Faith Venus vs Neptune + Neptune Body Wood Comparisons
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Update 12/120/2022 As of earlier this year I no longer sell Faith Guitars. This may sound negative but its merely due to the way in which every single guitar I sell in my business is and always will be a genuine personal recommendation - things change and develop over time including when I posted this video 4 years ago which I refer to in my explanatory blog linked below - which explains why I no longer sell Faith Guitars.
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I have kept the video up for transparency and I think its still helpful
Guitars covered in the video...
Faith Venus Sunburst 45mm
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Faith Neptune Sunburst 45mm
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Faith Neptune Blood Moon Burst
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Faith Neptune PJE Model
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Faith Neptune Hi Gloss
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Please read the following blog for an update on Faith Guitars and why I no longer recommend them - I don't mention the fact that they now drop ship direct to end users - completely bypassing any retailer based quality control (not that many retailers provide it anyway it seems) but for me - a total deal breaker as every guitar we sell is setup to perfection and we expect to be supported by the brand in doing so. rguitars.co.uk/blogs/guitars/why-richards-guitars-no-longer-sell-faith-guitars
Excellent video as always Richard, I knew different body sizes and styles effected the overall sound but never really appreciated the differences the different woods make. Informative as always, thanks for taking the time to make these videos!
Not many dealers would go to this trouble showcasing a manufacturer, lots of Faith guitar options, much thought provoking with sound and wood combinations. I enjoyed this video, thanks Richard. 10/10
Hi. What I kind of wanted to do was not jump on the bandwagon with the obvious marketing strategy of promoting the most most popular / best selling model and telling you how wonderful it is. Why? Because this is the stereotypical retail pitch. IF a product is popular just go "yeh yeh yeh - its the best and here is why". I actually find the overwhelming popularity of the blood moon burst quite frustrating - not because its not a lovely guitar but people buy it without even knowing what it sounds like. I don't want to put people off blood moon models - but I would like to make the buyer as informed as possible about which model would suit them thus distributing sales more evenly between models based on suitability. If I get an email saying "Was about to buy the blood moon but on watching your video I think the PJE model is more suitable " then I feel I have done my job. Equally so if someone was about to buy a Blood Moon and then watch the video and it confirms they still want it - PERFECT! Remember though - having a guitar you love the look of is massively important for some too - which I didn't really mention in the video I think? If someone doesn't pickup their guitar because they dont like the look of it then it aint much use to anyone!! Vice versa of course. Thank you for your feedback - appreciated.
Spot-on Richard.
Love the chaos of Richard's uploads (no offence) - he often goes all over the place but his comments are always insightful and useful.
Love the sound of that Blood Moon Burst but that's because I tend to prefer the more bass/middle area of the sound spectrum.
I've bought from Richard on a couple of occasions - his prices and service are excellent.
Very useful and sensible to have links for each guitar in the info notes.
Thanks Richard.
This was a useful video for me. I have fancied a Faith for a while and was drawn initially to the Venus high gloss. After trying a lot of guitars in a shop, Taylor's, Martins, Yamaha's, Washburn's and Faiths, I couldn't make my mind up, something wasn't right. I left the shop, watched a few CZcams vids and that helped me. This video in particular. Like the gent says, your preference is subjective, I like the Bloodmoon personally, it's well rounded but you get a certain brightness out of it when you dig in, where I had gone wrong and how this video helped was the body size, I had convinced myself the Venus was for me 'buying with the eyes', I realized within the first 3 chords strummed I wanted a Neptune. Great video, really helpful.
Excellent video and very informative, thanks.
I think it depends ultimately on what you're looking for. I bought with my ears when I bought the Venus Bloodmoon. It had the tight, focused mids that I was looking for. I already have a bigger bodied mini-Jumbo which is excellent (one of the Yamaha master built series) so I was looking for a smaller bodied guitar. When I picked up the Venus Bloodmoon, it was a no brainer. Beautiful guitar - and the pre-amp is superb.
Really enjoyed this video Richard. 30 minutes well spent I would say :)
OK,.. after playing guitar for 50 years, I decided to buy a "Real" acoustic guitar,.... I budgeted against the Martin, Gibson, Taylor and a couple of others, which gave me a lot of lee-way. Having spent a good hour comparing them all,... I was sadly, not over-impressed,... They just didn't seem to get to the point where I thought,... "Wow" My best friend had bought a small body Faith a couple of years previously. It was nice enough to consider trying one out... At the end of the session, I asked the guys in ANDERTON's if I could try out the Faith Neptune "Blood Moon"....
When I got the Faith in my hands, it was almost perfectly setup for me,.. the strings were heavier than I would go for,... but she actually sang to me,.... I walked out of the shop extremely happy.... After 5 months of happy partnership, she get's a daily work out and I'm accomplishing all those things I never even considered before, like non-standard tunings,...
Best decision I've made since I bought my original U.S. built Fender Stratocaster in 1978
Thanks! Best guitar review I've seen and helped me decide what I want from a faith! Keep it up!
Five years ago I travelled from Manchester to Stratford because Richard appeared to have purchased the entire UK supply of Venus. Got a call from him the night before just as I arrived to say he wanted me to try something else as he didn’t have the Venus I wanted. I was not impressed. Neptune Trembesi was his suggestion. Popped in the next day and was pleased to see a very busy shop and a Richard who was busy with customers and gestured to us to just go play. Didn’t get to have a conversation with him for an hour. I By that time I’d picked up a Venus. Thought it was okay. Picked up this other Faith guitar. No idea what it was but fell in love with it immediately. Suffice to say it was the Neptune Trembesi. Dammit he was right. Walked out of the shop with it that day and have never regretted it. Wish he’d been able to show you one of those as well but I’d trust his judgement as a guide every time.
Thank you for telling that story. The great thing about honest is I can post a video to the public knowing that I have been 100% consistent with my thought processes over 23 years. Naturally things evolve - time brings new options etc but I totally agree that the Trembesi model is lovely and I think I do refer to it during the video and yes it is a shame it was missing.
I have the Neptune simply because as I picked it up the action was damn near perfect. This was coming from a Jazz electric guitar with a very low action. I play Jazz chord melodies and the Neptune can handle the complex chord shapes no problem. Tone wise the Neptune has a warm tone but its not over bearing. Yet still punchy. As these guitars will age and bed in over time they are all going to sound awesome. To be honest all of those guitars sound amazing. Mine is the Patrick Eggle model. Excellent presentation.
I first met Richard about 15 to 20 years ago when he opened his shop just over the bridge in Stratford on Avon off the Tiddington road, although I haven’t been in for several years. However, I constantly find joy and information from his, almost daily broadcasts.
His love of the guitar is second to none. His enthusiasm is infectious, and his online videos are just as haphazard as they ever were....BUT
that erratic thinking brain is unique, in that his intention is to inform and match any prospective buyer with the most appropriate guitar! Long may you continue to entertain and impart the knowledge that is between those ears! Best Regards Greg
Great video. That's made me rethink my desire for a Venus style. Almost pulled the trigger on a Blue Moon Venus today at the Guitar Show, would be interesting to compare the Neptune in the Blue Moon also.
Very insightful, I wanted to hear the difference between the Neptune and Venus, I think I'll be going for a Neptune! But I'd probably love them all
I went into a local (independent) store earlier this year determined to get a Venus. Walked out with a Neptune.
I did exactly the same thing.Was going to buy the bloodmoon Venus like everybody does.
Played it played the Trembessie wood Neptune and loved it bought the Neptune instead.The Venus sounded thin to me.
Did the same last February, it just felt and sounded so right, then my wife went and bought an Earth Legacy, which I played along with a £3000 Martyn and similar price Taylor and in a blind test everyone preferred the Earth Legacy.
I bought a b-stock Neptune much like in the video. Blown away by it. Its sounds much more expensive than it is. Full sounding, and the fact that it’s such a good looking thing too just makes it one that I don’t think I’ll ever sell.
It does that thing that makes you want to write music and just play around with chords. I tried a Martin at the same price, and also a Taylor. The Taylor at the price point ran it closer than the Martin, but I just thought how actually Faith are a company that feels like it’s earning your respect rather than expecting you to want one.
If I was to weigh in on this, I think if you like strumming the Neptune is the way forwards, the chords sound more rounded and carry an oomph to them, the Venus plays more sharply and sounds more precise. Both are great all rounders, I think the Venus is perhaps better for fingerpicking. But honestly either is great and you’ll know if you ever play them which suits you.
I think this discussion and demonstration is really helpful!
I love the comfort of the smaller body guitars, and have a couple from different builders. However I find the Grand Auditorium type size just gives you so much more in every way from a purely sonic standpoint.
I have the Furch Yellow Master's Choice Gc-CR and besides the fact that it's a world class guitar, the body size itself really gives you much more versatility than a concert sized guitar.
Even my Walden G630 CE, a sub $600, though extremely nice build quality, has an extremely versatile sound palette compared to my Breedlove ECO Discovery S Concert Red Cedar-African Mahogany guitar, which is a similar price point. Both have solid Cedar tops with layered back and sides, though the Walden is layered Rosewood, the Breedlove layered Mahogany.
But no doubt, those concert sized guitars have their place, super comfortable to play and a more subtle sound. But definitely more limited sonically if you are looking for a single guitar to do it all!.
I agree. I have a Neptune which sounds great but tried a Venus yesterday in store and it was another world in terms of comfort - I am considering swapping!
Great honest review Rich!
I listened very very intently to the sounds both guitars made.
Was pretty tough to listen to, especially whilst we’re in lockdown, as I always go into the shop and have a good play, especially when I’m going to pay for a guitar over £500.
Well, I have to happily say, I opted for a Faith Legacy Mahogany Neptune.
I did it all on the basis of your video sounds on the Neptune.
I’d love to show the guitar I received a week ago.
I’ve had loads of guitars over the years, all different makes, sizes etc.
By far the nicest guitar I’ve played in 30 odd years of playing.
Cheers Rich for all of your help.
Excellent video. I love Faith guitars and I have 5 Neptunes, and three PJE customs. I would call the Venus 'jangly' and a bit thin and the Neptune smoother and fuller. I presume the one you refer to as PJE is a Legacy? That has a good tonal range. I also assume they all have the same strings as we all know how they can alter things. One comparison I would love to hear is the greatly over-rated Everly Gibson and a Faith of similar woods. Thanks for the vid.
Very helpful comparisons as I just about to purchase my Faith guitar. Faith simply makes great guitars, and playing style is also so important. Think I will go with the Neptune, Blue gloss finish!
They do sound different, but that’s not a bad thing, I’m still happy enough that I chose a Venus.
Bought the Blood Moon Neptune several months ago, it has become my all time favorite. The tonality and clearness of each note and chord is simply amazing, it is like a fine crystal in it's resonance and sustain. Hats off to Patrick for the design, truly a beauty to look at and simply wonderful to play. The Fret board action is superb, the quality in the tuners and all the attention to detail is really quite a bargain at this price point. I have played and love certain Martin guitars, played Taylors etc, again hard to compare and contrast as the two are different and intended so via the wood choices and bracing layout. It is always about personal choice and what you are playing song wise or style and genre, but for the money Faith Guitars IMO are absolutely outstanding and I am grateful to have one.
It makes me feel really bad that I dont sell them any more but sadly the direction of the brand has gone very much against my own personal direction.... Its really sad. One reason I dont even mention in my blog that I wrote is they now drop ship their online orders directly to end users - completely bypassing any dealer based quality control and based on my own experiences this is total madness - but again - its a case of developments out of my control - It was killing me off as I am so passionate about what I do. The brand has become extremely mainstream and I can see the pattern of what its becoming - but I am glad you love the guitar and no doubt its a lovely guitar.
@@RichardsGuitarshop Sorry to hear about the disconnect with the dealer network. You folks add a lot of value to the chain of POS events, normally regarding QA and assuring instruments are set up prior, as well as being a live local voice on the street to the consumer. Wish you all the best and thank you for your comment.
Hey Richard just a few places have stope selling faith guitars but would you still recommend them as i like the venus blood moon or can you recommend another at a similar price that i should go and try 👍
I did this exact thing! I bought a Venus online thinking it was a type of grand auditorium style, ried a Neptune in a store and was blown away by the sound. Not that the Venus was bad but I've learnt that I prefer larger guitars with more bottom end. I think I didn't consider the Neptune originally because it is described as a Jumbo but its more versatile than other Jumbo's in my opinion.
Much appreciated - I live in the Pacific North West - at present, my closest dealer is 1,200 miles (1,950Km) away. So, if I want a Faith Guitar (and I think I do) then the only thing I have to go by is CZcams - that presents certain problems. First - how was it recorded, mic's color sound, as do preamps and everything else in the chain. Second, what did the CZcams audio codec do to the sound (usually not good things.) So having several of the potentials compared together like this is the ONLY way I can really hear the difference - even if I'm not getting the actual sound (and it's a sure bet that I'm not.) So, hearing multiple guitars played in the same room, by the same guy, though the same mic - is incredibly helpful - even if I'm not hearing what you're hearing, I still get the relative difference. I think I like the PJE Legacy the best - but I really like both of the Blood Moon guitars too. Earth PJE, vs a Neptune Bloodmoon & Neptune PJE.
Hi Richard, I watched your video with interest as I feel it sends out an important message. I have three very nice acoustic guitars a Lowden 010 hog back and sides cedar top, a Lowden L27FC rosewood back and sides with a spruce top and a Taylor 600 special, maple back and sides with spruce top. They each have their own characteristics and I use them for different scenarios. I think you’ve hit the nail on the head with emphasising the importance of physically trying a guitar and comparing it to others before you buy it. One small detail I would also recommend is when you’ve found the one that you gravitate to I would also try a few identical models as every guitar is different. I know this sounds pedantic but I’ve played identical models which are noticeably different. The important point is trying a guitar before you buy it, I wouldn’t ever dream of buying a guitar without seeing and playing it first. It’s also good to get somebody else to play it for you so you can hear how the guitar projects and what it sounds like from a listening perspective. I’m sure these are points you personally are aware of but I’m thinking from a customer point of view these small details might be important.
Hi Steve - To be honest this opens up a WHOLE new video I want to do which is buying guitars online vs in store. There are so many reasons FOR and AGAINST both in store and online buying. Clearly most shops DON'T set guitars up in advance - but that is the same for in store and online sales! When buying in store you are at the mercy of what the shop wants to supply you and its very often not possible to get access to higher quality (less brand based) brands. So for example if you want to consider a Furch Blue GCM where do you go? So buy providing advice like I do ONLINE yes of course it highlights the benefits of trying guitars in person but also hopefully gives people confidence that if they come to me for advice I have 23 years of experience in this area and can help identify guitars that will suit a player when considering buying online. My theory is I am confident that buying from me online would be a far safer bet than buying from many bricks and mortar stores purely as A) you often dont get the guidance from the staff B) You often don't get the quality of selection - more likely stock held based on "popularity" and "easy sellers" C) the guitar will be sold with its factory setup. However - 100% agree with the basis of your reply and its swings and roundabouts as they say. I deal with a lot of people who feel very insecure in a guitar shop environment which can be another negative about guitar shops - very imposing and can be soul destroying places - not always of course. I always say if you can find a local shop who cares passionately about the stock profile, who will give you genuine honest guidance and will set the guitar up to perfection - Why come to me?!!!!!
Richards Guitars Good points, well made Richard. By no means do I wish to jeopardise your trade with my comments. I think that your videos are very informative and I’m 100% sure that the guitars you supply are as good as they can possibly be because you are passionate and obviously care greatly about your reputation. It is purely my own personal preference when buying. I’ll look forward to seeing the video about online versus shop buying and hopefully I’ll get chance to drop by some time and have a look round.
Great video Richard first comparison video I've found on faith guitars. I have the Venus Natural but I'm now thinking it sounds a bit harsh and I would really now prefer a more woody / mellow sound. The legacy neptune sounds amazing but out my price range. Will you get a chance to compare a mahogany Neptune to the cedar top and blood moon versions as these are now on my radar.
Well done! This was certainly educational - You are so right about 'buying with eyes' - I took my ole fairly low priced Epiphone Dove Pro (great looker!) along to record a demo with a friend yesterday...did a couple of takes on the Epi' and then saw my friend's Faith P.E. Model hanging up next to me, and so tried it on the next 'take' as it sounded so much brighter...I am guessing this was the 12 ply Spruce Front with Rosewood Body that sounded so good on your video (about 21 mins in) - All very inspiring....interestingly, I didn't rate the Neptune so much as I thought was a little too 'Rounded' sounding and possibly a little too many low tones and not so bright as the Venus models..This could be down to my older pair of ears though!!! Thanks for taking the time to do such a comprehensive demo anyway. It was very inspiring. (Mark Freeman).
Fab video, love Faith Guitars and now have 2, Faith Neptune Nexus Copper Black and just bought Faith Neptune FKN, love the pure sound.
Okay I admit the Neptune is more my kind of sound but to be honest I would be absolutely delighted to own any one of them !
You describe the tones here exactly as I hear them - 'scratchy', 'sweet', 'lush', 'mature' etc. It's probably no coincidence that I also am drawn to that Legacy Neptune which you said you 'keep coming back to'. I have just bought a Gibson J-185 and I think it's going back..
One of the few videos I've seen where the comparisons of different woods made sense, because you stuck to the same model of guitar throughout. Thanks.
As to the Neptune vs Venus, if I was going to strum it I'd probably go for the Neptune. But for finger picking maybe the Venus?
i would like an answer to that as well. is venus better for fingerpicking? by the way thanks a lot @richards guitars your videos are super helpful.
They all sound fab and very different. I have just ordered a Faith Blood Moon Neptune from you Richard, Can't wait for delivery when back in stock, i love the look of the blood moon burst and to my ear sounds great.
I’ve just ordered the Venus blood moon and just started to watch this video, not sure if it’s dread or anticipation lol, here goes, GULP !
Richard another interesting and thought provoking video - well done and keep it up - could I just add though - all those guitars presumably have their own pickups and electronics installed which must have an effect on the tone of the guitar - as such wouldn't it also be useful to demonstrate what they sound like through an acoustic amp. I know that wasn't the point of the video but when you discuss acoustic guitars it always surprises me when you omit this.
Hi Richard, I bought the Faith Neptune Cutaway following your guitar shootout🎸 thanks for sharing 🎶
hi there richard, i am an old boiler knocking on 70, heres my tupence worth, a guitar is shaped as it is to allow the air within to exit the hole from the resonating wood, basicaly a drum with a hole in it, anything that constricts the flow of this resonance will affect its sound i.e. cutting a chunk out of the figure of eight, cutting holes for electrical gubbins and coating the wood with plastic will affect the sound to its detriment, The best guitar was the one on the wall behind you I think a naked example, stradivarius [no doubt misspelt?] was verry particular about his secret varnish and knew a thing or two about these factors, my first guitar was an Echo ranger 6 lovely to hold flatish kneck, but the varnish was an early plastic and the chunk of wood inside for anchoring the kneck killed the volume, they were workaday guitars and you could throw them down the stair and the stairs would get damaged! As I said Im an old crock and : notechsavy: I never took to electricks and feel they have no place on an acoustic guitar I have two Faiths One cutaway mahogany all round for my grandson whoes only coming up two! and a naked spruce mahog neptune love it to bits, and my mother was a Martin !! My late brother played a Martin but I could never afford one, justabout lost thi entire ramble my first ever comment on anything ever ont tinterweb, The Drambuie is kicking in !! Keep up the good work and keep the faith , verry intertesting, Auld Jim.
Thanks for your first ever comment - and cheers! I was hoping he'd take the one off the wall behind him - I just bought one yesterday - my first proper guitar.
I at one time had 4 different guitars that all had different tops,and you certainly can tell a difference in sound .From midrange to mellow,to woody(round sound),to bright.Thanks for the overall sound bites,as it shows the big sound differential between guitar tops and body wood.👍✌🎸😎
Love the video. I ended up with a Venus High Gloss. It is a versatile all rounder. I play a lot of fingerstyle and flat picking. So the clarity and attack of the rosewood + spruce in a smaller body works well for me. It is still a great guitar for bashing out chords as well. It depends a lot on what you play and what you like. Always play before you buy.
If you were more of a chord/ rhythm player which one would you get?
@@brendangray probably neptune since bigger body means fuller sound which is crucial for rhythm playing
Really useful in terms of narrowing down which to try out, prefer the sound of the Neptune with ceder top....thanks
Hi Richard
Great demo. Is there much different in the body depth between the venus, Neptune and Jupiter. I have a venus and find its very bright sound. Im looking for more low end sound. I played a Gibson humming bird and it was no where near as good as the faith so sticking with faith either the Neptune or Jupiter. Cheers
Richard you're a bit crazy but spot-on with your choice of the two. It was haywire at times but an excellent demo, really got to hear the subtle tonewood differences. Also, you have turned me on to the PJE Legacy range.
Serious guitars indeed, I already own a Saluda maple but these Faith guitars are just incredible, irrespective of price.
Don’t suppose you fancy doing this again with a few Neptune Vs Jupiter? ;)....
This was a great video ,I so enjoyed it ..could you do a video on the Faith Guitars Classic Burst Series Neptune it`s got a cedar mahogany combination..Thanks.
OK I am back now - sorry Richard I only lasted 7 minutes before I had to get my acoustic out and jam the daylights out of it. Right on with the video.
A interesting video.
Most of the instruments you showed, sounded a bit too bright and even tinny, to me. I wouldn’t have been attracted to any of them.
By chance, I played a Faith yesterday in a music shop. It was brilliant - in real life.
Interesting. I didn't find this video until recently. Bought my Faith Legacy Neptune (truly amazing!) about 18 months ago. My local store stock Faith and I had thought I'd be getting the Blood Moon Venus. I loved it and had 'decided' I'd go for it, when the assistant put the Legacy Neptune in my hand 'for comparison'....... I was in the shop a long time, swapping back and forth... It cost a lot more, but I couldn't leave without the Legacy Neptune. For me it had had more depth, warmth. I've never regretted the purchase.
Couldnt agree more and I hope that also came across in the video too.
Fantastic video, really informative.
I want to buy the Venus version and use it for my own channel.
If you read this: Can you assist me on getting this guitar to Europe?
The venus is definitely brighter in tone and I prefer the warmer sound of the other you've just saved me the dissatisfaction of being unhappy with a £700 purchase. Cheers😁
Steven Williamson my pleasure !! But did you buy it from me?!😱🤪😚
@@RichardsGuitarshop I would if you can beat the gak deal Im gonna get on finance 🤝
Steven Williamson 😆. Glad my videos helped gak sell you a guitar! Trust me. Our price, interest free credit, free setup and quality control and 6 and 12 months free checks and resets.... and me to help you all hours any day of the week? Not to mention my advice that helped you in the first place. Is pretty unbeatable
@@RichardsGuitarshop sounds good send me a link pls
It's pretty obvious that the man loves them all. He just can't help it.
I enjoyed this video because you are funny. Thank you.
Love my Venus - I'm your fire - at your desire
Once somebody has played one of your Furch guitars, I don't think they would want the Faith anymore. I know they are more expensive but it is worth saving and waiting.
Richard ,, loving your vids ! Love your randomness 😂😂
Great video just to hear the different combos I normally go for the warmer sound and I was looking towards the rose wood back and sides but actually prefer the warmer tones of the Neptune....for the love of guitars I need to think again🙄
Made it to the end! Maltesers and a brew lol
I bought a Neptune naked cedar top a year ago after visiting my local pmt.
Love at first sight and then i preferred the sound to spruce but they do all sound great. My first guitar!
Well done sir!!! Enjoy the Maltesers - you have earned them!
Just found this video after already ordering a naked Neptune without trying it first 🙈 it hasn’t arrived yet and I was starting to rethink my decision. loved the video, very informative! And you’re adorable too so I’ll subscribe haha. Fingers crossed 🤞 I love the Neptune
I dont think you have bought it from us - but let me know if you have any issues but in theory the Neptune will give you a fuller sound than the venus and I would 100% take a Naked Neptune over the Naked Venus - as long as its not too big for you. Should sound nice though. Thank you for subscribing!!! I will take adorable any day of the week - thank you ! ☺☺
Richards Guitars no I didn’t unfortunately, I stumbled upon your page searching for reviews of the guitar and looking forward to watching more 😊☺️
I'm looking to get my first solid cut professional quality guitar. My mind is levitating towards the Faith neptune blue moon. Would you say that this guitar is the best you can get for that money?
I am so sorry to sound negative and you have to take advice from all areas but please read the following blog. It provides links to personal receommendations based on 27 years in the industry. Times are changing.... rguitars.co.uk/blogs/guitars/why-richards-guitars-no-longer-sell-faith-guitars
Excellent video and honest ..They all sound different some are brighter and some are warmer ..personal I like the naked series..lovely natural sound ..Thought you would get more bass sound out of those ..great guitars ..Like a bass heavier sound ..great demo and interesting..
Liked them all, tried a small bodied furch a while back and it was fantastic,
I own a Faith Naked Venue electro acoustic and I used it to write and record on my three albums Its a fabulous guitar with a lovely tone and feel. I did try a lot of acoustic in the store and this model was it for me. Considering I never heard of Faith before but heard of Patrick Eagle guitars. Like I said that the one for But that's my opinion.
Hi, did you get the chance to compare the Faith Neptune PJE with the Cort Gold A8? The specs look very similar, but a price difference of around 350€.
Richard, would be great if you could include the Earth model too, as this is new and many may not have heard it. For me i'm looking for the OM size and seriously considering the Earth
The Earth is beautiful. The Earth was the first model I heard that inspired me to get the Neptune in. It has all the same wood tone characteristics for someone looking for the smaller OM tone.
He is playing an Earth Legacy, just forgetting to call it that, dont know what he is on.
@@lentas08 I am playing the neptune
Hi Neil. I would deifnitely like to do a comparison video yes. Both stunning
@@RichardsGuitarshop Apologies, it got a bit confusing, Im playing with the Trembesi Neptune and the Earth Legacy, I thought you brought out an Earth torrified at the end, never mind. Compared the Earth with top range Martyn and Taylor, much preferred the Earth, however I will stick with the Neptune Trembesi for the full rich range it gives. Cheers
Hi
I'm looking at buying a smaller guitar as i've buggered my right shoulder, I've mostly dreadnoughts, After a very short time of playing it feels like someone is sticking a dagger in to it!
Have to say I prefer the toppy, Brighter sound of the Venus and probably would be able to play it for longer before it gets too painful!!
Many thanks for the revue of these instruments, Enjoyed it muchly!!
Hi. . If you like a much slimmer guitar check out the LAG model. They so a super slimline version which could be ideal for you. Its not all solid but has a solid top - superb eq system and look beautiful. Will definitely be ideal for the shoulder problem.
After 2 hrs of testing few electro acoustic Lags and Eastman finally paid for black Venus and waiting for deliver. Forgot to ask what gauge of string was fitted with?
It felt honest and was helpful.
Great and informative video thanks. Might want to check the olde button fly is done up before the next video lol 😂😉
The blood moon wood is trembesi (or monkeypod), which is over 50% heavier and more than twice as hard as western red cedar. Cedar is less brittle. I think the properties of the wood type are are important consideration when discussing the tone because it’s all about how the wood vibrates. I’m a bit cynical that some types of wood are chosen more for how they look than how they sound. Of course, for some, it’s all about how good the guitar looks hanging on their wall I guess.
Thanks Richard all your vidios are delightfully odd ....what was the small Furch you played? I would have a hard time choosing between the Torrified top and the spuce and rosewood one
LOL!!! Its strange how when you have a bunch of nasty little forumites bitching about me calling me "odd" it hurts so much but when someone embraces it - its the greatest of compliments. The Furch was the Furch Blue G CMC .... rguitars.co.uk/products/gs-20-cm-c . Click on that link for 15 customer reviews - long standing favorite of mine from this wonderful Czech manufacturer.
The PJE spruce/rosewood has a beautiful tone; I play D35, not dissimilar. This is a bargain at that price.
Owned both. I also have a Venus Bloodmoon having being bought from yourselves, great service btw. Imho the Neptune is better sounding when compared to the similar spec venus, but the Bloodmoon is just a different sound. From a live point of view the smaller body venus makes it an easier night. Finàl thought, a friend who plays a Taylor 4 series borrowed my Bloodmoon and commented that it was a lovely guitar to play. Nice to stand back and watch a top player get the best out of my guitar.
I'd like to choose the neptune based on the sound. But having tried both, the neptune is just too big for me to feel comfortable playing it at this point.
Love the Venus..
I’ve tried both and both superb I did however buy the blood moon Neptune and it’s amazing
Hi, I hear the Neptune being described as a Baby Jumbo, how does that compare to a Dreadnought sized guitar?
I think the problem is that you’ve got too many guitars Rich! Ha ha. Great video as I’m on the cusp of purchasing my Faith Venus… but now possibly the Neptune.
I have a left handed Faith Venus Naked Cherry Burst, which is Cedar top and Mahogany sides and backs, all solid wood and great guitar for under £500, but a bit prone to dings because of the 'Naked' thin Satin finish. I'd love a blood moon model, to keep it company! ;-)
Excellent video. I was seriously thinking of getting a Venus. Was. A Neptune it is. Thanks.
Bought a 2013 Neptune, natural - spruce top, mahogany back and sides. Looks utterly plain and simple, but plays and sounds great. In 2014 they brought out high gloss versions which, imho, look horrendous.
Faith Apollo FASCE Saturn Cut/Electro Cedar/Amara Electro Acoustic Guitar : Sir could you please help me out with this. Should i go for this one? This particular Guitar is for the Indian market . Solid Cedar Top - Exotic amara back and side . Plz advise. Thanks.
Problem with the Venus blood moon is it plays as good as it looks.but we tend to be put off because of its looks.just like a beautiful woman
I could hear the difference with half decent headphones on.
The neptune had that extra fullness almost approaching a dreadnought esk sound.
You could say the venus has a more focused sound which could be described as very balanced across all strings.
I can see how both would serve a place in recording or in a big band with a few acoustic guitarists.
Now the Patrick eggle guitar to me has the neptune sound but the higher string (notes) have that balance that isn't slightly muffled like in the neptune. I agree neptune sounds great but if one can afford the eggle I would go for that.
Apologies for the rant ;) typing as I listen, so you get my first thoughts.
Hey Richard - That PJE Neptune really has my eye. I'd love to try one if I could find one within a reasonable drive. It looks like everything I want in a guitar as best I can tell from the videos I've seen. How does it feel compared to a Taylor grand auditorium (such as an 814 or 314) regarding the neck and easy of play? I have arthritis so this is a major concern for me.
It has a similar nut width at 45mm and we set every guitar up to perfection - so we would for example listen to your needs RE the arthritic fingers. As you can imagine we attract a lot of people with those kind of requirements so we can consider lighter strings and if you have a lighter touch we can shave down our levels a little lower still with the proviso that you need to play it a little lighter. It would play incredibly though!
@@RichardsGuitarshop Thanks for the response! I'm planning to purchase a new guitar within the next 3 months. I am really drawn to both the Eastman AC422 and above, and also the Faith Neptunes, PJE and otherwise. Based on a review you did between the Eastman and Faith, I think the Eastman may be the best choice, but I'll give that more consideration before pulling the trigger. Thanks again for your help.
just wondered if you had made a decision yet@@srbell
@@MissBooksmith I haven't made a purchase yet - will be a couple more months. I'm waiting so I can pay cash rather than buy on credit. It's most likely going to be an Eastman ac422ce or Faith Neptune (or PJE Neptune), but I'm still also considering a Taylor as that is really the sound and feel I like. Even though I think they're overpriced, there is the advantage of the easily adjustable neck. Tough choice, but bang for the buck seems to favor the Eastman so far.
Bigger guitar a bigger sound and a fuller sound. But I love the smaller guitars. A more comfortable guitar, most people will be drawn to
Enjoyed the video. I guess different tone woods excel at different types of music. Playing the same chords to compare all of them is a tad biased. A blue grass folk/ blues player wouldn’t play test them with chords to find the best tone. What I’m trying to say is you’re not playing all the guitars to their strengths.
Agreed to that. Still pretty sure I'm getting a Venus classic burst (online! For fingerstyle).
But still, a great vid, totally worth the two or three times I watched this half hour.
Only thing I miss is the Fishman blend on the classic series. I got one in an older guitar of mine (Fishman aero blend) and it's simply amazing!
Cheers from Brazil!
My preference is for the Faith PJE model
I think cedar is more for fingerstyle lite too the touch
I have the Faith neptune Trembessi, the Eclipse Venus, but the Earth Legacy is another dimension, more like a top end Martyn, My wife has it now lol!.
i've got a faith nexus venus cognac and disappointed, feels too stiff to play, despite a pro set up been made
I thought these models were made with Trembesi top, sides and back??!!
I have a blood moon Neptune, bought locally (Merchant City Music Glasgow, excellent store) as I wanted to play before buying. I have to say it sounds better than the one in your video, is it the mike, or the compression, making them all sound a bit thin and jangly even listening on cans.
I'd played the Venus Bloodmoon and the Venus Natural in the shop and was not convinced by either. When I later saw the Neptune had come in I dropped by just to try it and while there's still less bass than I'd expect on a guitar that size, an offer price of £699 clinched the deal. IMO I got a better instrument than the Martin Road series dreadnaught I also considered. It also looks amazing. It is opening up nicely and medium Martin retro strings have also improved the tone.
I have just bought a legacy earth, are they the same dimensions as the venus?? I'm confused 😕
Similar. The one in the video is the neptune
WARNING!!!! ITS A LONG ONE! Get a cup of tea.... maybe some nice biscuits.... Personally I think its very useful though - but I could be wrong.
Great. Saved me a few hundred on one that may not be right. I need to try some. Shame I don't work in Stratford any more. What was the last one you played, the stripped down. and thanks
What chords are you playing .please
The Engleman sounds super, worth the extra imo.
Got a faith .Nice
I thought these guitars were back, top, and sides trembesi wood.
Wot you been smoking? That torrified sitka guitar is a Faith Earth Legacy, same body size as the Venus, not a Neptune.
A left handed Neptune blood moon isn't available, so impossible to compare for lefties, and this video has effectively talked me out of buying a blood moon venus ...
Not impossible to compare but impossible to buy yes!
@@RichardsGuitarshop There i was, looking at your Venus blood moon lefty on your web site for an amazing price, but you're right, a bigger bodied guitar is always going to sound bigger and fuller and more detailed etc etc.
@@xetexuk12 The venus is by far the biggest seller - as I was saying in the video. I totally agree that the neptune should be available left handed too and maybe one day it will. So sorry.
@@RichardsGuitarshop Hey thats not your fault Richard, but maybe you could have a word with Mr Eggle about a special run of lefty BM Neptunes exclusive to yourselves ... just a thought.