The MIXOLYDIAN Mode is Really Kind of Goofy

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  • čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
  • Of all the major modes, Mixolydian carries a uniquely lighthearted spirit. In this video I go through some examples of this in games, talk a little bit about what the mode isn't, and then take a look at one of the less lighthearted aspects of the scale. Enjoy!
    0:00 - Introduction
    0:35 - What's the Mixolydian Mode
    1:48 - The I-bVII vamp
    5:48 - What the Mixolydian Mode isn't
    8:47 - Not Always Goofy: The minor v
    10:45 - Outro
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Komentáře • 518

  • @beatrixlivesey-stephens1892

    "We're here to catch magic rats, not fall in love in the Italian countryside" had me DYING

    • @cmdraftbrn
      @cmdraftbrn Před rokem +24

      as we send children off into the countryside with either a water turtle, fire lizard, or a plant.

    • @huhneat1076
      @huhneat1076 Před rokem +3

      I was about to quote this same thing

    • @awp81
      @awp81 Před rokem +3

      Same here. I'm still laughing about it as I comment.

    • @tyrrhus5248
      @tyrrhus5248 Před rokem +3

      Yeah someone didn't like movie 4

    • @BrazillianCara
      @BrazillianCara Před rokem +7

      This line may become funnier when they eventually release a Pokémon game(s) in a region based on Italy.

  • @sharpphilip
    @sharpphilip Před rokem +267

    The David Bennett reference made me chuckle. I hope you’re buddies!

    • @BlueMeeple
      @BlueMeeple Před rokem +9

      This! It was an instant like to the video. xD

    • @TheBassPanda
      @TheBassPanda Před rokem

      Missed it somehow; where is it ?

    • @Taylurrrrrrr
      @Taylurrrrrrr Před rokem +4

      @@TheBassPanda 0:23

    • @nathandorsey9145
      @nathandorsey9145 Před rokem +12

      I think they've been on one or more "5 composers do X" videos together at least.

    • @swill6500
      @swill6500 Před rokem +6

      definitely a vicious storied history of hatred between the two channels lol

  • @emilywebzone
    @emilywebzone Před rokem +514

    I think mixolydian and more generally the bVII-I cadence is used in video game music in a more general sense to evoke a feeling of confidence. Sometimes that is juxtaposed with an absurd cartoonish scenario which makes it come across as a bit silly, but that's all it is, the context surrounding the confidence. To me the sound on its own feels much more boisterous and self-assured than anything else, which comes across slightly goofy in some video game scenarios, but has a certain wholesome stride that keeps it grounded.

    • @m1chacha
      @m1chacha Před rokem +20

      Exactly, that's what I was thinking - it generally gives (to me at least) more of a macho or heroic vibe which can come across as goofy within the context of certain characters.

    • @limplad3
      @limplad3 Před rokem +18

      Yes, exactly. Context is everything. In fact, I love Mixolydian, and most examples of Mixolydian music I can think of sound heroic, confident, adventurous, melancholic, bittersweet, funky, groovy, folky, medieval-ish, or sometimes even "exotic"... but usually not goofy. Mixolydian can also sound playful of course (there's quite a few VGM examples), but I feel it's not the norm.

    • @essebrunoai
      @essebrunoai Před rokem +9

      As a Brazilian that spent a lot of time listening to the musical genre called Baião, the mixolydian mode evokes a feeling of dryness, hot and arid air, typical of the climate of the places where it's been invented.
      I believe the most important difference between Baião and the mixolydian modes showed on the video is that Baião doesn't really resolve the flat 7 tension - it let's it linger as if it where the natural resting place of the scale.
      Listen to some music written by Luiz Gonzaga to understand what i mean, it is truly something in itself!

    • @joshmireles4999
      @joshmireles4999 Před rokem +1

      This is so interesting because the strongest reference I have for mixolydian has been in Worship music growing up, which always gave a “contemplative” or “yearning” feeling. b7-1 is so versatile 🤩

    • @joshmireles4999
      @joshmireles4999 Před rokem

      This is so interesting because the strongest reference I have for mixolydian has been in Worship music growing up, which always gave a “contemplative” or “yearning” feeling. b7-1 is so versatile 🤩

  • @DeliciousOrange
    @DeliciousOrange Před rokem +283

    5:32 does this mean we can do the REVERSE and turn a romantic ballad into a goofy romp by just adding the mixolydian to an existing composition?

  • @JPBrooksLive
    @JPBrooksLive Před rokem +211

    Dire Dire Docks, Kokiri Forest, Zora's Domain, and Hyrule Field all are great mixolydian songs. I love the versatility of it, and it's always mesmerized me how many moods that mixolydian can evoke.

    • @MercuryHg34
      @MercuryHg34 Před rokem +21

      I'd actually argue that Dire Dire Docks isn't entirely mixolydian, because the 6 chord is borrowed from g minor (I'm talking about that absolutely sexy EbM7 chord), and we only get the E natural note in the 2 and 4 chords during that piece. Also glad someone else mentioned Kokiri Forest before I did.

    • @JPBrooksLive
      @JPBrooksLive Před rokem +6

      @@MercuryHg34 I was considering the EbM7 as just another mode mixture I guess? Since it only shows up at the end of each big phrase. And yeah I absolutely LOVE that chord there. The "Mario cadence" gets a hell of a lot of mileage from Kondo!

    • @bradoliver9324
      @bradoliver9324 Před rokem +12

      I agree that mixolydian is quite versatile, and that while some of the goofy examples given in the video are truly goofy, I would argue that Hyrule Field, and also every song you mentioned is not at all goofy, even without using minor feels. Hyrule Field and Kokiri Forest are both quite jaunty and smiley, but I'd also argue that they underscore a hero's journey and the mixed emotions of venturing into something new and exciting and also leaving behind familiarity. I would put it down as whimsical before "goofy".

    • @WhitePaintbrush
      @WhitePaintbrush Před rokem +1

      @@MercuryHg34 i still think of Dire Dire Docks as being in Mixolydian even if it doesn’t stricly _stay_ within it, because the bVI shows up less frequently than the bVII. It opens with a classic I bVII vamp as well.

    • @MercuryHg34
      @MercuryHg34 Před rokem +4

      @@WhitePaintbrush That's a fair point, though I'd say because the VI chord is always a flat VI and never a natural vi chord that is normally part of the mixolydian mode. This is the awesome thing about music, the way you approach analyzing the piece can be influenced by the aspects of the tonality your brain resonated with the most.

  • @ScotsmanRS
    @ScotsmanRS Před rokem +61

    As a traditional Scottish musician, I found your take on mixolydian quite novel and surprising. A lot of our music uses this mode thanks to the bagpipes and I wouldn’t say it really fits any of the categories or moods described in this video.
    As a 90s kid, I found your take on mixolydian to be immediately intuitive and relatable.
    Context is everything, it seems!

    • @michaelmaloney8183
      @michaelmaloney8183 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I agree! As a fellow piper, it's really interesting how the bagpipes use a measly 9 notes within the Mixolydian mode to convey such emotions as sadness, joy, confidence, fear, light, darkness, and just overall, power... As an example, three of my favorite pipe tunes that convey some interesting emotions are... Cabar Feidh, Haughs of Cromdale, and Bronni's Blue Brozzi. Still can't believe that we can get so much expression out of only 9 notes lol.

  • @jacobcowan3599
    @jacobcowan3599 Před rokem +71

    Clocks by Coldplay is an excellent example of how Mixolydian can give a sense of wonder and drift rather than silliness or confidence.

    • @rumblingrose49
      @rumblingrose49 Před rokem +5

      I was scrolling forever to find a comment on Clocks - it might not be the most common use of mixolydian, but it is an incredibly powerful one.

    • @noelleelizabeth9991
      @noelleelizabeth9991 Před rokem +1

      Chicago by Sufjan Stevens too

    • @henriquemontalvao8492
      @henriquemontalvao8492 Před rokem +1

      Baião is literally country mixolydian

    • @simonschrenk6647
      @simonschrenk6647 Před rokem

      Belfast Child by Simple Minds is THE mixolydian showcase for me. Love that tune!

  • @Josh_Fredman
    @Josh_Fredman Před rokem +54

    I have never heard the mixolydian mode described as goofy before! Usually people use words like mystical, bittersweet, cool, fun-loving, Celtic, bluesy, etc. (You touch on a couple of these in your video.) Interesting to hear a different take on my favorite mode. I can definitely see what you're getting at, though I would argue that it's just another facet of mixolydian, and not the main identity.

    • @schwa4883
      @schwa4883 Před rokem

      In video games at least, it seems to be the most common besides adventurous.

    • @CarbonRollerCaco
      @CarbonRollerCaco Před rokem +1

      I'd call it freespirited.

  • @Yipper64
    @Yipper64 Před rokem +100

    5:48 I like these sort of slight shifts to music in these videos as examples because if I where to make a game sound track id want to use these slight shifts to give something thats the same theme with a different vibe. Knowing that Mixolydian can go from goofy to romantic when you take it out is certainly interesting.

    • @pizza2262
      @pizza2262 Před rokem +6

      this is a great point, if you want to learn more about something similar i'd suggest researching variatons on a theme. its a well studied topic and there are some great youtube videos on it. works great for different vibes like you said!

  • @nrauschermusic
    @nrauschermusic Před rokem +48

    The steady improvement in editing and timing of the jokes in these videos is really joyous to watch

  • @usinganear
    @usinganear Před rokem +93

    I think another super important thing to take note of (no pun intended) is rhythm and timbre.
    I noticed when you “changed” an example to being in major instead of mixo, you also changed the instrumentation from loud, dated samples (that all of those great games have, and it’s awesome of course!) to a slow, quiet piano. That has a huge effect regardless of changing the mode.
    The argument can also be made that major is really goofy/silly but it really just has to do with how you use it and not it’s inherent qualities. I’ve heard mixolydian sound dark and surreal, major can be bittersweet and tug at your heartstrings-but both of those modes can also just be really campy and offputting as well.
    Interesting how many factors combined influence our perception of these things!

    • @Remour
      @Remour Před rokem +1

      I agree, Context and instrumentation matters a ton, I don’t like how some try to apply different emotions to these modes since what emotion it gives off relies HEAVILY on how it’s used. The only inherent differences are how dark or bright the mode is, but either or can sound happy, sad, wondrous or playful. To give an example for major, when you harmony and melody heavily emphasizes the dissonance between the mediant, subdominant, leading tone & tonic scale degrees you get a much more mysterious tone, almost “eerie.” To me I consider this kind of use of Ionian as emphasizing the tonality of the mode since you are using the pitches which gives the mode its character.

  • @early2000skid
    @early2000skid Před rokem +32

    Ok, but the fact that he switched up the instrumentation of Hyrule field to make a "Italian RomCom" rendition just to push home the point and make the joke really funny is why 8-bit is one of the best CZcamsrs on the platform. Hilarious and informative vid, gj as always :)

  • @ShowWithNoName
    @ShowWithNoName Před rokem +82

    I always associated Mixolydian with epic rock music. Besides the classic I - bVII - IV - I chords from Hey Jude or Sympathy for the Devil, Bittersweet Symphony and Nowhere Generation use the flat 7 in their melodies as well as a I - v7 - bVIIsus2 - IV (or IVsus2) chord progression that has a really open sound.

    • @peev2
      @peev2 Před rokem +1

      Also Third stone from the sun.

    • @KororaPenguin
      @KororaPenguin Před rokem

      I associate it with "Old Joe Clark", a comic ditty.

    • @andocobo
      @andocobo Před 7 měsíci

      I always associate it with Chuck Berry and Angus Young

  • @Frederatormusic
    @Frederatormusic Před rokem +15

    You show so many great examples as to why Mixolydian is good for heroism and adventure, not goofiness! Makes sense considering how Mixolydian (and Dorian) are pretty much the go-to for adventure in film music.

  • @Kylora2112
    @Kylora2112 Před rokem +6

    Mixolydian is *the* sound of rock & roll. It's the mode that lets you play E, A, and D major (the three "open" power chords on guitar, so the easiest to play) that plays really well with E and A minor pentatonic (having the major and minor thirds clashing is a fundamental aspect of the blues, where a lot of rock & roll comes from). The I-IV-bVII-IV vamp is to rock & roll as the I-V-IV-vi loop is to pop. "Gloria" (Them) and "What I Like About You" (The Romantics)are among some of the classics built on this foundation (basically a 12 bar blues that never goes to the bIII7).

  • @zeta0134
    @zeta0134 Před rokem +73

    Okay, that was real slick at 10:11, adding one extra repetition of that intro section so that the timing worked well with your delivery. Your editing skills are just getting better and better :)

  • @NoahThys
    @NoahThys Před rokem +15

    I wasn't aware of the mixolydian mode being able to create this effect! I had always learned about it as creating a more dreamy feel, given the lack of tension the leading tone usually creates. The Gapra Whitewood from Final Fantasy XIII is a good example of this.

  • @sdw-hv5ko
    @sdw-hv5ko Před rokem +25

    I also think the bVII-I sound has a certain power to it, which Hyrule Field is a great example of. It makes me think of a lot of rock/metal music from the 70s and 80s, which tended to be in minor or use a blues scale rather than a mixolydian scale, but still use that bVII-I resolution all the time

    • @walkaboutarts
      @walkaboutarts Před rokem +2

      I agree, to me Hyrule Field and that Pokemon Theme have a more "heroic" quality to them.
      for me the classic hero/adventure theme feeling consists of the I, the bVII and finally, the bVI, which I think would perfectly fit both zelda and pokemon themes

  • @kennyholmes5196
    @kennyholmes5196 Před rokem +38

    On the subject of the Root-Flat7th vamp, it really says a lot that even when you were playing just the chords just before you went into the actual retro theme, I could pretty much immediately recognize it as being the Chocobo theme.

  • @TaleshicMatera
    @TaleshicMatera Před rokem +24

    My associations with the Mixolydian mode have always been rather Medieval; and just how the Medieval period has become a "toy" for fantasy settings to play in, that goofy/playful/not-too-serious vibe can arise pretty easily (just just as easily can achieve the darker more regal vibes of said period when orchestrated as such).

  • @kmw1191
    @kmw1191 Před rokem +5

    5:24 "we're here to catch magic rats, not fall in love in the Italian countryside" might be one of my new favorite quotes ever

  • @rruhland
    @rruhland Před rokem +19

    Bringing those themes out of Mixolydian sounds really pretty but damn you’re right how much it just does not fit the situations in which they are supposed to be used.

  • @Morgoth714
    @Morgoth714 Před rokem +2

    The I-iv progression you talked about at the end is something I've always called the Runescape progression since an overwhelming number of their tracks use it. It's like a melancholy medieval sound, which is exactly what Runescape was going for.

    • @Benjy45RS
      @Benjy45RS Před měsícem

      First thing I heard as well!

  • @insanemtl5890
    @insanemtl5890 Před rokem +8

    I might be misinterpreting Mixo, but more than anything, I love it for how beautiful it can sound whenever it's going in the bittwesweet adventurous or medieval-ish areas, my favourite being Lake Of Rage from Pokemon and In Gods Country by U2 :)

  • @cashwarior
    @cashwarior Před rokem +21

    wow at first I was kinda like "okay but you're just using examples that make it sound silly" but as you explained and showed your reasoning behind this I was like "oh... i guess it is goofy 😳"

    • @dagreatmup4141
      @dagreatmup4141 Před rokem

      Same, once he explained the differing sound of the D minor chord, it made much more sense why the original sound is more goofy.

    • @kreeperkiller4423
      @kreeperkiller4423 Před rokem

      goofy 😳

  • @DavidBennettPiano
    @DavidBennettPiano Před rokem +5

    The cease and desist letter is in the post.

  • @RyanLeach
    @RyanLeach Před rokem +1

    I love the alternate history versions with the raised seventh, such a great way to demonstrate what works by showing what doesn’t work!

  • @shreddedyeet
    @shreddedyeet Před rokem +3

    Loving these modal analysis videos man, they really highlight the unique identities and vibes each mode brings to the table. they really help me understand the framework of how some music is built. Keep it up!

  • @andrewericdavison
    @andrewericdavison Před rokem +23

    That theme from OOT is literally my shorthand for remembering what mixolydian sounds like. ❤

  • @aJazzyFeel
    @aJazzyFeel Před rokem +3

    I love this advanced editing style! The storytelling and the editing, the jokes you use in this video are fantastic! I've been subscribed for such a long time and I can sense that you feel much more comfortable now than ever. Keep it up man, cheers!

  • @wohdinhel
    @wohdinhel Před rokem +11

    Mixolydian is my favorite mode, I always think of it as the “Trigun mode” because the episode preview music is very clearly in Mixo, but frankly a lot of “spaghetti western” style music or other things meant to evoke cowboys uses it. It’s really interesting how many vibes can be evoked through Mixo. The lack of a LT makes it kind of perfect for video game music too, because it doesn’t have a final V-I cadence to signal an “end” meaning that you can very easily loop Mixo compositions without ever feeling like there’s a clear stopping point. The adventure can go on forever.

    • @timnordberg7204
      @timnordberg7204 Před rokem +1

      never really thought about it until you mentioned spaghetti westerns, but non-V dom7 chords code as very "American", probably because of its proliferation through blues, rock, and funk.

  • @ThevenimX
    @ThevenimX Před rokem +1

    The minor 5 option sounds like a game over where its the main characters theme but the retry is right there

  • @Kinda___Happy
    @Kinda___Happy Před rokem +1

    Im so happy to be digging into your videos again!! They’re my favorites 🙌

  • @SamWickens
    @SamWickens Před rokem +4

    Hey now, Malon's Gondola Training is the best Zelda spinoff and I'll hear no word against it!

  • @maria.garavaglia
    @maria.garavaglia Před rokem +3

    Nice video! I'm reminded of Customize It! from the Steambot Chronicles soundtrack. The b7 is used a lot there as part of an enclosure, making that sort-of-medieval sound mentioned in the Chrono Cross example.

  • @haikaido
    @haikaido Před rokem +2

    I freaking love this video. I like the information and I really like hearing those songs played with the mode "removed" if you will. That could be a series on its own lol

  • @musicman9901
    @musicman9901 Před rokem +1

    @ 5:11 I love how sleepy and contemplative the over-world theme becomes. Would listen to a full version.

  • @Brassydoots
    @Brassydoots Před rokem +2

    Great examples chosen for this video. Iconic songs that traverse across multiple genres of gaming. This video was put together really well, thank you for this!

  • @griffinc466
    @griffinc466 Před rokem +4

    I often associate Mixolydian with Celtic and other related folk musics, cool to see how else it's used and perceived! Would love to see you look at modes of other scales like harmonic and melodic minor too!

  • @rho421
    @rho421 Před rokem

    I love your videos so much! As I was listening, "Born to be Wild" came to mind, so I googled it...and sure enough, it has moments of E Myxolidian! Thank you for your incredible work.

  • @JoHe_SonicBanana
    @JoHe_SonicBanana Před rokem +3

    For me mixolydian sounds very triumph and is thus very suitable for video games. That bVII-I (or the other version in the video) is such a powerful musical step. BTW, love your videos, never stop.

  • @auriels1451
    @auriels1451 Před rokem

    Wow amazing timing. I'm literally writing a piece using mixolydian as the main sound and thought might be good to do some digging into it. Thanks so much this was so so helpful!

  • @zacharywong483
    @zacharywong483 Před rokem

    Awesome video as always! These musical examples from so many games are spot-on and fantastic listening samples!

  • @vgmkas
    @vgmkas Před rokem +4

    Love that you touched on I-v rather than just the typical I-bVII! Adding bVI as a chromatic mediant to create bVI-bVII-I at points is also semi-common in Mixolydian tracks. I-bVII-iv is another favorite of mine that can imply Mixolydian b6 (an example being the Seaside Town theme from Super Mario RPG). The Wario Land 3 OST is nearly entirely in Mixolydian.

  • @tristanyoungquist7121
    @tristanyoungquist7121 Před 12 dny

    Love your mode analysis series. Always coming back to this channel for inspiration!

  • @moldyshishkabob
    @moldyshishkabob Před rokem +1

    This has been an awesome series. Having learned music theory but having a completely different career path, I never got to the point of applying these enough to recognize them in what I'm listening to. It's real cool, and it's neat to see what fun songs from my childhood were all Mixolydian lol

  • @PunkTenshi
    @PunkTenshi Před rokem

    You are simply fantastic!! Thank you for your fun, high quality work. 😊

  • @stllr_
    @stllr_ Před rokem

    thank you for these mode videos. i've always thought modes were really interesting but couldn't wrap my head around why they were chosen for specific pieces, or hell how to even pick them out of a song. thanks for your service

  • @dylandobbins
    @dylandobbins Před rokem

    Been really enjoying these mode videos. Would love if you could do a video on ear training intervals as the songs from these games are ingrained in my life.

  • @sparklefulpaladin
    @sparklefulpaladin Před rokem +3

    As an appreciator of music, thank you so much for making your videos informative, but also able to be understood by those of us who may not have much, if any, music theory training.

  • @BorisBidjanSaberi11
    @BorisBidjanSaberi11 Před rokem

    Always incredible viewing experience with your videos

  • @MarcelPetit
    @MarcelPetit Před rokem

    LOVE the content man! Have been interested in this stuff since I was a kid already and it's great and helpful to see your views

  • @anthonyramirez7272
    @anthonyramirez7272 Před měsícem

    Thanks for making separate videos on each musical mode

  • @jbradleymusic
    @jbradleymusic Před rokem +9

    I immediately started humming the Chocobo theme before I even realized you were leading up to that. That stuff is potent.
    Also: "NO THANKS"

  • @jessemyers_music
    @jessemyers_music Před rokem +1

    Always loved the quick b7 for the fanfare opening to the pokemon rby end credits. Gentle touch of both adventurous and bittersweet while celebrating the completion of the elite 4.

  • @edonslow1456
    @edonslow1456 Před rokem +1

    There's a great example of mixolydian in one of the two player mode songs in Sonic 2. Whenever I hear the mode, I'm taken back to my childhood and killing time over summer playing that game.

  • @pAWNproductionsDE
    @pAWNproductionsDE Před rokem +10

    For years I didn't use the mixolydian scale much specifically because it was hard NOT to make it sound goofy (or like cheesy dad-rock), until I listened to some japanese jazz. For example, "Clouds" (both the Tatsuro Yamashita and Minako Yoshida versions) heavily emphasize the mixolydian sound by using the 5th as a pedal bass note with chord changes over it. Personally I find the use of the IV chord over the 5th scale degree (ex. Bmaj7/C#) to be a really beautiful, ethereal sound. Really broke me out of the "mixolydian is goofy" mindset

  • @en4626
    @en4626 Před rokem

    These videos never fail to inspire me, great stuff!

  • @TheViolaBuddy
    @TheViolaBuddy Před rokem +1

    Before this video, if I had to describe Mixolydian with one adjective, I'd have used "adventurous" - I think I what I thought of was that category of songs you describe in the middle with the Pokémon main theme or OoT Hyrule Field. But sure, goofy is a common feel, too, as you show, as is "medieval-y" (which I think is related to Celtic music, where Mixolydian is also common).
    And I never really thought about how mixolydian and blues brush up against each other. That's a really interesting idea. The modes get a lot of attention because they're packaged up together tidily as a set, but if you wanted to continue making more videos about the uses of non-mode scales like the blues scales or the pentatonic or whatever, I'd be down for that.

  • @thepulseman7154
    @thepulseman7154 Před rokem +3

    Excellent video, I'm really hyped for what's next!
    As for my personal favourite example, it is the third random dungeon theme from Pokémon Mystery Dungeon - Explorers of Sky, sorta goofy, though it does evolve into something else completely that kinda screams FF airship theme.
    Also I kept confusing dorian and mixolydian, no wonder why the other favourites I was thinking of felt much less goofy, though dorian does have it's part of goofiness at times.

  • @charlesvattimo4674
    @charlesvattimo4674 Před 7 měsíci

    It’s kinda fascinating how a mood of a whole piece can shift just by lowering the penultimate note in the mode. At first I’d imagine that the new whole step would cause resolutions to not have so much weight, like with the natural minor scale, but the whole step does indeed allow a piece to step up and down rather freely, being much more whimsical.

  • @guyedwards22
    @guyedwards22 Před rokem +6

    I will make the argument that Mixolydian has a somewhat hidden "Mystical" quality to it. There is an extremely warm, colorful magic sound you can achieve by mixing the fourth scale degree into the melodies over the I7 chord. The 7sus4 chord captures this really well; the verses in Toto's 'Stop Loving You' vamp between F#7 and F#7sus4, and the result is this feeling of intense freedom and flight. Inside The Great Deku Tree from OOT also demonstrates the sort of 'spiritualism of nature' vibe evoked by Mixolydian.
    If you have access to a piano, hold down the sustain pedal and descend through 1-b7-5-4-3-1 scale degrees repeatedly down successive octaves to get an idea of this mystical quality.

    • @Razaak666
      @Razaak666 Před rokem

      Inside the Deku Tree is in F# Dorian, it's based around a minor third :)

  • @nathanlawrence2484
    @nathanlawrence2484 Před rokem +1

    Your connection to typical Italian love songs made me realize that this existed and now I can't unhear legend of Zelda, linksa awakeninga

  • @nthgth
    @nthgth Před rokem

    This is wonderful. THANK you.
    Also, I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice the similarity between the original Pokémon theme and Hyrule Field!

  • @oliverlacota3112
    @oliverlacota3112 Před rokem

    The Hyrule Field theme reimagined as a romantic Italian piece is the most blursed thing I've heard in recent memory. Thank you so much.

  • @Dunamis_010
    @Dunamis_010 Před rokem

    Keep these vids coming man! I’m learning SO much!

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement Před rokem +4

    10:14 Oh wow, never noticed how minor and slightly threatening the chords of Millenia Fair sounds by itself. The melody hides and blends with it really well!

  • @drTHEAWESOME
    @drTHEAWESOME Před rokem

    Please keep making these videos!! So helpful! Actually opening my music third ear 😳

  • @JPBrooksLive
    @JPBrooksLive Před rokem +1

    DUUUUUDE THANK YOU! I just learned Kokomo by the Beach Boys and it has a C - CM7 - Gm to start the verse progression and I think I've only ever noticed the Beatles using a minor V like that, (I know there's tons of other examples, I just haven't come across them!) And I've been wondering WTF makes that work! I love these videos 😊

  • @chaoinspace2
    @chaoinspace2 Před rokem +6

    Mixolydian is also used quite a lot in Indian Classical Music too.

  • @smoothbeak
    @smoothbeak Před rokem +1

    Very interesting, having listened to the examples and looked at the games I would describe the quality of the I to bVII as being "forward momentum", it's letting the player know that there is an expectation of moving and exploring, in particular this is so in the Ocarina of Time example.

  • @RedAsTheFire
    @RedAsTheFire Před rokem +7

    I think the reason why the Mixolydian mode is my favorite mode is that it seem the most apt at straddling the line between major and minor cadences. It takes a lot less work to wring something melancholic out of the Mixolydian mode than it is for other major modes, not only with the FF6 example you brought up but another good example is Dire Dire Docks from SM64. When done right, minor Mixolydian can give off a sense of nostalgia or, perhaps, even a sense of anemoia.

  • @guy-sl3kr
    @guy-sl3kr Před rokem

    Love how you put your patreon subscription as an item in the Goron shop haha

  • @elemangell2981
    @elemangell2981 Před rokem

    Okay but your example of shifting the Pokemon theme away from the mixolydian mode just makes me want an Italy region even more.

  • @julienconstantineau3592

    All your mode videos are gold

  • @amiwan9596
    @amiwan9596 Před rokem

    this mode series is awesome! so much different than the usual take on modes

  • @mknacho4187
    @mknacho4187 Před rokem +2

    I wouldn't have been able to talk about mixolydian without constantly talking about the 6/b7 to 7 relation, such a funky blend of major and minor :)

  • @frogabelle
    @frogabelle Před rokem +8

    I never thought I'd get to be personally offended by an opinion on a musical mode, so thanks! This is great examination of how this mode can be used, however I have to point out that it can also be used for much more somber or even grave tunes, as the mixolydian "flat 7th" is iconic to traditional Irish Sean-nós singing! I was very excited when I saw the scale on screen as I actually recognised it from that. Great video, but unfortunately I'm patriotically obligated to say, "how dare you!"

  • @aterr
    @aterr Před rokem

    my AP music theory teacher has started using your videos in my class to teach lessons, so cool to see

  • @Rextraordinaire
    @Rextraordinaire Před rokem +5

    I have never hear of this mode but the more I came to understand it, the more I recognized that this was all over the entire Wario Land 3 soundtrack

    • @vgmkas
      @vgmkas Před rokem

      It is, yep! Most songs in that game are a variation of the same Mixolydian melody over I-bVII!

  • @Aidiakapi
    @Aidiakapi Před rokem

    That A to Em7 on guitar from Final Fantasy (9:35), immediately reminded me of Roller Coaster Tycoon 3's track Summer Air.

  • @ToastTheBread
    @ToastTheBread Před rokem +5

    I LOST it at the "adjusted" Hyrule Field theme.

  • @theIpatix
    @theIpatix Před rokem +4

    LOL, I would have never ever gotten the idea before to describe Mixolydian as goofy, but I guess it all makes sense now. In videogames I've always found it to be an exciting adventurous type of sound with the I to bVII changes (I guess Motoi Sakuraba introduced me into that). Thank you so much for making this video. I honestly never really believed I would hear someone talk about Mixolydian without talking about rock music all the time (I mean, I guess there are similarities, but perhaps my brain is just a bit twisted). So, how about Dorian next or was it already featured on 8 bit music theory before?

  • @1Andypro
    @1Andypro Před rokem

    Really great VG examples from my favorite mode. I was surprised by the "goofy" adjective, but you backed it up well. I personally always felt mode V was the "most normative" mode, or at least could have been - had modes originated in, say, Ireland rather than mainland Europe. For example, traditional Irish jigs and reels seem to default to mixolydian for the major key sound (and then mostly dorian for the minor key sound). There's also a case to be made that the natural 7th of the Ionian mode fits into fewer chords than the flat 7th. But of course, it's hard to pull yourself out of your musical upbringing and try to hear each of the modes without being bombarded by contextual memories.

  • @mariosbrother6845
    @mariosbrother6845 Před rokem

    i get giddy every time you bring up the Pilotwings 64 soundtrack is is one of my absolute FAVORITES

  • @thefuzstache1139
    @thefuzstache1139 Před rokem

    A few years back I made a march-esque piece with that exact 1 to b7 chord vamp, and I called it ‘Goofy March,’ so this video was incredibly cathartic for me in a way.

  • @fatmario8244
    @fatmario8244 Před rokem

    Yes I need more of this stuff 😊

  • @kephalai
    @kephalai Před rokem

    5:12 making actual samples of music to let us see (heara) what you mean really helped make me understand haha! thank you!

  • @wellurban
    @wellurban Před rokem +4

    Interesting! The first example was definitely goofy, but overall I’ve tended to think of Mixolydian as playful and energetic rather than necessarily goofy. Particularly the bVII-I vamp, which Leonard Bernstein used as a defining example of Mixolydian by playing the “You Really Got Me” riff. Or as Signals Music Studio put it, it’s why “your Mum likes AC/DC”: you can get the bluesy/rocky/funky vibe of the flat 7th but the sing-along brightness of major.

  • @interruptingPreempt
    @interruptingPreempt Před rokem

    Oh, I am so glad you made this video. I've been trying to wrap my head around mixolydian mode and wasn't finding leads that were helpful for me. The great highland bagpipes actually play in mixolydian, but it is difficult to find music for it when just starting out. This helps give me some sort of context I can work within. Thanks!
    (The bagpipe chanter's scale is: G, A B C# D E F# G A)

  • @jasperzanjani
    @jasperzanjani Před rokem

    wow I never in a thousand years would have divined that these songs are all so deeply interconnected... great research!

  • @chedddargoblin
    @chedddargoblin Před rokem

    Please do more examples where you change iconic music to make your point!! This helped it click for me

  • @MelodyWarp
    @MelodyWarp Před rokem +6

    I spent most of this video thinking about how interesting it was that you find Mixolydian goofy and fun when I've always found it meloncholy, bittersweet, and at times hopeful. Then you used all those words by the end! 😆

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 Před rokem

      I always think rock & roll when I think Mixolydian.

  • @kailaria
    @kailaria Před rokem

    Perhaps the best example of Mixolydian used entirely modally and also not necessarily a goofy way (more of a whimsical, floaty "what could we be building? It's all on you, player!" feel) would be Build Theme No. 1 from the original The Sims.
    It goes through a half-circle of 5ths of Mixo modes (E to A to D to G to C to F), and typically doing a 2 measure repeated chord progression of I - I - IV - bVII (so, for the first section, E-"maj" for a full measure, then A-maj for half and D-maj for half to solidify it as a Mixolydian piece prior to even having a melody).
    It's one of my favorite pieces to play on piano thanks to the syncopated Latin-sounding baselines coupled with fast mixolydian scales in the right hand that help get you in the house-building mood like an 80s or 90s home improvement channel's intermission or something on The Weather Channel (it *is* a New Age Jazz piece, tbf). Never jarring, just calm, peaceful, flowing, even as it transitions from mixo key to mixo key. Perfect background music that's there and memorable, but also not so present as to be the star of the show.

  • @ilaytsa2685
    @ilaytsa2685 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I have to admit I've never thought of the Mixolydian mode as goofy. To me it's like major, just more... Chill. Obviously not all of the time, but if the major scale usually ranges between "happy" to "dramatic", I'd say Mixolydian ranges between relaxed to cool or confident. I think it isn't inherently more goofy then major or lydian.

  • @kevinkerkhoff6670
    @kevinkerkhoff6670 Před rokem

    5:26 I want a full remix of that song in that style. Was grinning from ear to ear while listening

  • @YourIdeologyIsDelusional

    Blues itself is modal, you can flat or sharp the relevant notes in any mode to make it blues and you'll get basically that mode but with more "coolness" in its sound.
    Nobuo uses this trick extensively. FF7's boss theme is a chief example, as its main melody swaps back and forth between a mode and its relative blues scale, and it does this seamlessly, by weaving it into a call and response structure, such that it can be really hard to pick out where one starts and the other ends. As a rule of thumb, though, he plays the mode going up, and then resolves with a blues-y riff, but there's also points where he hovers between them ambiguously.
    The resulting music is perfect for a 90s Final Fantasy game: It's the perfect sound for a cast of cool characters having an epic battle.

  • @yeth_half
    @yeth_half Před rokem

    I always adore these videos, somtime in the future i would die to see a analysis on Piranha Plant's Lullaby, lol.

  • @Brandon55638
    @Brandon55638 Před 8 měsíci

    5:24 Absolutely hilarious 😂😂😂
    I was honestly expecting the major mode versions to sound more like a wistful orchestral soundtrack.

  • @smergthedargon8974
    @smergthedargon8974 Před rokem +6

    Mixolydian, to me, is simply "Major but tolerable"
    I don't hear it as "goofy" so much as I hear it is "relaxed and comfortable".