MOTO thank you
Türkiye de CF MT 800 yedek parça yok servis problem leri var ben CFMT 800 aldım püşmanım iyi deyil yedek parça problemi var 😔
Can people stop speaking of "beginner bikes"? I was riding Kawasaki KZ1000's when I was 12 years old. Buy what you want now and save $15,000. Put your big boy pants on... you don't have to push it at full throttle.
Not hard to get a fuel remap.
Stop trusting in riders aids . Learn to trust yourself . Cover that rear brake if you're afraid of some lift . I'm glad I've learned to ride . I don't need or even want TC or ABS on my bike . But then again, I ride my bike like my big truck . Rev matching,engine braking a must . I stay off the brakes as much as possible and keep on rolling !!!!!
i thought riders loving power slides, haha
Top heavy, snatchy throttle and needs traction control. 3 strikes and your out.
Not being easy to ride or a beginner bike in my opinion is not a bad thing, first of all because a 800cc bike it is not a beginner bike at all, also bikes trying to be good for everyone are risking becoming tasteless and boring.
You make a strong point. Fair call.
I lost interest the minute you said it feel heavy .
Thanks for letting me know
What I have noticed is that this guy relies too much on electronics in a bikes hate to see him ride a bike that doesn't have any. Well I get that's why there making bikes safer these days
No offence mate but don't blame the bike for your poor riding skills. You're throttle control sounded like those Asian bike reving competition 🤣
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You failed to mention the worthless windscreen….regardless of its position…