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  • The Royal Air Force celebrates it's 100th Birthday on 1st April 2018! But why did Britain establish the RAF during The Great War?
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    ⚜ Sources ⚜
    Ian Philpott, The Birth of the RAF
    Tami Biddle, Rhetoric and Reality in Air Warfare
    Richard Overy, Birth of the RAF 1918
    Richard Overy, The Bombing War
    John Sweetman, Crucial Months for Survival
    TNA, AIR 1/718/29/9, Trenchard to Chief of the Imperial General Staff, 30 Aug 1917, quoted in Richard Overy, 2018
    TNA, MEPO 2/1622, Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917, 29 Nov 1917, pp.1,2,4. quoted in Richard Overy, 2018,

Komentáře • 105

  • @MilitaryAviationHistory
    @MilitaryAviationHistory  Před 6 lety +29

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  • @blankblank6545
    @blankblank6545 Před 6 lety +39

    I hope the lads over at the RAF have a good cup of tea in celebratory spirit!

    • @blankblank6545
      @blankblank6545 Před 6 lety +3

      wood1155 What!? Are you preposing they will drink coffee!? Disgrace!

  • @reverseshotgun721
    @reverseshotgun721 Před 6 lety +34

    Happy birthday, Brits. You’re damn good flyboys.

  • @abeherbert6603
    @abeherbert6603 Před 6 lety +42

    Well looks like I'm going to have to spend 1st April watching Battle of Britain, Dam Busters and the rest. Seems as good an excuse as any.

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  Před 6 lety +2

      Kittenstomper indeed

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt Před 6 lety

      What's the rest? I only know Battle of Britain, Dark Blue World, and Riders in the Sky (I haven't finished that one, though)

    • @durhamdavesbg4948
      @durhamdavesbg4948 Před 6 lety +1

      633 squadron

    • @hmmjedi
      @hmmjedi Před 6 lety +1

      Mosquito Squadron, Reach for the Sky (About Douglas Bader)...

    • @abeherbert6603
      @abeherbert6603 Před 6 lety

      I never knew there was a film about Douglas Bader, I'll add it to the list!

  • @Ingens_Scherz
    @Ingens_Scherz Před 4 lety +1

    This wonderful channel has the most impeccable referencing I've ever seen in essentially an amateur CZcams creation. Citing (correctly) Richard Overy, a world class historian, is just one example of how solid and reliable the research underpinning the highly enjoyable overall package is. I teach in a university these days and I'd be very happy to - in fact I will - use this channel as an example of what to do to create an academically respectable video as a coursework component option. The quality of the discourse, not to mention the production etc., is astonishing.
    Mark Felton: up your game sir!

  • @smigoltime
    @smigoltime Před 6 lety +43

    Birth of Royal Air Force? Hmmm maybe Gaijin adds a Barracuda... or Boulton Paul Defiant... or Fulmar... or who knows, but probably *SOME NEW DECALS*

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt Před 6 lety +2

      Decals don't hurt anyhing. Influx of unbalanced new aircraft does. April fools day with Camels, SE.5's, and others would be nice, though.

    • @MDPToaster
      @MDPToaster Před 6 lety +1

      Smigol Time!
      I honestly wouldn’t mind more British decals.

    • @smigoltime
      @smigoltime Před 6 lety +1

      April fools are gonna be modern jets.

  • @kimbonzky
    @kimbonzky Před 6 lety +7

    Tnx for the recent IL-2 gameplay with Bo and crew

  • @hmmjedi
    @hmmjedi Před 6 lety +11

    Great Video... for me I served in the RAF for 9 years and what day did I join 1st April 1991...

  • @julianneale6128
    @julianneale6128 Před 6 lety +1

    Fantastic video, i'd expect nothing less than you!

  • @okaro6595
    @okaro6595 Před 6 lety +2

    The Finnish air force is older, it counts its founding as March 6th 1918.

  • @canicheenrage
    @canicheenrage Před 6 lety +5

    Some mistakes, concerning the french. How surprising.
    Title's wrong: The oldest air force in the world was the french air force. The british made the first independent air force.
    "The british were the only ones among the main belligerent of ww1 to create an independant air force for the entire duration of the war[...] [Germany and France] kept their planes firmly in the hands of established service branches"
    True, if we completely leave aside la Division Aérienne.

  • @IdiotsAndASmartGuy
    @IdiotsAndASmartGuy Před 6 lety +3

    Would love to see a video on the development of ship based aviation in WW1, culminating in the launch of HMS Argus.

  • @graywolfalphaone
    @graywolfalphaone Před 6 lety +2

    love you're videos my friend. Happy good Friday eve.

  • @TheKommandanteur
    @TheKommandanteur Před 6 lety +2

    Ummmm... Bismarck, the icon at 13:51 marked: "RAF was a process, not an event" bears a disturbing similarity to a particularly infamous building...

  • @ponddipper91
    @ponddipper91 Před 6 lety +1

    Truly majestic machines

  • @neilwilson5785
    @neilwilson5785 Před 6 lety

    There's an amazing wooden seaplane ( a Supermarine Southampton, no less), in the RAF Museum at Hendon. Go see it if you can, it's a work of art, and wonderfully restored. Lots of other stuff too.

  • @USSChicago-pl2fq
    @USSChicago-pl2fq Před 6 lety +2

    As a side note today the 22 of March is the 100th anniversary of the Spring Offensive of 1918

  • @markhorton8578
    @markhorton8578 Před 6 lety +1

    "Bismark" does another superb video again.

  • @marcuswardle3180
    @marcuswardle3180 Před 4 lety +1

    I'm watching this in 2020 and I've spotted a mistake! The fiscal year starts on April 5th not 1st. It has to do with the change over from Julian to Gregorian calendars and the addition of 11 days. Ps. There was no rioting.

  • @gilesembleton5037
    @gilesembleton5037 Před 2 lety

    A very good review. A pity you did not mention the role played by the South African Jan Smuts.

  • @fazsum41
    @fazsum41 Před 6 lety +1

    I reckon you should come to the UK for RIAT bismark

  • @Aviationinmymind
    @Aviationinmymind Před 6 lety

    How about a video on the basics of aviation during 2nd ww. For example navigation, comms, meteorology, operational stuff (for example what would you do in an event of icing) and such...

  • @Cybermat47
    @Cybermat47 Před 6 lety

    Great video, as always!

  • @tinglydingle
    @tinglydingle Před 6 lety

    This "strong and stable" meme is just as funny as ever!

  • @rolland890
    @rolland890 Před 6 lety

    Got a shout out by the Great War!!!

  • @britishchap3586
    @britishchap3586 Před 6 lety

    Very nice

  • @icepikeman
    @icepikeman Před 2 lety

    Apparently the reason the RAF got the colour uniform it did is that a mill owner had created tons of cloth that colour for the Tzar of Russia for his guard regiment. So was stuck with it. So he sold it cheap to the government for the new service. 🙂

    • @timwoodman1154
      @timwoodman1154 Před rokem +1

      It was a particular shade of fat used in the Navy for dealing with infestations of crabs amongst the seamen, hence the name Crabs or Crabfat used for the RAF

  • @MrHockeycrack
    @MrHockeycrack Před 6 lety

    "Rise of Flight" is a PC/Windows simulation game, right? Looks great. Could someone tell, what might be a minimum reasonable hardware setup for that (CPU, RAM, graphics card, hard drive)?

  • @uhfnutbar1
    @uhfnutbar1 Před 6 lety

    nice video thank you watch to the end :)

  • @RollerDelayed
    @RollerDelayed Před 6 lety +2

    I'm sad you didn't use the title card I made. =[

  • @timwoodman1154
    @timwoodman1154 Před rokem

    The worlds oldest Air Force is the French Air Force inaugurated in 1908, the second oldest is the RNAS started in 1909

    • @dave4728
      @dave4728 Před 8 měsíci

      Servizio Aeronautico (Italy), founded in 1884

  • @oldgreggscreamybaileys6618

    🇬🇧 We have the oldest independent Air Force. 🇫🇮 ‘cough’ ....

    • @oldgreggscreamybaileys6618
      @oldgreggscreamybaileys6618 Před 5 lety

      Euan Cormack it’s doesn’t matter wether you win by an inch or a mile ... winnings winning.

    • @Jakemeehoff
      @Jakemeehoff Před 5 lety

      But Finland's airforce wasn't a force...no action and small, too small to brag about. You can call it what you like but Finland's airforce was as powerful, useful, as the airmail.

    • @antcommander1367
      @antcommander1367 Před 4 lety

      @@Jakemeehoff with that logic currently Côte d'Ivoire. doesn't have airforce since it has 1 helicopter (Mil Mi-24).
      NOTE: it used to have bigger airforce. until it had small conflict with france in 2004. but that's not the point

  • @punman5392
    @punman5392 Před 6 lety

    In the US the air force split from the army but the navy kept control of its own aviation

    • @Jakemeehoff
      @Jakemeehoff Před 5 lety

      Best idea with the many great Aircraft carriers having dozens of planes.

    • @matspurs1629
      @matspurs1629 Před 4 lety

      same in Britain, think the Army just has Helicopters

  • @hanfpeter3742
    @hanfpeter3742 Před 6 lety +3

    Looks like hermann göring was here

    • @vaclav_fejt
      @vaclav_fejt Před 6 lety

      High is high, doesn't matter if thanks to an Albatros D.III or heroin.

    • @hanfpeter3742
      @hanfpeter3742 Před 6 lety

      Václav Fejt well, at least he was an ace doing both. He could have also been a ball turret gunner, but that would limit the bombload snd range

    • @elixir4487
      @elixir4487 Před 6 lety

      Fatso obviously came only for the birthday cake

  • @alexanderhowlett3078
    @alexanderhowlett3078 Před 6 lety

    The link for the Independent Force video doesn't exist (I'm guessing because you haven't made the video yet?). Also, although this video, utilizing Philpott and Overy, is generally accurate, it doesn't take into account the actual rationale for creating the RAF, which was basically done for imperialist purposes. The advocates who created the RAF primarily believed that in the future the Air Force would unite the British Empire and basically replace the older services.

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  Před 6 lety

      Alexander Howlett The video with infos on the Ind. Force is the same as the Trenchard one. I just didnt know that YT would only link the same video once when I made it.

  • @josecoelho5703
    @josecoelho5703 Před 6 lety

    How do you play rise of flight so well?

  • @Sammy1234568910
    @Sammy1234568910 Před 6 lety

    a token to how shakey a start the RAF had is their blue uniforms. The colour came from Russian Tsarist uniforms which the RAF bought second hand as it couldn't afford new uniforms, and the colour has remained the same since.

    • @Aurora07
      @Aurora07 Před 6 lety

      Samuel McKittrick the material and colour was made in the UK to be shipped to Russia which would then be made into uniforms but following the revolution the material was surplus and so was brought up cheap by RAF personnel. The colour changed a few years later.

  • @keysontrains538
    @keysontrains538 Před 6 lety

    can someone please tell me what that flying boat with what appears to be a -cannon of considerable caliber is?-
    bloody huge cannon is and why?

  • @razzking
    @razzking Před 6 lety

    May I ask what WWI video game you're using in this video?

    • @MilitaryAviationHistory
      @MilitaryAviationHistory  Před 6 lety +2

      razzking Rise of Flight

    • @razzking
      @razzking Před 6 lety

      Thank you. I've been waiting for a modern WWI flight sim ever since The Red Baron stopped working in windows

  • @hinin3024
    @hinin3024 Před 6 lety

    ... But, wasn't it the French who created the first air force in history using aircrafts (in 1909 or 1910) ?
    Sorry if I'm mistaken, but it has always been what I've heard on this subject. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @hinin3024
      @hinin3024 Před 6 lety +1

      After doing a bit of research, answers came naturally : the RAF was the first independant air force in history, but not the oldest air force in general, since the French had created their air force in 1910. The Air Battalion was the first British air force, created one year later, in 1911.

  • @maciek19882
    @maciek19882 Před 6 lety

    What is the type of the striped flying boat?

  • @mackrosenbury4359
    @mackrosenbury4359 Před 6 lety

    What game is the footage from?

  • @CapitalTeeth
    @CapitalTeeth Před 6 lety

    The longest running april fools joke.

  • @noblesol6275
    @noblesol6275 Před 6 lety

    im here because of bo time

  • @joshjwillway1545
    @joshjwillway1545 Před 6 lety

    #rafbutterflysquads

  • @lukejenkinson9937
    @lukejenkinson9937 Před 6 lety

    Did you say 1919 or 1918 because it was 1918 when it was formed

  • @jonsouth1545
    @jonsouth1545 Před 6 lety +6

    in the end the creation of the RAF destroyed combined arms doctrine for a generation and even hampers it to this day it destroyed fleet air options turning the Royal Navy from the worlds premier carrier force to an also ran same issues happened with ground support and tactical forces destroying both these forces this led to multiple disasters in the first few years of WW2 that were only stopped with the effective reversal of this policy with the creation of the Army Air Corp and The Fleet Air Arm and the stripping of ground attack and maritime operations from the RAF unfortunatly a generation of talent and doctrine was lost and this crippled UK forces in the first few years of WW2

    • @alexanderhowlett3078
      @alexanderhowlett3078 Před 6 lety +1

      Yes, the creation of the RAF was a mistake that was rammed through for political reasons that had nothing to do with military necessity. The RNAS was totally destroyed by this process and every single RNAS squadron (except No. 16) was disbanded after the war.

    • @astratan2238
      @astratan2238 Před 6 lety +4

      Um, no. It is true the air support and maritime was largely ignored early on but neither of those kinds of aircraft would have saved the U.K. in the Battle of Britain, and later in the war the RAF produced some of the best strike aircraft and one of the best ground co-operation networks of any nation. The AAC deals almost solely with rotary wing assets that are not designed to control and exploit the air - the principle missions of the RAF. The FAA too became a top quality service in the late and post war, only hampered in recent years by the lack of carriers.

    • @alexanderhowlett3078
      @alexanderhowlett3078 Před 6 lety

      Tom Bravo I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Rotary wing assets in WW2? The RFC did just fine at producing air control during the First World War. There certainly was no lack of carriers in the Royal Navy at the start of the war (Furious, Glorious, Courageous, Eagle, Hermes, Ark Royal), but there was a lack of adequate carrier aircraft because the FAA got second fiddle to the RAF. The Battle of Britain being of any strategic importance at all (other than as a futile Axis blunder)? The RAF did however totally marginalize Coastal Command which produced disastrous results in the Battle of the Atlantic, as of course the RAF preferred to spend resources on the criminal strategic bombing of civilian cities.

    • @jonsouth1545
      @jonsouth1545 Před 6 lety +1

      It took 50 Liberator bombers to close the Atlantic gap if even 10% of the aircraft like Short Stirling's, Blenheim's, Wellingtons etc that were wasted over Europe had been reassigned to costal command the Battle of Atlantic would have been over in 1940/41. And considering what the FAA were able to do at Taranto a fully equipped FAA would have swept the Med clear of the Italians and thus been able to commit a decent force to the Pacific theatre at the beginning of the Pacific War probably preventing the loss of Malaya and the Dutch East Indies and preventing the Japanese from going anywhere due to lack of fuel and that is not even mentioning the thousands of fighters lost in the Rhubarb raids over France if they had been sent to the Desert or the Pacific WW2 would probably been over in 1943-44.

    • @jonsouth1545
      @jonsouth1545 Před 6 lety +2

      The Stirling would have been ideal for coastal command and they were repeatedly rebuffed in asking for it had even greater range and bomb load than the liberator (and other 4 engine bombers but due to the design of the bomb bay couldn't house the larger bombs but in ASW more smaller devices are a better option anyway as well as in the ASW role the inferior maximum altitude compared to the Lancaster and Halifax wouldn't have been an issue anyway not only that but being bigger it could fit more search equipment (something proven in 1943 when after being withdrawn from bomber command it was used very successfully to mine German ports and for electronic warfare) in it making a aircraft available in late 1940 early 41 with no to dissimilar characteristics of the very successful post war Avro-Shackleton

  • @ilhamionur
    @ilhamionur Před 6 lety +2

    RAF is not the oldest. RAF was founded in 1918.
    Turkish Airforce is founded in 1911 at the wake of Italo-Turkish War.
    German Imperial Airforce was founded in 1910. In 1918 it had the twice the number of RAF planes.

    • @StuSaville
      @StuSaville Před 6 lety +5

      Oldest *independent* air force, i.e. separate from the army and navy.

  • @erwannleligerien3771
    @erwannleligerien3771 Před 4 lety

    the world's oldest air force was the French air force (1909).

  • @jesusbrighst6155
    @jesusbrighst6155 Před 6 lety +1

    forever known as bismark

  • @KalojanGostun
    @KalojanGostun Před 6 lety

    Wasn't the RAF the "independent follower" of the RFC and the Fleet Air Arm of RNAS?

    • @chickengaming8476
      @chickengaming8476 Před 6 lety

      I had always been told, and learned from personnel at Upavon that the R.A.F blue uniform came from a requirement to be different from the uniforms of other services, they then used Crab Fat to dye the army uniforms blue (earning them the nickname “crabby” which is still used to this day)

  • @pekkamakela2566
    @pekkamakela2566 Před 6 lety +1

    Suomi mainittu, torilla tavataan!

    • @EwEs23
      @EwEs23 Před 6 lety

      I was wondering if he would mention the FAF. Hyvä me.

  • @DawnOfTheDead991
    @DawnOfTheDead991 Před 6 lety

    The army is better of controlling the air force otherwise the independent AF will ignore the ground army's needs

  • @protoreptilian7101
    @protoreptilian7101 Před 6 lety

    World oldest air force is the bulgarian air force

  • @bleh6503
    @bleh6503 Před 6 lety +1

    I'm here because squire video's are very inaccurate and full of propaganda.

  • @poodiepie527
    @poodiepie527 Před 6 lety +1

    This video is fake news! The world's oldest airforce is infact the Finnish Air Force! (founded 6th March 1918)