Yes, I Have a DWe Kit
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Taking a first look at DW's new electronic drum offering - the DWe wireless electronic/acoustic convertible drum kit.
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They have given the kit to the right guy to test it out. You have great knowledge of electronic kits Luke 😎 Great video.
Thank you 🙏
Yes, also Justin did a fantastic job! (65 Drums)
I want to know how quiet it is when it's not amplified.
Same.
Nobody wants to show that
Same here
This will be in the full review.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop Thankyou!
It will be interesting how this tech eventually makes its way down to a mid range or lower kits. 10k is a ton for a kit but this is pretty sick. I’d love to see a bop size kit and a 13 inch snare.
They start at 4.5k according to Sweetwater.
I think the 10k is all inclusive - ie hardware.
@@DisjointedConversations Yeah, seems so.
indeed! this is the trend setter and tech pusher right now. i thi nk in 10years wired ekits will be gone.
I hope they release "PDP" budget versions of these kits. But Roland, as they now own DW, probably don't want them to compete with their own e-kits, so probably not. I hope these won't all cost 10K, that is just ridiculous.
I wouldn’t be so sure though. Roland has a bunch of tiers of product. I think the DW launch here is almost more a proof of concept than anything else. This is obviously going to be even more prohibitive in cost than the TD50 or anything else has been thus far, but the technology they had to come up with to make this all possible is literally next level. I think we will see trickle down tech from this point. The interest is palpable from everywhere I’ve seen
They start at 4.5k according to Sweetwater.
that's a 4pc shell pack@@Trottelheimer
@@CB-yv3ec Ah, yes, it is.
Good luck w all that. 🙄
will be curious to see the longevity of these new DWe kits. Look amazing and by far the best e-kit out there. Its truly insane how far e drums have come. Love to see it!
I'm more excited about the VST than the drums! I have Perfect Drums already and I'm very, very excited to start using these new sounds.
I hope you enjoy it!
post an update after you get the software friend! im about to jump in as well. gotta payoff some cymbals first!
@@bruceperkins2921 Ah my man I have bad news for you. It's not good. The sounds are good but the program is pretty crappy. I did a post on Reddit about it but I may actually just do a YT video myself.
@@flanger001 Send me a link to your Reddit post?
@@3rdGen-MediaOr better yet post it here
Okay, so the playing in the beginning is played arguably the best sounding electronic drum set I’ve ever heard. 😮
My goodness, I thought it was an E Kit but when I heard the sound, I thought it was real, but it is the MOST realistic E Kit I’ve ever seen, excellent video!, 👍🏾
4th time checking your channel today!! Finally a video on this kit:
1) I’d like to hear what the set sounds like from the perspective of the people in the house. In other words my wife has no issues with the TD50 but will she hate this.
2) I’d like to see a comparison to the TD50 (or other Roland modules). How much flexibility do I have to make changes? Can I create custom kits? Can I pick individual cymbals from the module or are you limited to a cymbal pack?
3) will you be able to make and sell custom kits like you do today for the Roland modules
4) can I use my TD50 pads and module to expand this kit? For example if I wanted to use my Roland pads as Rototoms or other percussion instruments can I do that?
Thanks. Love the channel!!
1) I have tried them. They are a bit louder than a TD50 kit, especially the cymbals.
2) It is not a module. It's software with lots of flexibility to create kits.
3) Check out the retailers. They list individual drums for sale.
4) No. The DWe wireless components exclusively work with the trigger module. However, you can merge MIDI devices into the software using your computer.
I know some people are mad about these drums, which is sort of justified but man do they sound amazing.
Welcome to the internet. We're mad about all of it.
I'm curious to know if the bass drum trigger can distinguish between laying off, and burying the beater. It would be a shame if every other instrument gets a more or less full range of expression, but the poor bass drum only gets to thump away with one sound.
That's a great question! +1
$11k is fuckin nuts. $9k maybe I'd think about it but thats ridiculous
Absolutely agreed.
I honestly would like to see a video on how the dwe software works with a drum module and how accurate it is , thanks awesome video
This is the next big step in e drums and everyone knows it, the only question is, when other manufacturers will catch up so the tech will go down to the middle line drums.
Would’ve been nice if you played without software. Want to hear how loud the kit is alone.
This will make it into the review!
@@TheeDrumWorkshopBut that’s many moons away 😩. Any initial thoughts?
This hardware paired with a good dialed Strata module could be really a killer drum
I saw one of these in person today, and I can’t believe that this actually exists.
This should not be possible, but here it is!
That blended kit sounds perfect for any style man! And that 50th anniversary kit is a fantastic rock kit
Thats a Game changer in the E drum world... WOW !
It's very ambitious and pulls together a lot of really interesting ideas and technology!
Hello, Can you make a video showing how the DWe kit connects to a Roland TD-50X module? I want to know if I can use my TD-50X module as a interface with 8 direct outputs…..Thanks!!!
I like everything except for the hi hat. Can you tell us if the hi hat is capable of moving more like the other cymbals with realistic movement? Also, when you open and close the hi hats while you’re playing it sounds fake (it just nuts the sound completely with no ambience following). Like I said before, if the hi hats aren’t moving naturally, that would totally annoy me to no end. I don’t how they would make a realistic kit with all pieces sounding and feeling great but then have a mediocre hi hat. That wouldn’t make any sense. Is that because you have them tightened that way…..hopefully you see this comment and respond to it. I would really appreciate it, thanks for your review, talent, and time to show us.
I agree!! I played these at a local drum store and the high hat can not be loosened. It makes no sense to me. The set itself is awesome but the cymbals suck!
I'd love for you to talk about the relative merits of upgrading from various kits, like just a rough estimate of which kits would have a really noticable improvement in the way it plays. I have TD-50, want this, but it's a lot of money.
I'm the same. But I'm a Tama man but the wireless etc seems to be the way to go. The next couple of years are going to be very very interesting. I'd be more interested in knowing if dw will expand the software anymore with more libraries etc
I loved all of it except the 12" hi-hat sound that kept coming up. 🤣 Beautiful kit and beautiful drumming! Thank you.
I honestly thought when you were first playing at the front end of the video that you had just put Myar heads on them. No one would know these were electronic except for the cymbals. Those look pretty good too. This is as good as it gets for electronics at this point.
I've heard this kit in other videos... but man you make it sound so real
Exciting and i love the wireless tech but price out of reach for the 99.9%. Buying the trigger system by itself would be more financially feasible for most
I have a 1978 custom ordered set of Tama Imperialstars back when they were 9 ply mahogany that I would love to be able to add these triggers, software and cymbals to
Hey thanks Luke !!!
Question:
What do you think is more responsive, with more dynamics ?
The Roland digital snare, hi-hat and ride, or the DW ones ?
Basically...lol
Did DW take away the title from the Roland digital 3 ?
Like which has a better rim shot on the snare, etc and more positional sensing on the hi hat and ride ?
Can you get all the intricacies with metal hi hats as you can on the Roland digital 14 hi-hats ?
I'm in the middle of Pennsylvania, so there's not many music stores with edrums to try out.
I never played a metal e-cymbal so I don't know how they react to each hit...
Great review as always !!!!!
Nice playin !!!!!!
Thanks !
Have a great day !!!
😁👍
Okay. So, as usual…DW KILLS IT!! Dude. So freaking amazing. Absolutely amazing. I’m down for spending $10,000 for this kit. Always an admirer of DW but, they are not my fave brand (Yamaha), however, they just became my fave e-drum brand. Great vid, bro!
I can't believe this electronic 🙀that's a crazy jump in the world of electronics drums.
Jesus Christ, I just stopped caring about the drums and just wanted to hear you play more and more... respect, man
Thank you 🙏
Excellent! First of all, some really great playing along with an excellent review and run down on both the drums and software. You answered all of my questions regarding the ability to connect other equipment and software. I know this took a lot of time and effort and I greatly appreciate it. You have another subscriber and I look forward to your other videos. 🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁
I would also like to add that this concept of having an electronic kit wireless is a god-send and is something I've been contemplating for a very long time. The thought of eliminating all of the cables/wires from my electronic kit is a wish come true and was always a pain to setup on a gig. The option for either an e-kit or an acoustic kit is beyond what I was hoping for. We're getting two kits for the price of one and we all know that in the price it will include the cost for this new technology, I don't know how people can complain about the price when Roland and DW have their kits costing the same if not more, and you only get one kit. Worth every penny if you ask me.
I have only one concern and question;As for using my Roland TD-50, I'm sure that Roland will add the setup trigger type for these triggers on all of their drum modules. Do you know if they plan of releasing an update/firmware for adding this trigger type?
Love everything about this video - your playing - your explaining - you have such a helpful approach.
Thank you 🙏
Fantastic vid Luke. It’s a beautiful looking kit for sure and any concerns about latency appear unfounded. Sounds amazing. Looking forward to the full review vid.
Can you do a rim shot like we do in reggae with a metal snare so we can hear how it handles that:?
Awesome , my next kit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let's see if it really is the next big step. Thank you for the video. Here are my questions:
Is latency still an issue?
If so, what does it depend on and are there any measured values?
Can I record MIDI and audio on the computer via USB (as with some Roland modules)?
Does it have USB to MIDI?
Does it work very well with EZ & Superior Drummer?
Are the two outputs balanced audio?
Does the snare also have the "sidestick sensor technology with hand detection" like the Roland digital snare?
Can I load my own multisamples (not just one shots) into the software and play them?
Thanks a lot!
Wow!
Goddammed this looks like the best e-kit ever made! What do you think?
I think the downside of this kit is that it is very loud especially the cymbal noise.
this is the first acoustic/electonic kit ive sen that actually made me think for a sec whether I would ever move from my kit to something else....lol...fleeting thought but a thought nonetheless.
Great video! Just ordered the Pearl White kit - can’t wait for it to arrive at the end of the month!
Great video man!!! Thanks so much for sharing the playing! That is what E drummers like to see and hear!
What I want to know is the latency in milliseconds. I don't buy that there is no latency to speak of when you're transmitting data wirelessly. If the latency is more than 5ms, I might not get a set. If it's less, I might consider it
I definitely don't have the means (or motivation) to do any proper in-depth testing of the wireless/trigger latency. What I can say from using the kit however is that there's no perceptible difference between triggering a VST from the DWe and using another fast drum module like the TD-50X, so it's at least as fast.
No matter what connection method is used, they've all got some processing to do before sending the MIDI out (scan time etc), then of course there's the latency from your computer/interface which is present to some degree no matter what you use too.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop that's good to hear. I know it was never going to be no latency. I just don't want the latency to affect the latency already present on my current set up. Thanks for the response!
Wonderful looking and sumptuous sounding kit.
The module is really nicely designed as well.
Can't wait to see yoir full review, Luke. Thank you for this teaser.
Cheers from Oz.
There is no module; it's an app. So you will need a computer.
@@droopydoc55 thank you. Yes. I should have referred to the software rather than the module being nicely designed.
@@pedrofrom1984 Technically
Technically speaking it is not just a computer that processes everything. The MIDI(?) bursts from the cymbals, snare and toms is received by the DWe Drumlink Hub, that connects to the computer by USB cable.
So happy for you! Lol
Beautiful sounding tones on the toms etc
Love the wireless , no cables 👏👏👏👏🤘🤘
Grt vid. Thank u. They sound insane. Floor tom is a beast. 👌
This made me turn on all notifications for this channel! Can't wait for the review!
Thank you 🙏
Sounds leaps and bounds beyond what a Roland kit sounds like
A beautiful kit as with most DW kits. But so so expensive and not even a hardware model included. Saying that, I own a flagship Roland TD-50k2 and I never use the TD-50x module now as I use Superior Drummer 3 and its SDXs, Because you just can not beat that and its sounds. Also, how loud is this in the room? resonance heads on the toms and the Kick and the metal cymbals can't be very silent that's for sure. noise production from the kit is the main reason for me to get an edit in the first place.
Saw the Sweetwater video pop up as I was going to bed last night, and was hoping they sent you one too. Nice!
As I understand, this is what’s required for a minimum DWe setup:
- DW DWe 4-piece Shell Pack (white): 4,499 USD
- DW DWe 3-piece Electronic Cymbal Pack: 1,949 USD
Add:
- Drum Hardware and Accessories
- Capable Computer
- Computer Stand
- Audio Interface for live performance
No mention of Jazz kits or brushes
I already have my pre-order of two of these.
These are obviously beautifully crafted, and will be of the highest quality build (and seemingly, by the sound of it) in terms of the samples and triggering. Yet, it strikes me as a bit of a miss in that having a 'real' DW, top of the line acoustic kit as the shells for a kit that--let's face it--most people will not be swapping back and forth (what a pain) from acoustic to electric, seems like an unnecessary luxury. It strikes me that one could buy a nice looking shell acoustic shell pack and good triggers for a reasonable price, and have beautiful drums triggering this same software, with probably the same experience. It is great that DW will be offering a variety of onramps, such as purchasing the individual components, like cymbals separately. If they do start to offer trigger packs, wow, what a competitor they'll be. Thanks for the intro video!
Awesome! Are the cymbals chokable? And do the wireless systems in the wheels need any batteries or any other power supply? Thanks a lot.
What a freakin' monster, what a test
I may have missed this being answered in a previous video, but nobody seems to demonstrate the volume levels of the kit 'in the room', the very reason a lot of people want/need an e-kit.
I'll be including this in my full review, hopefully versus my other e-kit setup.
Thanks for this post awesome🎉🎉🎉
I can't wait to see you go in depth with these drums. The price point is insane but I might be willing to do it. I want to know more about the cymbals. Can you mute the ride like you can on digital Roland just by touching it?
Luke!!!!! LET’S GO. CANT WAIT TO WATCH
I'M WAITING IN ANTICIPATION!
Wow the sound is great!! The future is bright for eDrums 😀
And superb playing as well, mate!
So no internal sound module right? Directly midi out to the (various) softwares.
This kit is a stunner!
I guess they are too loud to be played in an apartment? Could please make a short video that would show how loud are these drums (in 'electronic' mode of course 🙂)?
How would you compare the hihat to the Roland's digital HH?
So excited for this and for the full review! If it's not on your list I'd love to add these suggestions!
1. more about the cymbals! What models and makes have they sampled? How do they respond to tip and shoulder of the stick on the edge, bow and bell? How do the sounds compare to other VSTs like GGD, SS etc.
2. Can you pick and choose each part like you can on other ekits? Almond snare with maple kick, this hi hat with that ride etc?
3. Does it sense when you play into the head and out the head? Even on the kick?
4. Can you use a bigger interface to send multiple out to front of house?
5. How does the tension of the head effect the response, feel, sound etc?
Sorry for all the questions but this sh*t is ground breaking!! Also, new to this channel and loving it so far and nice to hear someone in the UK talking about this kind of thing as well!
I'll make sure all of this makes it in! For 2 and 4 though -
2) Yeah, you can build kits out of any parts and the software can also load in multi-layered samples to build your own instruments
4) Yes, you can use any interface and there's a host of routing options for multiple outputs if you need them.
@@TheeDrumWorkshop ah awesome! Thank you!!
I'm sure it cost an arm and a leg but very cool also can you use the software with other pads like roland
If 10K is an arm or leg.
My body parts are worth more than that.
Is there an option to connect these pads to an existing module via cables if needed? Also they should have added physical inputs on the midi module so you can add third party pads. Anyone who buys this is locked in the DW wireless ecosystem. Any addition will cost a fortune.
I wish you would of demonstrated how it sounds without the triggered sounds. How loud are the cymbals when you hit them with sticks?
Can someone please clarify if these are DW Collectors series shells? A video of how they sound played as an acoustic kit would also be very helpful in deciding if this can be a kit that scratches the itch a top shelf acoustic and electric kit all in one.
Nice review as usual
Nice playing as usual
Aqui do Brasil, acompanhando você neste lançamento. Obrigado
Obrigado!
While it's a cool product as far as the technology and I'm happy to see some bold advancements, to me it seems like it's way too niche to be that successful. I feel like someone wanting a high end edrum kit is not going to pay that premium just because it is also a high end acoustic set, aside maybe from someone that was already about to jump on the VAD706, and someone wanting high end acoustic is not going to pay the premium just because it can be converted to edrum. So I really hope the tech trickles down in to more affordable options or even as going as far as offering it as an A to E conversion kit.
WOW, Awesome!
Just beautiful 🥁
After I pay 749 for the shells. How much more money would I need to complete this drum set?
How much of a step forward is this for Edrums. Can we expect this sort of tech to trickle down now that its been done. or will this remain unattainable for us plebs
The thing im waiting for is backwards compatibility as for me the hihat rubber feeling was always well bad and if this metal thing feels better i willconsider it if it can connect to a td27
I'll definitely be happy if they released the triggers seperately! 10K is a bit too much for me :D
Well, Toontrack SD3 is the king and will always be.
Can you take your own samples or samples from other software and load them in? Say if you wanted some percussion (cowbell or chimes) or electronic sounds to stick on a rim or aux pad?
Yes
"What do I need to get going?" A whole lotta money!!!
💵💵💵
Yes!
Nice I got to play one at the UK Drum Show (wonder if I’ll be on their promo video 😊)
Cool! What were your thoughts?
Great video as always Luke. My question I'd be looking for an answer to is: I use a 7pc VAD706 (kick, 3 toms, 2 floors, snare & 4 crashes/ride/hi hat). It's used live at shows, running all the outputs from the TD50X to our monitor rig, using a splitter box for our A&H rack desk & then FoH to take their own feed, allowing the engineer 8 outputs to control the Roland kit. We already knew that a MacBook would be required as a module isn't supplied, but 1) can you use a new iPad Pro instead of a laptop? 2) How easy and could you do a video, of replicating my scenario, for those that would potentially use this DWe to replace their Roland VAD kit in a live situation & the steps/equipment required to make this happen? My worry is, the pay off for the reduction in 'cable snake' is offset with the additional equipment you need to do what a VAD kit does. Final question, I'd like to really know your honest opinion on DWe vs VAD706. Thanks, Joe.
I’m in the same situation as you! I’m ready to purchase this kit…IF….the questions that you have already asked is answered. 8 outputs is a MUST for my situation!!!
Wow. This is impressive. Finally an electronic kit that I find acceptable. It’s incredibly expensive though, but still…
I just converted my kit and. now I find out that my favorite drum co. has a e kit.
“HAW-haaaaaaaw” … Yeah, ‘Murphy’ is a €#n+ …
The bells on the cymbals seems to be much more decoupled than others on the market. That probably kills a lot of ghost hits which plagues some company.
Just wondering how you would use this in a live sitaution, sending outs to the sound desk?? I use my TD50X module by asigning outs as needed so the sound guys have control..
Great demo btw, love the wireless tech and everything else.. Hopefully one day ;)
Have you got any idea who will be stocking them in the UK? Seems that they are being distributed by Roland UK, not the usual DW Chanels!
When is the full review vid coming out Luke?
Great demo. Curious if the bells on the cymbals are a bit small?
So wild to me that an 11k ekit doesn’t come with 14” hats and has exposed wiring under the head. For this kind of money NOTHING should feel less than high end.
The hats are 14 inch? But I agree with the general idea, of course!
I just want the triggers 😬🤘
Seems like the high hats don’t play as well as Roland’s digital hat’s hopefully they can tighten up the hats it’s always a soar spot , seems like the greatest strengths are its versa triggering style wireless tech and the ability for a smooth throw off on the snare but that high hat sample is coming through weird
Great video, thank you!
My question: I’ve seen that there are zones for the tom part, the rim, and in between but would you say that one would be able to do timbale -like stuff on the toms? I guess, basically, are there more than three trigger possibilities on the toms?
Hi Luke! Would you be comfortable giving us your opinion on which plugins sound better, if the in-house DW or something like Superior 3 or Slater Drums? And how easy is it to multi-ouptut to a DAW? Thanks! :)
I just realized something… The eDrum Workshop has a Drum Workshop e kit! 🤣
Great video Luke!
Can you do a comparison between DWe sounds vs Superior Drummer 3?
Great Demo and information. What provisions are provided to use the set in a live venue, ie. sending the signals to the main stage sound system??
Thanks in advance.
looks like you could you mount their triggers in any drums.
hallo Sir I think the price is crazy and I think that should lower the price Love from Mik Roy from Denmark ❤❤❤