The amazing thing here is that not only is Faith doing notably better against Angelus toe-to-toe than Buffy ever did, she's doing it while flying higher than a kite on the sedatives she ingested prior to the fight so that she could bait Angelus into drinking them when he bit her. She lost /deliberately/.
yeah she could have killed him several times, but realised the only way to take him down alive was to drug herslelf and let him bite her. Faith really was on the same level as buffy, the main reason she did better than buffy fighting Angelus is that Angelus knew buffy so much better and could read her like an open book, while Faith was still unpredictable to him.
@@juliankanzuki2013 yeah but didn’t angelus catch buffy off guard a couple times when she was sick not to mention buffy held back a lot until she realised she had no choice but to actually kill him.
Angelous was never good against any of the three slayers he fought - Kendra, Buffy & Faith beat him one on one - they did it without much struggle in terms of physical skill. Look how easily Kendra trapped him in that cage and how Faith almost staked him in “revelations” - Buffy held back because of her feelings before killing him at the end of season 2. I never really understood why he got his own show as such a badass fighter when he was really just a vampire serial murderer. Spike however was the fighter who enjoyed getting into fights he may not win so he had nothing to lose.
@@Elizalustof That’s because you don’t understand the character and make no effort to. Both Angel and Spike have huge body counts. Angel got his own show because his story is about redemption, change and finding hope in the face of darkness. He has his fighting skills because Whistler trained him properly as a warrior, not to mention he had previous fighting skills from over 150 years. He’s a larger than life character whose story successfully expanded beyond the realm of the show he was created for.
@@SaraShakur94 Possibly. But she'd already gotten the lead on Tru Calling by that point and she felt she wanted to move on. And there was always the risk that FTVS might not have gone down as well as BTVS, despite the characters popularity One interesting way they could have done it might have been after the season 5 finale when Buffy sacrifices herself. The Faith spinoff could have had Faith pardoned for her crimes and return to Sunnydale as the only Slayer, the events of season 6 and 7 could have played out more or less the same in Faith season 1 and 2 and then she could have hit the road for the third season, carving her own path/story somewhere else
@@Christian_Ada1 That was the original plan for her. That she would be so consumed by grief and guilt at accidentally killing the Deputy Mayor that she took her own life. But Eliza was hugely popular and they saw opportunity to go a different direction and changed it
@@SF-wz5tz she also got a huge fanbase of inmates writing her for faith's turn to the dark side. she could have gotten a faith spinoff but chose tru calling and that bombed.
@@joanna7350 Tru Calling was decent though. Pity it didn't take off. Loved Faith, but glad they didn't do a spin off in the end. I don't think it would have worked
Faith is my favorite character and her story is amazing. I seen both of Buffy and angel and the comics books . In truth Faith is the last true slayer to be call.
Faith is my fave character I love "BTVS" series and I didn't know that Faith was also in "Angel" series... well that's a good reason to start watching it:)
I love Buffy yes but Faith was the true Warrior Survivor. Faith came from a very broken home most likely sexually abused as a child I kinda picked up on it because it takes a survivor to know a survivor without words. Buffy had a normal childhood definitely spoiled she didn’t like being a Slayer Faith reveled in it because she knew she could help people while also having power to protect herself from being hurt again. What scares Faith was Kakistos. That ugly mofo Faith Lehane is what Spider-Man is extremely relatable. I will always love Buffy but Faith is the true icon here and my live for that character is fire Thank you for helping me deal with my own trauma and rise above!!!! Eliza Dushku you are amazing!! Faith screaming no at the end I thought it was to Angelus it was to herself to stop her from dusting him
Faith is my favorite street brawl slayer. I am glad that Buffy didn't come because she would of killed Angelus again so I am happy that Faith was there to finish the job instead of Buffy.
@@ChrisSealy1997 More mature too in general. If I recall correctly, Buffy was mostly about 'kids growing up', and Angel was about 'adults dealing with life'.
@jessiehogue. I noticed it as well. More of the main cast died off in Angel than on Buffy, and you could tell how it was wearing on the characters until the final episode. It's a shame none of the Scoobies besides Andrew made any appearances during Angel season 5
Angelus character was butchered in Angel season 4, he was all flashy talk and show and no action, didn’t seem him kill one person. He was nothing like the magnificent villain portrayed in Buffy season 2. It was like two different people.
Good point.. but Angel in season 2 of buffy was a supporting character.. you can’t have the star of a super hero show go evil and start killing people :(. At least not back then.
I disagree but not trying to alter your perception. Just stating mine. 1. The anti-violence spell kept a carnage to a minimum(Lorne even has a line stating this. 2. He did do a number on Faith even though she was drugged and had been beaten by the beast. 3. Imo he definitely wasn't very different because Angelus had even more sinister lines in Angel. "I like my girls to lie still." Necrophilia joke or statement. 4. He had the entity controlling Cordy threatening to put his soul back, Team Angel trying to do the same, & his reaction to figuring out Faith was the slayer in town speaks volumes. 5. I'm sure there's differences but to say two different people is a stretch for me. Different styles or intentions of the writing, differences in circumstances for the character, also S4 was a mess because Charisma hiding her pregnancy altered the storyline I read.
Sometimes I think they should have just put Angel out of his misery. The first time Willow restored his soul, she said she was pulling it from "the Ether". If I'm correct, according to every reference I've heard to such a place in any lore, that would mean Angel's soul is at peace when it is removed from his body by his curse. It isn't suffering nor does it feel pleasure; it is completely unconscious. Bringing him back not only puts him at risk of losing his soul again, leaving Angelus free to hurt people, but it also forces him to live with the guilt and shame of the things Angelus did. Angel shouldn't have to live with that guilt, because he is not responsible for what Angelus does. They are two different entities, only sharing a mind and body _when_ they occupy the same mind and body. Angel's quest for redemption is futile, no matter what he does, because those were not his crimes to make amends for. But I understand that he can't help it, because as long as he shares a mind with Angelus, those experiences are as personal to him as his own. They should have probably killed Angelus, but then again, the world is safer with Angel alive.
I'm pretty sure until his prophecy was fulfilled, if he died, he would've went to hell. Remember when Spike was a ghost he told Fred he was gettin taken to hell even though he helped saved the world. It's like their karma credits are so low from all the atrocities they committed they'll never avoid hell.
Which is so weird in vampire lore, because I agree the human is taken over by a demon. The demon should go to hell, not the humans. And it’s so sad that slayers kill humans who areTaken over by demons instead of finding ways to cure them of vampirism (if it had been possible).
@@jpierce8148 you can't cure a dead man. Vampires kill people and take over the bodies left behind. Removing a demon won't bring dead human back to life
@@jpierce8148 It actually is possible to cure vampirism according to this show. In Angel season one, Episode: I will remember you; Angels gets the blood of a Mohra demon into his system and it turns him into a human again. I really hate this episode, because it means that the slayer is doing wrong. Instead of killing vampires, they should capture these demons and use its blood to cure all vampires, that fell victim to vampires as humans... One of the few flaws of these shows tho.
He would probably turn her or kill her. Angelus likes to work alone I feel like. Like he wants to do it. I think the only people he worked with were darla, dru, and spike.
@@galactichand551 Faith only fought Angelus once and that was the 4th season of Angel. All the other times it was Angel she was fighting. Not Angelus. She didn't over power Angel when they fought in season 1. Angel was actually doing pretty well against Faith in that fight until Angel decided to stop fighting back because be realized Faith was trying to get him to kill her.
I wonder what Giles or Buffy would say if they found out they brought angelus back. You imagine the face of Buffy when they say to him that Angelus is loose.
She'd probably be BEYOND angry. Especially towards Wesley. Giles would probably chew his fellow Watcher out for doing something as stupid, dangerous and reckless as that.
Is it just me or did they show how truly powerful Slayers were on Angel compared to Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Faith in his show showed Power. So did the other Slayer Dana. Watching Faith do those inhuman jumps was awesome
@@LucasFerreira-pe5mg did be really have more of a budget ? Did they say why? Because even the fifth season when they added Spike the ratings were dropping and they had to cancel the series
@@Christian_Ada1 The budget issue seems obvious to me. Compare special effects, acrobatics, fighting choreographies, camera resolution. Angel had the advantage of being a show with cinematographic characteristics. I believe that this was also intentional on the part of the production since Angel was taking place in a metropolis and Buffy in a country town, so it would be something simpler.
@@Christian_Ada1 Buffy had switched to UPN by then, while Angel was still on The WB. Around 2002/2003 some shows on The WB seemed to receive noticable budget increases, like Charmed and Smallville, so I assume Angel got some extra $$$ too. I agree with your other comment, though; Buffy really should have been prioritised, but since it was on a different network it was out of their hands I guess.
Yes Faith is an amazing fighter. However, in regards to Buffy, I don't think she was ready or willing to kill "her lover" until Becoming part 2. Also, the high thing, may mean she doesn’t feel the pain of the blows Angelus is landing on Faith, but Faith has enough training to do this on auto-pilot. I do wish Faith had a spin-off.
One of the biggest problems I have with the Buffyverse is how weak Angelus/Angel is despite them hinting multiple times throughout both shows that Angelus is one of the strongest most evil vampires ever existed. Let's be honest here Spike is the stronger vampire than Angelus. Spike not only beats Angel on a one on one fight he also killed 2 slayers and always puts up good fights against opponants that Angelus/Angel would easily lose to like Buffy, Kendra and Faith. Angelus is just an average vampire at best which is a shame. They should've made Angelus much stronger.
What really confused me is old school Angelous was never campy and annoying - he was a terrifying serial killer vampire - somehow Angelous became a lame “comedian” over time. the Irish accent was better for Angelous.
True Buffy fans know that Faith could’ve dusted him within 5 minutes of this fight. she’s The Slayer, don’t care how great Angel/Angelus is, the chances are in Faiths favor because she’s a stronger faster more skilled fighter than him. She held back so that she could save him just like he held back to save her in season 1….which was another fight she could’ve dusted him in but she didn’t want to kill him, she wanted him to kill her.
I wouldn’t count Angel/Angelus out tho.. Faith has the strength but Angel has the experience.. he’s 240+ years old. That means he’s gone through this world as a vampire being hunter for that many years. That takes cunning and skill. Faith has never really gone up against a big bad truly on her own. In fact, she was only a slayer for 8 months before she went evil.. then she murdered humans and a couple of demons all weaker than her. When she turned good again she went to jail. Angel has fought big strong demons on his own before as well as taken on buffy a few times and faith! He has a lot of experience fighting. So if it really came down to it.. Faith strength is an advantage but Angels experience is too.. and It were to be Angelus then his ruthlessness would be another advantage.
I’m a true Buffy fan, and you’re WAY off base. Angelus is the most feared vampire in history. Aside from being 346 years old (adding the century he spent in hell), he’s also cunning, deceptive, ruthless and frighteningly fast and strong. And he’s a master at mind games. There were several points here where Angelus could have killed Faith, but he was so full of himself that he wanted to “play” with her first. If he didn’t insist on toying with his food, Faith would have been dead.
If you say you’re a true buffy fan then I’d say I share that same title and I agree with the other guy that if faith wanted to kill him he would be dead. Angelous is a bit of a legend but hardly the most feared vampire in history. The master has a better following then him not to mention spike has killed two slayers whilst angel has killed none. It’s even stated in the next episode faith is literally allowing him to win the fight in order to get him to bite her. Not to mention by the end of the fight she beat him to the ground hard whilst all this time fighting she had a tranquiliser in her blood system which shows how strong she is against angel. So had she had the intention to kill him and nothing in her blood system he would be dead quick. It’s the same as buffy in the season 2 finale. When she was fighting Angelus she was losing the fight because she was holding back waiting for willows curse to work but when she knew she couldn’t wait anymore and Angelus struck her in the face with the sword, she fought back and won the fight in under 30 seconds. So if faith wanted him dead he would be - she would have won the fight
Angelus is one of the worst recorded vampires in history. The fact he is also cunning and demoralizes to get into his victims heads indicates Angelus is a cut above and a slayer isn't guaranteed victory.
Faith has not had a good month first the Beast nearly beats her to death, then Angelus drinks her blood and they go on a weird trip then she goes back to Sunnydale and gets beaten by Caleb then she gets blown up.
Way too many movies suggest so. I accept the idea that consuming blood keeps their bodies alive so immediately after feeding, a vamp should be able to perform. Cuz the blood's effect is most fresh. But idk, there's a lot of lore and novels to read through. Just not twilight. Real vamps don't sparkle.
He took more of a beating because he knew Faith wanted to die, not win, so he did it to save her. Faith does the same thing here. Takes the blows vs risking killing Angelus/Angel.
Angel was holding back trying not to kill her, plus he had his soul. This right here was evil soulless Angelus with no care in the world. Ironic how this time Faith was the one holding back
So #Angel bites Faith and #Buffy but only bites Buffy bc she makes him drink her blood to save him. But with Faith he is Angelas and evil. I wounder if Faith was wishing she was fighting #Buffy instead...ummm #Buffy #BTVS #SMG #SBuffy #BAngel
Faiht es una cazadora Asesina y violenta eso que Buffy pudo contra ella que la pudo parar que la apuñaló y la dejo inconsciente pero con Ángel no fue igual Faiht es casi igual a Spike los 2 son casi iguales
Pero se enfrenta contra una mala bestia, si angel es más fuerte que Spike y la pelea que tuvieron faith vs spike era igualada contra angelus ni de coña podría vencer, si gana es a duras penas.
Every time Eliza is replaced by a stunt-double it is very noticeable, it makes you lose your immersion in the TV show. This way of doing the fight scenes mixing Actors and stunt doubles is terrible.
It doesn't for me, subjective statement you made..noticed stunt doubles off and on during my many viewings of the Buffyverse and never lessened anything for me. But I've seen people be bothered by it and everyone has their own preferences.
Faith fight scenes are always amazing. 💯
Yes they are.💋💋💋
@@thelegendofthem6120 I could watch em millions of times, same goes for the entire Buffyverse shows in general haha.
@@Bryseuhkenz Same! It's a great show.
@@thelegendofthem6120 Honestly, never found a show since Buffyverse that has impressed me even remotely like these!
@@Bryseuhkenz question. Aside from Buffy who is clearly number one, who do you think is the most formidable fighter out of Buffy, Angel, Spike, Faith
The amazing thing here is that not only is Faith doing notably better against Angelus toe-to-toe than Buffy ever did, she's doing it while flying higher than a kite on the sedatives she ingested prior to the fight so that she could bait Angelus into drinking them when he bit her. She lost /deliberately/.
yeah she could have killed him several times, but realised the only way to take him down alive was to drug herslelf and let him bite her. Faith really was on the same level as buffy, the main reason she did better than buffy fighting Angelus is that Angelus knew buffy so much better and could read her like an open book, while Faith was still unpredictable to him.
@@juliankanzuki2013 yeah but didn’t angelus catch buffy off guard a couple times when she was sick not to mention buffy held back a lot until she realised she had no choice but to actually kill him.
Buffy always kicked Angelus' ass. What are you talking about?
No need to compare the slayers. They are both great.
Angelous was never good against any of the three slayers he fought - Kendra, Buffy & Faith beat him one on one - they did it without much struggle in terms of physical skill. Look how easily Kendra trapped him in that cage and how Faith almost staked him in “revelations” - Buffy held back because of her feelings before killing him at the end of season 2. I never really understood why he got his own show as such a badass fighter when he was really just a vampire serial murderer. Spike however was the fighter who enjoyed getting into fights he may not win so he had nothing to lose.
@@Elizalustof That’s because you don’t understand the character and make no effort to. Both Angel and Spike have huge body counts.
Angel got his own show because his story is about redemption, change and finding hope in the face of darkness. He has his fighting skills because Whistler trained him properly as a warrior, not to mention he had previous fighting skills from over 150 years. He’s a larger than life character whose story successfully expanded beyond the realm of the show he was created for.
“Good over evil do what must be done” he is so fun to watch.
I love when he says Good old Wes you can always rely on him to make a bad situation worse.
Faith deserved her own show
Eliza was offered a spin-off but she turned it down
@@SF-wz5tz huge mistake
@@SaraShakur94 Possibly. But she'd already gotten the lead on Tru Calling by that point and she felt she wanted to move on. And there was always the risk that FTVS might not have gone down as well as BTVS, despite the characters popularity
One interesting way they could have done it might have been after the season 5 finale when Buffy sacrifices herself. The Faith spinoff could have had Faith pardoned for her crimes and return to Sunnydale as the only Slayer, the events of season 6 and 7 could have played out more or less the same in Faith season 1 and 2 and then she could have hit the road for the third season, carving her own path/story somewhere else
Willow was the one who deserved a show.
@@Alexander-mn6iv I'm not sure about Willow. I'm sure it could have worked but she didn't have that presence that's needed to lead a series
Good thing Joss realized how big Faith would be in the franchise. She was going to be killed off by suicide in season 3 of Buffy.
Are you serious? Where you read that at?
@@Christian_Ada1 That was the original plan for her. That she would be so consumed by grief and guilt at accidentally killing the Deputy Mayor that she took her own life. But Eliza was hugely popular and they saw opportunity to go a different direction and changed it
Oof thank goodness cause she's the best
@@SF-wz5tz she also got a huge fanbase of inmates writing her for faith's turn to the dark side. she could have gotten a faith spinoff but chose tru calling and that bombed.
@@joanna7350 Tru Calling was decent though. Pity it didn't take off. Loved Faith, but glad they didn't do a spin off in the end. I don't think it would have worked
Faith is my favorite character and her story is amazing. I seen both of Buffy and angel and the comics books . In truth Faith is the last true slayer to be call.
No.. there are other slayers that were called
@@benjaminreyes3624 Faith is the last slayer to be called using the traditional method.
@@wiseguy01 yes she is you're correct. However in the comics the powers becomes dormant again until centuries later and another is called
@@benjaminreyes3624 yes. But she still was the last
She a redeemed true slayer
Faith is such a great fighter! And her use of super jumps iconic
Eliza did a lot more stuntwork then Sarah its been known for a long time😊
Angelus was a great villain.
I just noticed the callback to the Faith vs Buffy fight from s4 at the end. Excellent visual storytelling.
Season 4?
@@AndrewSmith-pn2qcyep when they switched bodies
@chaseeferll2034 oh. And when does the call back happen exactly?
@@AndrewSmith-pn2qc I don't remember mate. It's been a year since I made that comment. I'd have to watch both again
I love angelus in this show hes so entertaining everything he says too is hilarious
This season gets a lot of heat but everything wtih Faith, The Beast and Angelus is great
“Save the head trip, GQ” Love it! 😂
Faith is my fave character I love "BTVS" series and I didn't know that Faith was also in "Angel" series... well that's a good reason to start watching it:)
I love Buffy yes but Faith was the true Warrior Survivor.
Faith came from a very broken home most likely sexually abused as a child I kinda picked up on it because it takes a survivor to know a survivor without words.
Buffy had a normal childhood definitely spoiled she didn’t like being a Slayer Faith reveled in it because she knew she could help people while also having power to protect herself from being hurt again. What scares Faith was Kakistos. That ugly mofo
Faith Lehane is what Spider-Man is extremely relatable.
I will always love Buffy but Faith is the true icon here and my live for that character is fire
Thank you for helping me deal with my own trauma and rise above!!!! Eliza Dushku you are amazing!!
Faith screaming no at the end I thought it was to Angelus it was to herself to stop her from dusting him
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I love the trash talks when the big fights happen
Faith is my favorite street brawl slayer. I am glad that Buffy didn't come because she would of killed Angelus again so I am happy that Faith was there to finish the job instead of Buffy.
Angelus is fucking hilarious 😂
same with red kryptonite clark from smallvile 😆
@@shadowwolf6028 That's a good comparison
@@joec7217 there very similar probably cause there always alike saying am I supposed to be scared old man or slayer😱😂
@@joec7217 Bullets don't really do anything to them.Saying things like that tickles so yeah very similar.🤣😂
@@shadowwolf6028 Came out at around the same time too
This fight was so intense it made the entire season 18 rated instead of 15 in a lot of parts of the world.
Angel was a much more brutal show compared to Buffy
@@ChrisSealy1997 More mature too in general. If I recall correctly, Buffy was mostly about 'kids growing up', and Angel was about 'adults dealing with life'.
@jessiehogue. I noticed it as well. More of the main cast died off in Angel than on Buffy, and you could tell how it was wearing on the characters until the final episode. It's a shame none of the Scoobies besides Andrew made any appearances during Angel season 5
Angelus character was butchered in Angel season 4, he was all flashy talk and show and no action, didn’t seem him kill one person. He was nothing like the magnificent villain portrayed in Buffy season 2. It was like two different people.
Good point.. but Angel in season 2 of buffy was a supporting character.. you can’t have the star of a super hero show go evil and start killing people :(. At least not back then.
I disagree but not trying to alter your perception. Just stating mine.
1. The anti-violence spell kept a carnage to a minimum(Lorne even has a line stating this.
2. He did do a number on Faith even though she was drugged and had been beaten by the beast.
3. Imo he definitely wasn't very different because Angelus had even more sinister lines in Angel. "I like my girls to lie still." Necrophilia joke or statement.
4. He had the entity controlling Cordy threatening to put his soul back, Team Angel trying to do the same, & his reaction to figuring out Faith was the slayer in town speaks volumes.
5. I'm sure there's differences but to say two different people is a stretch for me. Different styles or intentions of the writing, differences in circumstances for the character, also S4 was a mess because Charisma hiding her pregnancy altered the storyline I read.
Finally. Someone who also realized this. This Angelus is nothing like the early creepy one.
@@rigmarhaynes4197 I agree too. He spoke too much as well.
Angelus and Angel are two different personalities in the same body.
Sometimes I think they should have just put Angel out of his misery.
The first time Willow restored his soul, she said she was pulling it from "the Ether". If I'm correct, according to every reference I've heard to such a place in any lore, that would mean Angel's soul is at peace when it is removed from his body by his curse. It isn't suffering nor does it feel pleasure; it is completely unconscious.
Bringing him back not only puts him at risk of losing his soul again, leaving Angelus free to hurt people, but it also forces him to live with the guilt and shame of the things Angelus did. Angel shouldn't have to live with that guilt, because he is not responsible for what Angelus does. They are two different entities, only sharing a mind and body _when_ they occupy the same mind and body.
Angel's quest for redemption is futile, no matter what he does, because those were not his crimes to make amends for. But I understand that he can't help it, because as long as he shares a mind with Angelus, those experiences are as personal to him as his own.
They should have probably killed Angelus, but then again, the world is safer with Angel alive.
I'm pretty sure until his prophecy was fulfilled, if he died, he would've went to hell. Remember when Spike was a ghost he told Fred he was gettin taken to hell even though he helped saved the world. It's like their karma credits are so low from all the atrocities they committed they'll never avoid hell.
Which is so weird in vampire lore, because I agree the human is taken over by a demon. The demon should go to hell, not the humans. And it’s so sad that slayers kill humans who areTaken over by demons instead of finding ways to cure them of vampirism (if it had been possible).
@@jpierce8148 you can't cure a dead man. Vampires kill people and take over the bodies left behind. Removing a demon won't bring dead human back to life
@@jpierce8148 It actually is possible to cure vampirism according to this show. In Angel season one, Episode: I will remember you; Angels gets the blood of a Mohra demon into his system and it turns him into a human again.
I really hate this episode, because it means that the slayer is doing wrong. Instead of killing vampires, they should capture these demons and use its blood to cure all vampires, that fell victim to vampires as humans...
One of the few flaws of these shows tho.
@@toelielariouspinda355 In the comics Angel did become Human again for a short time until he was kill and brought back by the Senior Partners.
The choreography was very good, but certainly the one who most made Faith's hits was her stunt double.
If Angelous met Faith when she was evil, they probably would have became friends. He might have made Faith more evil than she already was
He would probably turn her or kill her. Angelus likes to work alone I feel like. Like he wants to do it. I think the only people he worked with were darla, dru, and spike.
Or he might have just killed her.
@@julia.herz_Not really. In flashbacks we saw Angelus work with other vampires before. Spike, Darla, Drusella and he worked with other vampires too.
Faith would’ve dusted him. In every Faith vs Angel fight, she overpowers him. Beginning in Buffy season 3 when Buffy had to save him from her stake.
@@galactichand551 Faith only fought Angelus once and that was the 4th season of Angel. All the other times it was Angel she was fighting. Not Angelus. She didn't over power Angel when they fought in season 1. Angel was actually doing pretty well against Faith in that fight until Angel decided to stop fighting back because be realized Faith was trying to get him to kill her.
"You never used to bleed so easy"
He sounds like Chucky
I wonder what Giles or Buffy would say if they found out they brought angelus back. You imagine the face of Buffy when they say to him that Angelus is loose.
She'd probably be BEYOND angry. Especially towards Wesley. Giles would probably chew his fellow Watcher out for doing something as stupid, dangerous and reckless as that.
@@capeck1993 I would have liked the look on Buffy's face in season 7, when Faith told her that she had just come from facing Angelus.
@@capeck1993 I can't imagine Buffy's face when Faith tells her that she's coming from Los Angeles to face Angelus.
Surprised faith made no reference about Angelus when returning to Sunnydale
@@chrispeplinski7306 I would have liked to see the look on Buffy's face when Faith told her that she stood up to Angelus
Fangel And Fangelus had good scenes
His end game wasnt to kill her it was for transform her into vampire and be Darla 2!
Imagine how this scene would be if buffy was in the mix
Is it just me or did they show how truly powerful Slayers were on Angel compared to Buffy the Vampire Slayer?
Faith in his show showed Power. So did the other Slayer Dana.
Watching Faith do those inhuman jumps was awesome
Angel has more budget and technology compared to buffy
@@LucasFerreira-pe5mg did be really have more of a budget ? Did they say why? Because even the fifth season when they added Spike the ratings were dropping and they had to cancel the series
@@Christian_Ada1 The budget issue seems obvious to me. Compare special effects, acrobatics, fighting choreographies, camera resolution. Angel had the advantage of being a show with cinematographic characteristics. I believe that this was also intentional on the part of the production since Angel was taking place in a metropolis and Buffy in a country town, so it would be something simpler.
@@LucasFerreira-pe5mg it seems kinda wrong to me to spend more money on a spin-off while the original series suffers in effects because of the budget
@@Christian_Ada1 Buffy had switched to UPN by then, while Angel was still on The WB. Around 2002/2003 some shows on The WB seemed to receive noticable budget increases, like Charmed and Smallville, so I assume Angel got some extra $$$ too. I agree with your other comment, though; Buffy really should have been prioritised, but since it was on a different network it was out of their hands I guess.
Yes Faith is an amazing fighter. However, in regards to Buffy, I don't think she was ready or willing to kill "her lover" until Becoming part 2. Also, the high thing, may mean she doesn’t feel the pain of the blows Angelus is landing on Faith, but Faith has enough training to do this on auto-pilot. I do wish Faith had a spin-off.
One of the biggest problems I have with the Buffyverse is how weak Angelus/Angel is despite them hinting multiple times throughout both shows that Angelus is one of the strongest most evil vampires ever existed. Let's be honest here Spike is the stronger vampire than Angelus. Spike not only beats Angel on a one on one fight he also killed 2 slayers and always puts up good fights against opponants that Angelus/Angel would easily lose to like Buffy, Kendra and Faith. Angelus is just an average vampire at best which is a shame. They should've made Angelus much stronger.
actually a decent villain scene overall, fair enough angelus season 4
Brilliant 😀
No offence but I've watched buffy and Angel over and over and I prefer Faith over Buffy my top three characters
Faith
Anya
Darla
What really confused me is old school Angelous was never campy and annoying - he was a terrifying serial killer vampire - somehow Angelous became a lame “comedian” over time. the Irish accent was better for Angelous.
Top 6 characters in angel,
6~ spike
5~ Lorne
4~ cordi season 1,2,3,5
3~ angel
2~ Wesley
1~ Angelus
where's Doyle???
True Buffy fans know that Faith could’ve dusted him within 5 minutes of this fight. she’s The Slayer, don’t care how great Angel/Angelus is, the chances are in Faiths favor because she’s a stronger faster more skilled fighter than him. She held back so that she could save him just like he held back to save her in season 1….which was another fight she could’ve dusted him in but she didn’t want to kill him, she wanted him to kill her.
She's also high as a kite because of the Orpheus she took to make Angelus fall into a metaphysical coma.
I wouldn’t count Angel/Angelus out tho.. Faith has the strength but Angel has the experience.. he’s 240+ years old. That means he’s gone through this world as a vampire being hunter for that many years. That takes cunning and skill. Faith has never really gone up against a big bad truly on her own. In fact, she was only a slayer for 8 months before she went evil.. then she murdered humans and a couple of demons all weaker than her. When she turned good again she went to jail. Angel has fought big strong demons on his own before as well as taken on buffy a few times and faith! He has a lot of experience fighting. So if it really came down to it.. Faith strength is an advantage but Angels experience is too.. and It were to be Angelus then his ruthlessness would be another advantage.
I’m a true Buffy fan, and you’re WAY off base. Angelus is the most feared vampire in history. Aside from being 346 years old (adding the century he spent in hell), he’s also cunning, deceptive, ruthless and frighteningly fast and strong. And he’s a master at mind games. There were several points here where Angelus could have killed Faith, but he was so full of himself that he wanted to “play” with her first. If he didn’t insist on toying with his food, Faith would have been dead.
If you say you’re a true buffy fan then I’d say I share that same title and I agree with the other guy that if faith wanted to kill him he would be dead.
Angelous is a bit of a legend but hardly the most feared vampire in history. The master has a better following then him not to mention spike has killed two slayers whilst angel has killed none. It’s even stated in the next episode faith is literally allowing him to win the fight in order to get him to bite her. Not to mention by the end of the fight she beat him to the ground hard whilst all this time fighting she had a tranquiliser in her blood system which shows how strong she is against angel. So had she had the intention to kill him and nothing in her blood system he would be dead quick.
It’s the same as buffy in the season 2 finale.
When she was fighting Angelus she was losing the fight because she was holding back waiting for willows curse to work but when she knew she couldn’t wait anymore and Angelus struck her in the face with the sword, she fought back and won the fight in under 30 seconds.
So if faith wanted him dead he would be - she would have won the fight
Angelus is one of the worst recorded vampires in history. The fact he is also cunning and demoralizes to get into his victims heads indicates Angelus is a cut above and a slayer isn't guaranteed victory.
Connor can't beat Faith because he couldn't get no punch in except for that cheap shot. At least Angelus got some punches and kicks on Faith.
Faith has not had a good month first the Beast nearly beats her to death, then Angelus drinks her blood and they go on a weird trip then she goes back to Sunnydale and gets beaten by Caleb then she gets blown up.
And yet she survived all of that.Sit down.
You think Buffy wouldn't have gotten nearly beat to death by The Beast?
Now this is a tv series
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How strong slayer is?
0:36 I know that's a necrophilia joke, but can vampires commit necrophilia (Seeing how they are dead) ?
Huh. Interesting point.
Way too many movies suggest so. I accept the idea that consuming blood keeps their bodies alive so immediately after feeding, a vamp should be able to perform. Cuz the blood's effect is most fresh. But idk, there's a lot of lore and novels to read through. Just not twilight. Real vamps don't sparkle.
faith was drug!!
how does he destroy faith in this fight but was struggling big time against her when they fought in s1?
He took more of a beating because he knew Faith wanted to die, not win, so he did it to save her. Faith does the same thing here. Takes the blows vs risking killing Angelus/Angel.
@@Bryseuhkenz thanks!
Such devoted friendship
Her intention wasn't to kill him it was to get him to feed on her so he would go into that dream world with her.
Angel was holding back trying not to kill her, plus he had his soul. This right here was evil soulless Angelus with no care in the world. Ironic how this time Faith was the one holding back
God i loved this show. The ending was so bad tho
So #Angel bites Faith and #Buffy but only bites Buffy bc she makes him drink her blood to save him. But with Faith he is Angelas and evil. I wounder if Faith was wishing she was fighting #Buffy instead...ummm
#Buffy #BTVS #SMG #SBuffy #BAngel
Faiht es una cazadora Asesina y violenta eso que Buffy pudo contra ella que la pudo parar que la apuñaló y la dejo inconsciente pero con Ángel no fue igual Faiht es casi igual a Spike los 2 son casi iguales
Pero se enfrenta contra una mala bestia, si angel es más fuerte que Spike y la pelea que tuvieron faith vs spike era igualada contra angelus ni de coña podría vencer, si gana es a duras penas.
Why does Angel sound like Scooby Doo?
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Every time Eliza is replaced by a stunt-double it is very noticeable, it makes you lose your immersion in the TV show. This way of doing the fight scenes mixing Actors and stunt doubles is terrible.
It doesn't for me, subjective statement you made..noticed stunt doubles off and on during my many viewings of the Buffyverse and never lessened anything for me. But I've seen people be bothered by it and everyone has their own preferences.
non è angel...ma ANGELUS