Dialing in a RIDICULOUSLY HEAVY guitar tone! (w/ Humanity's Last Breath)
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- čas přidán 11. 03. 2020
- Buster Odeholm dials in a BRUTAL downtuned guitar tone for Humanity's Last Breath! He uses the Fortin Nameless suite amp sim, the TSE 808 overdrive pedal sim and a 3rd party IR with FabFilter Pro Q, but the same concepts should apply with any plugins.
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"Just fuck with the frequencies" - Buster Odeholm 2020
"This sounds fucking disgusting"
Me: nods.
"Thanks, dude!"
Me: nods even harder.
I've watched this about 3 times and that riff never gets old it's so gnarly
That bass tone is beyond crushing. Damn!
bass sounds great but we cant hear it soloed it this vid or did i miss it?
@@Gregoses only by a sec at 13:05.
“That sounds fucking disgusting” thank you dude.
Only in this genre hahahaha.
"That sounds fucking disgusting."
Best compliment ever.
Magician... I'd kill for his ears and being able to hear the way he does!
Try my tracks on my channel
I followed this Nail The Mix the other day on my KRK's and it was difficult for me to hear certain things that Buster was doing. I just got a pair of Sennheiser HD660s (the same headphones he's using in the video) also corrected by Sonarworks. The difference is insane!!! I can hear everything he is doing! My mixes have instanty changed and become waaaaaay better!!
@@NemertinesOfficial Holy shit that's you)
@@lorddgoldd I hate mixing on my krks I’ve switched to the headphone route myself.
umm, hd660 are mid even with eq. Dt 990 /8 770 pro 80ohm and k371 are much better but still need eq. If you want best sounding earphones you'll have to go in ear. Something like monarch mk2, ej07m or kiwi ears quintet are up there.
The volume issue wasn't a bug. The knob that says "PULL GAIN" gives the volume a huge boost and it was in the other position.
That Saturn trick wow
chiefindisguise
Maybe a stupid question but what Saturn trick? So much of this goes over my head.
@@gregoryfinn2714 he's talking about the Fabfilter Saturn VST used at 14:25 till the end of the video. which is used to creat controled distortion/saturation
@@liamphillips2918 you use it as you like as long as you understand what you're doing
@@liamphillips2918 Guitars are tuned so low they basically are bass guitars haha
he cut the mid with pro q. then boost that portion with the saturn and add saturation to it. that's new to me.
Hard to believe that's an amp sim, Neural DSP is knocking it out of the park!
Easy to believe. In a blindfold test it's impossible to hear the differences between a sim and a real amp ESPECIALLY in a mix
Why is it hard to believe? This isn't 2003, amp sims have been amazing for years now.
Amp sims have sounded better and better over the years, but the high gain treble saturation always sounded a little off. I never liked Bias, Amplitube etc. but once Neural dropped Nameless, THAT was a sim I was willing to pay for. Of course we're all entitled to our own opinions.
@@Pervatory personally I think TSE x50 was good enough for most high gain stuff
@@ayeapprove I never had a problem with vst overdrives, my issue was more with virtual amp heads.
Line 6 Spider "INSANE" setting replica.
I have a line 6 spider and i havent found any way to get that sound in a software yet but my god thats my favorite sound in an amp ever
@@courtnrysalamone7677 Probably a drastic high-pass filter and massive amount of gain.
@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE yeah, thats what my basis usually is but im still trying to dial in the fine details. One day ill get it haha
@@courtnrysalamone7677 Line 6 have a Helix Native VST plugin... not sure if it has an "INSANE" preset but might be the easiest way to get that tone.
@@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE ill have to check that out
Tone was so heavy I got a panic attack and shat myself
Pedrhard brown note???
Wizard with those pre-EQ cuts and interesting technique with Bluecat in parallel. That's what makes a unique tone these days thinking outside the box. Good stuff, and that's a ridiculously heavy tone.
This video is really cool! That being said, I don’t understand any of it.
same, nothing matches my dry ass guitar tone
@@juanvazquez5836 DI is everything, New strings, played cleanly and edited well. Sometimes it takes hours and sometimes you get it in a few takes. And hit the strings hard if you're playing metal
@@xCantraxI've been recording and playing my own brutal death metal for over 10 years, went from mixcraft from age 14-17 to reaper at age 18-22 and so on to studio one. I've watched numerous mixing and mastering videos and still have never nailed a mix, so i really don't know what wizardry people have, but after following multiple tutorials from top end engineers there must be a huge secret and Im not stupid i know what Im working with after all these years
@@completionofanexorcism1195 The DAW you use doesn't matter. There's no wizardry. It's years of experience and doing things over and over again, learning what tools will be best suited for what situation, what room you're recording and/or mixing in, etc... I'm not tryin to put down what you said because I definitely get where you're coming from. Sometimes it does seem like there's some big secret. But perfect performances, the right instruments/amps and nailing all the takes, understanding that source tone is basically everything and just having the dedication to get the best takes no matter how long it will take is the secret. You can't really change the way things sound. You can really just accentuate the good parts. So if the tone you're recording with isn't good then pick another one that is because you truly can't polish a turd. In my opinion anyway.
@@xCantrax Thanks for not lashing at me! haha. I can get a decent mix and master but ya nothing as brutal as this. Really what pisses me off is how long I have used the tools after all these years and i always seems back to square one. Thanks for the reply it's giving me a bit of motivation. i feel i will be watching this vid for the next couple months learning.
"Please work" - Buster
lmfao we've all been there
"That sounds fucking disgusting"
"Thanks dude" 😂
Some of those 10 year old FREE VST's and plug-ins still compete/compare today.
why shouldn't they? :) The algorithms behind all these effects are pretty simple and well-known. New software doesn't always make it better, it comes out to make money for their owners not to make things really better
They are great...but the response from using my new captor x and my tube amp (with a few plugins like compressor/limiters) sounds unmatched imo. 🤘🏻
@@the_legendary_gojira9514 what the actual fuck are you talking about. who buys such garbage let alone play them geez
10:33 perfect
I had a friend who used to write and produce his own brutal metal tracks. People listened to them and said : "Man, that's so rotten. You are rotten". And he was all like : "Really?! THANK YOU!!" 😁
probably the best buster video on here, his tone is insane for what they are going for... fucking love humanitys last breath
Very innovative stuff. Both music and production style. Got all of us production nerds in awe here.
A similar technique was used at fred nordstroms studio 10 years before this. You can get similar tones like these from his fredman amp plugin.
My mind and ears just exploded, that sounds insanely awesome!
It was cool to see this live - I do very little to guitars compared to Buster, it taught me a few things I could try from a producer standpoint, though I’m no producer
Gotta say the parallel processing via the Blue Cat plugin is eye opening, I usually just dup tracks and use different plugins on different layers, I need to try this approach.
live I use a boss LS-2 for that, it is a great way to boost metal tones without killing the original character. Damn good video this one, need to get the full session!
+1
+1
Don't duplicate tracks.overdub them.it will sound fuller.if i misunderstood what you wrote sorry.
Duplicating w different plugins on each track is exactly the same as having a plugin split it for you. Parallel processing is parallel processing.
learning guitar tone with henry of kingdom come deliverance
Hahaha can't unseeee
lol now that you mention it
i learned more things in this video than the other hundred videos i've ever seen, good job
I've been waiting for this!!!!
this video is BRILLIANT... what a masterclass in guitar tone production
Okay explain it to me then please, I didn't understand half of it haha
Please God do a Nail the Mix for Car Bomb's album 'Mordial'. Nolly is a wizard.
This. All day.
If anyone is wondering, the song is Abyssal Mouth.
Thank you!
What I learned is, that Pro Tools semms to be pain in the ass
It is. There's little reason to use it today imo.
Gotta love this craft
The joy of knowing there is an entire subculture that knows exactly what s-preshigh is and why it's perfect.
This sounds dope!!!
Holy moly gotta try...
That Saturn trick was hella nice
Gorgeous!
great changed very modulated and controlled sound level i like it
Sound monstruous !!!
That tone is criminal. Going to have to buy a couple VSTs to get there but I wanna try writing with this and just let the evil pour out lmao
Was the Fortin Nameless Suite tone used on the final version of the song?
If so that is disgustingly heavy sounding! I use the same plugin and I absolutely love it.
A bit late as a reply but I think it may have been TSE for amp and cab on the actual album. For Nail the Mix and in the album Valde though he for sure used Nameless.
10:06.... And THAT boys and girls, is why we record left and right guitars separately holy FUUUCK
10:10 finally!
Id listen to a whole song of pretty much just that
Wow, that Saturn is what I'm missing.
Yesterday I buy Fortin Nameless and trying this chain. But I have so many low at my ditrack. I'm using ltd ec1000 - dibox - pream - audio interface. I have to use the minimum -16db 80-110 Hz on the low range before the amp to have a frequencies image, as yours. Is this normal? Thanks for what you doing and sorry for my English.
Amazing sounds massive and tight...great to see..
WOW the slap in our face!
Oh my god
There’s so much for me to learn
Good to see he's still using the same cab, I remember being recommended by Brian Hood to use that cab years ago
Also nice to see someone else doing the same processing I do with Saturn, it's seriously a fantastic plugin
Stems
@@Scias give
@@Ghost17110 bro you want windflower stems in animal crossing
Next you need to show mixing the bass tone from when you played the track with the whole mix.
Bruuutal !!
@0:41 You can turn it off just by right-clicking the pedal,amp and cab section 😁
love reamping techs with tlc \m/ and dsp
Dammmm son! Sounds so insane!
Is he mixing with open back headphones AND studio monitors at the same time? I've got to try that...
Its so cool seeing that the pros use all the same tools as us, we just suck at it. Then again, the fab filter has a multiband compressor built in? wth?
I have never seen someone make such massive cuts and boosts on an EQ, but it totally works. sometimes you just gotta get unconventional if you wany a good sound
Sick
Best guitar tone ive heard in my 16 years of playing guitar
God job.. I learn a lot from this video
So no ones gunna acknowledge that digital fart at 3:17 ok. Ill be that guy. 😂
i'm guessing that little bit duck boost at around 1 to 2kHz is very important due to speaker designs tend to cutting em a little bit, maybe?
I find it gets rid of some harshness.
first time ive seen someone else use an eq before the amp to treat the DI. ive been doing that and using an eq boost instead of an OD
Same here! I usually combine it with a tube screamer for extra cream.
I do that as well. For me it was to reproduce using EQ pedal into drive pedal on a real pedal board into a real amp, which I've done since the early 80's...the Randy Rhodes trick that became the norm. But yeah, if just the EQ into the amp accomplishes the goal why use up more of the processor by adding in the drive pedal plug in?
@@jfo3000 exactly. i use juggernaut and ragnarok pickups so they are already fairly mid boosted. i dont need the extra gain or volume boost from a tubescreamer just the eq curve which i copied from a maxed fortin grind pedal. really tightens everything up
I do that. Di has to be corrected sometimes
10:34 "that sounds fucking disgusting" "thanks dude".
in this case the bass is in the same octave as the guitars?
Ahhhh good old Ryan Harve impulses! Used to bang s-preshigh to the oblivion back in the Andy Sneap Ultimate Metal Forum times! I wonder if i have those exact impulses? Anybody know where to get them?
The important point I am focus on is the DI source. The process after the DI recording is a mystery.
Sounds brutal, Buster is amazing!
For someone using Reaper as their DAW using this same process. When you created the second round of Pro Q3 and Saturn, did you add it to the Master FX, did you create a Guitar Submix for the DI's or did you buss the DI's to a separate track?
I cannot for the life of me figure out exactly which diffraction you took them.
Guitar submix, so q3 and saturn effect both left and right guitar. Di's are on separate trakcs which go into eq then into amp on both.
@Artyom Mosin short of Blue Cat Oatchwork (I found a cracked version) and the CLA 76 (I'm using Fab Filter hPro C) I noticed I got the tone down but every once in a while it comes through SUPER sick for like a quick second then goes away.
Not sure if you'd know what that could be from? I tried to get the Ats3 x50 to "learn" but it didn't fix the issue I'm having.
@@michaelclark7456 First idea that comes to mind is that the attack on CLA is to slow, so sometimes it lets through to much dB into the amp.
@Artyom Mosin sadly I'm using Fab Filter Pro C instead of the CLA because I haven't had funds to buy the CLA yet. But it's super weird. It still sounds good but I'll be playing a riff and for a split second it sounds ridiculously good then goes back again.
I'll invest in the CLA and see if that makes a difference but I just wanted to say I appreciate you trying to diagnose this with me.
Does anybody know where I can find a copy of TSE x50 for mac? The website does not support purchases anymore.
So that low end dynamic cut is basically the same as the Andy Sneap multiband trick. 👍🏻
either mm comp or dyn eq will do, the difference is that the comp cuts right through the treshorld and the dyamic eq just subtracts some db's, I guess that the DI was already processed in some way that's why he chosen dyn eq, maybe it's just preference
@@dawidgrden2227 I wish i would know how these DI-quality is made. My god!
How tf does the lowering the mids and then rising them work?
Does Pro Tools not have a mix knob for plugins?
it does not
It sounds really cool and heavy, i tried to get the same, but i couldn't
Dude, does someone know how their pitch shifter works? I always wanted to know, but I can't find any video or site anywhere
Digitech whammy DT controlled in the DAW via MIDI!
That Saturn trick, fuck...
Right click on the Namelss Cab section or pedal section actual quickly disable it. Pre-EQ rules!
Okay, the guy fucking rocks
fucking gnarly
Wow 🧐
Smack tone
Sounds grizzly, Buster is awesome.
What tuning is that ?
E B E A Ab A
He's left-handed on a righty guitar so high to low I'd imagine. Ha
Very amansing
Saturn was my favorite planet, but now it’s become more of my favorite planet. That shit just turned my world upside down.
So basically just fuck with shit is what I'm getting out of this
Thall !!
God, Pro tools looks ancient
dam thas phat
His DI is the raw clean guitar? Comes direct from guitar or is coming from an real Amp ? Thers's akways a Fortin amp behind him is his videos. I did not hear his pure DI, please clerify that. Thank you
All these plugins say how great they sound but you buy them and realize you have to add 5 other plugins to it to get that good tone...I haven't found one yet that really sounds satisfactory using it alone...I also am not really great at dialing in tones for recording but it shouldn't be that hard honestly...I can dial in a real amp in a matter of seconds with no other hardware...you are really good at making these plugins work,good brutal tone... hopefully I can get there one day.
Dialing in an amp on it’s own is a completely different thing from dialing in tones for a mix. Dialing in tones to record distorted guitars is hard, because distorted guitars are the opposite of what you want in a good mix hahah. It’s even harder when you tune down.
is he mixing with headphones?
he does have headphones on when mixing, so take a guess lmao
Sounds like 8-bit charmander
The EQ for the “djent tone” is at 1k exactly my dude
Ultimate Rahab Mitzvah
Saturn trick was tasty one
sounds like those old Behringer modelling amps from mid 2000s
What key?
Why not just download the tse tube screamer pedal vst rather than loading the entire tse suite?
Why have multiple guitars instead of just one? Why have multiple instruments that fill up similar frequencies to guitar instead of just guitar? Sure, he only needs the tube screamer here in this specific instance, but there's not really any point to NOT having more options, and they can always come in handy, especially on other projects :P
Antisocial Networking not really the same as having two guitars lol it’s a waste of memory running the entire suite instead of the much smaller single pedal. If he was running 3-4 guitar busses it doesn’t make sense to run the full suite on each. Unless as you said he wants the other options...but those other options are: the amp sim (which pales to the fortin by miles), effects which are so-so from tse, and more IRs which he doesn’t need so I don’t really know what other options you’re buying. It’s simply inefficient imo.
I think he's doing it in parallel, so he has like 50% clean DI, 50% with the pedal, and he doesn't have to do anything else to the signal chain to get that
August Desmond oh really? Didn’t catch that he was trying to use 50% clean...is that common for heavy (using heavy loosely in this context; just not clean/ambient) to run a partially clean signal? I thought people mostly did that for bass guitars?
@@TheCampbell254bme I know this is 8 months old but, no it's not that common, honestly this is the first time I see someone doing it, I would do the same as you did with the TSE pedal directly on the track instead of the full cab on parallel
Anyone knows the song name? I want to hear the result badly!!! Thanks
I'm pretty sure this one is Abyssal Mouth
@@JakeSaravay yes that is! Around 2.50 is the part he mixes. Thanks Jake!