Intel, what HAPPENED? i5 vs i7 Laptop Performance
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- What is the best Intel laptop CPU you can buy for thin and light ultrabooks? Well Intel might want you to believe their Tiger Lake i7 is the answer but that might not be the best answer. While testing the Razer Book 13 we noticed that the i5 chip ended up being a LOT better than we expected. So when looking to buy the best laptop for the money, how does the i7 vs i5 CPU situation really stack up?
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Timestamps:
0:00 - i5 vs i7 Intro
1:48 - i5-1135G7 vs i7-1165G7 Specs
3:42 - I'm Sorry!
4:27 - Why this matters
4:56 - i5 vs i7 Temperatures, Power & Clock Speeds
6:40 - What's HAPPENING Here?
7:40 - Long term performance = i5 DOMINATION?
8:34 - Real World Performance (Multi Core)
9:36 - Real World Performance (Light Load)
10:09 - Gaming Performance
10:45 - Battery Life
10:57 - i5 vs i7, Creator vs Gaming
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ugh thats why Laptop buying is such a horrendous jungle. Specs are meaningless. you have to account and test the whole system, and comparing reviews are incredible rare.
Especially now when AMD 5900HX laptop cpu mops the floor with everything Intel has to offer in terms of price, performance, thermals and power consumption
@@HoodHussler not exactly In some cases intel performance is better then amd in laptops
@@battlebuddy4517 it performs great in the Asus Strix G15 as for the Zephyrus Duo 15 it got an update that made it more beastly and since the cpu doesn’t consume that much power u can use the msi vbios and get the tgp of the 3080 to 150W with no problems
@@HoodHussler that’s not what he’s saying at all. He’s saying things like how the SI designs thermals and does power optimization can be just as important as the specs themselves, so you can’t shop laptops by specs alone.
@@TheJacobshapiro that’s why I mentioned those 2 models because so far they provide the most out of the cpu but if we take a look at the blade17 pro it has the sweetest thermals and on paper it should perform way less than it does but in reality it’s a beast so again check it and the Zephyrus Duo 15 if u want the most out of ur system
The computer you want will always cost $2000, whether it is 1981 or 2021.
Nice quote.
$2000 in 1981 is $5,755 today tho
@@fran2911 **comment explained** ==> a beast pc back in 1981 costed $1000+ in 1981 money and a beast pc today still costs $1000+ but in 2021 money. inflation is completely irrelevant here they both end up with the same price tag
@@fran2911 inflation also affects the parts, the performance is going to be more a heck of a lot more than a 3x multiplier. The point the commenter was making is that you are going to be paying topshelf pricing for top shelf performance no matter the day and age you are in.
@@careyosoup274 oh, yeah lol
AMD has officially slapped Intel so hard they've swapped the labels on the i7 and i5.
LOL!!!
that slap was some time ago.
and they still felt that clap until today
Now that is a funny comment!
@zulfikangga Idk which area you living but granted my friend asking for recommendation Ryzen laptop which variable option and stock
@@micahdavis3437 That ain't a Zen3 cpu. so no stock issues.
I love that Eber says 'spend responsibly' at the end of every video. Most underrated advice especially in these days..
Agreed I have an i7 🤦🏻♂️
I have been coming recently pretty often to Eber's reviews. They have that cozy and personal aura that makes you feel like you are at quiet home and a long time friend is calmly giving you buying advice, willing to answer even the most basic questions. 'Spend responsibly' is cherry on top in that case and encompasses that good willingness.
Spending responsively would probably mean going with amd for portable systems lmao.
Jesus loves us all that's why he died for our sins.
So the i7 is basically a binned i5. Nice one Intel.
lol
binned i5? it's slower at prolonged loads lol, binned CPU-s don't act like that
It has been the case since 3rd gen core for thin and light laptop lol(with the only exception of i7-10710u being 6 cores whereas i7-10510u and i5-10210u being 4 cores in the same generation)
Technically speaking this isn't new. Most I5's are I7's that failed to hit the engineering specifications of their I7 counterpart. For example a 6700k and 6600k are the same silicon, possibly from the same wafer even. But the 6700k passed its probe inspection for PPW and defect, while the 6600k failed to meet PPW expectation of the 6700k or a non-critical defect was detected. They then fuse off cores (if applicable, it wouldn't be in this comparison) and disable certain functions like HT, and have a 6600k if it at least meets the binning parameters of that spec.
No, they are not binned i7's because of the three megs per core vs two megs for L3, plus the igpu cores difference.
This was probably one of the most useful review videos I watched comparing the i5 to i7. I ended up going with the i5 and 16GB memory.
Sooo Intel is not just slower than AMD they’re slower than themselves???
lol...yep
Hahaha
As a PC guy with 3 razer laptops I have to say: new M1 macbooks are insane. The confidence in battery life is something else. For a gaming rig ryzen is phenomenal too. We need to let Intel dwell on their future and be better.
insane , are you joking. got m1 and ryzen 3500 also
@Ice Bear-imnida m1 not perform as multi tasking. other will be reduce or suspend more background..
@@rebelsdeveloper367 M1 does a great job while multitasking. In fact it is one of its major strengths.
@@ksp3324 nope . maybe your workload doesnt yet crash .
As a guy with 3 (overprized) razor laptops you have a ton of money to waste and thats why you have no problem buying into the apple eco system lol
The audio in this video is IMPRESSIVELY good! I know, weird comment lol, but the vocals were so good it sounded/looked like a voice over.
Great content as well. I've seen a few vids from this channel over the last few weeks and finally subbed today.
Keep up the good work!
The naming is so bad that the description have a typo in it lol
What typo?
@@Moonlight-sj7qc I'm asking what the typo is.
@@dhilsiva he put i7-1156G7 instead of i7-1165G7
@@coolerdan446 oh ok.
Great video, great idea. I think there is another thing that could bei interesting to look at: differences in perfomance of normal thin convertibles in clamshell vs. Tent mode. Asus and a lot of miners claim its better in tent mode
Great Presentation ... clear, concise and compelling. Thank you for your professional review, i.e., analytical exposition, critical context, and integrational conclusion.
This video genuinely surprised me. Outside of gaming, seeing the i5 beat the i7 is trippy. They ought to state power limits as a bare minimum. 20W on both might mean a similar performance but there is also so much going on under the hood (as you said, larger cache size = more power draw)
I checked the Intel site and compared them. The i5 and the i7 have similar TDP-up and TDP-down yet have different clock-speeds. It now sounds plausible that even with max wattage, the i5 would have beaten the i7 in productivity tests. This is trippy.
To your surprise i3 1125g4 is also 4 core 8 thread cpu and it's about 5% slower than i5 1135g7 because it's underclocked version of i5 and that's why i3 1125g4 is most power efficient.
trippy, dude, trippy.
Jesus loves us all that's why he died for our sins.
My pc i5 10500h beats a i7 10750h, but both processors are beated up by i3 10100.. At the same time paired with good ram and good video combo, can reach i5 10500 dekstop. Crazy
I like the wallpapers you have applied on your laptops from where you have downlaoded
Hi, I ran into your video after trying to find a reasonably priced i7 in the market, and thanks to you I am now looking for an i5. Thank you so much for this information!
Great video. Thanks. Would you consider doing a review on the Surface Pro 9 i5 vs i7? Or would I be correct in thinking it would be the same result?
Absolutely agree with this review! I personally have i5 1135g7 but with 16 gigs of ram. It is almost on a par with i7 version and when it throttles in heavy load tasks the workink frequencies of both processors are pretty much the same. And battery mode is more suitable for gaming since there is no overheating as in plugin mode.
very clear voice nice explanation really love u r words , like u r deep dig into power consumption and temperature levels under workload but wants know the real time performance or loading speed comparison when opening or working on IDE (vs or any) can u please provide the comparison o that perspective bcz it is very much needed as no body checking on running IDEs . waiting for ur ans
Could it be therml paste application problem? The temperature feel bit off..?
Really great analysis, followed by great advice....thx
Great video! Its a shame buying a laptop can be such a messy affair these days... I ended up getting a Lenovo ideapad 5 14", i5, 16gigs, 512 storage from costco for $600. Very happy with my decision.
Que tal es la pantalla y duración de bateria quiero comprarme la lenovo ideapad 5i
They probably knew that the i5 actually performed better, that's why they didn't even offer 16GB of memory for the i5 to try and stunt it's performance... The paltry 8GB of NON-UPGRADABLE memory that comes with the i5 model is very anti-consumer...
Jesus loves us all that's why he died for our sins.
i think performance is set by the manufacturers to protect their product from overheating.
this is why we need more videos like this
subscribed
Excuse me to ask, is there a laptop specs with core i7 , ram16Gb dual channel / 512ssd ram (upgrade & there is 1 empty slot), nvidia rtx gpu, thunderbolt port, 100% srgb fhd ips. With the cheapest price, what type of brand? Thx
Thanks this was helpful! I'm looking at LG Gram laptops with either i7-1165G7 or i5-1135G7 CPU's. Since I'm not a power user and both have 16Gb of RAM, I'm leaning toward i5. However, the i5 doesn't have a touchscreen, which seems silly to me.
That graph presentation is Amazing, simple and easy to understand.
At 10:08 or -2:02, you mentioned is the extra money worth it for the i5 for it being "faster". Did you mean the i7? Thanks in advance for any clarification.
Sir, your voice is so soothing it almost feels unreal.
Suggestion
I am currently looking for laptop for college, I have settled on the Xps 13 with
8 GB Ram and 256 SSD.
I need help deciding between a I5 for $800 or I7 for $1000
ps I know nothing about laptops thanks for the help.
Nice Analysis ; i need one quick advice. i need to take one laptop very soon. i found these choices. i would like to know which one is the better one to pick? 1) "i5 11th gen 16gb ddr4 with mx450 (gddr5)" hp pavilion eg series here in india (Vs) 2) "Ryzen 7 5700u" 8gb (4+4 ddr4 with 1 sodim slot to upgrade to 12gb) Asus flip 14 tm420ia (Vs) 3) "Ryzen 7 4800u" 8gb LPDDR4X (slim 7 4800u) which is the best choice among these three...??
Hello bro can u please tell me which is better between ryzen 7 4700u or intel i5 11th gen with 8gb ram?
Good video, which illustrates how a PC manufacturers configuration choice can cripple the performance of i7 processor Vs its i5 counterpart. The new GPD Win 3 gaming handheld has two versions based on the exact same Intel Tiger Lake processors and both versions have 16 GB RAM, but the i7 was the clear winner on performance, except for the low power settings. The main difference between GPD and Razer is GPD allows you to adjust configuration of their devices CPU TDP in BIOS or using a utility such as QuickCPU, viz.15 - 20 W, 20 - 25 W or 25 - 28 W. Does QuickCPU work on the Razer Book 13?
is there much difference between i5 10500h/i7 10870h in temperatures and fps in gaming?
Yup. Absolutely similar trends and benchmarks were observed on my reviews too for the 2 different laptops running an Intel i5 and i7 11th gen respectively.
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we've been trained to buy i7s if we can afford them.
This ☝️
Hey that was really informative .... Thanks buddy.. :)
Link for the squirtle wallpaper from thumbnail please
what is the maximum ram that can be used for this intel i5-1135G7? is it possible to use 24gb (8+16)?
bro please give the link to the wallpaper used in the thumbnail. Both the pikachu and the other one
Does anyone know how this applies to the xps or the spectre?
Could you please tell me, which microphone you are using?
Thank you so much Eber! I have been thinking about this a lot because I'm looking to buy an ultraportable laptop soon and I was thinking if an i7 was worth the higher price or if I should just go with an i5 if it had 16 GB RAM. This video was a pleasant surprise and helped me a lot in making a decision. Now I'll definitely go with an i5 with 16 GB RAM (if I don't get a Ryzen laptop).
So, It's better to have a 16GB RAM Laptop than an i7 core instead of the i5?
hey guys, I'm buying an ideapad gaming 3 with either intel 5 11320h or ryzen 5 5600h ( no price difference and the rest of the specs are the same for both pcs ) Which processor is better intel 5 11320h or ryzen 5 5600h ? I really really would appreciate it
Thank you! That was very useful and the video was well made!
I have the i5 model which works for my use case. Just to share about the weight difference it is because one has a touch screen and the other does not.
Thanks a lot for such a detailed analysis 👍🏻
It has weeks since I searching laptop to replace my old one, and 2021 is a year where a lot of options that makes it really hard to choose (at leqst for me) ..now after watching this review, I can't help but to reset my list, and starting put considerations for i5 too 😭 (would be easier if u just has budget to get top tier laptops) ..anyway, thank you for this, its 100% helpfull for us (the best value laptop hunters)
Finally a video that addresses what I need to know right now!
What lamp is that you’re using over the laptops? Gives a great light! Great and clear video as usual
Im not tech savvy, can anyone explain their differences, pros and cons, and which one is better overall?
The most soothing voice on CZcams - and great tech content, as well!
Corteks: bet
Have you ever watched mrwhosetheboss ?
@@DakshBabbar yes, he is amazing too. Both guys are really good but mrwhosetheboss has content that its not close to his.
Anyone have an opinion on which Core would be better suited for day to day, general computing, Movies, music, music vides etc. A computer for entertainment, light administrative work. i5 1235U vs i7 1165G7
Can anyone help me out here.. i5 12500h vs i711800h which should I choose?
That's a great comprehensive review, Thanks.
I found this channel a few weeks ago because I'm looking for a new laptop. It's my "go to" channel now. 👍👍
Might wana check out Dave2D as he has a lots of laptop vids and reviews well from an average users perspective.
That guy is awesome too.
@@mxhusky5308 Just Josh and Jarrod'st tech are also both really good
+1 for Just Josh :)
Haha yeah me too
Just found your channel yesterday and I'm loving your videos, they have excellent analysis and production.
But I have to complain about the plots in this video, the constant switching of the i5 and i7 positions on the bar plots. Having to check which one was were every time a new plot was shown made it unnecessarily difficult to follow along the presentation while not adding any meaningful info to the visualization since the compassion of 2 items in trivial.
This is not like the GamerNexus's temperature ranks with 20-ish items to keep sorted (and even then they highlight each item they mention to assist the viewer), but a small comparison of a handful of items. With so few qualitative values it would have been better to keep them in a consistent position / color. You could have used red bars for the i5 to maintain the colors of the time series plots.
That's it, a small that you might consider in the future. Thank you all for this awesome content!
where can I get those wallpapers??
So if the I7 had a performance mode which boosted power output it would have done better? If that's the case pretty stupid for it not to have that feature. I imagine it wouldn't be difficult at all to fix?
I bought a laptop with the i5 1135g7 and 16GB of memory last month. Good to know it performs as well as the i7.
The integrated Xe graphics is 3x the UHD 620 graphics performance in 8th gen intel chips.
I wanna ask, if I upgrade my ram to 16 GB, will the GPU perform better, mine is i7 1165g7.
@@mayankpriya6831 it might. I'm not sure how your particular laptop is otherwise configured, though. It either will help graphics about 20%, or not at all, but using apps should be smoother and more enjoyable with 16GB.
I'm thinking of buying an Ideapad 5 14 with the i5 1135g7 , XE Graphics and 16 GB Ram. It's 699€ now. Do you think I should get it?
@@Dan-sw8tg that's a good hardware configuration for a decent price, but I can't really tell you if you should buy it or not.
@@davidgunther8428 how is the single core performnce
So in real time use, which one would perform better if you're using Chrome with multiple windows and tabs open at the same time? (is the multicore performance more important here? Or the cahce and eGPU acceleration)?
Thank you.
Hi ... I have a brand new Framework notebook with one of these i5, 32GB RAM (expandable to 64), a 1 TB WD Black SN850, a 3.39MA resolution screen (2256 x 1504) -- around $1500 with extra 250GB disk and some port expansions -- ... and 20 tabs is like nothing for the machine (well, not Chrome but Firefox on Ubuntu).
I am still testing it in different scenarios, but it is really like a space shuttle. In fact, Framework has practically identical motherboards with the referred Intel chips; could be a better comparison hardware that the ones used here.
Most laptops have 2 sodimm slots so why can't someone upgrade the ram? I am really here because All in Ones utilize the same principles... I was debating getting the i7 instead of the i5 but then I read a review that hyperthreading in i7 slows down the system and now you say there is not much difference between the two so I am left with wondering if I go with the i5 can I utilize ADOBE ILLUSTRATOR with no problem?
I wonder how the i7 model performs if Throttlestop / XTU is used to reduce the PL1/2 throttling / if the sustained TPD limit is increased
Wouldn't it make sense for the i7 to boost higher in a similar power envelope due to it being binned or am I missing something??
Btw something similar happened with HP's ultrabook last year as well iirc (i5>i7).
4 core i7, what year is this? 2017?
It would be interesting to compare two laptops with i7 of the 11th generation, one with and the other without nvidia graphics card. Especially to see the performance in video encoding.
I wonder whether this is also why Intel decided to not release the i5 version of the new NUC 11 Enthusiast (Phantom Canyon), which comes with an RTX 2060.
Congratulations Great Comparisons.
isnt possible to modify in the bios the dtp?
I think this is due to a bad design decision from razer, they could have allowed more power for the i7 chip to use its power
Question, what is your Maya test?
MINDBLOWING ! Great job Sir.
Where can I get the Pikachu wallpaper from?
Can you link the wallpapers links?!
Just a little suggestion, the graphs were all over the place. Stick to one spot for each processor, the graphs just kep shifting with 1165 on top (Legends) on one and 1135 on the other which felt annoying.
It will be far easier to judge which one is faster
Please i just subscribed to your channel please help me which should I choose for gaming between hp 15 core i5 8250u 1.60-1.80ghz 8gbram or HP pavilion 15 core i5 7200u 12gb ram 2.5ghz - 2.7
Please... give me the links to download that PIKACHUUUU wallpaper
Should I get an i7 with 16 gb ram or i5 with 12 gb rams both are 11th generation... ima computer science student
Does this also apply to 10th-gen i5 vs i7?
The Thumbnail is so Great. As Always
gimme those wallpaper link?😂, btw good video 😁👍
Idk why I care to understand all these specific details but I'm 20 videos in and still interested
Thanks for this material
Very very informative
How do they compare?
Ryzen 5 4500U vs Ryzen 5 5500U vs i5 1135G4 vs i7 1165G7.
I guess total power to each is limited because of thermal constraints in laptops/notebooks and so both end up pretty much the same in terms of performance terms, much like having a 60mph speed limiter on a 3 litre twin turbo and a 1.6 litre normally aspirated engine, they both do 60mph. The efficient thermal design of the laptop is likely to be the limiting factor.
Is this an issue limited only to the Razer Book 13? 20W seems like a very low power limit that other laptops might not have. In that case, wouldn't the i7 outperform the i5 like it's supposed to? This really feels more like Razer messing up with their power limit than Intel with their processors.
Can you please do a comparison for 12th gen i5 and i7 chips?
8:04 So basically, the i7 throttled because of the limited Wattage. Give the i7 model about twice the Wattage (i.e 40W), and it could be a completely different story altogether.
that Pikachu wallpaper, i need it , For reasons people will understand :D
I really don't
I want it as well
For Research purposes?
I need it too :((
Does anyone have a link for the wallpaper 😇
Missed opportunity to have squirtle as the wallpaper on the other one
Coming from a core 2 duo, both of these would be a massive upgrade
Good day sir. Hopefully, you mention that.
I want to suggest reviewing a Lenovo IdeaPad Slim 5 Pro 16"
Specs:
AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX
RTX3050
16" WQXGA 120Hz, 100%sRGB..
Quite interesting that nanometer units as being a part of the metric system are being used in the left countries that still use the Imperial System, which sucks.
Just like BMW 5 and 7. BMW 5 spend less fuel and it is easy to park, right
very insightful comparison, would be awesome to do the same comparison, showing 10th, 11th, and 12th Gen. Intel mobile laptop CPUs, with graphics, against AMD's 5000 and 6800 series setup
Soo I guess it's time to return my Razer Book and find something else again. I feel like the power limit is because razer wanted the intel evo branding. They clearly have more headroom to push the CPU but they need to stay within a certain spec for the EVO designation. I could be totally wrong. Also the big price and weight different on the laptops isn't just the processor and ram but the touch screen on the i7 version.
The i7 razer book has a touch screen. Other reviews said the extra weight is due to hardware for that.
This was the video I didn't know I needed
My current laptop is an i5 (Lenovo T series) and it's fine for what I use it for. And apparently so is the new generation as well. I would definitely pocket that $400 if I was buying one of these and go with the i5. I don't do any real work on my laptop anyway, its just general use. Crazy amount more for very specific use advantages only.. Thanks for sharing!
This is such a fantastic video!