Is This Unfair For The BASS?
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I’ve been doing this for about 2 years. I keep my force trolling motor down and can view my scope from the seat while turning the force trolling motor with the remote. I initially did it when I got stuck in some shallow water and was trying to find a deep path out. On the river you will see metal transducer poles hanging off the front of barges. They are doing the same thing with traditional sonar
I hope the Game and Freshwater Commission have started restocking the lakes to keep up with what’s going to happen
Good Luck Kyle
They definitely need to restock crappie. I don’t see them surviving this technology
@@KyleWelcher if all the lazy people will get out and do a couple of work days on the lakes we should be fine. Build some habits and put them out. What pole are you using at the helm?
@@KyleWelcher Thank the lord Crappie spawn more often than other fish (2-3 times a year)
I'm 83 so not far away from sitting at the console. Looks like a fun, productive way to fish.
I can think of a few places that would be useful to avoid idling over stumps when you're in thick timber, to say nothing of scanning areas while on the move. I want one.
Saw your truck and trailer at the ramp the other night and you were the last to get off the lake. It was dark and you were still out there on the water. Thats why you won AOY, because your hard work payed off. Keep it up Kyle.
Scoping is alot of fun ! I was listen to the st.clair event at work over the summer and after hearing there she is.. bite my bait and then drag just rippin.. i legit just stoped working and purchased licescope and probably one of the best tools ive ever put on my boat to help me catch more fish! Keep up the hard work and good luck on the up coming year man !
The sniper pole is elite
Absolutely! Not to mention that I couldn’t care less about fishing that way. When you see them like that it cant possibly be as exciting as not seeing them. I honestly can’t help but want one to fill my deep freeze with crappie. That’s what a ton of dudes do. Id bet good money that you filet a few out yourself.
I know my way around “small lil local lakes”. 🤣🤣🤣 Never gets old. I got an idea. Every video throw in one “small lil local lake”. First person to comment the time the phrase was used they get some free merch or somethin. Lol!!
Invaluable Kyle, no matter how well you know your home lake and where they are when you can't find them, they can't hide from that technology. Wouldn't work too well for me as I have to get two to three thousand casts in per day even though I'm hauling water most of the time. Thanks Kyle for another great video.
I appreciate the tutorial. I love to fish for bass, but I also love to fish for other species. I’m still learning FFS, so this video was very helpful.
That's cool as heck Kyle.. I've heard the Japanese anglers have been "troll-scoping" for a while now..
Team Welcher! Gotta do what you gotta do Kyle! Times are a changing! Cant wait to see the new boat! ! Ill see you at grand lake! Coming down from Mo.
Come on down. It’s gonna be a good time
That’s cool brother
I like that...ive just been leaving my trolling motor down and have my graphs linked so i can see it at the console and drive and look.
That’s the OG way
@@KyleWelcherthe poor mans way 😂...it works tho
Sure makes practice a lot easier to find the biomass in the area. Helps to win AOY to help pay for that setup 😉. Good luck with it
Kyle thanks for sharing, Bass I sure hope you're watching...👍
That right
I dont understand how anyone can say this isnt fun. Im not even doing the fishing and it looks fun. As for the people that say the fish just jump in the boat once you get thats crap. I have it and actually caught less fish bc im always chasing the fish on the screen. Trust there is a huge learning curve with this technology.
Lead the way AOY! Great content as always, two thumbs up!
Man them units are good enough to show a little red truck haulin a Christmas tree. Those stripe are fun to catch for sure. #TeamWelcher
That’s hilarious
As a professional trader I recognize that app logo .... i bull, you bull, webull. Fishing is fun but so is the risk curve. Cheers!
Luckily there are no white bass or stripes in my little local lake but we do get crappie, catfish and a few walleye while scoping for bass. Fun way to fish! Good video Kyle! That turret system is awesome
It is awesome! A lake can flourish without the silversides
If that device with the arrow on it
was connected to Aqua - Vu
And get rid of the under water
cable down to the fish camera
Might be awesome
all good ! keep on keeping on .
Lol 😂 it really is spot lighting.....😂😂
Let's Go WelcheR!!
Let’s go
That fish she had on your Screensaver was good 1..
I knew they swam continuously but i didn't think they swam that fast! you had that trolling motor smoking.
They always seem to move over 2 miles an hour
Boy i like that. I've got livescope but dont like using it on the front because im a power fisherman and dont like scoping bass, but love crappie. I bought the pole system that ott pushes, cant think of it off hand something zilla, but i could put it like that and hammer crappie and find bait and brush while side scanning ❤
It’s good in those situations for sure
Striper are 1 of if not the only freshwater game fish that must keep swimming to use the gills. All other have gills that can pull water but stipers don't
I didn’t know that
Kyle, why the Garmin up front? why did you pick it over the Lowrance. Interesting that you have an additional unit on the driver side using HDS.
Keep up the good work man!
I think it’s very cool and a unique idea, but I’m not sure how practical it would be throughout a tournament day. Definitely looks legit for crappie fishing or fishing slowly. Maybe would be best to use during practice then take it off during tournaments. I know it would see some at small local pond on hwy 48 right now!
It would see hundreds over there. I agree it’s a better practice tool
No, people have gotten so good at it they just stare at the screen and can pitch baits to within inches of a fishes mouth. Pretty wild stuff
Dude, I feel better now. My spinning reels get stuck together like that as well!! 😂 Looking forward to following you this year on elites. Good luck!!
Are you able to run around on pad with that thing deployed? If not, do you have a way to easily deploy it?
22:13 is the shot... pretty impressive electronics man! 🤙🦀🌴
Thank you!
Great video K DUB. Tell Hunter that Amy an I says HI. Hopeing y'all are enjoying the Holidays and still soaking up what a Awesome year you had. Knuckles..
Thank you! I’ll tell her
YES.
Background photo on phone is on point
The thing I would worry about is people running into each other by watching the screen and moving around in a tournament
I feel that a naturally gifted pre scope angler such as yourself gets robbed in the current era we find ourselves in......that said you're one of the best scopers in the game so you've adapted, but again I feel your true self and talent shine the brightest when you are power fishing a swimjig to juicy visual spots.
I have thought about that. The entire groundwork I set for myself is now only a way to compete for checks. I feel like I came on the scene 10 years to late
Randy blockhead gonna have a stroke 😂
Call an ambulance
Omg thats hilarious fellas!
Chasing Hybirds, stripes & crappie blast with Livescope. They are hard to keep up with. Was at West PT yesterday.
Stripes and hybrids are so much fun to catch. Two months ago on Hardin the ol jerk baits were tearing them up.
Game Department’s are way behind on this and Limit’s were not reduced massively ! I’m just pissed I can not use Dynamite ! Oh that would be an Unfair advantage and destroy the fishery. Think.
That would be a good co-Angler gadget
Oh you a bad boy only the champ would do that. Respect player
Thats right
Just got Live scope and not had chance to take it out yet very informative Thanks Bro
Love my Garmin LVS34... great tool to search for offshore structure also.
What settings for Gain and Color Gain were you using?
Hope you and Hunter and your new little fishing partner had a nice Thanksgiving !!! Happy for you !!!
I change it all the time but I know I have my color gain in the mid 60s currently and regular gain at 70-72
@kylewelcher Man idk if you remember a comment I made a good while back in another video about “one day sonar being so good you could run down the lake wide open and mark fish.” I think you replied “I need that sonar.” That being said, I like your thinking on this setup here. Saving time, catching fish! 👍🏽👍🏽
I can’t quite do it running down the lake but it’s getting close
@@KyleWelcher lol right! Man if guys are gonna be running 5+ ffs transducer battleships this coming season as I’ve heard. You use whatever “tool” you have to go cave some heads in this coming year. Good luck brochacho!
This is why he won AOY.
Do you think lowrance is better than garmin for FFS?
I don’t but they are really close
I use the Motorguide Tour Pro also. What is the aftermarket piece you have added that attaches to the bounce buster to secure it to the deck? I want me one of them!
Cool video and very informative. It’s not unfair for the fish. As you stated, it’s a different skill the angler has to learn for interpreting the sonar and presenting the lure. Not everyone who can afford the tech can catch the fish.
Strongly disagree. Applying yout logic, it's fine for kids to use chat gpt to write their papers because they have to learn the right prompts to ask.
@@ETuss713 the kids who learn to master ChatGPT today will be more productive than those who don’t. Teachers that hold hold students back from mastering the future are unfair.
Technology is easy to complain about but harder to master. That applies to everything from calculators and AI to bass fishing.
Let’s see what ChatGPT has to say:
Me:
Does using forward facing sonar for bass fishing provide anglers an unfair advantage?
ChatGPT:
The use of forward-facing sonar in bass fishing can offer anglers a technological advantage by providing real-time underwater visibility. However, opinions on whether it's "unfair" vary. Some see it as a valuable tool for improving skills, while others argue it may reduce the reliance on traditional fishing knowledge. Ultimately, it's a matter of perspective within the fishing community.
I’m hearing that they are putting the salt water transducers as a additional tool, can see as far as 900 feet.
That’s crazy. I can’t cast near that far
@@KyleWelcherwould save some time on Lake Ontario looking around in all that nothing that is out there. I’d just need a 70 inch tv to read 900 feet
BASS and MLF banned the A-Rig, FFS will be next. I hope.
Me too
Kyle do you have a dedicated battery for your fish finders and ffs set up . Any info much appreciated.
My opinion is we just ride around and look for fish schools then you hen peck em till they scattered out your bird dogging not fishing. This is more like hunting than fishing but you still have to fish to get them to bite. Different sport altogether
What gear do you have (sonar and such) and how much was it? Would you buy this again? I see Lowrance and Garmin, what transducers? Whats the minimum I can have to get by with. I’m on a budget, and doing a Kayak.
Great video Kyle. Enjoy the ffs fishing. New boat coming soon?
Yessir. It’s almost ready
Do I think it's unfair to the fish. I don't care what the fish think, and I will continue to use my FFS. I like to catch fish every time I go out on my bass boat, if I didn't like catching fish, I would buy a pontoon boat. The Sniper pole, I can't see myself purchasing one. Christmas is just around the corner; screen cleaner would make great stocking stuffers. LOL!!!
Screen cleaner is crucial and I have 18 bottles everywhere except in the boat
That's a really nice rig man
Thank you!
Are you using the Kayak model using it at the console?
Yes
I don't think it is unfair. It would make me a better fisherman when I get my upgrade on my kayak.
Out of curiosity i see you have lowrance at console with garmin on bow is there reason why you didn’t go with the garmin force trolling motor ?
I have not used one much and I am comfortable with the motorguide so I chose to use it
How can you distinguish the species from that yellow dot on the screen?
What are you using at the console to search while on the big motor?
Give them boys at Sniper a Shout-out. They have spent a lot of time building that product. Looks like it is working well for you at the helm.
I am gonna put one of my float tube. What do you think?
Do it!!
Does that turret come with a strap-on for the guys who buy them?
I want it, but it shouldn’t be legal for tournaments. That is supposed to be skill not the best gadgets.
Originally i didnt like it but now i feel like its been around niw for 5 years and ive missed the boat. Doing all i can to get my boat rigged up. Someone needs to provide us regular joes with an affordable option like maybe 999.99$ for a 9 inch please.
Keep up the good videos.
Is he running Garmin and Lowarance FFS?
More swimjig and frog content
Have you ever caught a 30+ lb stripe below a dam while it's generating?
How often do you fish the local tourneys on Lake Harding thinking of hopping in a few as Harding is my home lake and I have seen your name pop up a good bit on one, just interested🤔
I fish them pretty regular. Come on out
@@KyleWelcher absolutely! Just got to get a good weather day my partner (my dad) does not like the cold🤣
What is that thing sticking out of the right side of the drivers station?
Dadgum sonar getting crazy. I have decided to go ffs as soon as i can afford it. Tell Nanna looks like i am gonna have to start an only fans page to get it done. I will expect her $9.99 a month to help me pay for it. In about 6 and half years i should have it. #justdontsuck #justgettinstarted #Nannarocks
She said she will do 9.99 plus tip 47 cents on top
Givin away your secrets!
No doubt
This should definitely not be allowed on the elite series. It's a great tool to find fish, though.
What bait were you throwing ?
Its absolutely unfortunate to say the least where tournament bass fishing is heading with ffs and new developments. I understand that to be truly competitive with AOY and classic births you have to join the crowd and use it but when does it get to the point where enough is enough. Your a good enough strictly shallow angler you would be up there with the likes of John Cox if you chose not to use it. At the same time i can tell how competitive you are and that is probably why you havent chosen to push back against it. To each their own... good luck!
Hey Kyle, have you had delaminating issues ?
Delaminating no not at all
Modern electronics are killing good fisherman
I would say it’s more ridiculous than unfair 😂! I’m not a fan of ffs technology but if it’s allowed you gotta have it to compete 🤷♂️…
Nothin' like catchin' striper's......😎😎
Their shouldn't be any sonar on any bass boat. If your a So-Callled porofessional . You don't need it.
Not much challenge in that type of fishing or sport.
Boy it helps, but boy is it unfair to the fish. I’m having to look in odd places to find fish nowadays. Pressure is tuff on them fish. Fish are becoming like an ole Tom turkey half way through turkey season, gun shy of a lot of calling. 😳👍💯
Yup, unfair. And boring, like most of the tourneys unfortunately.
I don’t disagree
@KyleWelcher wait til randy sees this video 📹 🤣
NOT Boring! The fish have evolved and so must the anglers. It is unfortunate that the cost of the new electronics has created a division in fisherman. There are those who can afford it and those who can’t. Just like $100;000 dollar bass boats, it’s a long way from the 12 foot Jon boat I learned to fish in, but that doesn’t make the expensive bass boats bad, just unaffordable for most of us.
Wait till AI is integrated. It'll tell you species, gender, weight, and what kind of bait to use. It'll be so boring. Already, I can't even watch it live.
@@user-ot4ro5gd6uhence, being able to be competitive and work up through the ranks is also impossible. Even being realistically competitive at the club level is out because of the members who CAN afford it will dominate. Making them better at using modern electronics, again creating TWO types of anglers. Those who understand ecosystems and use that knowledge to pattern bass, and those who simply idle around and “shine” that spotlight. This is why it has become a sport ONLY for the ones with fatter wallets. Either outlaw it from tournament fishing, or SEPARATE it to CONTINUE to give club and local level anglers opportunities to move up. A BASS Open and the entry for it is out of reach for many, and this is no accident! The electronics companies pressured the directors to keep steep entries, and to ensure their products would be used in every single win!
Green AMZ braid?
It’s Overwatch on the spinning rod
not familiar with Overwatch. i’m a big fan of the orange AMZ. 💪👍
Very very similar braid it’s just green and chartreuse instead. The AMZ is still my favorite
Do you ever have issues lining up your casts when you’re trying to target fish 80+ feet out? I can pretty much cast on top of fish that are within 50 feet but once they start getting out further I feel like my casts are always slightly out of the cone angle of the fish I’m looking at so once I readjust to see my bait the fish are gone
Sometimes yes. I’m super particular to make sure my stuff is super straight and also I use the motorguide and it has an arrow that’s always exact and that helps a ton
👍✌️ soldier I can understand why some people were even maybe a lot of people would call this cheating... But if it's not identified as cheating in the rule book?? Then I'm going to have to go with no it's not cheating... But we all know very well you are skating a very fine line and that's operating in that gray area that more often than not you're going to get in a lot of trouble you're going to have a lot of people complaining about it... Now granted you're not snagging 8 9/12 lb largemouth bass right before tournament hiding them in your in your live well and claiming your winning tournaments like this....... You're not sticking to 3 oz 4 oz weight on the gut of a bass and weighing him in... ✌️♨️
How fast can you idle before it's not efficient?
About 8mph is max while shooting off to the side.
8mph.. ok thanks Kyle..
Absolutely unfair, but kinda sweet!!
Nothing wrong with an unfair advantage
@@KyleWelcheras long as its legal might as well use it🤣
As cool as it is ....... do you wish you didnt ''have'' to use it ?
100%
I’m just so sick of never ending technology in bass fishing enough is enough let’s keep it fishing the ways it’s meant to be not this modern high tech sport becoming video game like.
"If it was easy everyone would do it" well-- tech made it easy, now everyone is a "fisherman" I would like to see a pro tournament with no sonar.
I got a DUB on it ..
Bet
That pure laziness
when there all gone no need for electronics,
All the crappie are gonna be gone
The reason I said that goes back to 70's when there was a migration from SE Asia to northern California, Shasta Lakes great fish population dropped considerably in five years,that's using live bait,fish didn't have a chance to grow,I think tech is here to stay,it's going to get cheaper,part of the evolution.
Bye!
Most of the people that have a problem with this have never used it. its not as easy as you think and most can't catch a fish out a paylake why do we live in a world now full of people that have to bitch and complain about everything 🤦♂️
It’s way harder than people think
This is for low skill fisherman. It is sad to see this technology promoted. It isn't cheating only because this hasn't been banned or made illegal by state fishing regulators. Though hopefully this will happen. Now, if you won "Angler of the year" with this technology an asterisk needs to be put next to that trophy. Bass pros should not brag or promote using this technology. It just reminds people you don't need that much fishing skill to catch quality fish.
Someday all you will need is knowledge of a polomar knot and have good forward facing sonar skills to be in the Elite Series. No one wants to watch that.
Has anyone here thought of the long term consequences of using forward facing sonar on our fisheries? As this technology becomes affordable and better higher fidelity everyone will have it. How is that good? Anywhere you go you can catch fish. The assault on fish stocks will suffer and most likely be depleted.
I know there are selfish people in this world who only care about themselves. Think about the future of bass fishing. What happens when every boat has this and everyone uses it to find fish? It is going to be a conservation disaster!
Also I notice a big push by the sonar companies to push this lately. They really don't like all the talk of banning this technology. Every pro posts a positive youtube video about this. Mike Iconellie had one the other day.
I'm starting to loose respect for bass pros. Bass Pros should do the right thing and stop with this forward facing sonar crap.
Kyle, Good luck with your fishing next year. Hopefully we will get to see you win Angler of the Year without using forward facing sonar. It would mean so much more if that happened.