2021 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 vs. original Boxster: Porsche’s mid-engine roadster 25 years later
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It’s been 25 years since Porsche launched the original Boxster, so we decided to drive a 1997 model and a 2021 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 back to back to find out what they have in common, how they’re different, and, ultimately, which one belongs in your garage.
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The fact that he’s driving the 718 and still talking about the 986 says a lot
The rose tint of age 😊
I’ve owned my 01 Boxster S for what 14 years now. And it still brings a smile to my face every time I turn the key. It has 143,000 miles on it, and still feels like it’s brand new.
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Absolutely love my 987 Boxster S. It's such a fun car to drive and the styling is timeless IMO.
Him: "please don't buy the $6k one off Craigslist..."
Me: *looks at the $6k 986 Boxster in my garage, found on Craigslist..*
There are definitely deals out there. Glad you found a nice one for a great price!
Nick, that is GREAT! I say that in jest, as one can find a good one, just have to wade thru a lot of junk to get there. Congrats, amazing deal.
Good for you!
I just sold my 997.2 GT3 RS and bought a pristine 2.5 Boxster. Why ? In a world filled with other road users, police, etc., taking out the GT3 was a perpetual exercise in discipline and self control. I yearned for a simpler, less powerful, momentum car, that I can drive with abandon in the modern era. Yup, these early 986 are my driving nirvana. ❤
Enjoy sir!
Excellent insights on the Boxsters. I just bought a 2001 Boxster S and absolutely love it. Although I love the look of the 981 Boxsters, I don’t think I could ever give up the analog experience of the older car.
Sure you could. 😂
Not mentioned, they also make great race cars. I just ran one for nine hours straight at Road Atlanta two weeks ago.
The driver technology in the 986 is between your ears. I love that about the 986.
Great review. I have 01 S. Its 100 percent track car with rear wing and front aero. Performs like a GT4. But when I got it 7 months ago in stock form, I felt like it was the funnest car I ever drove. Never wanted to get out of it! Amazing car either stock or race prep like mine, though I spend 6 days working on it and 1 day tracking it. Worth every minute!
Thank you for the clear audio while driving. Too many videos today are unintelligible audibly due to careless use of available recording technology. This is very informative. I currently own a 2013 Boxter S, and have ordered a 2024 Boxter GTS-4.0. I plan to use them both! Sorry to see us lose the ICE on this fabulous car!
thanks to this video in 2021 I bought my first Porsche Boxster model 2002, cc 2700, in the same color combination: silver exterior + red interior. From the very first moment It was love at first sight and always put a smile on my face ❤❤❤
I just took possession of my 2008 Boxster RS 60 and I love it. I've been a Porsche fan since I was a kid. Having that direct connection to the steering and throttle are 2 things I just love. That Flat 6 answers my right foot every time. Loved the comparison of the original and the new.
I took possession on my RS60 a year ago September - agree in every way - never had such a driver’s car experience before (BMW,Jaguar,Alfa included) would not give it up for the world! For me the 987.1 is much better than the 986 but hey - they are all great!
Great video. I just recently purchased an 02 Base. Absolutely love the feel and sound of it.
I just picked up a 98 with 37,589 miles. Not a scratch on her.
I have owned a 986 1997, 143,600 miles for 7 years base model. I love it and you know what I do my own maintenance. I love the ability to work on my own cars, the newer cars have made that very difficult.
Great explanation on the 986 Boxster. Awesome video! I own a 2000 2.7L in Speed Yellow with GT3 rims. I get compliments from in all the time and the driving experience is amazing. You can still find them under 10K in nice shape if you look hard............. I'd love to get a 986 Boxster S.
Favorite quote: “Porsche has not lost focus on the driver.” I checked “own a 911” off my bucket list long ago. Today I play with a 2001 S and it’s quicker and more playful than the ‘79 911.
My 2002 986 3.2 S is the most satisfying car I’ve ever driven, « North of 5000 rpm », pure, light, analog sports car. A dream to drive!!! (and work on)
I loved your comment about how Porsche has stayed true to the original Boxster’s DNA with each subsequent generation. I had a 987.1 S and now have a 981 S. And while the 981 is larger and has electric rather than hydraulic steering, it still FEELS like a Boxster! Can’t say that about many other sports car makers.
Just picked up a 1998 Porsche Boxster 986 with 37.5k miles on it...
I LOVE it
One of the best and most considered reviews. Now going out to enjoy my 718 😊
Thanks, nice commentary, I have a 2000 Porsche Boxster's, love it.
I have a 2005 987 and enjoy the road performance
I absolutely adore my ‘03 2.7L 986! I was fortunate when looking for a fully sorted one six years ago, to be able to buy one that Pedro Bonilla had “saved from the crusher” by installing a fully rebuilt replacement M96 (with new oil fed IMSB). Best under $17k car ever. However, I would still love to pair it with the 4.0L GTS.
Very nice!
Found a 2001 Boxster recently with 22,500 miles. Like new. A dream to drive.
Congratulations!
Great video! I love my 2006 Boxster with 22,000 miles. People think its brand new!! I saw the Boxster prototype 2 years in a row at Detroit auto show. Took 30 mins to get close to it with the crowds surrounding it both years!!
Keep it shiny forever!👍😁☀️
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Nice video/commentary. I have a 1999 (Arctic Silver/Boxster Red since new, Oct 98) with 102k 5 spd and a 2017 Cayman S PDK (Black/red & black int). Love 'em both. When I got the Cayman, I told my wife I was selling the Boxster. She asked "Why would you do that?". Love her too. I agree that the black interior did not pop like the red, but if you opted for Nephrite Green with the Arctic Silver, that looked darned good as well.
Very informative vid...keep 'em up!!
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Thank you very much for excellent analysis of these two magnificent machines!
Glad you like them!
I have bought a black interior boxster 986, and ill admit the red interior has grown on me in this video
Black is nice but the red is so classic!
Nathan is a Rock Star! I was fortunate to have met him at the 2109 Parade of Porsches.
So you both time travel?
I think I have watched this video at least 4 times over the past year and enjoyed it every time. I am the original owner of a 2002 Boxster S - Arctic Silver/Boxster Red. Every time I think about selling it to buy a new one I think of all of the things you have said in this video about the purity of the design and driving experience. Mine even has the better 3 spoke steering and PSM to save me. LOL. Its a little more tempting these days as the selling prices have gone way way up but even so I don't think I could part with it. Thanks for all of the great videos about the brand that you create.
The original was a naturally aspirated 6cylinder may not have had double the “power” but that turbo 4cyl does not have the torque of the flat 6 which lives high revs and is very lightweight on its feet with almost perfect weight distribution and CLASSIC styling! The gears are close enough with perfect tuning from Porsche that makes any driver smile from ear to ear! Some times it’s not all about numbers or power but class, character n experience and that’s what the 986 delivers!
Fantastic video, well done sir! Like most I love the early boxsters except for the headlights.
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Nice video, always a treat to hear Nathan's thoughts and insight. Agreed that the 986 holds up quite well over the years. I would have liked to see a more fair comparison, perhaps a 1997 986 versus a base 981 or 718, and then compare the new GTS 4.0 against a 2004 550 SE Boxster.
Tom we chose the 1997 vs the new GTS because we are discussing the 25 years of the Boxster and that is the model Porsche chose to celebrate the Anniversary. You are correct, a fun video would be comparing the 2004 S550 (I own one and LOVE it!), 2008 RS60, 2012 987.2 S, 2016 981.1 GTS, 2019 718 GTS, 2021 718 GTS 4.0.
As a 986 owner I suggest the 3.2 S model. Once the IMS is sorted this is the sweet spot.
Thanks for sharing!
Great video, I was never interested in a Boxster but you may have changed my mine. Currently owner of 08' Cayman and will definitely search for a convertible.
I also own a 987 Cayman, which is a brilliant car but still have a 986 in the stable! Can't go wrong with either or both!
Try it. You'll like it. It is really fun above 4000rpm. I bought a 99 986 5spd in Oct 98 (now 102k). Then in Feb 2018 got a 2017 718 Cayman S PDK (it was a Porsche company car) and was going to sell the Boxster. Wife talked me out of it. They do complement each other so well . 😁
I have a 996 and 2.5 boxster, they are similar but very different, 996 is so fast and can be a little scary, the boxster needs more power but isnt slow, and tracks perfectly, both are amazing in their own way.
What a great video and fun contrast, two Boxsters separated by 25 years. To my eye, Porsche has certainly stayed true to the Boxster's origins. To my ear, the 986 sounded a good bit more sporty. Perhaps an artifact of being able to rev the 986 higher than you can the 718 and stay within the speed limit.
The fact is one is a flat 6 vs a flat 4 ( the718).
@@cecilnoriega7276 The 718 has a 4.0L flat 6
Thank you for a great comparison between these 2 amazing Porsches. I own a 1999 silver/red Boxster with factory hardtop, 981S Cayman, and a 718 GT4. Driving them back to back to back is a fantastic experience if you’re a fan of mid-engined Porsches. My first one was a 1976 914 2.0 I bought in 1986. Of them all, the one that had the most profound impact on Porsche, the company, is the 986.
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You are having too much fun.
i have a 986 with a 996 3.4 engine. lots of fun
Love our 19 718 Boxster. The handling is amazing with rotation aided by PVT. 350hp is plenty to have fun and stay out of jail.
great review
Glad you enjoyed it!
I had a 986S, first year production, to be honest I couldn’t stand with the fried eggs front lights. Then I bought the first year production 987S, then… you got it. The first year production 981S 😄
I gave up the first 718S due to 4 cylinders but now I’m tempted by the 718 GTS 4.0 liters. However the 981S is such an outstanding car that I can’t give it up…
Rented a 2021 boxster in Miami i loved it
Good comparison. I agree with your controversial statement about the 996/986 vs 997/987 interior. I actually preferred the full leather prior generation interior to the subsequent interior.....to me it's more classic vs the not classic or modern subsequent interior.
I love my 58K miles '99 996 Gen 1. And, I love the GT1 headlights!
Same here. Spent the day in our 996.1. Spent 8 days touring in our Boxster S 981 last week. Love them both. I always think to myself Thank you Porsche when I am driving either one. 😍
My 99 boxster good enough for me!! love it!! great video!! tks!!
We love early Boxster as well!
@@PorscheClubofAmerica always got early ones!, a 72 914, a 1984 911 carrera targa 3.2 y now the 99 boxter!! Love them all always dearlyt!!!
I have a 2000 S 6 Speed. I finally got the suspension sorted out and did a track day last weekend. The car was absolutely amazing. I'm in the process of buying a 996. I drove it yesterday and while I love the car it's just not a Boxster.
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One of the best films to watch and listen to regarding the 986 .... 'purist expression' .... such a key statement and it takes the years to roll by to earn such favour. It is a retrospectively gorgeous car and I am so happy with my 2003 'S'. Also with Porsche still developing the car after 25 solid years is a testament to how good the concept is or always was. They are probably kicking themselves that they didn't keep going from the original 550 and 718 as they did with the 356 and the 911.
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Holy mackerel on the new intro.
Interesting review as I just happen to own a 2002 Boxster S & 2023 Cayman GTS 4.0. The 986 is my daily, I just love the way it sounds, drives & get tons of compliments. It's Arctic Silver w/ black leather sport seats, flared rocker panels, xenon headlights & a handful of interior upgrades which really make it pop. With the top down it just looks amazing. And while the GTS is more modern & quicker, if I had to pick just one it would be a very tough choice, that's how good the 986 is IMHO.
Thanks for sharing!
Amazing cars.Thats funny this video came up in my feed today.Ive been looking for a first gen for the last month and I’m looking at a 2000 in the morning....hopefully this will be my first one.🤞
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@@PorscheClubofAmerica I put a deposit down on it yesterday and it will be in my driveway next weekend.So excited.Wish I could ad pics,it’s beautiful!
@@heinzr579how you liking your Porsche?
Just took delivery of the Boxster 25 and it’s awesome in every way. Kept the 718S as my daily. Buy the Boxster’s over the 911 and Caymans, with the hood down it becomes even more special.
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So I drove my 996 to the Porsche Experience LA and beat up on a GT3 and 911 Turbo. Then drove my 996 home and jumped immediately into the 986 after I got home while my memory was fresh. Obviously, the old cars cannot compete on fit & finish and outright performance. BUT! The one thing I can say for sure is that the 986 offers a bit more tactile feel than the new cars. Maybe I just need more seat time. Have to get my hands on a 718 next!
Really nice video.
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@@PorscheClubofAmerica now I feel like I need a Boxster...
With inflation, considering the 97 version cost $40,000 equal to $77,000 in 2023, the GTS is a great deal with all the upgrades and technology.
Good comparison, nice to see Norm’s car getting some attention. I have to disagree on the Boxster prototype though. When I saw it at the Porsche museum, I thought it looked much better than the production car.
the "poor mans" Porsche has come a long way.... much like the 914 of days old.. it's an important car in the Porsche line up, truly embodies the Porsche DNA, but at a price that doesn't scare off many buyers ..
the 986.1 was an analog car...
Great roads too! Do you mind me asking where this is?
Terrific, balanced review. Thank you from a 2013 BS owner. I guess I’m half way 😊.
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I agree M M, I always disliked the headlights. I’m in the market for new Cayman GTS for an everyday driver. First Gen Boxters have to be checked for rust IMO.
I have driven both those exact cars and the 718 GTS 4.0 feels a lot bigger for some reason and obviously not as raw and direct as the original 986. But I guess that’s going to be the same with all cars after 25 years.
would be great a comparison between the 981 spyder vs 718 spyder and the 981 gts vs 718 gts and if there is any character and behavior changes between generations. AS you compared the 987 spyder vs 981.Seems like the GTS there is a big difference but on the spyder there is not that much on performance.
That 986 is in brilliant condition. Is it restored or just has very low mileage on it?
Of course the steering is going to be heavier. The spyder version of the car goes 185 miles per hour. Light steering is great for toodling around on a sunday with your grandkids. But if you're actually going to drive the car, heavier steering is much appreciated. IMHO...Porsche Boxster is still my fav true sports coupe. (former 914 2.0 and 2007 boxster S owner)
The boxter engine will need realignment after some mileage?
Great review! 25 years is a lot of time and is only logical that cars get quicker year by year. But in the end is speed what makes a car great?
Remember that old 911 are some of the most desirable cars out there, and still some of them are slower than an old 986. I believe that driving experience is what this is all about and Porsche does a hell of a job for capturing that sense.
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good review! looks like you might be in the pacific northwest?.....can you share where you were driving? Am always looking for a great new road...
You are correct, we were driving in the Snoqualmie Valley between Duvall and Carnation.
@@nathanmerz thought so!!! I was just out there this past weekend...too much traffic on weekends, but great roads!....thanks for the quick reply...keep up the great work!
Yep! Early Sunday mornings I take my 2010 987.2 (best "hips" ever) down there. I call it "going to Church"!
Love my 986 it's great fun, but lite !!! no.. my miata is lite and once you have driven both back to back its quite clear what a lite car is...love them both for different reasons and so happy to own a porsche
Thanks for sharing!
which is more fun to dive in the mountains?
@@mjor6406 Miata all day
Great comparison! You have to love the simplicity, and classyness of the 986. The new one is way better performance-wise, but all that carbon fiber looking trim, and electronic bling kills it for me (as does the price tag)! That said, I sold my 2000 996, and was glad the IMS didn't let go in the 10 years or so I owned it! Would hate to go down that rabbit hole in a 986.
My 2000 boxster base model is for the track, for a daily driver I use my 1980 MGB. The boxster is so stiff and hard I feel every bump in the road. Some one suggested that I need to get a model with the active suspension control to smooth out the bumps, any experience with that? I also heard that the 2010 had its own doors as opposed to the 911 doors they had been using and also gave that generation a little more leg room and no IMS barring and they also introduced the PDK transmission in that generation. Sounds like the second generation might be, the extra sweet spot.
987 with Porsche Active Suspension Management (active dampers) will offer better ride or stiffer damping depending on which mode you're in. 986 did not have PASM, and there's only one setting with analog shocks, which Porsche tuned for a mix of sporty handling and comfortable ride, erring on the sporty side. For some the 986's stock suspension may be too stiff, for others it may not be stiff enough. 2010 model year 987 doors are nearly identical to 1997-2004 986 doors (with the exception of the aluminum ones on the Spyder/Cayman R).
@@PorscheClubofAmerica Thank for your informative reply. I guess i will have to try a unit with PASM and decide for myself.
Good to know I’m not the only one with an eclectic taste. I own a 2000 Boxster S and 69 Austin Healey sprite . Both are weekend drives.
@@seanwalsh999 I had a silver 987 on 18s and a black on 19s with Pasm. Ride is much softer with Pasm.
Is the red dash light in the 986 a Seat Belt or Convertible Top not all the way down?
The owner of the car was apologetic as the airbag light came on during the video, was diagnosed as a bad seat belt buckle. Good eye!
The design changed A LOT from concept to production. It grew more than a foot, it lost the defined air intakes, the headlight shape changed, the interior is completely different, almost every detail was changed and only the basic soap bar shape was retained, but that was inspired by the 550, not original to the concept. I believe wt dist on the 986 is 45F/55R. Steering feel was lost by the electronic assist more than anything else.
I’ll have one of each thanks 🤓
Nathan,
Which of the following do you think will hold it's value more: 2021 25 year anniversary Boxster, or 2022 Boxster GTS 40?
the 25 year Anniversary edition, fair or not people seem to prize "limited" editions (albeit some of them aren't really that limited!). The Anniversary car is a GTS 4.0 so mechanically they will be the same.
In my opinion, if you’re choosing a car (any car) based on which one MAY appreciate more in the future, then you’re buying it for the wrong reason. Buy the one that will give you the most PSYCHIC rewards - today and tomorrow.
I miss my 2002 986s manual. You could say i moved up but did i really?
According to the Ultimate History of Porsche, the name is an amalgam of Boxer and Speedster. Not Roadster. And it's 204HP, not 201.
@10:38 or... Not everyone has 20k down with $1400 a month car payments for 60 months lol. Early models are truly a poor mans porsche, but it's still a porsche.
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The allusion to the notion that had the boxster come on the scene earlier, the 911 might have been lost to the model line. The 911 became a bloated GT car while the boxster, with its mid engine is the true evocation of the marques sporting heritage.
Totally agree with your observations. Of course, there will always be some people who are enamored with owning a 911, but folks who are more interested in driving the best Porsche sports car will be driving a Boxster or Cayman.
Quote from minute 6:04 "Of coure, rear-wheel drive as god intended a car to be" - maybe this is the lost 11th commandment "You shall only embrace rear-wheel drive".
Interestingly the bible refers to FIAT a couple of times, but there is not one single nod to Porsche, and I really cannot think of a recent rear-wheel drive FIAT model...
Obviously the good Lord was referring to the fiat currency one would need to buy a Porsche. It has been spoken I command thee. "Let it be done" - Latin translation.
I sat in an early model and my head hit the roof.
I am 6’5”.
Is there more head room in the later models ?
I just recently purchased a 987.1 and feel that there is plenty of head room. I am 6’1” and it seems like there is another 6 inches above my head
Yes.
Let's be honest, the electric steering of the current Porsches have absolutely no feedback. Bring back the type 986 hydrauic assisr steering, which was the best there ever was!
Those cars have never been under $40000.. Back in the nineties when that car 1st came out a fully speck loaded boxer would cost you a close to 60000. I don't know where you got your numbers from but they're not accurate . Because I remember seeing them for sale on the dealership floor
regardless of model... when asked.. just say you drive a " Porsche "..... form is fleeting.. class is permanent ...
I prefer the 986 to the 987. It’s got a unique and quirky Porsche design that really stands out and fits the time period. The 987 looks handsome but is actually quite bland/generic (and bare I say… boring?) on both the exterior and interior.
Goldilocks Zone: 987 S
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Incorrect. The name comes from Boxer and Speedster. Not Roadster. You Americans always get this wrong. Also, the original Boxer had 204hp, not 201.
"The word Boxster derives from a merging of its Boxer engine type (so-called because each pair of pistons move in and out like a boxer’s gloves) and that punchy roadster design." Reference: www.porsche.com/stories/culture/what-do-porsche-model-names-mean#:~:text=Its%20name%20is%20a%20portmanteau.%20The%20word%20Boxster,a%20boxer’s%20gloves)%20and%20that%20punchy%20roadster%20design.
"The Boxster is powered by a 2.5-liter, horizontally opposed ”boxer” engine. This is the first Porsche six-cylinder engine that sports double-overhead cams, 24-valves and water cooling. Horsepower is rated at 201." Reference: www.cars.com/research/porsche-boxster-1997/ Perhaps the 204 hp rating is ROW.
The Ultimate History of Porsche (Gallagher/Smith) pg 132 (specs 204hp). Porsche trademarked both Boxer & Speedster (pg 131) and used the amalgamation of both to name the Boxster. Roadster had nothing to do with it. Why on Earth would Porsche use roadster when everyone else did (Mazda) when they owned Speedster? Your argument is wrong, inaccurate and misleading. The whole idea and styling of the Boxster is a tipping of the hat to the original Speedster (550 Spyder). NB Sturt Gallagher is a former editor of GT Purely Porsche.
I never got the appeal of the 986. Taste aside, there's a reason they depreciated hard. With the 4th gen / 718 4.0 (with aftermarket exhaust) they finally nailed the concept.
Have you ever driven one?
@@deanmarr785 Yes
Once the Boxster hits the 30yr Antique mark, where will prices go? Current best bang for the $ in a used Porsche. Enough current technology but affordable for $15k and under. To bad they are now showing another defect in engines, the timing chain guides and tensioners failing causing detonation! Add that to the IMS fear in people it just sucks Porsche can't build an original long lasting reliable car. Even the current GT3'S having issues with cooling. Every model ever made has needed updating to make them more reliable. Not built like a Honda Toyota or Infiniti. Example, you buy a Boxster S, 2003 with 65k miles, you think wow, fast, handles superb all I need is $ set aside for normal wear and tear like brakes, alternator, water pump, battery, thermostat, things like that. Now you have in top if that, power steering reservoirs that melt n leak, the chains guides, alternator, chain tensioners, IMS bearing, a coolant expansion tank reservoir which are expensive to replace when they break n leak. You don't worry about stuff like that in other sports cars. Ridiculous they can't build one good car. But if you want a Porsche, you have to be willing to spend the money to make it more reliable and to enjoy longer.
Sheesh I bought my boxster for 4500 bucks with only 80k miles on it
When driving a convertible, please put the side windows down! I own a 1998 Guards red, tan interior Boxster. Thanks.
Side windows were kept up to help keep the lapel microphones from picking up wind noise.
If the side windows had been down, along with road noise that would have disturbed the audio track, if not making it wholly inaudible, and the camera would have been subjected to considerable wind buffeting, diminishing video quality.
And the unusual feeling of intimacy that characterizes the Boxster cabin would also have been lost. I love the feel of the car with the windows up, And with the windows down. Despite being very tall, I've always been a coupe guy. My wife, also north of 6 feet, has taught me the virtues of top-down driving. I like the Cayman tremendously: it's a Brilliant road and track car, but we both Love our Boxster.
It's akin to the difference between the Rolls Royce Owner's Club and the Bentley Drivers Club. Cayman and Boxster both beg to be driven; for us, the wind-in-the-hair dimension and the contrast between the intimate cabin and unlimited headroom make the Boxster our ride of choice.
The Cayman makes me feel like a better, more competent and competitive driver. The Boxster makes me feel more fully human. While neither leaves me wanting, I know which one I will take...
@@PorscheClubofAmerica I knew you were going to say that. Lume cube sells some nice furry microphone covers. I think Walmart has some also.
@@davidkellogg9176 Wow Dave, you wrote a long comment. Do you own a Rolls Royce and a Bentley, or are you just name dropping? I made some experimental videos in my Boxster using a GoPro Hero 7. My Wife and I can be heard talking just fine, no problem. The side windows up on a convertible is like saying "I bought a convertible, but the wind bothers me". My motorcycles don't have side windows. Sorry, I'm laughing while writing this. All in good fun. Thanks for commenting. I'll upload some of the Boxster video on my channel soon. 👍😀
I drive with the top down and the windows up all the time. Aside from being none of your concern what someone else does in their car, The 986 has phenomenal air flow with the windows up when the top is down. You can talk to the passenger in a normal voice, listen to the radio, talk on speaker phone, and even drive with the top down on really cold days.
In my 986 the top is rarely up and the windows are rarely down.
986 2.5 triptronic S or NOTHING!
brevity
What a bore!
And the comparison doesn't hold for a second, between a 25 years old model without personality, without power and a fabulous machine of power, reactivity and balance.
What a boring waste of time.
The 718 Gts 4.0 is fabulous!
Have you driven a 986 at full tilt? It's a lot of fun. Of course, it's hard to be compared to a 4.0. That said, owners of each should be proud.
Guys make the videos more shorter
Check out our other videos. We have shorter ones too.
"No AIDS is the preferred method." Umm, yeah...
aidES. Like assisting/a help.
Compare the Boxster s 3.2 with the 718 gts not the 2.5 which not a good car and slow
I’d rather drive a slow car fast