Nikon Z fc Review - Did Nikon get retro right?

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  • @jan-hendrikbussmann4644
    @jan-hendrikbussmann4644 Před 2 lety +143

    Never mind the camera, this is worth watching for that amazing winter alone! Wow, is your patch of the world beautiful!

    • @scottslotterbeck3796
      @scottslotterbeck3796 Před 2 lety +12

      It gets old, really quick.

    • @snagra71
      @snagra71 Před 2 lety +9

      Trust me. It hurts. It's not fun.

    • @ArturoTabera
      @ArturoTabera Před 2 lety +3

      @@scottslotterbeck3796 It gets cold, really quick.

    • @SaxonSuccess
      @SaxonSuccess Před 2 lety +2

      They've got Trudeau though. That kind of takes the shine off...

    • @jameshuang3898
      @jameshuang3898 Před rokem

      You don’t want this, trust me 😂

  • @siewyuk
    @siewyuk Před 2 lety +76

    Only Canadian reviewers can feel build material quality through their mitts. True talent! Thanks for braving it for the review!

  • @maricello13
    @maricello13 Před 2 lety +58

    Someone probably already commented this, but on the other Zs (and D750) you turn Auto iso on and off by holding the iso button and spinning the front wheel. No need to customise anything for that 😊

    • @artsilva
      @artsilva Před 2 lety +4

      obviously!
      The Z fc is a totally different design layout. It is of the old school manual dials of fundamental SLR cameras of the past. The argument is that if Fujifilm can put "auto" on their dedicated printed ISO, Aperture and SS dials, why couldn't Nikon do it?!
      Yes the is a M/A/S/P/Full Auto switch for Manual, Aperture, Shutter Speed, Program, Full Auto [for dummies]... but they left out ISO priority or a way to mix and match on the physical top plate.
      With my Fujis I sometimes quickly switch to Aperture Priority by moving my SS and ISO dials to Auto and just control my aperture ring while I have previously set limits to my auto SS and ISO for when I switch into A priority for street photography for instance.
      Nikon could easily do this and I hope they do in the next iteration, heck they have the excellent matrix and center weighted metering for it.

    • @EdwardMartinsPhotography
      @EdwardMartinsPhotography Před 2 lety +1

      @@artsilva It's just poor or incompetent design. The other thing that really bothers me about the Z system is the complete lack of any kind of manual focus distance scale anywhere. Other than those issues though, the Z's are brilliant.

    • @artsilva
      @artsilva Před 2 lety

      @@EdwardMartinsPhotography Keep in mind, the Z fc is a smaller brother of the Df with the same dial design which I said that I wish they would have implemented Fuji's auto settings. However the Df is the only modern "Retro" body that will accept EVERY F lens made including the Pre-Ai... but I digress.
      The Z lens design is quite typical of all mirrorless lenses in Focus-by-Wire focusing. It would cost more to have G series type focus override or a clutch like the original 14, 16 and 23mm Fujis which I think would be Awesome. This is what's keeping me from FULLY transferring over to the Z system. I'm still using my G series on the Z via the FTZ and it's quite good.

    • @matt_mkv
      @matt_mkv Před 2 lety +2

      @@EdwardMartinsPhotography I dunno, I came from Fujifilm cameras and using the front dial for the Auto ISO toggle was intuitive to the point where I just assumed it was the front dial while holding the ISO button and it worked. One of the things I enjoyed the most getting a Z6 after only ever owning fujifilm cameras was the user interface and how intuitive it felt to me.

  • @BusyZyoung
    @BusyZyoung Před 2 lety +16

    I love my zfc. It really brings back the joy of photographing for me, especially with its lovely shutter sound. Great walk around camera.

  • @Joseph-iu6ip
    @Joseph-iu6ip Před 2 lety +58

    Good review. I have been using a Z fc for 5 months now alongside my Z7 and I also have a lot of older DX lenses that the Z fc works well with using the FTZ. It has become my main walking around camera and it’s just fun to use.

    • @tylerwhitney
      @tylerwhitney Před rokem

      Older nikon DX lenses are compatible with the Dfc?

    • @Joseph-iu6ip
      @Joseph-iu6ip Před rokem

      @@tylerwhitney yes, with the FTZ I use all the lenses I had with the D5500 on my Zfc.

  • @phillipmaguire4671
    @phillipmaguire4671 Před 2 lety +31

    I have a Zfc camera and to me it is a very capable "weekend" camera, where I can take it with me anywhere, without having the feeling of doing a serious photographic "assignment" as such. Fun to use, bringing back enjoyment of photography for me. Using dials for the most part, instead of sub menus. Knowing I will have great results. It can not and should not be compared to something like the Z6 or Z7, as they are for a different use. It is a great camera to use, bridging the inadequacies of a phone camera and the complications of a fully pro camera. Nikon do need to release a few more Z mount DX lenses to make the experience complete.

    • @unstanic
      @unstanic Před 2 lety +2

      Description of a Fujifilm camera 10 years ago

    • @FauxtakuLounge
      @FauxtakuLounge Před 2 lety +4

      @@unstanic Except that it autofocuses and likely doesn't need firmware update after firmware update to be viable against contemporaries.

    • @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO
      @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO Před 2 lety +1

      The ZFC is one of the WORST cameras Nikon created. Given a choice between a brand new ZFC or a second hand Nikon F2 I would go for the F2 any day.

    • @unstanic
      @unstanic Před 2 lety

      @@FauxtakuLounge I never had issues with not being viable. I was curious about the ZFC's autofocus, as indeed this is Fujifilm's achilles heel, but I was surprised that they said in this video it is only marginal better, given that the Z series have great auto focus. Most likely they didn't beef up this camera as necessary.

    • @unstanic
      @unstanic Před 2 lety +1

      I think indeed it sucks a bit. No auto iso? Tiny little screen for f-stop (wtf)? Cheapo plastic and battery door? No lens options? This seems just like an alpha version product and everyone praising it seem to be exciting early adopters. Coming from Nikon this should be a better implementation from the get go.

  • @rafaeldelauz
    @rafaeldelauz Před 2 lety +23

    The Zfc has a key advantage over the Fuji system, this camera is part of a system were FF cameras and ASPC camera share same lens mount. Fujifilm is a more complete system, at this time, but if you want ful frame you have to change brands. Nikon is avoiding that mistake.

  • @CarletonTorpin
    @CarletonTorpin Před 2 lety +18

    All that snow makes for the quietest possible exteriors I've ever heard on video. Thanks to both of you guys for braving the wilderness in order to bring us this beautiful video review. :)

  • @trueblack6760
    @trueblack6760 Před 2 lety +16

    Yes, Chris is right! Nikon need to add A mode in the dial.

    • @kamilpotato3764
      @kamilpotato3764 Před 2 lety +3

      They had a perfect template with XT series. Was it that hard to take best bits from it and improve here and there?

  • @FramesTM
    @FramesTM Před 2 lety +35

    Tiring to repeat: Viltrox has 3 APSC primes (35, 50, 85) + Z mount has 40mm f2, 28mm f2.8. A 26mm pancake is on the way. These are all full frame lenses that allow one to use it on both APSC and FF bodies. Did I say it's a fun and a beautiful camera? Cheers!

    • @FramesTM
      @FramesTM Před 2 lety +5

      Absolutely need and want the FF version of this camera with Expeed 7.

    • @SparxNet
      @SparxNet Před 2 lety +8

      Correct. Also, these lenses are priced far more economically and have incredible value for money for the image quality they output (certainly, the Nikon ones). Ideally, the mount should be opened up to third party lens makers but there's an understandable reticence that Nikon has in this regard. A major plus point NOT covered here is the USB-C charging capability while the camera is in use. Oh, and let's not forger that it's the first ever mirrorless Nikon with a fully articulating screen.
      For people complaining about the old-school ergonomics, there are 3rd party grips (if you're not living in Asia, where there is a Nikon one available) - you can have old-school looks or modern hand-grip ergonomics - not both.

    • @Vinterloft
      @Vinterloft Před 2 lety +4

      You shouldn't buy full frame glass for APS-C though, you pay more, carry more and the result is softer than the same glass on full frame. Native glass should always be used no matter the sensor format. You can put the $1200 Nikon 10-24 F4 on the Zfc and I'll put the $899 Fuji 8-16 F2.8 on the X-S10 (same price, has IBIS and tons of other upgrades the Zfc lacks) and my IQ will be better every time. Then again, the Fuji 8-16 is better even when you put the 10-24 on a full frame camera but still.

    • @SparxNet
      @SparxNet Před 2 lety +1

      @@Vinterloft Why do you say that FF glass is softer than APS-C glass when used on APS-C cameras ? Is this an empirical observation or something more technical ?
      Buying FX Nikon lenses while owning only a DX camera is a choice (not everyone needs to opt for it) - it also allows for a seamless "upgrade" to FX.
      :-) I see your Fuji "preference" shining through here just like my own one for Nikon. Yes, Fuji has the upper hand in a number of lenses and the mirrorless ecosystem as do other manufacturers because of Nikon's late pivot to mirrorless. But the Z lens ecosystem is developing consistently and giving very, very good lenses at decent price points (not cheap, certainly, but not expensive either). All in all, the people who buy this camera won't be disappointed with it or the images it produces.

    • @FramesTM
      @FramesTM Před 2 lety

      @@Vinterloft That would be true for lenses that not designed to resolve 45 megapixels. But these FF lenses are designed to go with Z7 and Z9. Check back on my channel I will soon upload.

  • @LE672AJ
    @LE672AJ Před 2 lety +17

    That’s some solid determination to get out there and shoot this in such freezing temps. And a Canon filming a Nikon… how taboo :)

  • @3sixty2degres
    @3sixty2degres Před 2 lety +20

    I think the idea of the iso set on the dial being the lowest once on auto is a great feature, so once you know it, you set it to 100 before toggling the auto and boom

    • @geoffreybassett6741
      @geoffreybassett6741 Před 2 lety +2

      Agreed, I think that is a fantastic feature. To Chris's point though it should be an option that can be disabled on the camera.

    • @kingsamvisuals
      @kingsamvisuals Před 2 lety +20

      @@geoffreybassett6741 It would make a lot more sense for it to be the highest.

    • @Alex_564
      @Alex_564 Před 2 lety

      If anything it should let the user choose which way it should work. I would think a firmware update can bring that option.

  • @safwathim
    @safwathim Před 2 lety +8

    This entire video is a good test showing that these cameras work well beyond their operating temperature range. The Zfc is rated for only 0c in the low end. I’ve left my non-weather sealed fuji outdoor overnight and they also survive the cold fine. Cheap memory cards fail in the cold though!

  • @HR-wd6cw
    @HR-wd6cw Před 2 lety +7

    One thing I should note regarding the auto ISO, on the FF Z cameras at least (and maybe on the Z50 at least), if you press the ISO button and move the front command dial, this turns on/off Auto ISO. You would have to go into the menus to configure auto ISO but that is a fast way to turn it on/off without having to use the menus.

    • @joekelly9369
      @joekelly9369 Před rokem

      i dont see why hes whining about it ... its right there on a dial , days of film you was stuck with whatever your film was rated at ,

  • @tuomopoika
    @tuomopoika Před 2 lety +11

    Love the dials on my X-T4. I was trying out astro photography in similar temperatures here in Finland. It makes it was more finger friendly experience when you can wear mittens and still change ISO and shutter times.

    • @Mrz8723
      @Mrz8723 Před rokem +1

      Astrophotography with an Xt4? I can’t imagine that body works well in low light.

    • @tuomopoika
      @tuomopoika Před rokem

      @@Mrz8723 full frame would be better for sure.

  • @joeaddison
    @joeaddison Před 2 lety +10

    I highly highly highly recommend the smallrig accessory grip for the zfc like 40 usd and makes the camera feel so much better in my opinion

    • @faisalee
      @faisalee Před 2 lety

      I got that! absolutely beautiful amd matches perfectly with the Zfc!

  • @HonJazzz
    @HonJazzz Před 2 lety +25

    Let’s see Nikon go all out with a DF2 that uses a Z9 sensor.

    • @ductrung3993
      @ductrung3993 Před 2 lety

      a full frame Z fc or a mirrorless DF2 is what we need

  • @davothedon
    @davothedon Před 2 lety +12

    The Z-fc should be good for adapting lenses to, which can be handy.

  • @stavros.fourfourianakis
    @stavros.fourfourianakis Před 2 lety +12

    To tell you the truth the fact that with ISO dial when it is set to Auto-ISO you can set your lowest possible ISO is an advantage to me. This is how I use it actually. I am having it to Auto-ISO all the time and I am using the dial to set the lower possible ISO depending on the light. I use it in Aperture or in Shutter priority (depending on the scene).

    • @hello.itsme.5635
      @hello.itsme.5635 Před 2 lety

      Same here. I would want to have it any other way. It's just logical as it is.

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli Před 2 lety

      I thought of that as well, but honestly, for me it’d be much better the other way around - make the ISO dial set the *highest* allowed number instead. With that I could easily force the camera to shoot at slower speeds in A mode, or let it climb higher if I mount the telezoom, for example.

    • @stavros.fourfourianakis
      @stavros.fourfourianakis Před 2 lety

      @@Ildskalli In my view the upper level can be set from the beginning (in the menu system - as it is already there in Auto-ISO settings), setting the higher ISO is acceptable for you, depending on the noise. So, you should only set the lower ISO value in order to ensure that you have enough light that hits the sensor (so, you have set the lower auto ISO value from the dial and the higher auto ISO value from the settings).

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli Před 2 lety +1

      @@stavros.fourfourianakis
      Sure, it can be done on the menu, but not on the dial, which is what I’d prefer.

  • @bruderg9857
    @bruderg9857 Před 2 lety +3

    The Zfc needs the Smallrig plate to become perfect. You get an AS plate and a nice handle and the plastic battery door is protected, too. I have the TT Artisan 35 F9.5 which works perfectly.

  • @UrbaneHobbit
    @UrbaneHobbit Před 2 lety +2

    Fastastic production values as usual, guys. I can’t imagine how many takes it took to get the ducks to enter with perfect timing at 2:32. Hats off to the animal trainer

  • @psoon04286
    @psoon04286 Před 2 lety +42

    I caught on to the retro styling immediately when the ZFc was first introduced but was so disappointed to learn that IBIS was not in the specs list. I’ve grown to really appreciate the IBIS in my Z5 so was naturally expecting this ‘must have’ feature…….what a pity😔

    • @tielmaster7879
      @tielmaster7879 Před 2 lety +5

      Have a z50 and was also disappointed with a lack of ibis. However, none of my dslr had ibis and they were fine, as is the z50.

    • @thisisbenji90
      @thisisbenji90 Před 2 lety +11

      IBIS is not very retro.

    • @rhietpas
      @rhietpas Před 2 lety +1

      @@thisisbenji90 It's about having modern capabilities in a retro package. If you want actual retro you'd buy a film camera.

    • @unstanic
      @unstanic Před 2 lety +2

      @@rhietpas He was clearly joking... I think the main problem with IBIS is the ability to fit it into a small camera? But I agree, for video is a must have for these kind of cameras.

    • @psoon04286
      @psoon04286 Před 2 lety

      @@unstanic I was skeptical of IBIS when they first appeared nearly 2 decades ago. The early implementation was awkward and not as effective as the lens integral ones, but the one great positive was that regardless of what lens you use you’d have some stabilization. Fast forward to 2019 and I got my shakey, 70 yr old hands on the Z6/7 and saw the near miraculous results of shooting handheld at shutter speeds of less than 1/15 sec! Clips of video too were useable whereas in the past it would cause my audience to get sea sick🤪

  • @kamikazekurt913
    @kamikazekurt913 Před 2 lety +2

    The zfc with the 28mm is a fun camera, my first foray into mirrorless. As a Nikon shooter in both digital and film, if a full frame zfc comes out, I will get it and start down the road of Z mount.

  • @ofmetalphilosophy4837
    @ofmetalphilosophy4837 Před 2 lety +7

    I decided to use MFT if I'm using a crop sensor. Smaller cheaper and ... numerous lenses!

  • @MB-dq2gz
    @MB-dq2gz Před 2 lety +12

    Viltrox does a decent job of covering the APS-C lenses with normal range primes and Nikon compact primes 28mm and 40mm fit well with the body also. I unfortunately purchased a Z50 as a travel camera before hand and I am green with envy of the ZFc alas I can't justify getting one while I have a Z50, so I really hope they put out a full frame model on refresh it down the line!

    • @maxng3977
      @maxng3977 Před 2 lety

      I had a Viltrox 23mm f1.4 (eqv 35mm) too and I can say it is a great match with Zfc for my weekend causal activities. Auto focus is very fast and photo quality is beyond my expectation.

    • @kg22kg
      @kg22kg Před 2 lety

      I have the viltrox 56mm 1.4 for my Nikon z50 and its amazing.

  • @jumpydesign
    @jumpydesign Před 2 lety +1

    The 4 little ducks following each other in slow-mo 😍

  • @chrismaster2002
    @chrismaster2002 Před 2 lety +10

    The Auto ISO behavior is the same as on my Df. They missed the chance to correct some of the weird concept issues . But same as Df for Nikon F the Zfc is a pretty nice camera.

    • @ziginox
      @ziginox Před 2 lety +1

      My friend's D5500 also has the Auto ISO toggle in a separate menu option. It's not just a setting under the ISO setting, really threw me for a loop. Not sure why Nikon still does it that way.
      Really weird that it uses the ISO dial for the lowest minimum ISO, not the highest maximum like would actually be useful.

  • @alainmonnens
    @alainmonnens Před 2 lety +4

    I have been using Fujifilm since 2015, if Nikon would come out with a full frame version it would certainly be tempting.... I have had the Nikon Df in the past.

  • @patrickfitzgerald2861
    @patrickfitzgerald2861 Před 2 lety

    So much fun watching this from Tucson, Arizona! Come on down boys! I think about half of your fellow Canadians are already here! 😎

  • @JoeHoddinott
    @JoeHoddinott Před 2 lety +4

    It is such a fun and capable little camera to use. I've found that the f/1.4 Viltrox AF primes are perfect mates for the Zfc.

  • @danivar86
    @danivar86 Před 2 lety +17

    I love this camera and I will be first in line when the FX version is released, regardless of price. I played with the Zfc in a local store and my only complaint, apart from being DX, is that the wheels felt a bit cheap compared to my Nikon film cameras.

    • @MeowjinBoo
      @MeowjinBoo Před 2 lety

      i own an f3, and its heavy as fuck.

  • @cheetahkid
    @cheetahkid Před 2 lety +2

    I enjoyed my Zfc and using it as my daily uses. I do have Z6 as well as V3. I do have film cameras as well, Nikon F, F2, F3, F4, F5. Zfc reminded me in the old day that why I like it most. Can't wait for full frame version of it.

  • @btswilliam
    @btswilliam Před 2 lety +2

    9:05 I think there was a typo. There's no Fujifilm X-S10 II at the time of this video.

  • @andyandy2731
    @andyandy2731 Před 2 lety +1

    Doing a review at -24C you are our hero!

  • @natedagreat90
    @natedagreat90 Před 2 lety +1

    You can also set auto iso by pressing the iso button and turning the front dial no need to go into the menu on the other z cameras

  • @JohnsClicks
    @JohnsClicks Před 2 lety +4

    I think I prefer the Olympus E-P7. It seems like a more attractive offer- has a lighter body, way more lenses and made for video too (unlike the Fuji lenses).

  • @checksix_TC
    @checksix_TC Před 2 lety +1

    Man negative 24°C! The kind of extreme weather to test a Pentax K3 III! 👌

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen1 Před 2 lety +3

    Great review after a few months of use.
    Im a Nikon fan boy so I have a Z6ii and I bought a Zfc for a get around camera and for my g/g to vlog with.
    I bought the Smallrig grip which makes it much easier to use.
    Like you say its a shame the ISO button does not have a Auto option.

  • @NikonDave
    @NikonDave Před 2 lety +3

    lol. Very enjoyable. I really debated if I wanted to buy this particular camera but I've found as a "Grab and Go" kit where I can put it and the the 3 lenses in a small bag and take off...It's really quite good. The 3 current Nikon DX Z lenses compared to their DX F mount counterparts are exceptional and the vibration control on the lenses is workable. Again, it tends to go out with me when I have no real objective and just want a small kit to have fun, it's very capable. The issues you brought up with ISO controls don't bother me...never owned a Fuji camera and I developed muscle memory quite quickly to get to the controls when I need them. (I almost never shoot auto ISO anyway.). Biggest thing I want in a second generation of this or the Z 50 is the IBIS. I think I've been spoiled by it and even using some of my better adapted F mount DX lenses I notice I miss shots because I shoot handheld at too low a shutter speed expecting the IBIS to help me out when it isn't there. Stay warm and maybe get those poor geese a round to warm them up.

  • @mehmetdarendeli
    @mehmetdarendeli Před 2 lety +1

    I use my Zfc with a SmallRig and Voigtlander VM lenses… if you are comfortable with manual focus, the camera becomes compact and even more fun… I wish they had built a Zf based on Z5… full frame and IBIS would have made this camera amazing for my taste.

  • @j16m02
    @j16m02 Před 2 lety +2

    I have zero interest in this camera, but DANG! -24 C? I'm blown away by you guys and your commitment. Impressive!

    • @problemat1que
      @problemat1que Před 2 lety

      The CIPA rating of the battery probably halved at these temps

  • @PhilThach
    @PhilThach Před 2 lety +5

    I enjoyed your review! The Z fc blows away the X-T3 that I used to own. It has better auto-focus for video and stills and it doesn't have that silly X-tran sensor. I think I may have been the first to come up with the auto-ISO shortcut idea. That is certainly something that needs to be improved and was better on my X-T3. Right now I use my Z fc for landscape work where its small size and weight are great for hiking long distances to a waterfall plus its lenses, while slow, are nice and light and sharp. Again great for landscape work where wide apertures are worthless. I use it the very most for vlogging. It is my number one video camera for my CZcams channel. Thanks to you two for always making great videos.

  • @paceyombex
    @paceyombex Před 2 lety +3

    The main hindrance of the Z fc now is the lack of dedicated APSC lenses. But, at least it was a better route when compared to how Canon treated their EOS-M.

  • @danbuchman7497
    @danbuchman7497 Před 2 lety +2

    -24C equals +249K for those people living in the noct world!
    Great video and hey, the camera is nice to look at (wish someone had mentioned that). 👏

  • @tallaganda83
    @tallaganda83 Před 2 lety +1

    I couldn’t even imagine -20 odd but man it’s stunning.

  • @msg2pnt
    @msg2pnt Před 2 lety +2

    Very good review. Congratulations once more. This is a really beautiful and capable camera. The only thing that concerns me is the lack of IBIS.

    • @OutRAjious
      @OutRAjious Před 2 lety +1

      and grip … they should put the z50 grip onto the zfc and drop the z50

  • @michael-4k4000
    @michael-4k4000 Před 2 lety +2

    There are 3 main controls that is needed on every camera that has ever existed, Aperture, Shutter, ISO. So the question is why do camera companies make it difficult to adjust there’s settings.

  • @CharlieMoger
    @CharlieMoger Před 2 lety +4

    What's an interesting comparison is the Z fc vs the Z50. Two seemingly similar cameras, but quite different to use. I miss the function buttons of the Z50 when on the Z fc, but love the faster auto focus on the prettier of the two. It may be me, but it seem the auto focus also gets a little snappier if I go to 12 bit instead of 14 bit. Anyone else seen similar?

  • @mikele6458
    @mikele6458 Před 2 lety +1

    You can program Auto ISO to the record button. Add auto ISO to the top of the list in "My Menu," then have the record button be the item that is at the top of My Menu.

  • @Dochorahan
    @Dochorahan Před rokem +1

    There is one thing the Z fc does better than Fujifilm...ISO performance and color and build quality. The Z fc is close in build quality to the Fuji, but the buttons, layout, dials and screen felt higher quality. I spent time with a Z fc, XT4, XS10, and XT30 II. Fuji color isn't bad, but Nikon color can't be beat, especially at higher ISO. Also, you can pair the Z fc with a 40mm f/2, 26mm f2.8, 28mm f2.8, 35mm 1.8 S, 50 mm 1.8 S, or even the kit 16-50 lens and 50-250 is great. Also third party options like the voigtlander 35 f1.2, 23mm f1.2, and almost a hundred more. The Z lens lineup is growing fast, and IMO, having owned many crop and full frame sensor cameras, the 20MP Nikon DX sensor is the best in it's class and IMO not even the R7 or XT5 come close to it's performance. No IBIS is not a deal breaker, the VR in the kit lenses are very good and can hand hold shots at 1/4 shutter and get usable sharpness. If not, just bump up the ISO and shutter and the ISO noise is still better than a Fuji with IBIS.

  • @JK-photo77
    @JK-photo77 Před 2 lety +1

    Would be great to see/hear a short video on the experience with adapting some old manual focus lenses to know what the experience is with focus peaking, etc.

  • @d-entrecasteaux
    @d-entrecasteaux Před 2 lety +1

    You guys found the perfect environment to shoot a video on a Canon camera. -24 C and the camera only overheated once. BTW I shoot Canon too.

  • @michastanczyk5704
    @michastanczyk5704 Před 2 lety +3

    Why didn't you mention 28 and 40mm Nikon Z compact primes? They are really small, light and cheap - perfect of this camera.

    • @thisisbenji90
      @thisisbenji90 Před 2 lety +1

      Right? Seems like they ignore those because they’re full-frame, but they’re actually not any bigger than Fuji APSC glass.

  • @ThomasPetzwinkler
    @ThomasPetzwinkler Před 2 lety +2

    Agreed guys. I do use it as my primary filmmaking camera for CZcams because what it does, it does so well. Excellent video autofocus, great flat profile, really good auto iso etc. etc. Fuji is lacking in a huge way on all of those fronts. The DR is also higher than fuji as far as I can tell. So, in the end It's missing lenses and video features but if you hook it to the atomos Ninja V, you find its a very decent video head for a recorder system. Once again the lack of lenses are the issue. Thanks for another great video!

  • @Galeidan
    @Galeidan Před 2 lety +17

    Now if Canon could make full frame RF mount digital AE-1 style camera with own prime lenses 24, 28, 35, 50 and 85mm (that look vintage, metal construction etc.) f 1.8 up to f 2.8. I'd be all over it.

    • @teamhazardous201
      @teamhazardous201 Před 2 lety

      That would be amazing

    • @d-entrecasteaux
      @d-entrecasteaux Před 2 lety

      @@teamhazardous201 agree

    • @cyrfung
      @cyrfung Před 2 lety

      It seems it’s not possible or at least not easy to fit 35mm format sensor in a compact film camera design. Even if they could, modern expectation of lens quality would make the lenses much bigger.

  • @markstemmett5296
    @markstemmett5296 Před 2 lety +1

    Love my Zfc easy, light and takes me back to my first film fg

  • @midwinterphoto
    @midwinterphoto Před 2 lety

    Props for filming outside in that weather Chris and Jordan!

  • @darkdigitalroom1244
    @darkdigitalroom1244 Před 2 lety +5

    I'm so surprised how many camera reviewers don't know how to quickly toggle Auto ISO on Nikon cameras (excluding DF and Zfc). Just press the ISO button and spin the front dial.

  • @SovietLensReviews
    @SovietLensReviews Před 2 lety +2

    Nikon definitely needs a few more cheap and cheerful Z-mount APS-C primes.

  • @robbybred5702
    @robbybred5702 Před 2 lety

    What a magical view! Absolutely beautiful back ground! I almost for got about the review enjoying the scene! Hypnotizing look!

  • @matonmacs
    @matonmacs Před 2 lety +5

    Nikon never filled out DX (APS-C) back in the F mount days. Is there any reason to think they’ll do that now in Z?

    • @justnoted2995
      @justnoted2995 Před 2 lety

      nah, a lot to choose from in DX format, and affordable

  • @ronboe6325
    @ronboe6325 Před 2 lety +2

    I picked up the Z50 (after looking really hard at the Fuji - sticking with one eco system was the main reason I stuck with Nikon). I hope/wish Nikon would come out with a semi-pro version of one of these camera's, with better build quality, faster auto focus, better weather sealing, while maintaining the smaller form factore (it's not much but it packs better for my use case) and still cheaper than a Z6II.

    • @ladislavpomsar1346
      @ladislavpomsar1346 Před 2 lety

      Don't care too much about Nikon' APS-C, Nikon doesn't either. It has what, 2 native lenses? And honestly, pro APS-C makes little to no sense for them as they try to push Z5 lower and lower every time I see it discounted.

  • @markpollon3138
    @markpollon3138 Před 2 lety +8

    Extra kudos deserved for maintaining a sense of humour out in the ridiculously cold weather! “Those are some sad, sad geese”. 😂

  • @stanobert3475
    @stanobert3475 Před 2 lety +1

    What is missing is the Z version of the Nikon 18-300. This would attract much more interest in the excellent Zfc.

  • @OneWeekGetAway
    @OneWeekGetAway Před 2 lety

    Agree, Nikon is a Z8 and a ZF (full frame) from being my system of choice. Their lenses have been amazing and the Z9 and ZFC show what they are capable of.

  • @coolcat23
    @coolcat23 Před 2 lety +1

    2:15 "I don't have to turn on the camera's battery power to see what my settings are." You should try a DSLR; you can then even check the composition of potential images without turning on the camera. Imagine that!

  • @mickeyreasoner
    @mickeyreasoner Před 2 lety

    We use our fc as a weekend camera when taking the 7 II and lenses in it’s big backpack is too much. As such we use the 16-50 primarily. For this use case, we don’t want anything more than a “pocket lense” - but while dx lenses need to be flushed out, we bought an fix F2 40mm, which stays small, was inexpensive, and gives us a faster option at the equivalent 60mm. Got to consider what Fx lenses can be applied to your use case when talking about availability

  • @OutRAjious
    @OutRAjious Před 2 lety +1

    on paper the fuji xs10 would be the best option but just cannot deny the pop of the nikon images , they are so appealing ..
    could i get that pop out of the rather flat fuji?

  • @brianaddison2828
    @brianaddison2828 Před 2 lety

    Zfc + 40mm f/2 Z lens = winner. Great review! Really informative. Some of the new lenses lost after the interview are really great for it and under 200 g

  • @waltertomashefsky2682
    @waltertomashefsky2682 Před 2 lety +1

    Say what you will about Chris, but he does know how to get all his ducks in a row. 2:41.

  • @AnthonyMarkSchellenberg

    Viltrox Viltrox Viltrox. You mention hoping Nikon or third party manufacturers will support the Z dx, that would have been a great time to mention Viltrox. I have their 23mm f1.4 dx z mount auto-focus lens and it's wonderful. I also have their 85mm 1.8 which is full frame. Viltrox also has a 33mm f1.4 and 56mm f1.4 dx in z mount and those look fabulous. Nikon does have a wide angle zoom dx z mount finally on their roadmap so that will help as well. I'm loving my z50 and zfc, using them both for some professional work. Thanks for the review!

  • @lsaideOK
    @lsaideOK Před 2 lety +3

    I wouldn't hold my breath if you're waiting for Nikon to flesh out the dx lens lineup. They didn't keep the f mount dx lineup up to date. They expect that most Z fc users will stick with the kit lenses. This pushes those who wish to expand their kit to full frame which is where Nikon wants them to be.

  • @Specializedfabu
    @Specializedfabu Před 2 lety

    Ich hatte die Zfc für 6Monate mit dem 28mm Kit.Sie fühlt sich sehr günstig verarbeitet an. Man kann definitiv heute Bilder mit ihr machen, aber man ist wirklich sehr Objektiv eingeschränkt. Das was Nikon gerade nach und nach auf den Markt bringt ist Qualitativ (haptik) gruselig.Wenn APSC dann Fuji,einfach mal in den Laden gehen und anfassen.Ich habe nach 15Jahren Nikon ins Fuji Lager gewechselt.Und habe es nicht eine Sekunde bereut!

  • @koolkutz7
    @koolkutz7 Před 2 lety +5

    Nice review of a decent looking camera. I still feel that Fujifilm is the king of aps-c mirrorless though due to their extensive native lens line-up. I bought the X-S10 with the 18-55mm f2.8-4 and it is a great little package for stills and video. I was hoping that Nikon would release a flagship DX z-mount camera akin to the D500 (maybe a baby Z9).

  • @Honkus
    @Honkus Před 2 lety +12

    If only a Z F (full frame) was on it's way with a normal flip up screen :D , the would be just wonderful ::D Still, the Z Fc is a heck of a camera, and I wouldn't mind having one as a second camera.

    • @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO
      @PSYCHIC_PSYCHO Před 2 lety

      You would be better off using a fart in place of a ZFC

  • @eddiecarrasco878
    @eddiecarrasco878 Před 2 lety

    I think as an intro to aps-c cameras the Z fc is focusing on simple camera to carry around and you can do simple vlogs. I think of this camera as a simple everyday carry camera that doesn't take up too much space and is beautiful to look at.

  • @jaybleu6169
    @jaybleu6169 Před 2 lety +2

    I have the Z FC and a Fuji, and don't understand the complaint about lack of lenses. Yeah, Fuji has a lot of lenses in APS-C format, but many of them are also expensive. I have all 3 DX format lenses he mentions in the review, and they are actually really spectacular. I also have the FX format 24-200, which is also great and covers 99% of my shooting situations. beyond that, the 200-500 F-mount works great FTZ adapter, so you also have the whole F range (except the ones that lack a focus motor in the lens, unless you want to shoot them as manual). The lack of such a zoom is actually the main thing that swings me from Fuji to Nikon. Fuji has no single lens that covers this range. The Viltrox primes for the Z are really nice, too, in APS-C format. Also, if you do want to shoot manual focus, you have basically every manual focus lens ever made that can be adapted and also work great with the Z FC.
    So, yeah... the FX lenses (whether Z or F mount) work great on the Z FC, and Fuji lenses are also expensive. There is no shortage of lenses for this camera. If anything, there's an overabundance, and you'll spend all your money on lenses if you don't watch out.

  • @andrewdavies2109
    @andrewdavies2109 Před 2 lety +1

    Great review, thanks! I don't agree about the need for a FF version as the priority. Surely they need to fill out the dx lenses, or give sigma/Tamron access so they can. The APS-C sensor makes a lot of sense in a hybrid due to the faster readout... So more APS-C lenses and a z fcv with better video....?

  • @numovie
    @numovie Před 2 lety

    Jordan did a wonderful job with the audio in this one!

  • @TenTen-ns7pt
    @TenTen-ns7pt Před 2 lety

    The lowest iso selected in the button while using the auto iso is very useful for low light with flash shooting (ie: in the room), otherwise, the camera will shoot with the lowest iso (base iso, for image quality) since the camera will think that the illumination is enough only by the flash, that will make the ambient light become mostly gone (black/dark).

  • @joshuatatro4503
    @joshuatatro4503 Před 2 lety +5

    Yeah, it is a pretty camera, but what a tough sell when the Fuji X-T3 is just as pretty for about the same price with better ergonomics, better sensor, dual card slots, better lens selection, better build, better video, etc. Even worse when you consider that this is more likely than not one-off from Nikon.

    • @Ildskalli
      @Ildskalli Před 2 lety

      Ergonomics are very subjective, and I simply don’t like the X-T’s. They’re also uglier, aping some Contax cameras but not quite committing to the design either. And then the Nikon has better AF, better compact lenses (Fujifilm can’t touch the three native zooms for Z DX), more friendly video features, better flash options, and a 35mm system that it’s fully compatible with.
      If a 35mm sensor factors even a tiny bit in your plans, there’s simply no comparison - it’s the Z fc or nothing.

    • @Ruylopez778
      @Ruylopez778 Před 2 lety

      I guess some people like the appeal of Nikon, which feels a much more genuine legacy camera than Fuji, ripping off Contax and Leica with the X-T and X100. And for some, they remember how the x-series were plagued with crap firmware, crap AF and bugs when they first came out...

    • @OchaFauzan01
      @OchaFauzan01 Před 2 lety

      @@Ildskalli ergonomics is not subjective when you compare a camera with literally no protruding grip vs something that has one despite of its small sizd lmao

  • @davect01
    @davect01 Před 2 lety

    Stunning Winter Pictures.
    So glad I don't have to live in snow.

  • @terrywbreedlove
    @terrywbreedlove Před 2 lety

    FF Z mount lenses on the ZFc makes perfect sense. If your ZFc is a second camera along with a FF Z camera or if you plan to move up to FF in the future. Fuji users are stuck at apsc forever or forced to buy all new lenses if they move to a FF system.

  • @ChristianLink
    @ChristianLink Před 2 lety

    good video - lovely snowy setting... I wish we would have some snow in Berlin.
    Good review of the camera, I'm planning to get one at the end of the month.
    Viltrox has made some really nice lenses, I guess I'll get the 23mm, 33mm and 56mm, too.
    I'm using a D800 mainly but it's a heavy, big beast and I don't want carry it everyday (anymore).
    So, the small & light Z fc will be my daily "always in my pocket" camera and with a FTZ adapter I can also use the "big lenses" (some Sigma ART lenses, etc.).
    I'll keep the D800 - it's still a good camera.

  • @ericthestone
    @ericthestone Před 2 lety +1

    Definitely need to add a smallrig grip to complete the ergonomics of this body. The auto iso issue is annoying, hopefully they will address that with a firmware update, at least let us add to the i menu.

  • @RandyMoe
    @RandyMoe Před 2 lety

    Love mine. I have many cameras. I bought the SmallRig grip with Arca plate asap. Essential!

  • @el-drk
    @el-drk Před 2 lety

    Beautiful scenery, I wish I knew where they filmed this video!

  • @juan_samuel9939
    @juan_samuel9939 Před 2 lety +1

    Love your video's, could you maybe do a shootout between the Z50 and the Fuji X-S10. I think that would be really interesting.

  • @MaxRomantschuk
    @MaxRomantschuk Před 2 lety

    Well done to Chris and Jordan for braving the cold. I was just out with my Z5 here in the Helsinki region for some winter wonderland shooting. And all went well until my aperture didn't keep up anymore and couldn't stop down fast enough. (Older adapted F-mount lens.) Ergonomics with mitts on are totally a thing! I've even bought separate hunting mittens that let you expose individual fingers, which seems to be a good option triggering other things than weapons. :)

  • @daustonian9331
    @daustonian9331 Před 7 měsíci

    How about a Megadap E to Z adapter and using Sony’s plethora of APSC lenses? I’ve had good luck with this on the full frame side and Lightroom even shows the Nikon body and the Sony lenses for all adjustments!

  • @cotswoldphotographers
    @cotswoldphotographers Před 2 lety +1

    It’s a lovely little camera and agree with you about the leatherette plastic! 😂 I’d have thought they’d be copying the Z50 🤔 that said it’s not much different in my opinion to my X100v
    My wife has the Zfc and we both love it and she’s bought a fitted leather case which imo improves the feel and grip and adds protection for the battery flap! I sure the lens roadmap will improve however it’s never been on Nikons agenda even with the f mount so thank heaven for the third parties like Viltrox with the apsc 1.4’s

  • @HesselFolkertsma
    @HesselFolkertsma Před 2 lety

    I wish our winters were like yours!

  • @buchsg
    @buchsg Před 2 lety +1

    Viltrox already made nice lenses for z mount apsc cameras… I paired mine with a 33mm f1.4, all metal construction and aperture ring for 300€…

  • @benjhaisch
    @benjhaisch Před 2 lety

    I feel like you guys failed to mention if you liked the styling at all? Can you please do a follow up giving your thoughts about how it looks?

  • @justinw1563
    @justinw1563 Před 2 lety

    Those mits look so friggin cozy and as a fellow chilly Canadian, I would love a pair!! Also, the camera looks cool, I suppose haha.

  • @alanmurphy9263
    @alanmurphy9263 Před 2 lety

    I keep thinking about -24c, i got 6c and im too chicken to go out to shoot!
    Well done guys gr8 review

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen1 Před 2 lety +1

    As for more Nikon DX lenses, I wonder if it is due to the fact that not many DX users buy more than 1 or 2 lenses, or is it that there are so few lenses to chose from?
    We are all wondering if Nikon will produce a z30 or a z90 this year, that may encourage them to make more DX lenses. There are some 3rd party ones, but most are manual.

  • @TMM6900
    @TMM6900 Před 2 lety

    7:12. That's so cute. Line up!

  • @ArturoTabera
    @ArturoTabera Před 2 lety

    The little goose at 3:10 "O.K. you guys. I'll hide behind the presenter of this YT Channel. Don't wait up!"

  • @WestVillage-vv3hg
    @WestVillage-vv3hg Před 2 lety +1

    Great looking camera. Too bad about the lack of DX lenses. It needs a pancake 18mm f/2 to pair with the 28mm (42mm), at the very least.
    The dials are great, even the small LCD for the aperture values is great.
    Too bad it feels like tupperware in the hand.