Thanks for the honest review! I couldn’t deal with all those coats regardless of how fast they dry. But I’m glad there is an option for people with epoxy allergies.
Thank you a whole lot I just heard it now I got to trick her into watching it again if she hasn't already watched it❤️❤️❤️❤️ Thank you and keep motivating people you're doing a wonderful job and don't let nothing stop you
I have used both. I am a former epoxy user (severe reactions made me stop) and it is a learning curve for sure. However, once you consider the time it takes to mix the epoxy up, and then babysit it to make sure there are no bubbles, I don't mind the additional coats. It is actually much less stressful for me. 2 minutes every two hours sure beats 25 - 30 to mix, apply and babysit every epoxy coat in my opinion. But everyone has their own thing and I get it. I waited until I had a reaction to try to use something different and the reason was because of the amount of coats it requires. But, honestly, once you get the hang of it, it doesn't take that many coats to get it shiny and pretty. You didn't smoosh your glitter before applying the Hyperion and that will make a BIG difference in the amount of coats it takes to get your cup smooth. Please give it another try. I, at times, still miss my epoxy, but I like the fact that I can see while I'm doing my cups now.... lol
Hi can you use Hyperion to make badge reels if so, where can I find a video to see how to do it. I also had reaction from the UV resin and need to get away from it. Any help is appreciated.
Hi Courtney, I’m the owner of W&B products and we’d love to help you get the hang of Hyperion. The first 3 coats should be flood coats with upto 20ml. After the 3rd coat you should be gentle sanding with 400 grit, then after layer 5 it would be a level sand. You should be done by layer 6/7 on a cup like this 😊
Sorry Cath, just NOW seen your comment after I posted,🤦, she needs PRO advice, lol. Just a beginner here, but am willing to learn every single trick possible per product, so thank you Courtney and thank you Cath!
I have been trying the grande finale and I like it! It is definitely different than using epoxy, but a great alternative to be able to do cups in my house during the cold weather. Come summer I will be back to epoxying in my garage because you just can’t beat epoxy in my opinion.
Ok, I’m going to give this another shot. I’ve been using HP since it was introduced in the US by Crafting with CT. First, for the first layer, you want to really work it into all the nooks & crannies. You can flood coat for the first few coats. Second, you can level sand after layer 3 or 4. Third, wet sand with 400 grit sandpaper. Fourth, I’ve found using a Taklon or fan brush soak up less product. Fifth, you can leave your brush in water between coats, but use plain water…not soapy. Lastly, please let the HP cure fully (just 10 days!) before you add epoxy. Again, your burst is beautiful! I really hope you’ll reach out to one of us who have been using the product for almost a year before you give up on it❤
Crystalac's Grand Finale dries in 2 hours and is less expensive. It gives a glass like shine clearer than epoxy. Buy their smallest container and check it out. Watch their videos and learn about it before buying it. I've been a user for 2 years. I've never used epoxy.
There's no way I would buy this product at that price and have to put so many coats of it on a tumbler and then have to turn around and buy another bottle because I've used the first one on just a few tumblers. Thank you for sharing your experience with that product.
Thank you so much for your honest review! I have been wondering about his product and was on the fence about trying it especially because of the price! Just seems like too much of a hassle to have to do so many coats. I don’t honk this is for me. But nice to know there are alternatives to epoxy.
you don't need THAT many coats and they dry so fast you're recoating before you know it. Your cup is done faster or as fast as an epoxy cup. But the shine is out of this world!
I’m really excited about this alternative. I used to be able to buy an American brand in Canada, but after Covid, they no longer distribute to businesses in Canada, and it costs an arm and a leg for shipping to Canada, so I’m hoping this works.
Hey Courtney! So I am trying the crystalac grande finale 2.0 since I kept having chest issues while using epoxy all of a sudden. I do love the epoxy finish but since I have been doin the cups in my house due to winter I might try epoxy again when I can do it in the garage. But so far, i do like the crystalac grande finale. (:
Hyperion is similar to Crystalac Grand Finale and I had the same frustrations. I work full time so I could only put a coat or 2 on a day and it was taking forever to do a cup. I also like wet sanding which you can't do and you have to wait for any spray paint, alcohol inks etc to gas off for 48 hours before you can even apply it. To finicky for me to deal with right now. I use now it as a sealer for my first coat or 2 to lessen my epoxy coats.
@@CourtneysCustoms You can't mix epoxy and Hyperion or Crystalac until they are completely cured. Crystalac takes 30 days and Hyperion 10 days. Hyperion has tested and spray paints and such only require a 2 hr gas off time with that now.
Hi Courtney. I'm a long-time (almost 2 years now) subscriber. I've been a tumbler maker for 2 years now and have always used Crytalac products. I wanted to be able to make my tumblers in my home. Not outside in a shed or garage all by myself. Could you do a review of Crystalac's Grand Finale? It too has a 2-hour dry time and is a thicker formula. If you do try it, can you please watch some of their videos to learn how to use it so as to get the best results? A quart of Grand Finale is $39.95 a gallon is $99.95. They do have other sizes as well. I do hope you'll give it a try.
I am thinking about trying this because I also do embroidery and sewing. I am having a she shed built right now so I can't have tumblers spinning and work on embroidery shirts at the same time. I work on tumblers in my husbands shop right now and the rest of my crafting is inside the house. Just now sure if I will like it because I wasn't a fan of the brite tone.
@@CourtneysCustoms I know it's a big change from epoxy that's why it makes me nervous 😆. I like being able to do a few coats and being done . I am going to get it a try and see. Thank you for being honest and I love all your videos.
Hi Courtney It is dejuan again Is my wife tove Birthday is tomorrow And in the previous Comment I made about her birthday Is a friendly reminder If you're not able I understand Thanks a lot She loves your work
I’ve wondered about Hyperion. I don’t ever see switching from epoxy but thought it may be a good alternative at times. It doesn’t seem very cost effective with How many coats would be required to achieve the same as epoxy.
I would highly recommend using the OG of epoxy free products American made, owned and manufactured CrystaLac! Glossy or matte sealants only take 2 hours to dry before the next application. It’s a great, environmentally safe alternative to epoxy. Tumbler and all other products they manufacture are much more affordable then others. I switched to a safer way to crafting using CrystaLac 3 yrs ago and won’t use anything else. Take a look at the new great products they offer and the new ones they are always inventing. Happy crafting!
How is Hyperion nontoxic? This stuff stinks and gives me a fat migraine every single time I use it. And I wear a mask. I’m so confused. I just used a epoxy that doesn’t stink nor gives me a headache.
just curious why you waited until 8 layers to sand? if you sand after the 3rd layer will help get your tumbler smoother much quicker. I know this was your first tumbler with Hyperion so I hope you'll try again, it's really an amazing product! it really should only take you half the amount of layers you used to finish this tumbler 💞
Because even after the third layer it just seemed so rough like I could still feel the glitter. I figured if I sanded I would have ruined it. I’ll try again 💜
@@CourtneysCustoms gotcha. My first 3 layers, I put on as much Hyperion as I can and it really builds up fast that way. I think you only used 10ml for the first coats so maybe up that a bit and you should be comfortable sanding after 3 layers. It will still feel rough but it won’t scratch your glitter :)
Thanks for the honest review! I personally think that the price of epoxy alternatives is too high. Even if you only use 6/7 coats that’s still a lot of product cost and extra steps compared to using epoxy.
I use crystalac Grand Finale every now and again like on my glass cups and if I had to switch over to just using that I would but I do like epoxy better it doesn't take as many coats and it's not a hassle but the grand finale only dries in about 2 hours so that's another good thing you could finish the cup within a couple of days and me having four kids it would work out better but my office is off away from the kids I know Crystal log doesn't compare completely with Hyperion but I still like crystalac better if I had to choose
The cost is high as it has to be shipped from the U.K. Unfortunately the customs and shipping costs over to the US make it so that the price increases a lot more 😳
Thanks for the honest review! I couldn’t deal with all those coats regardless of how fast they dry. But I’m glad there is an option for people with epoxy allergies.
You are so welcome! It’s definitely a great alternative if you can figure it out lol
Love the sparkle and colors!!! It’s gorgeous!!! Thank you for sharing. 💜💜💜💜
Thank you so much!💜💜💜💜
Thank you a whole lot I just heard it now I got to trick her into watching it again if she hasn't already watched it❤️❤️❤️❤️ Thank you and keep motivating people you're doing a wonderful job and don't let nothing stop you
Aww you’re so welcome!! I really appreciate it!💜
Happy Birthday🎉🎂🎉🎉🎉!!!! Love this Courtney for the "Shout-Outs!!!
Thank you 🥰
I have used both. I am a former epoxy user (severe reactions made me stop) and it is a learning curve for sure. However, once you consider the time it takes to mix the epoxy up, and then babysit it to make sure there are no bubbles, I don't mind the additional coats. It is actually much less stressful for me. 2 minutes every two hours sure beats 25 - 30 to mix, apply and babysit every epoxy coat in my opinion. But everyone has their own thing and I get it. I waited until I had a reaction to try to use something different and the reason was because of the amount of coats it requires. But, honestly, once you get the hang of it, it doesn't take that many coats to get it shiny and pretty. You didn't smoosh your glitter before applying the Hyperion and that will make a BIG difference in the amount of coats it takes to get your cup smooth. Please give it another try. I, at times, still miss my epoxy, but I like the fact that I can see while I'm doing my cups now.... lol
Hi can you use Hyperion to make badge reels if so, where can I find a video to see how to do it. I also had reaction from the UV resin and need to get away from it. Any help is appreciated.
Thank you for the review. I bought some of this a month or so ago and haven't tried it yet. Good things to know.
Glad it was helpful!
Loved how your cup of positivity suited this tutorial so well, lol😁😆
😊 thank you
🥳 Happy Birthday to our fellow tumbler maker 🎉 🎂 🥂 🥰
Courtney thank for your honest review! Sometimes you win some & Sometimes you loose some! 🥰 👍 💜
Thank you so much!!💜💜
@@CourtneysCustoms you very welcome 💜
Hi Courtney, I’m the owner of W&B products and we’d love to help you get the hang of Hyperion. The first 3 coats should be flood coats with upto 20ml. After the 3rd coat you should be gentle sanding with 400 grit, then after layer 5 it would be a level sand. You should be done by layer 6/7 on a cup like this 😊
Hi there! Thank you so much. I will definitely try again in the future
Sorry Cath, just NOW seen your comment after I posted,🤦, she needs PRO advice, lol. Just a beginner here, but am willing to learn every single trick possible per product, so thank you Courtney and thank you Cath!
After directions from Cath and her crew I got the hang of it now I can use it with confidence so don’t give in and make sure you keep a light hand
I have been trying the grande finale and I like it! It is definitely different than using epoxy, but a great alternative to be able to do cups in my house during the cold weather. Come summer I will be back to epoxying in my garage because you just can’t beat epoxy in my opinion.
That’s a great plan! I know I run our electric bill through the roof with the heaters in my shed 😂
I am excited that you are trying out Hyperion. I use it :-) I am a beginner still though!
Ok, I’m going to give this another shot. I’ve been using HP since it was introduced in the US by Crafting with CT. First, for the first layer, you want to really work it into all the nooks & crannies. You can flood coat for the first few coats. Second, you can level sand after layer 3 or 4. Third, wet sand with 400 grit sandpaper. Fourth, I’ve found using a Taklon or fan brush soak up less product. Fifth, you can leave your brush in water between coats, but use plain water…not soapy. Lastly, please let the HP cure fully (just 10 days!) before you add epoxy. Again, your burst is beautiful! I really hope you’ll reach out to one of us who have been using the product for almost a year before you give up on it❤
Hi Chrystal! Thank you so much for all of those tips! I greatly appreciate it. I will definitely try again in the future 💜
Crystalac's Grand Finale dries in 2 hours and is less expensive. It gives a glass like shine clearer than epoxy. Buy their smallest container and check it out. Watch their videos and learn about it before buying it. I've been a user for 2 years. I've never used epoxy.
There's no way I would buy this product at that price and have to put so many coats of it on a tumbler and then have to turn around and buy another bottle because I've used the first one on just a few tumblers. Thank you for sharing your experience with that product.
Yes that’s an issue too!! I just wanted to be real with my review. A lot of people do like it though!
@@CourtneysCustoms thanks for sharing ❤️
Thank you so much for your honest review! I have been wondering about his product and was on the fence about trying it especially because of the price! Just seems like too much of a hassle to have to do so many coats. I don’t honk this is for me. But nice to know there are alternatives to epoxy.
you don't need THAT many coats and they dry so fast you're recoating before you know it. Your cup is done faster or as fast as an epoxy cup. But the shine is out of this world!
I LOVE LOVE MY HP!!!! Shiny shiny
I would add some corn starch, too, to add in some thickness😁
I’m really excited about this alternative. I used to be able to buy an American brand in Canada, but after Covid, they no longer distribute to businesses in Canada, and it costs an arm and a leg for shipping to Canada, so I’m hoping this works.
Hey Courtney! So I am trying the crystalac grande finale 2.0 since I kept having chest issues while using epoxy all of a sudden. I do love the epoxy finish but since I have been doin the cups in my house due to winter I might try epoxy again when I can do it in the garage. But so far, i do like the crystalac grande finale. (:
I’ll definitely try it out! Thanks 💜
Hyperion is similar to Crystalac Grand Finale and I had the same frustrations. I work full time so I could only put a coat or 2 on a day and it was taking forever to do a cup. I also like wet sanding which you can't do and you have to wait for any spray paint, alcohol inks etc to gas off for 48 hours before you can even apply it. To finicky for me to deal with right now. I use now it as a sealer for my first coat or 2 to lessen my epoxy coats.
Yeah I’ll definitely use it to seal chunky glitter or something but the amount of coats is just too much for me
@@CourtneysCustoms You can't mix epoxy and Hyperion or Crystalac until they are completely cured. Crystalac takes 30 days and Hyperion 10 days. Hyperion has tested and spray paints and such only require a 2 hr gas off time with that now.
very pretty cup...i love that glitter on the bottom...what is it, if you don't mind my asking... Glad to see you are doing better.
Donna
I think it’s Vortex from The Glitter Grind but it’s over a pink base so it gives it an entirely different look. And thank you 💜
Hi Courtney. I'm a long-time (almost 2 years now) subscriber. I've been a tumbler maker for 2 years now and have always used Crytalac products. I wanted to be able to make my tumblers in my home. Not outside in a shed or garage all by myself. Could you do a review of Crystalac's Grand Finale? It too has a 2-hour dry time and is a thicker formula. If you do try it, can you please watch some of their videos to learn how to use it so as to get the best results? A quart of Grand Finale is $39.95 a gallon is $99.95. They do have other sizes as well. I do hope you'll give it a try.
I’ve been speaking with the owners of Crystalac and I just might give it a try!💜
I am thinking about trying this because I also do embroidery and sewing. I am having a she shed built right now so I can't have tumblers spinning and work on embroidery shirts at the same time. I work on tumblers in my husbands shop right now and the rest of my crafting is inside the house. Just now sure if I will like it because I wasn't a fan of the brite tone.
I’ve used BT & HP. I only use HP now.
Like I said this is totally just my opinion and I didn’t want to be fake with my review. A lot of people do love it!
@@CourtneysCustoms I know it's a big change from epoxy that's why it makes me nervous 😆. I like being able to do a few coats and being done . I am going to get it a try and see. Thank you for being honest and I love all your videos.
Crystalac now has a new formula that can be applied every two hrs
If I couldn’t use epoxy at all I would switch to something like this
Hi Courtney It is dejuan again Is my wife tove Birthday is tomorrow And in the previous Comment I made about her birthday Is a friendly reminder If you're not able I understand Thanks a lot She loves your work
Hi!! I gave her a shoutout in this video, has she heard it?
@@CourtneysCustoms I don't know if she's even watched it yet
@@dejuansmith623 oh lol okay! About mid way through this video I give her a birthday shoutout. I hope she loves it☺️
Is it the tutorial video and review One day ago
@@dejuansmith623 yes the Hyperion tutorial and review
I’ve wondered about Hyperion. I don’t ever see switching from epoxy but thought it may be a good alternative at times. It doesn’t seem very cost effective with How many coats would be required to achieve the same as epoxy.
That’s what I was thinking too. It’s very pricy!
Maybe just for making pens. 🤔
I would highly recommend using the OG of epoxy free products American made, owned and manufactured CrystaLac! Glossy or matte sealants only take 2 hours to dry before the next application. It’s a great, environmentally safe alternative to epoxy. Tumbler and all other products they manufacture are much more affordable then others. I switched to a safer way to crafting using CrystaLac 3 yrs ago and won’t use anything else. Take a look at the new great products they offer and the new ones they are always inventing. Happy crafting!
I have been speaking with the owners of Crystalac and I just might give it a try!💜
Courtney use Crystalac Grand Finale. You don’t use near the number of coats, there is a 2 hour dry time and is less expensive than Hyperion
How is Hyperion nontoxic? This stuff stinks and gives me a fat migraine every single time I use it. And I wear a mask. I’m so confused. I just used a epoxy that doesn’t stink nor gives me a headache.
just curious why you waited until 8 layers to sand? if you sand after the 3rd layer will help get your tumbler smoother much quicker. I know this was your first tumbler with Hyperion so I hope you'll try again, it's really an amazing product! it really should only take you half the amount of layers you used to finish this tumbler 💞
Because even after the third layer it just seemed so rough like I could still feel the glitter. I figured if I sanded I would have ruined it. I’ll try again 💜
@@CourtneysCustoms gotcha. My first 3 layers, I put on as much Hyperion as I can and it really builds up fast that way. I think you only used 10ml for the first coats so maybe up that a bit and you should be comfortable sanding after 3 layers. It will still feel rough but it won’t scratch your glitter :)
@@bettercallmollcraftshop I will absolutely try that. Thank you so much 💜
Thanks for the honest review! I personally think that the price of epoxy alternatives is too high. Even if you only use 6/7 coats that’s still a lot of product cost and extra steps compared to using epoxy.
Totally agree
I've been using Crystalac Grand Finale and it is awesome. You should give it a try.
I definitely will!
With Grand Finale, do you get orange peel look and/or streaks , I get them when I use Brite Tone
I don't. But it is a totally different process than expoxy
I use crystalac Grand Finale every now and again like on my glass cups and if I had to switch over to just using that I would but I do like epoxy better it doesn't take as many coats and it's not a hassle but the grand finale only dries in about 2 hours so that's another good thing you could finish the cup within a couple of days and me having four kids it would work out better but my office is off away from the kids I know Crystal log doesn't compare completely with Hyperion but I still like crystalac better if I had to choose
I wonder if you can "flood coat" with Hyperion, then Fast-Set???
I added a coat of mod podge over it and added epoxy. This morning it looks great!
Why are the “healthier” versions so darned expensive? That eliminates alternatives for some.
I totally agree. It’s very pricy
Just about everything that is “healthier” is more expensive. Bc they know consumers will pay the price bc it’s “healthier.”
The cost is high as it has to be shipped from the U.K.
Unfortunately the customs and shipping costs over to the US make it so that the price increases a lot more 😳
It’s not just this specific brand. Brite Tone isn’t really any cheaper, and that IS made here in the US.
I tried it it’s too expensive to buy again. 20 ml for flood coats is ALOT!!
I like the shine but goodness that's alot
Yes it is
Why so many coats? Is it not all that thick?
It doesn’t seem to be
It’s pretty shiny though
It is, but not as glass like as epoxy
Ain't nobody got time for that!
It’s a process for sure lol
How are you feeling today
I’m doing good!
Yea to much for me, I’ve seen this product before and said heck no don’t have the time for that. Same with Crystal lac, to watery
I gave it a shot lol!