Full Tour Of The 2023 Thor Scope 18M B-Class RV
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- In This video we tour the brand new 2023 Thor Scope / Rize 18M.
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Hello everyone, welcome to my channel. Like so many others, my lifestyle changed due to the pandemic.
Before the pandemic, my families lives had become so hectic & busy that there never seemed to be a good time to travel anymore. Somewhere along the line we realized that our last vacation was in 2011. We decided that it was time we made some travel plans.
Then the pandemic hit! I no longer wanted to travel by plane or stay in a hotel. We decided that a bettter and safer alternative would be to travel in our own vehicle, one that we could also sleep in, cook our own meals in, vacation in. The rest is history!
However, the RV shopping process is not easy and required a lot of research. I want to share what I have learned along with my ongoing experiences and adventures through my channel which offers:
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This van is perfect for me..a single traveler with 2 small dogs..snd I’m only 5’0 so I’ll fit fine!
Hello Lori, I agree that this van would be great for a solo traveler especially if you did not have to assemble / disassemble the bed.. Thanks for watching!
This is one of my favorite smaller class-B RVs. It’s nicely appointed, for the prices. Solar is a definite plus. RB is again, always a favorite. I do like that the toilet is cassette, so no worries for a dump station. I’ve considered this as a starter, to see if I really will like a class-B as much as I think. Could always trade up to a tranquility or serenity. Ruby, I love how you take your time, going through the options. Your videos are paced so well, it makes it a pleasure to watch. My favorite reviewer is you. Have a great week, looking forward to the next amazing review.
Thank you Merlin for the compliments and warm words. This would be a great starter RV. Thank you so much for watching my videos!
Nice design and layout. That bed would work for a single person, even without sliding it out. One could just move the backrests and lay down comfortably.
Hello, the layout of this RV makes it very roomy for such a compact sized van. Many solo travelers do like that they can just remove the backrests on the sofa and not have to make the whole bed.
Thank you so much for watching!
I really love this floor plan.
Great job showing this unit, Ruby.
Hello Bryan, I agree that this floor plan has a great layout however Thor really needs to improve the bed system. Thanks for Watching!
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Ruby, do you have a idea to make it better? And if so what would it be?
I would like to see a couch where you grab the back rest and pull it over and down in front. I had a couch like in my travel trailer.
IMO a fold out couch/bed would have been a better design.
Great tour. Thanks for sharing. Love this layout and size.
Hello Thais, I agree this is a great layout and the interior feels spacious considering its overall size but Thor could have made the bed a little easier to use. Thanks for Watching!
Ruby you Rock !! Another fantastic review, I really like how you explain each feature and demonstrate. You have a nice calm approach explaining in the reviews ( unlike some other reviewers who are loud and shout ) LOL You do a great job. I think it would be a great idea to get a close up of the spec sheet with the price on each unit. Have a great weekend !
Hello Richard, Thank you for the feedback. Not all dealerships supply the specs sheets, but when they do, I try to get a pic into the video. Thank you so much for watching my videos!
@@Adventure-Mom Thanks Ruby
Where is your home base and where are most of the reviews done from ?
I travel between dealership in SouthWest FL area.
More windows that open would be nice. I believe there’s an aftermarket screened vent that rests between a partially-opened window and the door frame on the driver and passenger front doors for extra ventilation. Nice overview. Thanks for posting.
Hello Rick, Thanks for the Compliment. I agree as I was surprised that there were not more opening windows. Thanks for Watching!
Best tour I have seen of this model. Thank you
Hello Nancy, I am so glad you enjoyed the video tour. Thank you so much for watching!
Bought one last July 2022. Had it for 9 months, been in shop for 3 months. Leaks, upholstery issues, window issues, screen issues, generator issues, poor craftsmanship.
On the bright side, the Ram platform is great
Nice job!
Hello Roger, thanks for watching! ☺️
Thank you so much for this video! Well done and well explained. PS. I love your silver bracelet!
Hello Linda, Thank you for the compliments! This layout is a nice layout, I just wish the bed was easier to use. Thanks for Watching!
Love from Ontario, Canada! Red alert - that bike rack, that floor rise to the cockpit and the low roof!
I agree that you need to be careful in this RV and I have seen others hit their head on the bike rack. Thanks for Watching!
I wouldn’t want the bike rack either. Should only be on the ones who want it if they have a bike or bikes, I think.
Very good job 👍
Thanks for the compliment and Thanks for Watching!
Wow ✨️ love my 2016 Roadtrek Zion Class B RV--but I wish I could trade it in for this one... Hopefully, i can pay mine off soon!
Thanks for sharing. This is nice compact/short class B layout. Good size wet-bath, good size kitchen. But the bed OMG.... you're playing tetris with the bed. Total of 6 pillows need to be adjusted (and removing 2 wedge shaped pillows & 1 cup holders pillow) to make the bed. Thor should redesign this. It seems like the European RV makers design a better layout (Hymer Free 540, AutoTrail V-LINE 540 SE, CARADO CV 540) which based on 540cm Fiat Ducato chassis (which is almost identical with Ram Promaster 1500). Nice presentation, Ruby👍
Hello Miko, I do like this layout but I agree that the bed design needs to be changed. Thanks for Watching!
Glad to see not much has changed from the 2022. Picked mine up yesterday (2022 build on 2022 ProMaster) & saw my dealer has 2023’s “arriving soon”. I was a little worried they might make some major change - like to the sofa/bed, a better side door screen, or the overall layout - but it seems they’ve just moved the Truma control & added the ability to connect additional ground-mount solar panels.
Thanks for the walkthrough!
Hello Todd, Yes it seems they kept things very close to the same. I did notice the Truma and inverter switch were moved. Thanks for watching!
I think the real changes for the 2023 on the 2022 chassis have to do with Ram chassis safely features such as lane assist, blind spot monitoring etc
I have noticed that there isn’t much difference either. Since the 2023’s are coming out did you get a decent break on the current price of the 2022?
I like that they have added the external solar panel socket. Then the van can be parked in the shade to keep it cool, and the external (folding) solar panels can be placed in the sun. The charge controller would need to be able to handle the external solar, which might be an upgrade as well. I note that the Thor site specifications do not mention this external solar plug. Is this a standard feature? Or an add-on? Is the Thor site just out of date?
Thank you Ruby great tour I think I'm interested in this it'll depend upon the price some of them I see are not consistent with the price on this the MSRP thanks again great job
Hello Cathy, Thanks for the compliment. If you are interested in a RV like this one you may want to contact Big John at 4075351104, he works at LaMesa in Fort Myers. Thanks for Watching!
I’ve never seen anyone turn the front seats I would be interested to see if that’s an easy thing to do also I think it would be nice to show the sofa being set up as a single daybed /night bed without width extension To show it’s easy to get to the bathroom at night and I think you forgot to show the awning nice video though thank you
Hello Eileen, There is a lever to push down to allow the seat to swivel so it is relatively easy and if you leave the couch as a single bed there is plenty of room to walk to the bathroom. Thanks for Watching!
You look incredible today Ruby, great video……………
Thanks for the compliment and Thanks for Watching!
Nice
Hello Wayne, I’m glad you liked it. Thank you so much for watching!
This is perfect for a single live aboard, as in a travelling nurse. Just remove the back cushions and go to sleep! Obviously I would pay a pretty penny for some custom covers for them cushions. The price is right too, think how much a custom job like this would cost, even if this is not a perfect live aboard or the extended version of this van.
Hello, it is definitely roomy enough for one person and provides great amenities for life on the road. Thank you for watching! Happy Holidays!
Awesome review as always! I like this rv but… the bed situation is a no for me. Thanks for a great review!
Hello Daphney thanks for the compliment. I agree that Thor needs to come up with a better design for the bed. Thank you so much for watching my videos!
They need to offer the bed with a small slide out
Yessss...A small slide-out would be nice....for the bed... kinda like the tear drop Nu- camp 320s..
and A chance to exchange......
the old bed .....
to the new...bed design...
that would be GREAT!!!👍🤗
I would pay a fee ..to ..get a better night sleep ..I hope Thor is watching 👍😁
Thank you for this video!!! 😊
I really enjoyed the broken bathroom mirror !😁
LOL, I find it weird that the dealership brought that RV to a show with a broken mirror but I guess it is an easy repair. Thanks for Watching my videos!
it's not broken, it's a new 2023 style 😁
The 2022 video also has a broken mirror. This seems to be an issue so far.
That's a lot of content packed into an 18ft van. Think it trumps the Solis Pocket with features and compromises storage but Thor has a model (18T) that fills that role. The 18M sells it for me with the rear bath vs. a porta potty and no hot water in the Pocket. At a little under 6 foot tall I would need to see if I could use that couch as a single bed without my feet/ankles dangling over the end. Perhaps the driver seat swivels far enough to extend the length.
Overall this thing could be a boondocking monster for a solo camper or REALLY close couple. The generator/inverter is a game changer here in the 1500 chassis. Add a second small 12v fridge freezer for frozen goods, small convection toaster oven, small instant pot or rice cooker and you are good to go! Would probably swap out the AGM's for Battle-borns. My dumb ass would probably also have to bring a small gas grill as well. The challenge would be where to put all that stuff while travelling, once camped most of it would be outside. For dedicated camping a hitch mounted storage box would work but a pain in the ass if you are trying to be stealthy. The real limiting factor would be water.
May need to rethink that 18T floor plan and warm up to the porta-potty issue. It has the generator and much more storage for all the crap previously mentioned, but it's a tough choice losing a working bathroom.
I do carry a small instant pot with me on my travels that fits in the overhead cabinet as well as a very compact portable grill (see my description). I do like the 18M as the rear bath is a great size. They do need to re-design the bed system, but overall I do like the layout. Thanks for watching!
Great review!! This RV would be perfect if it had a reclining sofa and a spot for flip down TV. To many cushions and steps setting up the RV.
Hello Sharon. I agree that Thor needs to come up with a better design for the bed and I would have preferred a TV instead of the tablet holder. Thanks for Watching!
Hi, great review as always. Could you tell us how comfortable is the bed? Thanks.
Hello Sam, The bed was an average bed for comfort but was difficult to assemble and disassemble and takes up a lot of space. Thanks for Watching!
Thanks for this video. But what is your honest opinion about this rig. Has the quality improved some--your thoughts?
My honest opinion is that this RV has a nice layout that would make a great camper for a couple. Thor has improved their quality somewhat but unfortunately not enough to compete with most other RV manufacturers ... but then again you are paying much less for a Thor product. My opinion is that you need to be prepared to fix minor issues yourself as waiting for any dealership to repair will take a very long time. Thanks for Watching!
Thanks to you I purchased this rv Saturday. The only thing I got to say about this 2023 that you’re showing is it’s on a 2021 chassis. Two ways to tell is this has a 7” screen display and it should be a 10” and the for sure way is to look at the vin number and the tenth letter should be an N or a P. I love your walk through videos. Enjoy your day.
Hello RayRay, Congratulations on your purchase! It’s a great compact RV for camping with a spacious interior and also makes for a great day cruiser that is easy to park. I wish you safe travels and lots of enjoyment with your new RV. Thank you so much for watching my videos!
@@Adventure-Mom love your videos you definitely do in my opinion the best ones out there.
In "general", would you/anybody know the difference between the SCOPE and RISE?
Thanks for the video.
Hello Ruby! I like your channel so much! Do you now why this 2023 still use 2021 chassis ?
Hello Gang, Some manufacturers purchase the chassis in bulk and then build them out at a later date. Thanks for Watching!
I will wait for the new 2023 chassis with a nicer front face (plus other nicer stuff) 😄
I love this van. Where is this one located please? Better price then I've seen locally. Thanks for being so informative about the rv.
Hello Susan, this RV was at La Mesa in Fort Myers, Florida. You can contact Big John at 407-535-1104 for more information. He will be glad to help you. Thanks for watching! Happy Holidays!
@@Adventure-Mom, Thank you!!
Beds a dealbreaker
I agree Richard, Thor needs to rethink the bed system but I do like the overall layout. Thanks for watching!
I've gotten in other ProMaster RVs at RV shows. I have not been been lucky enough to find a Scope/Rize. Does the driver seat go back far enough to accommodate 6'3" guys? Not to say that you're not 6'3", but I've had trouble on other units so interested if you had any insight. Also the generator looks no lower than the rear axle now. Is that true?
Hello David, The drivers seat does go back far, but as I am only 5'4" I can not be sure it will work for you. The generator does seem to be in a much better location and I would not be worried about it bottoming out any more. Thanks for Watching!
I picked up my 2022 Scope 18M yesterday. I’m 6’ tall & fit comfortably. The seat had the ability to go back maybe another 2”. If you have a long torso, that overhead map pocket may be a bit close. Seems most B’s (at least budget B’s) are similar.
@@ToddK1972 Thanks for the insight
Nice van for the size and great review. Don’t care for the cassette toilet and the cumbersome bed.
Hello Roger, I agree that this RV has a nice layout and I really like the rear bath however Thor needs to redesign the bed system as it is a bit cumbersome. Thanks for Watching!
I'm a solo traveler and would use the bed without the slide out feature, if it's large enough. What are the dimensions of the bed without using the slide out and with all four backrest cushions removed? What is the battery capacity (watthours) and is it LiFePh? What is the inverter power rating (watts).
Hello Elwood, As I do not sell RV I would refer you to Big John at La Mesa RV in Fort Myers to answer more detailed questions. His Number is (407) 535-1104. Thanks for Watching!
I wish that the drivers door had to be open to access the gas tank or that it have a locking gas cap.
Hello Lucille, I agree, it would definitely be a great safety feature. Thanks for watching!
FYI. I purchased a lockable gas cap for the 2021 RAM Promaster 1500 at the parts department at a local RAM dealership.
Still looking for the solar controller in the 2023, it is in the cabinet next to the microwave in the 2022 😮
That is a good question, I'll have to look when I am bad at that dealership as I did not see it last time. Thanks for Watching!
I just picked up my Scope 18M & it’s now incorporated in the BM controller, Thors build quality is really suspect, lucky all the major components work, but lot’s of smaller issues elsewhere uncovering every day, even had a screw in my tire I luckily caught before taking the van, still luv the van though, thanks for the video !
price is $83,00.- I love this price. I want to buy it.
Hello Kenneth, This van was located at La Mesa in Fort Myers, Florida. You can contact BIG John Arroyo @ 407-535-1104 for more information.
Thank you so much for watching!
Table should have a second leaf so all those seated can use a table.
Hello Michael, That would be a great modification. Thanks for Watching!
Nice tour Ryker Mom. Is the Guillotine optional (bike rack)?🤕
LOL, Thanks for the laugh Danny. The bike racks are standard but can easily be removed and the height of the wheel holders can be adjusted higher. Thanks for watching my videos!
Has Thor improved their quality control?
Hello Michael, That is a very tough question. I am not convinced that they have improved their quality control as I still see many RVs that have minor issues during my tours. Thanks for watching!
Great van for a single person. However that bed is a workout every night. Better design is needed. JMO.
Hello, this RV has a great layout but the bed definitely requires some effort to put together. Thanks for watching!
I have a interest this camper van. where is camper van dealer?
Hello Kenneth, This van was located at La Mesa in Fort Myers, Florida. You can contact BIG John Arroyo @ 407-535-1104 for more information.
Thank you so much for watching!
Why couldn't you leave those skinny cushions in their little slots to reducebed assemly
Hello Laurie, You need to pull the bed out to create the space to put the skinny cushions in. Thanks for Watching!
Where can you get this at that $82 K price?
Hello Ronnie, Please call Big John at 407-535-1104. He works at the Fort Myers, FL La Mesa RV. Thanks for Watching!
That step looks like it will cause some pain.
Josie I did trip once or twice, that is why I felt it necessary to mention it. Thanks for Watching!
Have you seen a non pop top 18?A model
Hello Michael, yes I did a quick tour, here is the link: czcams.com/video/ukuuY63dF1M/video.html. Thanks for watching!
Link was for pop top version
Hello Ruby
Hello Isabella, Thanks for Watching!
@@Adventure-Mom
Keep up the great work
Thanks for the Compliment!
@@Adventure-Mom
Hey Ruby., is there any way that you could review the COACH HOUSE Arriva. The company is located in Clearwater, Florida
It would be helpful if you laid down on the bed to give us an idea of the length for someone 6 ft.
If not mistaken, the bed is 47” wide & 72” long. I’m 6’ tall & fit comfortably.
Hello Miles, Thank you for the feedback and Thanks for Watching!
Way too small for two people...unless they want to go crazy fast and furious!
This van is less than 18' long and I am not a fan of the cumbersome bed layout. Thanks for Watching!
Once I saw bed setup it was a pass.
Thanks for watching!
the floor plan are so simto all the rest
Yes Thor seems to reuse the more popular layouts over different platforms. Thanks for Watching!
The question is how you if need to go to the toilet?
Hello Julian, The cassette toilet is just like a regular toilet as it does use water to flush. There is a small button that you push to add some water to the bowl, after you are finished you flush the toilet with a slide handle. Once the cassette is filled, you simply dump it at a dump / waste station or in a toilet. Thanks for Watching!
I don't know anything about the cassette toilet (only watch some videos about it). Normally the cassette is accessible from the outside, right? (that small door to the cassette is outside the van). Since the cassette's door is inside the van, I'm a bit concern about the toilet smell. My understanding, the purpose people put the cassette's door outside the van is to reduce the smell. I could be wrong.
Gotta lay on your stomach to connect grill
$3 shower head........impressive
OMG.. A bottom mounted generator with wiring exposed? KILLER right away. Sorry, can't even watch the rest of the video. Major design FLAW.
Hello Garland, I agree the generator is low. Thanks for Watching!
@@Adventure-Mom I GUESS you could buy one without the generator! LOL :) Thanks for the preview though.