ID Software "Doom 2016 is a reboot"
Literally takes place after D64..
Even though the majority of the DooM fan base don't acknowledge this game, this is technically DooM 3 years before the actual DooM 3 game arrived.
Irene Parkin its more like a proper Doom 2, the actual Doom 2 being more of an expansion. Too bad there weren't many more games like this (2.5d) in the n64.
yeah everybody sees this game as "the true Doom 3" but I see it as Doom 2, because tbh Hell on Earth looked like an expansion.
It was one of the scariest games that I played when I was a kid for sure the music and demon roars or zombies moan in the background
yeah if only it didnt control like shit...n64 controller sucked for this...but i guess people made it work then haha
I hope they bring this demon to DOOM ETERNAL.
KorraKnightmare LT yea I hope the atmosphere will be like that of doom 64 and 2016... they were phenomenal, and so cant wait for Eternal.
KorraKnightmare LT I believe they will bring her in the new DOOM III remake, and it may be the real reason of the demon army, and the unmake will be in as well
Doom 64 is a weird yet great part of the Doom universe. The mother demon seems to be a similar descendant of the Icon of Sin that is treated as a powerful summoner type monster. The unmaker was like if hell had created weapons to use against the UAC. The 2016 infants in the tubes seem to hint that either the Mother Demon is in this universe and will appear in a future game (perhaps Doom Eternal) or that its a little easter egg to a old game like with the Soul Cube on the desk. I hope ID isnt putting these there for nostalgia. I hope that they place these things around to shiw that all the different games before all connect somehow to Doom 2016's lore. The unmaker would be great to see in Doom eternal as well.
So, in Doom 64, the Doomguy stayed in Hell to make sure no demons rise up and take over... in Doom 2016, the demons made a temple/building collapse onto the Doom marine (now feared as the "Doom Slayer") and entombed him, so he couldn't get out, so they COULD finally rise again... Is this canon and a continuous storyline? Seems like it to me! :D
LordMaledict actually, it's a clever branching of story that leaves it up to player interpretation. In short, Doom2016 can be seen as a reboot, or a continuation, something that ID software did intentionally to appease the two sides of the fan base. In short, it's a yes and no area.
LordMaledict DOOM Eternal seems to take place on a invaded earth by Demons
LordMaledict , if you had paid attention to Doom 3s story line (which most don't and I can't blame them), the events of doom 1 & 2 were covered up by government. While earth was invaded, not all of earth was over ran. This is what actually contributed to that Sgt Kelly dude betraying humanity in favor of Kruger's grab at power.
Regardless, doom 16 is so cleverly branched, it could have taken place after d1e1, d2e3, n64 doom, or even after d3 dlcs, which was intentional, or it could even be looked at as a reboot. Id software did it because fans of doom are super divided about wether or not they consider doom 3 and doom 64 as cannon.
i spoke with syncerror and the id devs at quake discord
and the Doomslayer is the same Doomguy that we know, and yeah quake champions confirms that, he ended at argent Ndur during his journey in hell after doom64, got betrayed by one of the knights who had his son turned into the new icon of sin, and went on his vendetta to wreck hell once and for all until they trapped him into that tomb
Enclave Reclusiarch, yup as far as I know the knights are the only ones from Argent D'Nur, Doomguy or Doom Slayer just teamed up with them in order to help them free their world from hell. The way I see it, Doom 2016 happens way after D1, D2, Final Doom, Doom 64 and Doom 3, actually in Olivia Pierce's office you can see the Soul Cube and in hell the Icon of Sin appears lifeless.
The ending of Doom 64 perhaps explain why the Doom Slayer exists? Does this mean that DOOM 2016 is the sequel of Doom 64?
Actually, Doom 64 would be the last we'll be seeing the original Doom Guy. Doom Slayer is another person entirely, as he's an alien warrior that predated the Original Doom.
Some Yakuza Dad With a Beard He looks human. But the testaments say he is a alien. I am confused.
@@barn7121 alien technically means something or someone who is foreign. Like how immigrants can be called Illegal aliens. DooM Slayer is referred to as a Marine in the first few PDAs in the beginning, and he is built almost identical to humans.
Colin Tentis Yeah, that makes more sense, sort of like a guardian angel, built in gods image, therefore human-like.
We really need to push idSoftware to bring back the Unmaker for Doom Eternal.
Something close to the unmaker is the ballista but it doesnt shoot lazers and it doesn't look too demonic but why would the UAC make a crossbow
SectionEight hi, I’m from the future compared to when you wrote this comment. It is currently February 20th, 2020. They did add it. :)
This is my favorite Doom. The scariest of the lot.
By far my favorite boss creature in the Doom franchise, a welcome change after fighting a wall texture for three games straight. I wish it got more attention, as even the Doom mods that include Doom 64 assets don't feature the Motherdemon.
There is actually a near perfect PC port of Doom 64 for the PC called Doom 64 EX, and actually requires a ROM dump of the original game. Essentially, this is what an official port of the game to PC would have looked like, complete with modern resolutions.
Also, there is a more modernized version called Brutal Doom 64 which features enhanced graphics and maps. It also restores some of the cut content, like the Revenant and original version of the unmaker (while still retaining the one from the final version).
I meant that the Motherdemon doesn't really get used by modders outside of Doom 64 ports. I've played both the Doom Absolution total conversion for the Doomsday Engine, and Brutal Doom 64 for GZDoom.
Another DOOM creature explored, Thank You!
I think the Mother Demon will almost certainly be the final boss in the next Doom game and here's why.
The Doom games have a pattern of including a male boss that serves as the "muscle" and a female boss that serves as the "brain." In classic Doom and Doom 2016, those were the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind, respectively. (And yes, according to official Doom 2016 lore, the Spiderdemon, a.k.a. Aranea Imperatrix, is canonically female.) In Doom Eternal, these roles were fulfilled by the Icon of Sin (the mindless muscle) and the Khan Maykr (the brains behind the invasion). Hell, the Spiderdemon and Khan Maykr even had visible brains and obvious names - "Mastermind" and "Maker."
I think it then follows that the third entry in the new Doom series will include the Mother Demon. Doom 2016 was a loose remake of Doom 1, Doom Eternal a loose remake of Doom 2, and Doom 64 is generally considered to be the true Doom 3. It makes perfect sense that the trilogy will end with the Mother of all demons, the absolute apex of Hell, serving as the Slayer's ultimate foe. No doubt she'll have some tough high-ranking muscle demon to protect her, of course.
The mother demon always reminded me of the giant demon at the end of the movie "The Gate"
"Stick to what you know." Can somebody please relay that to EA.
I never want this series to end 👌👌👌👌👌
I like hearing you and others go so in-depth about DOOM lore. I really like to think the Doom Slayer is the same marine from I, II, and 64. I consider the DOOM 3 marine's battle to be set in a separate dimension. I believe the Slayer's ability to traverse worlds and time was added to him as a way to connect DOOM 3's seemingly unrelated plot; since 3 was set as if DOOM I & II never happened.
4:25 What is that monster in the left corner? Looks like a dragon.
Some Doom 64 pc ports bring a "nightmare" version for the Cacodemon and the Spectre and Brutal Doom 64 brings the Hell Hound to the game. I find very interesting that female Archvile version and that dual cannon Cyberdemon, it is a really shame how a lot of monsters from the original Doom 2 were cut because the N64 storage capacity, just imagine the HUGE variety of demons to fight if Doom 64 wouldn't have had the limit problem.
Now i wish khan makyr resurrect the mother demon and icon of sin could live again somehow
I love Doom 64. It's definitely one of the most underrated Doom games In the series. It's the real Doom 3 because Doom 64 Is everything Doom 3 should've been.
Your voice is so relaxing to hear, really good video!
Man, I'm excited for DooM Eternal
Hellz yes! Thanks for the upload!
Thank you for making this video that i asked you, hope you have an amazing day!
Another great video dude
I just thought of something.
So if you've ever played DOOM Eternal, you probably know about the Khan Maykr and how her home world is Urdak and that the Khan Maykr is in fact a female. There is one part near the end of the level in Urdak where you have to swim around a giant floating alien-like body in the water. This "body" highly resembles the Mother Demon. Maybe that's why the Unmaykr (Unmaker) is in DOOM Eternal as well.
another great video ! love the alien and predator lore as well as doom and other series you cover. keep up the great work Carlos !!
Thank you for sharing this content brother
Acid Glow. That turok player I watched years ago about 8 years ago now and still is making awesome videos
Thank you so much for these videos!!!
From what you said about is quite interesting, I had a big feeling that for Doom Eternal and they're going to have all that ideas for the past for newer demons they would add-on
The physical appearance of the mother demon is unique
Theory time: the Mother Demon was a member of the Archdemon species hinted at in Doom Eternal. She may have been a juvenile at the time but her powers far surpassed the usual riff raff that Hell had thrown at the Doom Guy and Earth itself
Yes another lore explained !
I bet you the next Doom game will be called “Doom Absolution”.
I remember watching u when u were the first to get all gold skulls on castle and u had like 100 subs
I did not know this hidden lore literary
Subscribed. I just recently got into doom and fucking love the lore. Keep it up bro
Thanks for all the work. If i may suggest; It would be nice if you add small footage of some of the information when mentioned, for example the sound of the mother demon, the super shotgun reload etc..
Keep up the good work
Wouldn’t it be awesome if Nintendo released doom 64 on the switch eshop
good stuff
I wanna see this demon in Doom Eternal as middle boss. Nice vid!
Doom have some interesting demons I liked about your videos dude I hope you can make more
From the front view, the mother demon looks like a horrifying cursed image of a dog for some reason
It doesn't look that bad from the other sides though
I'd love to find a making of DOOM 64 video. since Brutal DOOM 64, I've had a fascination for the game
She obviously shares alot of similarities with Kahn Maykr. Even the Unmaker share the parallels too. "Demonic" Unmaker with Mother Demon and The Unmaykr with Kahn Maykr.
Awesome I've been looking for some type of development information for doom64 forever pretty awesome info here
AcidGlow Do you think there’s any correlation between The Mother Demon and the Archvile? They both have a skeletal look and both use fire that flings you in the air.
Love the video, would love to see the mother demon,unmaker, nightmare imps,other canceled demons....appear in doom Eternal....one can only dream
well, it's a very good reason Brutal Doom 64 exists
I've played all the doom games and in my own opinion, Doom 64 is the best DOOM so far. Great vid by the way
Freakin sweet video man! I always wanted to know the orgin behind her. Sadly, if you complete all the secret levels in DOOM64, grabbing all the artifacts or keys needed for the Unmakergun it shuts down the gates for her reinforcements, and you can melt her with that gun in like 30 seconds, underwhelming boss fight
Of course in order to do that you need to find the unmaker and all three keys
The mother demon looks similar to the Cherub in doom 3
Any prediction for Doom Internal? Like why doom guys armor is different? His helmet look more like the Original and his armor has changed too.
Maybe his old armor was destroyed?
He probably goes back to Hell to get his original armor since Hayden has that tether thing in the DooM Slayer armor
The 2 and 3 upgraded versions of the unmaker are just a LITTLE OP.
In doom I noticed there are 3 what I would call species. the first os what I'd call a demonic alien entity. the Pink demon being the smallest and least deadly then going onto the Imp, Hell Knight, Baron of Hell, Cyberdemon, and at the Apex of this species the Icon of Sin. (This theory was based on the similar attacks and body types of these enemies.) Then you have the brains from smallest to largest, Arachnotron, Spider mastermind. The 3rd species I don't really have a name for but I believe that the Mother Demon and the Archvile are related due to their healing abilities and their fire based attacks.
Do the archviel explain next
will you ever do the judas breed from the movie mimic ?
Never heard of the motor demon lavender show in Doom eternal sounds and doom 2016 they show some new demons
If anything I belive that you can set the mother of all demons in DOOM 2016 in one of the multiplayer maps. Big maggot looking thing with demon horns frozen with an alter in front of it.
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When your done with the doom stuff I recommend the aliens from xcom
I hope you get to see her return in a future game
Yo Acid, when you first played Doom 64, did it feel different from the past Doom entries??
I found it to be a lot more creepier and scarier then the metal fueled early Doom Titles.
I did miss the music, but that quiet, creepy ambience of melodies and sounds made Doom 64 wha it is, a terrifying chapter in the Doom franchise, you really did feel like you were surrounded by demons at every tell and really really felt like you were in Hell.
Breakdown is one level in Doom 64 that creeps a lot of people out that ever played Doom 64, I thought it was pretty creepy, but Alter of Pain and Dark Cidel had me on edge and paranoid.
When it comes to favorite Doom games, the original is my number one and Doom 64 is my number 2, and Doom 2016 is my 3rd.
Doom 2 just never did it for me, it’s very fun, but it could get tidious and repetitive really fast. (That’s my opinion though.)
I wonder if the Demon Keys would look similar to what Doom Slayer used to activate the Crucible if they were in Eternal.
Maybe a sequel to doom eternal will make the mother demon return just like how the icon of sin returned in doom eternal
This I haven't even knew about.
Hope to see it in the next DOOM
DAMN DOOM 64 MULTIPLAYER OR EVEN COOP WOULDVE BEEN SO COOL!!!!
Finnaly im early
The weird thing you find doom 2016 in snap map it’s called demon fetus
you pronounce nihilanth wrong but otherwise great vid as always
I have this game. I love it
The Reaper uses a Lost Soul as a power source? Hmm.. how can I, personally, harness Lost Souls as power sources? I'm sure nothing could possibly go wrong by doing so..
Mother Demon just seems like a proto khan myker or is a myker
I think in the next dlc or doom game well see the mother demon
Maybe some archviles did a fusion
Scp interesting creatures I hope you take look at them
so doom 64 is connected to 2016 doom
LordMaledict I am asking you to give me facts. If I am wrong then I shall admit it.
LordMaledict I do not see the source of your statements. Do you have the official document?
LordMaledict I do not know if you are familiar with the name Peter Molyneux. It does not matter what people say in the E3, what matters is the official document in which the story is.
She needs to comeback for the new doom games
But do make one in future
A year late comment but i hope they release a director's cut of doom 64 with all the cut content with extra levels.
Idk if u did it or not but u should do a video bout the hell hunters in doom 3 resurrection of evil
Already covered them in 2 videos. There's not enough Lore or History about them to make a long video about them.
AcidGlow alright I'll go check them out, thanks for replying. Nice video btw
Thank God for Brutal Doom 64
Dude, thank you for this video! All the questions I had for Doom 64 were solved here :)
EDIT: waitwaitwait a second. I am now reading comments of people saying the OG Doom games (including this one!) is connected to Doom 2016. Just speculation or there are hints for this?
It can be interpreted as either resuming from any of the games or as a reboot. id has left it up to the player's imagination.
never played doom64, i really need to fix this
Gosh. I thought the final doom was it but as of now got one more battle. However...Iade the mother demon and the cyber demon fight each other. Amazing the Cyber Demon won.
The re-release of DOOM 64 has a prequel level to DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal that has you fight the mother demon again
Can u do the stronger predator fan movies plz
I don't consider "fan stuff" part of the official stories. If it's not licensed then anyone can make up a random story.
Marauder demon confirmed
So wait
If classic doom and new doom are connected, then...
Who was in charge of hell after mother demon died? (2016 spider mastermind doesn't count, cuz it was Olivia Pierce who turned into it and then quickly died)
Where were maykrs when that happened?
pity they were not able to implement everything they had in mind and even the sequel. This game is a masterpiece that deserves the best consideration.
yes the mother demon xdxdxddddd
Since this is the demon who revived the rest of the demons and has a fire attack that lifts you up in the air, this demon has to be related to the arch vile somehow
Looks like the demon from The Gate
I want her to be the final boss in DooM ETERNAL.
Edit: Thank you for the like
looks like the monster from a 1987 movie called The Gate
*Some Lore and History about the Mother Demon and the Unmaker. Hope you enjoyed the video. ✅🙂*
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AcidGlow, oooh! Can you start doing weapons now?
Steven Baker the answer to that question is here. czcams.com/video/PR538034kak/video.html
Do the lore of clive barker's undying lore and creatures please
I believe he said in a video where he states that AcidGlow is an amalgamation of both Alien's and Predator's blood, whereas aliens have Acid blood and predator's blood Glow; Hence AcidGlow. Great Moniker if you ask me