@@princessofthecape2078 to be fair she did take the bridge officers test so she’s actually qualified to be in command unlike troi in that episode when the ship was disabled
The stations can be transferred from one terminal to another. As long as you have the right security clearance, you can man any station from anywhere on the ship. Maybe even from a data pad as you walk from one place to another.
Funny how they just say "fire phasers" or "fire torpedoes" while in other episodes they need to "ready phasers" or "lock phasers on target" before firing them.
According to schematics I've seen of the bridge of the Enterprise-D from where that security guard appears behind Riker at 3:15 is supposed to be the bathroom. It means that the poor guy was probably in there taking a dump when the shooting started and had to go running out there before he was done wiping his ass.
2:57 - The Borg who were beamed in were not given any advance notice, they were just beamed in while queuing for lunch in the canteen, hence the surprised look.
"Humans again? They leave a bad aftertaste. How about a Ferengi sandwich instead." Borg always look like that. The Borg haven't discovered coffee yet. As I remember it, they use collective consensus to make decisions. That makes their reaction slow, but they don't seem to care they sacrifice a few individuals before action happens, they consider them expendable.
@randomguy9777 They are slow indeed, in the next shot the Enterprise hasn't moved at all. In fact, the other ship flies right overhead. I think "Evasive Maneuvers" is like "Hull integrity down to 50%!" or "Damage on decks four through six!". It's just something they say to add tension with no real impact to the plot.
You can tell the borg will beam aboard WELL in advance of it happening because of the nervous security officer in the back at 2:35 not so subtly holding his phaser for like a full 30 seconds.
Disabling shields and boarding the enemy ship is one of the favorite tactics of the Borg. If you were a Security officer on a ship under attack by the Borg, you'd be nervously holding onto your phaser as well.
It’s cool to see Geordi sitting in Deanna’s chair here as opposed to standing at the Engineering console behind Worf. The Picard-LaForge dynamic is really interesting.
GEORDI: Shields down to 80 percent. Compensating with auxiliary power. PICARD: You can do that with these terminals? GEORDI: Well, it's a Galaxy Class ship, sir. You can do anything at any terminal. PICARD: Tea! Earl grey, hot. GEORDI: Uh, except that. PICARD: Mr. La Forge? GEORDI: I'm fired, aren't I? PICARD: No, but get out of the comfy chair. I think it makes me look better if I'm flanked by incompetent officers.
I have imagined that if something were to have happened to Riker, and he would be incapacitated long term, it would be LaForge who would take his place as First Officer, not Data. 👨🏿✈️
The interaction between those 3 bridge officers was the highlight of the show for me. It's nice to see extra's get some spoken dialogue every once in awhile.
I agree, Endless. choosing _one_ favorite thing about the series would be too much, lots of things about the series were 100 out of 100. But how the crew worked together, has to be on lots of people's top ten list. 😀 Now that I am a bit older, I appreciate how Star Trek set a good example, and the Characters were good role models. The way they all got along, and worked as a team is a stellar example.
@@trololkhil9868 Hey! _Your_ Detective Aceveda from "The Shield"! 😒 Wait, I take that back. 🤔 I mean, haven't you ever been looking over old historical photos and seen someone who looks like you? In Aceveda's time, there were only over six billion people in the world. In the time of TNG, there will be .... 📟📈 🌍👶🌏👣 😵❓❔❔ ..... A few _hundred billion_ people. Surely some of them will look a lot like individual people who are alive today. 💡
The security guard who came on to the bridge after Franklin is killed. That was the head he walked out of. He went to the toilet. Came out, colleague dead and Borg on the bridge. His security report, "I..I...was having a shit..."
Acknowledgement denied. She knew of only one trick, the metaphasic shield setting, and if the Borg had been prepared for it, but that would have been the end of the Enterprise. 🙁
@@TheNoiseySpectator I would say it was more a continuation of the fact that sheilding was featured in another episode and was fresh in her mind #defendcrusher
I have one of those in Star trek online. Its called a juggernaut and it is a good tanky plasma weapon platform. Is one of the very rare Borg ships you can actually get in the game.
Now I get why they wouldn't let you operate a Borg Cube but I think it's a shame that ST:O doesn't even let players operate a Borg Sphere or one of those smaller scout ships.
@@OneofInfinity. I said I agree. I didn't miss your point. Are you now making a point that you're gay, or what? I can't expand upon a comment with an observation of my own?
@@colin8696908 In her defense, they were firing right through the shields and Riker didn't say take us to Warp to get us out of orbit, stat! True, though. She was at the helm.
Based on the way we know transwarp conduits work, those torpedoes should have actually entered the conduit as well. That's exactly how the Enterprise was able to get into the conduit in pursuit of the this ship just a little while later in the episode, just followed them in. So those torpedoes should have already done that originally.
Interesting, I'm not well versed on the inner mechanics of photon torpedoes but perhaps the gravimetric shear generated from the transwarp conduit interfered with the torpedoes' ability to block any stray neutrino emissions which would in turn could possibly prevent them from entering the conduit? Just a thought?
I LoL'd when I saw that Borg drone dodge that phaser fire, then fire back. I don't remember ever seeing any Borg move that fast, or with that level of agility.
In this episode they were a unimatrix that split off from the Coliective thanks to the virus from Hugh, and ended up with Lore as their leader. They were, in Riker's words, "fast... aggressive.. almost vicious... more like fighting Klingons than Borg."
2:23 When you're that one extra on the bridge and you can't sync your shaking movements as well as the rest of the cast, but you're trying REALLY hard!
Smart move to show the Borg gang's ship firing an energy beam that's Borg-green but looks like traditional Star Trek munitions. While they'd get less specific with Borg weapons later on, the early Borg used tractor beams and cutting beams in tandem to dissect their targets clinically. These Borg's weapons match their emotional aggression.
It's not, that's James Horan, who later played a similar role in Seaquest. But by coincidence he also had a big role in Beverly's season 6 episode that introduced the whole Metaphasic shielding in the first place.
3:53 I'm surprised Jo'Bril up at the tactical station didn't sabotage the ship to let the borg win, the way how Beverly thwarted him the last time they were on a shuttlecraft together, scarily close to a star. :(
They were hard to defeat in this episode. The D was no match for the Borg ship and had to hide in the sun and generate solar flares and commit subterfuge to defeat them like in "Best of Both Worlds"
I think that´s an assimilated, to borg standards converted Alien Ship. visible engines and windows give it away. The backstory could be awesome, it could be thousands of years old, since borg tech can just heal itself. The last visible glimpse of a once besieged and overwhelmed high tech civilisation. Then again, most borg ships could be thousands of years old.
I used to wonder that too. But I think it may be actual Borg technology. Reason: if you watch Voyager episode Scorpion Part 2, when Seven of Nine is working on converting a Borgweapon on her controls with Janeway and Tuvok she displays a “weapon” on her specs screen and it looks just like this vessel. Very brief but you’ll notice if you are looking.
The depiction of captain and XO both barking orders under fire is fantasy and a recipe for disaster. There must only be one person responsible for the safety of the ship.
In Descent, Part II, I thought I recognized the Star Trek actor in the role of Lieutenant Barnaby as James Horan from the early 1980s and he played as Grayson in the Highlander TV series from 1993. He does a lot of Star Trek work and I notice he does a ton of voice acting in a slew of video games.
Commander Crusher is skilled in sick bay and the command chair. All ship officers and NCOs are expected to take command if they are the senior most officer still functional.
Not sure about that. Theres a later Episode where she discusses her choice to take and pass the Command course. I find her a bit vacant during these scenes, honestly. She doesn't strike me as a leader at all, or a particularly good actor.
Real militaries don't act like that. There are LINE officers and there are STAFF officers -- she's staff. These functional specialists (Medical; Transporter Operations; most Science specialties; Diplomacy Support; Food Service, etc.) have non-combat roles and are NOT in the chain of command. Even if they outrank everyone else, in most militaries the most senior available LINE officer -- even of lower rank -- would take command for as long as the threat remained.
@@roberthaworth8991 I was told that military people are soldiers first and their trade second. Even cooks, office admin, medical, logistics, PR, mechanics, and the high ranking command officers are expected to fight in the front when the situation is really bad, like headquarters is being invaded by the enemy.
@@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 Yes, of course -- one saying is, "Every [US] Marine a rifleman" -- and there are times when staff officers did pick up guns and do well (one US Army DENTIST killed some 90 Japanese with a machinegun when, in island fighting, the US line collapsed and his clinic was overrun). But command authority doesn't *automatically* devolve on the highest-ranking soldier present. In WWII, for ex., Tech Sergeants would command squads and platoons only as a last resort; usually a more junior combat-qualified NCO would take over before that could happen. An E-6 techie was expected to defer command to a combat-rated E-5 -- b/c the TS was considered to be part of the SUPPORT troops, and the E-5 was the one being SUPPORTED. At the other end of the rank scale, a colonel (O-6) on a division Planning Staff would not lead troops, while an O-6 commanding one of the division's component regiments did. The Luftwaffe routinely assigned the most appropriately-skilled pilot to lead its missions, such that O-3 and O-4 pilots sometimes found themselves taking orders in the air from more-experienced NCOs; this was standard operating procedure in that arm.
@@roberthaworth8991 I saw a video on that badass US Army dentist. He was fairly high ranked too, a colonel?He took over a machine gun and cut down several waves of attacking Japanese soldiers in the Pacific. Dead Japanese soldiers were piled up all around him like a circular wall of corpses. The video reported that even the Japanese were psychologically fearful of him being like some form of devil or something.
Does anyone notice that when the Enterprise D went into the energy distortion, that the inertial dampners AND navigation failed? Sound familiar? It was when Voyager entered slipstream and their dampners and navigation also failed. No spoilers, but it did have a terrible effect on Voyager. Enterprise D being a larger ship might have had less damage due to its greater mass. Also, they did not remain as long within the slipstream. So basically a ship entering slipstream requires a massive amount of computing power to operate the ship systems to compensate for any effects within the slipstream itself. With the Borg, they are all (drones and ship) connected to the main computer or in a Borg ship, the Vinculum. So their computing power is strong enough to allow their ships to easily enter and exit this space on the fly. Star Wars seems to use AI for its slipstream operations as well. So the deciding factor in slipstream is a powerful and fast enough computer to "hold it all together" during a flight through it. So it seem either an extremely powerful computer, or an AI is needed for this level of transit.
I just noticed that fire torpedo button is enormous. Must be so they can still hit it while they are being tossed around from combat, or the actor thought go for the biggest button.
“Why is the tactical officer reading out the status of the warp engines and not the conn?” “We already have two speaking bridge extras on this one and you want a third?”
I would hope that button to lauch the photon torpedos takes a very deliberate push. You wouldn't want to launch what are essentially 65 megaton thermonuclear weapons that are 'only' a bit over 25% more powerful than the largest nuke ever tested to this date... If I designed that button you would really have to mash it, which might explain why worf is often times the one pressing it!
It's also funny how in other episodes they needed to specify the torpedo yield and spread, and even where on the enemy's ship they should be targeted. Yet here, it was just "fire torpedoes" LOL
I have often overlooked part 2 but I think the battle scene between them and the Borg ship and them trying to flee it as they try to ambush the Borg in that galaxy's sun is more intense than part 1. For the most part in part 1 they were toying with the Enterprise to lure Data with Lore. And there wasn't any real attack except the opening scene between the Federation officers and the Borg drones. That and the Cardassian episodes of that season. Two advanced foes the Federation were not prepared for. Oh what awaited the Federation beyond the Cardassians and the Borg - the Breen, Jem'Hadar and the Dominion
@@raven4k998 Never said they were. LMAO The Defiant and the Intrepid are easily more powerful. Yes the great Galaxy Class has weapons (but even they got out of date). Voyager may have been week in weapons. But they had stronger defenses and speed and propulsion. They were post-Enterprise D. So they had to be built to at least flee the Borg successfully. Plus Voyager has superior shielding. Jellico had it right. Janeway was a great captain. As powerful and excellent as the Galaxy Class, they were not invulnerable to more advanced enemies like Cardassians, Borg, Jem'Hadar. And Jellico knew this
@@robjackson5245 Since when cardassians were more advanced? they were a minor race that was less advanced in all series. Even Ferengi had more advanced ships. Also Defiant wasnt more powerfull then Galaxy, it was roughly on pair with Lakota (an refited Excelsior class). Intrepid was also inferior in firepower and tankyness when you look at the same time dates. If you compare a ship from 20-30 years ago like TNG then they were more or less probably on pair, as even if you look what TNG Galaxy's phasers did to a borg Cube (Defiant ones dont get near that still).
She also says "Helm, get us out of here" and "fire phasers" which are some of the most unscientific commands I've ever heard. Get us out of here where, exactly? At what speed? Fire phasers where? What strength?
@@80s_Boombox_Collector You don't have to micromanage every command, helm already had a course plotted as they were only holding position to transport people back up (also the reason the shields were down) and tactical knows what to shoot at and how hard without captain holding their hand, this is shown pretty well in a voyager episode nightingale where harry kim is doing everything on the bridge by himself instead of just giving orders to bridge crew despite being the captain at the time
I wonder why, in the second scene with the Borg ship, the Enterprise got caught in "some kind of energy matrix" that pulled it inside, when the photon torpedoes fired in the previous scene did not get pulled in. And when starships turn, why do they bank against an atmosphere, and why does sound travel, in the vacuum of space?
I believe the guy on the weapons there with Crusher in Command is the same actor that tried to steal the Metaphasic Shielding that they soon used after this. xD
You know we're in deep shit when Crusher has to take the bridge with this week's extras.
Yeah. It's a pressing situation
Lol, I was JUST thinking that. I mean, granted, she does become a captain herself later. But... yeah. If Crusher is in command, the situation is grim.
In fairness she had less enterprises blow up under her command than riker did.
To be fair, it's the best part of the episode though.
@@princessofthecape2078 to be fair she did take the bridge officers test so she’s actually qualified to be in command unlike troi in that episode when the ship was disabled
I love how Geordi can do engineering from any panel that’s in front of him.
The stations can be transferred from one terminal to another.
As long as you have the right security clearance, you can man any station from anywhere on the ship.
Maybe even from a data pad as you walk from one place to another.
All he has to do is enter his username and password and poof engineering systems are online.
See in 1992 when this video came out I could see how you may have a hard time with this concept but seriously it's 2023, why is this even a question?
He's just that talented lol
@@SuckerFreeGear IKR we can do that right now...
Can we all just give a 👍 to that Borg for an Epic Phaser Dodge lol.
there was Ferengi shooting Worf that did very similar. They need to fight each other.
Lolol
HOORAY 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Phasers fire at the speed of water
👍
The actor that played Franklin really gave his all in this scene. I think he really felt that this was his big one shot.
(At least they didn't put him in a red shirt)
he was ready with his hand on the phaser the whole time, only to blow it when his moment came.
That is a big ass FIRE button when the ensign shoots the torpedoes at 0:28 lol
You don't want to risk someone missing the button in a crisis situation.
@@Hedning1390 "Please madam!! That is a torpedo launch initiator......"
I thought he was going to put his hand through it lol
when the buttoms dont actually do anything and its all a plexiglass screen with projector style overlays
Funny how they just say "fire phasers" or "fire torpedoes" while in other episodes they need to "ready phasers" or "lock phasers on target" before firing them.
According to schematics I've seen of the bridge of the Enterprise-D from where that security guard appears behind Riker at 3:15 is supposed to be the bathroom. It means that the poor guy was probably in there taking a dump when the shooting started and had to go running out there before he was done wiping his ass.
He wasn't supposed to die- he had the wrong color shirt on.
Das Boot had a scene almost exactly like that. Sub was crash diving, and someone in the bathroom jumped out bare bottomed and ran down the corridor.
He didn't die! Have you ever seen anyone take a dump on any Star Trek show? :)
I think they get it beamed out of them into space...
I'm sure he had the toilet "sonic shower" his ass. I would hope we've moved past smearing around our poop with paper in the future. lmao
@@grodelreal They use 3 seashells instead by then...
2:57 - The Borg who were beamed in were not given any advance notice, they were just beamed in while queuing for lunch in the canteen, hence the surprised look.
"Humans again? They leave a bad aftertaste. How about a Ferengi sandwich instead."
Borg always look like that. The Borg haven't discovered coffee yet. As I remember it, they use collective consensus to make decisions. That makes their reaction slow, but they don't seem to care they sacrifice a few individuals before action happens, they consider them expendable.
@@econecoff1725 _"The Borg haven't discovered coffee yet."_
That wasn't until Voyager started making its journey into the Delta Quadrant. >:)
Lucky they were just at the buffet. . . could have been on the bog!
The Borg didn't use a canteen.
And security still missed.
2:25 Meanwhile in Kindergarten on the ship, watercolors everywhere and children covered in paint.
"Ryker: "Franklin's dead Sir"
Picard: "But we gave him a gold shirt! How did they get through that? What typeof technology is this?!"
beans, it was powerd by beans. all of there tec has a healthy green glow from the digestion of many many spoons of beans.
Gold and red swapped places for TNG
Wrong channel
🤣
What I got from it was more of a "Oh well."
"Evasive Maneuvers!"
Enterprise slowly flies by the enemy ship.
Sooo funny!!! Just as bad as Franklin holding onto the wall behind Data when the ship is violently shaking. I needed that laugh!! 😁
Should have tried just listing lazily to the left
@randomguy9777 They are slow indeed, in the next shot the Enterprise hasn't moved at all. In fact, the other ship flies right overhead.
I think "Evasive Maneuvers" is like "Hull integrity down to 50%!" or "Damage on decks four through six!". It's just something they say to add tension with no real impact to the plot.
"Where did they go? There they are! Listing lazily to the left. Go left! Left! Left! Boy, this guy knows some maneuvers"
Ryker: "Franklin's dead." Picard: (Shrugs) "Is everyone else alright?" Now THAT'S leadership! lol
no need crying over spilled milk, or some crewmen not part of main cast.
Picard: ".... did anyone *important* get hurt?"
I didn’t notice, was Franklin wearing a red shirt?
"Red Shirt"
To baldly go where no bald man has gone before
You can tell the borg will beam aboard WELL in advance of it happening because of the nervous security officer in the back at 2:35 not so subtly holding his phaser for like a full 30 seconds.
Or he’s a really good security officer knowing shields are down and the borg are known to beam
Disabling shields and boarding the enemy ship is one of the favorite tactics of the Borg. If you were a Security officer on a ship under attack by the Borg, you'd be nervously holding onto your phaser as well.
Would've loved to have seen him pointing his phaser at the screen and going PEW PEW.
Star Fleet has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in that historical era.
Maybe that guy is just kind of jittery all the time.😦
3:14. Or "was" kind of jittery all the time. 😞
It’s cool to see Geordi sitting in Deanna’s chair here as opposed to standing at the Engineering console behind Worf. The Picard-LaForge dynamic is really interesting.
It certainly is
GEORDI: Shields down to 80 percent. Compensating with auxiliary power.
PICARD: You can do that with these terminals?
GEORDI: Well, it's a Galaxy Class ship, sir. You can do anything at any terminal.
PICARD: Tea! Earl grey, hot.
GEORDI: Uh, except that.
PICARD: Mr. La Forge?
GEORDI: I'm fired, aren't I?
PICARD: No, but get out of the comfy chair. I think it makes me look better if I'm flanked by incompetent officers.
@@Josh_Fredman Haha, Josh that was too much. lol
It was a great shot, for sure.
I have imagined that if something were to have happened to Riker, and he would be incapacitated long term, it would be LaForge who would take his place as First Officer, not Data. 👨🏿✈️
The interaction between those 3 bridge officers was the highlight of the show for me. It's nice to see extra's get some spoken dialogue every once in awhile.
The security dude played other aliens in the series before. Also I recall he was one of the final selections for the role of Riker.
3:45 dafuq that is detective aceveda from the shield lol.
I agree, Endless. choosing _one_ favorite thing about the series would be too much, lots of things about the series were 100 out of 100.
But how the crew worked together, has to be on lots of people's top ten list. 😀
Now that I am a bit older, I appreciate how Star Trek set a good example, and the Characters were good role models.
The way they all got along, and worked as a team is a stellar example.
@@trololkhil9868 Hey! _Your_ Detective Aceveda from "The Shield"! 😒
Wait, I take that back. 🤔
I mean, haven't you ever been looking over old historical photos and seen someone who looks like you?
In Aceveda's time, there were only over six billion people in the world.
In the time of TNG, there will be ....
📟📈 🌍👶🌏👣 😵❓❔❔
..... A few _hundred billion_ people.
Surely some of them will look a lot like individual people who are alive today. 💡
@@oldtwinsna8347 Really? a candidate to play Riker? 😃
Who is he? What other roles has he played?
The security guard who came on to the bridge after Franklin is killed. That was the head he walked out of. He went to the toilet. Came out, colleague dead and Borg on the bridge. His security report, "I..I...was having a shit..."
"I miss my shift ONCE and some bastard gets himself shot. Now I have to take the fall."
I would just like to acknowledge how much of a bad ass Dr. Crusher is.
Acknowledgement denied.
She knew of only one trick, the metaphasic shield setting, and if the Borg had been prepared for it, but that would have been the end of the Enterprise. 🙁
@@TheNoiseySpectator I would say it was more a continuation of the fact that sheilding was featured in another episode and was fresh in her mind #defendcrusher
One of the very few times a Galaxy class managed to take a hit without immediately losing shields and main power.
(IKR, it's like I could take down an orbiting Federation Galaxy class ship with one of those powerful green lasers you get from Amazon)
I have one of those in Star trek online. Its called a juggernaut and it is a good tanky plasma weapon platform. Is one of the very rare Borg ships you can actually get in the game.
That ship is a beast
There are partially assimilated ships you can fly. But this one is the only actual borg designed vessel that a player can use.
Now I get why they wouldn't let you operate a Borg Cube but I think it's a shame that ST:O doesn't even let players operate a Borg Sphere or one of those smaller scout ships.
Crusher proving once again she's excellent in the chair.
She and Commander Troi are command officer certified. Agreed. Gates was really pretty. I forgot how pretty she was in those days.
@@brianwesley28 Gates being good looking has nothing to do with my comment, way to miss it entirely.
@@OneofInfinity. I said I agree. I didn't miss your point. Are you now making a point that you're gay, or what? I can't expand upon a comment with an observation of my own?
@@brianwesley28 troi should never be in command, she nearly destroyed the enterprise when that disaster happened and she had to take over.
@@colin8696908 In her defense, they were firing right through the shields and Riker didn't say take us to Warp to get us out of orbit, stat! True, though. She was at the helm.
Based on the way we know transwarp conduits work, those torpedoes should have actually entered the conduit as well. That's exactly how the Enterprise was able to get into the conduit in pursuit of the this ship just a little while later in the episode, just followed them in. So those torpedoes should have already done that originally.
Interesting, I'm not well versed on the inner mechanics of photon torpedoes but perhaps the gravimetric shear generated from the transwarp conduit interfered with the torpedoes' ability to block any stray neutrino emissions which would in turn could possibly prevent them from entering the conduit? Just a thought?
@@TheVTrider- Torpedoes Are GNDN!
I LoL'd when I saw that Borg drone dodge that phaser fire, then fire back.
I don't remember ever seeing any Borg move that fast, or with that level of agility.
Descent they did
In this episode they were a unimatrix that split off from the Coliective thanks to the virus from Hugh, and ended up with Lore as their leader. They were, in Riker's words, "fast... aggressive.. almost vicious... more like fighting Klingons than Borg."
I also like how the security guard fired only once, and then just stood there while the Borg shot him.
2:23 When you're that one extra on the bridge and you can't sync your shaking movements as well as the rest of the cast, but you're trying REALLY hard!
0:29 Nice to hear Chattaway's workup of the Borg theme he would later use in "Scorpion".
oh nice
Love the sound of the phasers being remarkably like torpedoes... 🙂
Smart move to show the Borg gang's ship firing an energy beam that's Borg-green but looks like traditional Star Trek munitions. While they'd get less specific with Borg weapons later on, the early Borg used tractor beams and cutting beams in tandem to dissect their targets clinically. These Borg's weapons match their emotional aggression.
That guy coming out of the bridge toilet at 3:15 is like "what did I miss?"
Hey... That was "Dukat" from DS9 at tactical when video showed Crusher in command. Guy gets around on his many Star Trek roles.
It's not, that's James Horan, who later played a similar role in Seaquest. But by coincidence he also had a big role in Beverly's season 6 episode that introduced the whole Metaphasic shielding in the first place.
3:53 I'm surprised Jo'Bril up at the tactical station didn't sabotage the ship to let the borg win, the way how Beverly thwarted him the last time they were on a shuttlecraft together, scarily close to a star. :(
They were hard to defeat in this episode. The D was no match for the Borg ship and had to hide in the sun and generate solar flares and commit subterfuge to defeat them like in "Best of Both Worlds"
Later at a unsuspecting planet several lights years away two Fedaration torpedoes finally make contact with a target and several thousand die..
That looks like the mega weapon the Borg planned to use in Voyager Scorpion episode.
"Disarm and recall those torpedoes."
Don't tell me they couldn't tech that.
Wonderful graphic design on the computer screens by Michael Okuda. True wiz.
I think that´s an assimilated, to borg standards converted Alien Ship. visible engines and windows give it away.
The backstory could be awesome, it could be thousands of years old, since borg tech can just heal itself.
The last visible glimpse of a once besieged and overwhelmed high tech civilisation.
Then again, most borg ships could be thousands of years old.
I used to wonder that too. But I think it may be actual Borg technology. Reason: if you watch Voyager episode Scorpion Part 2, when Seven of Nine is working on converting a Borgweapon on her controls with Janeway and Tuvok she displays a “weapon” on her specs screen and it looks just like this vessel. Very brief but you’ll notice if you are looking.
@@classicgunstoday1972 I always attributed that to the usual Trek method of reusing props and symbols.
Evasive maneuvers in Star Trek typically mean very slight turn in either direction.
The depiction of captain and XO both barking orders under fire is fantasy and a recipe for disaster. There must only be one person responsible for the safety of the ship.
It’s always bugged me that Riker gives orders when Piccard is right there.
In Descent, Part II, I thought I recognized the Star Trek actor in the role of Lieutenant Barnaby as James Horan from the early 1980s and he played as Grayson in the Highlander TV series from 1993. He does a lot of Star Trek work and I notice he does a ton of voice acting in a slew of video games.
You have a sharp eye and ear, Ft.Urla. ✔️
They react pretty casual about a death in the crew
Commander Crusher is skilled in sick bay and the command chair. All ship officers and NCOs are expected to take command if they are the senior most officer still functional.
Not sure about that. Theres a later Episode where she discusses her choice to take and pass the Command course. I find her a bit vacant during these scenes, honestly. She doesn't strike me as a leader at all, or a particularly good actor.
Real militaries don't act like that. There are LINE officers and there are STAFF officers -- she's staff. These functional specialists (Medical; Transporter Operations; most Science specialties; Diplomacy Support; Food Service, etc.) have non-combat roles and are NOT in the chain of command. Even if they outrank everyone else, in most militaries the most senior available LINE officer -- even of lower rank -- would take command for as long as the threat remained.
@@roberthaworth8991 I was told that military people are soldiers first and their trade second. Even cooks, office admin, medical, logistics, PR, mechanics, and the high ranking command officers are expected to fight in the front when the situation is really bad, like headquarters is being invaded by the enemy.
@@exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 Yes, of course -- one saying is, "Every [US] Marine a rifleman" -- and there are times when staff officers did pick up guns and do well (one US Army DENTIST killed some 90 Japanese with a machinegun when, in island fighting, the US line collapsed and his clinic was overrun). But command authority doesn't *automatically* devolve on the highest-ranking soldier present. In WWII, for ex., Tech Sergeants would command squads and platoons only as a last resort; usually a more junior combat-qualified NCO would take over before that could happen. An E-6 techie was expected to defer command to a combat-rated E-5 -- b/c the TS was considered to be part of the SUPPORT troops, and the E-5 was the one being SUPPORTED. At the other end of the rank scale, a colonel (O-6) on a division Planning Staff would not lead troops, while an O-6 commanding one of the division's component regiments did. The Luftwaffe routinely assigned the most appropriately-skilled pilot to lead its missions, such that O-3 and O-4 pilots sometimes found themselves taking orders in the air from more-experienced NCOs; this was standard operating procedure in that arm.
@@roberthaworth8991 I saw a video on that badass US Army dentist. He was fairly high ranked too, a colonel?He took over a machine gun and cut down several waves of attacking Japanese soldiers in the Pacific. Dead Japanese soldiers were piled up all around him like a circular wall of corpses. The video reported that even the Japanese were psychologically fearful of him being like some form of devil or something.
2:19 "We've entered the opening credits of Doctor Who."
Pretty sure this element was originally shot for S02E13
Nice to see Beverly in the big chair
Does anyone notice that when the Enterprise D went into the energy distortion, that the inertial dampners AND navigation failed? Sound familiar? It was when Voyager entered slipstream and their dampners and navigation also failed. No spoilers, but it did have a terrible effect on Voyager. Enterprise D being a larger ship might have had less damage due to its greater mass. Also, they did not remain as long within the slipstream.
So basically a ship entering slipstream requires a massive amount of computing power to operate the ship systems to compensate for any effects within the slipstream itself. With the Borg, they are all (drones and ship) connected to the main computer or in a Borg ship, the Vinculum. So their computing power is strong enough to allow their ships to easily enter and exit this space on the fly. Star Wars seems to use AI for its slipstream operations as well. So the deciding factor in slipstream is a powerful and fast enough computer to "hold it all together" during a flight through it. So it seem either an extremely powerful computer, or an AI is needed for this level of transit.
They killed Franklin again this week... Poor Franklin
They called him , Ben....... just Joshin',,,,........
TORPEDOES FIRE!!!! Dammit Beverley!!!!
Well, venison sure took his sweet a.. time.
"Franklins' dead sir. What's for lunch?"
I just noticed that fire torpedo button is enormous. Must be so they can still hit it while they are being tossed around from combat, or the actor thought go for the biggest button.
Well, it is a very important button at a time like that.
Picard showed about as much concern for Franklin as he did for Ensign Lynch.
"Shields down to 73%" -- Why is she reporting shield status at such weird intervals? In fact, why not just have an on-screen display of the status?
She was reporting after the ship received fire
Because the show has an audience who would like to be informed
To build tension in the audience
I love how they say "alien ship" when its all alien ships lol
That one dude to the left is looking mighty froggy holding his hand on his phaser like that
“Why is the tactical officer reading out the status of the warp engines and not the conn?”
“We already have two speaking bridge extras on this one and you want a third?”
3:56 No way the shields went up fast enough. Beverly just lost the Enterprise right there.
Good stuff ! 🖖😎
Alien vessel? It's a BORG ship. It's even on the pinball game!
'Franklin's dead sir.' 'Oh no! Anyway..'
"Evasive maneuvers!" ...sits in the same spot.
"Evasive maneuvers Ensign!"
15 seconds later the Enterprise is still in the exact same spot and hasn't moved an inch. 🤣
Franklin knew he was going to die….Watch him fiddling nervously with his side arm…
Hey its that Big ass ship from Star trek online...
Riker is pretty cool telling people one of the bridge crew is dead
Always cracks me up to see a ship’s doctor taking the helm of a starship. Like they don’t have any other officers.
To be fair she was a Commander
@@davidostrowski679and the only senior officer left on board.
So they didn't have to pay another guest cast member to show up and do the job of someone already being paid regardless.
3:44.
David Aceveda from The Shield.
What episode is this? I want to rewatch it!
“Descent”
Think I see Tracy Coco in the background on the bridge behind Worf during the Borg Phaser fight
Ryker: "Franklin's dead sir."
Picard: "Who?"
3:14 "Hey you, Blueshirt, c'mere and get this corpse off the bridge."
@3:14 "Franklins dead sir....." - Oh man that was cold! Franklin was probably dating one of Riker's ex girlfriends I bet.
Giant troll in space lol
Omg this episode I never seen ❤it 👌🏽
thats it i am gonna rewatch all seasons again
Moment of silence for Franklin
3:55 4:11 Beverly doing some great ventriloquism as captain I see.
0:27.....that's quite an exaggeration on a simple button push. Put all his effort into that one haha
I would hope that button to lauch the photon torpedos takes a very deliberate push. You wouldn't want to launch what are essentially 65 megaton thermonuclear weapons that are 'only' a bit over 25% more powerful than the largest nuke ever tested to this date... If I designed that button you would really have to mash it, which might explain why worf is often times the one pressing it!
It's also funny how in other episodes they needed to specify the torpedo yield and spread, and even where on the enemy's ship they should be targeted. Yet here, it was just "fire torpedoes" LOL
I have often overlooked part 2 but I think the battle scene between them and the Borg ship and them trying to flee it as they try to ambush the Borg in that galaxy's sun is more intense than part 1. For the most part in part 1 they were toying with the Enterprise to lure Data with Lore. And there wasn't any real attack except the opening scene between the Federation officers and the Borg drones. That and the Cardassian episodes of that season. Two advanced foes the Federation were not prepared for. Oh what awaited the Federation beyond the Cardassians and the Borg - the Breen, Jem'Hadar and the Dominion
you thought the enterprise was the biggest star trek ship you thought wrong🤣🤣🤣
@@raven4k998 Never said they were. LMAO
The Defiant and the Intrepid are easily more powerful.
Yes the great Galaxy Class has weapons (but even they got out of date). Voyager may have been week in weapons. But they had stronger defenses and speed and propulsion. They were post-Enterprise D. So they had to be built to at least flee the Borg successfully. Plus Voyager has superior shielding. Jellico had it right. Janeway was a great captain. As powerful and excellent as the Galaxy Class, they were not invulnerable to more advanced enemies like Cardassians, Borg, Jem'Hadar. And Jellico knew this
@@raven4k998 The E was probably bigger than the D.
@@robjackson5245 Since when cardassians were more advanced? they were a minor race that was less advanced in all series. Even Ferengi had more advanced ships. Also Defiant wasnt more powerfull then Galaxy, it was roughly on pair with Lakota (an refited Excelsior class). Intrepid was also inferior in firepower and tankyness when you look at the same time dates. If you compare a ship from 20-30 years ago like TNG then they were more or less probably on pair, as even if you look what TNG Galaxy's phasers did to a borg Cube (Defiant ones dont get near that still).
@T0ffik1 Absolutely are you stupid shitstain. Watch the freaking episode unless you have a learning disability. Jackass
Crusher just seems like she's repeating stuff she's heard other people say on the bridge.
Evasive maneuvers ensign!! *next space shot * enterprise still in the same place lol
The enemy is powering up their weapons!
Crusher: ...
They're going to fire!
Crusher: Oh yeah, maybe we should raise shields!
She was trying to give the Transporter Chief time to beam up the away teams
She also says "Helm, get us out of here" and "fire phasers" which are some of the most unscientific commands I've ever heard. Get us out of here where, exactly? At what speed? Fire phasers where? What strength?
@@80s_Boombox_Collector You don't have to micromanage every command, helm already had a course plotted as they were only holding position to transport people back up (also the reason the shields were down) and tactical knows what to shoot at and how hard without captain holding their hand, this is shown pretty well in a voyager episode nightingale where harry kim is doing everything on the bridge by himself instead of just giving orders to bridge crew despite being the captain at the time
@@delluminatis So then why even have any crew if one person can do it all
Picard 2023 - phasers on full Wokeness!
Hey, its Acaveda!!
3:55 As we know from ST:2 it takes longer than 1/2 millisecond for the shields to establish. Beverley was too slow.
Salazar is Capt. Acevada from The Shield
The poor yellowshirt has Stormtrooper aiming.
Instead of two drones they could have beamed a bomb onto the bridge - but nooooo...
Crusher says fire phasers and they launch a torpedo.
What a killer scene!
Had to laugh "franklins dead" nobody seemed to give a dam!
Somebody needs to edit and recompose the ship scenes so that the large ship is replaced by Mega-Maid, the transformed version of Spaceball 1.
Exxelent. 1 mit Sternchen
Look at the guy who showed up after the dude who died. Crusher cloning people
I have watched the entire series three times and never even for a second remember anything in this video, which episode is this???
"Descent" Parts 1 & 2. The last episode of the 6th season and the first episode of the 7th season
Finally someone answered. I don't remember this episode either.
The lady next to Data has nice nacelles!!!
Serious plot hole in this episode. Why wasn’t Franklin wearing a red shirt?
TNG era the Division colors were different from the TOS era.
You're unfamiliar with the show, aren't you?
Security wear yellow , worf is security chief this point...
What first commenter said.
Basically, he _is_ a red shirt before the uniforms changed.
@@IPSStacks Tactical wear gold. Worf, Geordi and Data's staff all wear gold
Oh yea, this is old! It's when Paramount still let the Federation have shields!
Ah, they left out the best part where the Enterprise swats the Borg ship with a stellar eruption.
I wonder why, in the second scene with the Borg ship, the Enterprise got caught in "some kind of energy matrix" that pulled it inside, when the photon torpedoes fired in the previous scene did not get pulled in. And when starships turn, why do they bank against an atmosphere, and why does sound travel, in the vacuum of space?
The torpedoes dodged the plot hole
@@thefakewitchdoctor, Good answer!
From which episode is that first scene?
I believe the guy on the weapons there with Crusher in Command is the same actor that tried to steal the Metaphasic Shielding that they soon used after this. xD
the sub space distortion before they :disappeared" was caused by the staff of ra
Worf was a little slow on the draw there.