Schwinn 430 elliptical resistance repair & speed and flywheel mechanism
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- čas přidán 15. 09. 2020
- This is a quick video to show the insides of a Schwinn 430. I believe it is the same as a Schwinn 470. We have had this one for like 6 years, so it's pretty much on itsdeath bed.
One thing I forgot to mention is that you can also adjust the break by loosening the 2 bolts on the bottom of the bottom of the little brake motor.
I originally had to open it up to fix a squeak that was coming from metal running together where a spot weld broke off. Enjoy.
This just saved my elliptical. I had the mechanism exposed but would have never found the screw to turn. Thank you sir!
You're welcome. Glad it helped.
My schwinn 430 had high resistance even at level 0. Followed your instructions and I found that zero on the display is not really zero..keep pressing the button to reduce the resistance..after 5 beeps later, the motor stops. I can live with that ;) Thank you for making this video!!
I've had one of these that I found for free on Craigslist just before Covid started. The guy didn't want to take the time to find the inner squeak. It turned out to be a 4-hour job after I forgot to replace a certain axle screw and had to disassemble again. Anyway, my screen says I'm going up and down the resistance scale but that motor, which I believe is called a servo, runs for only 1 or 2 seconds at a time and doesn't move the magnet array (which you showed attaching itself to the flywheel). So, thanx for pointing out the adjustment screw even if it isn't part of my problem, and I hope I won't need to replace the motor. As it is, I could probably get away with leaving the resistance as it is and just adding more time and/or speed to my workouts. You might want to edit the video's title to tell people that this is also the mechanics for the Schwinn 230 Bike and possibly more.
THANK YOU!! after 6 years of using this elliptical with no variance in resistance settings, your video was exactly what i needed...and it worked! Now i have 20 levels of varying resistance...can't wait to do a hill work out! I was able to get the cover off without cutting...removed screws holding it on and wiggled it over the pedal arm. Thanks again!!!
After 7 years, having to fix, not bad at all. Thanks for the fix video.
Man, I have to thank you much for making this video. It is EXACTLY what I needed to know. I am doing the exact same repair on the same 430 machine. I am going at it because the resistance isn’t working. And I too almost cut off my plastic cover just like you because I don’t care what it looks like either but I was able to bend it far enough to get it out of my way to work on. Now that little blue screw on the back of the brake I never would have known to turn that screw to fix it but that is exactly what my problem was. Saved me huge bucks. Thanks again.
No problem! I'm glad it helped somebody. I'm actually going to try to JB weld it today. We'll see how it turns out.
Thanks, I was able to just split the center housing and get to that pot adjuster. I didn't take any thing else loose. It fixed mine once I got the pot adjusted just right. I realized that if the motor goes too far it just starts to move the magnet further away again so you just want it to stop when the magnet is at the closest point. Not sure why mine got out of adjustment but it was staying at the lowest setting it felt like. I turned the pot back and forth several times to hopefully clean its contacts. It is working great right now. I may have never thought to try the adjustment you showed me.
Glad it worked out for you.
Wow, this actually worked! Turning the blue screw with a mini screwdriver towards the left fixed the resistance.
It was a little tricky getting the plastic covers open. I ended up only needing to open the right side cover (looking from the front). You can see the blue screw from that side. I fit a mini screwdriver inside and a flashlight and turned the blue screw leftwards, while the resistance was set to level 20. After adjusting, set to level 1, then 20 again, test the pedal. I'd repeat this until I have the perfect resistance. Thank you!
So, the blue box & screw is on the side ahead of the user's left foot, correct? Anyway, I'd like to advise anyone who thinks they don't need the protection of the plastic panels (for animals, children, or wayward feet, etc.) to take them off. They don't affect the noise much and are a real pain every time you want to perform maintenance and/or inspections.
@@raygrinders3918 Generally, yes. While the box is actually behind the right foot cover, you can better reach it and the blue screw by going in the other side from the left foot cover. You only need open the left side to get a screwdriver in. Mine is still working great!
@@cori6331 Cool.
I just did mine. The increment on the pot turning is like 1/64th of an inch or less counter-clockwise. I turned it about 1/32 and it was too much. I turned it back a little and its perfect. I bought the crankshaft tool at a bicycle shop 22m-1mm. Its perfect now. But I must have bumped the power plug because now its intermittent if it turns on or not.
This was super useful, adjusting the blue screw on the servo motor restored resistance control for me too. I then drilled a hole in the plastic cover so that this screw could be accessed without removing the plastic cover. If others want to do the same, the blue screw is about 11.5" back from the front of the machine, and 5.75" up from floor level (distances may differ especially for floor level if there are different height adjustments, but putting a hole or two in the plastic casing and then covering over with tape seemed a much better solution than possibly needing to remove the cover again.
Perfect idea. I just use a hole cutter bit and it was right there.
Thanks Moe for this video! For anyone looking at this machine I would not recommend it. I first had to replace the servo motor after about 3 years of moderate use. Now it's my second time inside because after about a year the 2nd servo motor goes immediately from too loose to too tight. Considering that the machine a huge 250 pound boat anchor that is hard to move or to dispose of, these little breakdowns have been a real pain. You need to invest a few hours in figuring out how to take it apart an put back together, and I have better things to do.
Thanks for the comment. Sorry you had a bad experience.
It sounds like your idler tires and frame rail could use a light coating of silicone lubrication. They are squeaking quite a bit. The idler tires don't need to roll so much as they need to glide. Your machine will run much quieter.
Yeah, I lubricate them from time to time. It doesn't seem to last that long, probably from the dust in the garage.
@@moeholliday mine always starts squeaking again after a while. Although, it squeaks on the right side and not the left. I just got my 4:30 a couple of months ago so, it is still under service warranty. I am probably going to have them send a technician out and see if they can solve the problem. If it is helpful to you, I will share the outcome of the service call.
You are my hero.
Lol, thanks. Hope it all works out for you.
Dude! you had simply to buy a crankshaft remover and push out with it that pedal after removing the bolt it is secured with, instead of cutting through that plastic.. these are sold for 10$ online and are standard for all bikes.. search for the Schwin 430 service manual, it is explained there how to remove that Shroud and Crank Pedal on pages 57-58
😆 Yeah that's good to know. I knew there was a tool but I didn't know how cheap it was. I had the tin snips in my tool box though so I probably would have done it like that anyway. 😅
It's all good though. Thanks for the info. I'm sure it will help the next guy out.
You left an extremely important part out which is how did u adjust the blue part
Nice vid man, I'm looking to buy this exact model, would you recommend it? You said it held up 6 years which is pretty good if there no problems in between. I wouldn't mind dropping $700 dollars at all on an elliptical if it held up for 6 years. Elliptical is second best behind swimming if we're talking low impact cardio options imo, can't wait to buy one eventually and start getting back on track with my goals :)
I've had this is machine for 7 years. The resistance never worked but does now after following the instructions in this video. My only complaint about this machine is that the sleeve that connects the right pedal to the bar that holds it has cracked twice creating a horrible squeak. Oddly enough that is not considered part of the "frame" and was only covered for 2 years. I have had to reweld it twice. Otherwise it is a good home workout machine.
Sorry for the late reply. Yes. I would recommend it. I hadn't really had much problems with it. I feel like it is just as much of a workout as the ones in the gym..
Could you describe what adjustment you made to the screw in the blue square? thanks!
You just turn it with a screw driver. A little turn goes a long way. Think of it as being kind of like a volume control. you will have to play with it to get it to the right place.
Inside that blue screw is a screw? And it must need an extremely small screwdriver to twist it cause I couldn't get anything to fit
Yeah, sorry about that. Yeah its a pretty small Phillps screw...like the biggest jewelers screwdriver.
Has anyone had an issue with the left pedal coming off the rail assembly? If so, can you please let me know what you did to repair? I'm not sure if there is screw loose or If I need to order a new part.
Like what do you mean? Like while you're using it?
How do you like this machine, is it worth buying or look at another one?
Sorry for the late reply. I do like this machine and I feel that it is worth the price.
Which way do you turn the resistor to increase the resistance?
I can't remember now. I think it was to the left, but I'm unsure. But what you're changing is how much the motor turns for each adjustment. So you have to look at where the actuator arm is when it thinks it's at max resistance. Then you can decide where you need to go from there. Someone in one of the comments said that you can adjust it while it is mounted if you go from the other side.
For me, turning right decreased resistance, left increased resistance. My way of thinking about this was that the motor is working against a spring that drives resistance towards max, so the greater the number of motor turns (screw further right, probably), the lower the resistance should end up being. I drilled a hole in the casing to access the screw so that I could make further adjustments without removing the casing. See comment above for location of the hole.
How did you adjust it
😆 Sorry, I never realized that I hadn't showed that. At the 3:30 point it shows a blue variable register thing on the board. You just turn it slightly with a screwdriver.