This is the best 250R content by far on CZcams! If it wasn't for both of you it wouldn't have gotten done. Kudos to both of you 👏💯💨💨 Stay on your grind .
Bloopers at the end were by far the best part!!! ...Besides watching it carry the front tires off the line and in second gear beautifully ! great video. great pair of guys! keep it coming!!
Thank you for watching the 250R build series with Dave and I! Chapters and tool/products are below 🤘 Video 1 - Center Cases and Transmission - czcams.com/video/ASpYpSJ7X6A/video.html Video 2 - Clutch and Stator Side - czcams.com/video/Bx97SovoivY/video.html Video of This Motor Running - czcams.com/video/ctupjItBnHM/video.html Chapters 0:00 - Intro 0:15 - Piston Install 1:57 - Cylinder and Spacer Plate Install 5:28 - Head Install and Squish Explanation 8:34 - Exhaust Flange Install 9:00 - Reeds, Spacer, and Intake Install 14:03 - Finished Motor 15:03 - Showcase and Engine Running 15:55 - Bloopers Tools and Parts in This Video Crank puller/Installer - bit.ly/3kBXDCr Case Splitter - bit.ly/3dNh3D4 Engine Stand - bit.ly/2Tg3J1T Clutch holding tool - amzn.to/2O6WSFh T-Handle Hex Wrenches - bit.ly/2MEEsvm Red Loctite - bit.ly/3szbpIF Rekluse Clutch - rekluse.com/product/torqdrive-clutch-pack/ Rekluse Oil - bit.ly/2NGF5oK Hinson Basket - bit.ly/2NDMQM9
@@iheartwheelies I don’t know how to get ahold of Dave but if you go the LED performance you talk to Arlen who he talks about in the video said he’s been doing it longer than him he answers all the questions you need to know and makes a lot of replacement parts in-house that are obsolete
Like I said before I'm a 1985 honda 250r atc rider ( 3 wheeler) as you can see from my pic. I really like your videos and Mike's videos. I've been riding 250r 3 wheelers since the 82. And still always learning more from what I consider experts. I'm good but there's always something to learn.
I hung at Dave's MPracing garage back in like 2000 when he was still in Oregon. I've looked all over for MPracing recently and recently accidentally stumbled across a guy who had a 250r recently built by him so here I am watching
Deff would be a sweet vid series from different builders. But you would have to have him use his own motor lol 😆 Dave is the man! I'm a banshee guy now but I started as an R guy and can aprefiate the info and knowledge! I wish someone would do an in depth video on banshee clutch rod length and mods and figuring out the correct throw if you have worn down clutch rod a little etc. Exactly what he did there but for the shee. That was probably my favorite part of this series actually!!!
I'm blanking right now but I think the banshee used a similar push rod system and can be corrected the same way; I will re-visit this as I am starting the tear down on my 421 this week!
Sabo brings the best videos to help us shade trees out. I feel confident to do my first R build this year. I appreciate wha he brings to this hobby and sport
I have a feeling Arlan would love it. I talked to him yesterday and he loves talking about 2-strokes. Might be a long drive for Mike to get out here to the west coast but at least he could make it out to the Oregon sand dunes.
Love your videos man first atv I ever rode was my dad's 86 250r in 1987 so your videos really give me a great feeling and remind me of a simpler time. Thank you.
Holy batman did Dave just say you don't have to torque your cylinder base and small air leaks won't explode your motor I been trying to tell people that for years great job guys
A cornucopia of information! Thanks for sharing Dave's knowledge. I am building an '82 Suzuki RM 250Z engine and have a question about where to put the piston ring end gap. It is a single ring and wonder if I should line it up with a solid portion of the cylinder that misses the ports. Thanks in advance for any help. Keep up the awesome videos Sabo. Cheers!
Hey Mike,I’m a big fan of your channel. I think it would be awesome if you could convince Arlen to do a engine build because I would take you out to ride the Oregon dunes. I have a couple 250rs You wouldn’t even have to bring yours. You fly to Portland and we can go riding
Dave Moore the guys that design those bigger bore cylinders are generally after more cc displacement and horse power, they figure out how to get to the bolts and nuts on after finding it! Usually its not assembly friendly! 😆
Awesome video! Had to go watch the other 2. Please do video on the before/after dyno #s. So who's porting did u end up with for your cylinder? I seen u were having issues but kinda lost track because I'm working so much.
I still remember the day I met Dave Moor. It was late 1990 something and we raced out on the flats of Sand Lake Oregon. He was pissed because his MP Racing built TRX couldn’t out run my no name built ATC. After that I had him build me a alcohol 262. That fucker flat ripped! I could take out 420 Banshees with no problems. That guy can also build a fast ATC 350x. I may have to look him up and see if he want to work on an RZR now.
Beings I just found the videos on 12/26/2023 a few questions. Did you replace the 2nd driven gear? I had an 88 TRX250R I raced motocross and was racing at Washougal and blew the 2nd driven gear out the left case half. I rebuilt it myself had no problems after rebuild. I was ported, piped, head mod, bigger carb, after market reeds. Also took it to Winchester Bay, and Florence. Had no problems climbing any of the dunes.
So every motor responds different. My daughters 330 hated the vf2 and loved the radvalve. It's a reaction to the pipe and porting, the draw, the carb..several things determine how it all reacts
I've enjoyed this serie of vids. I would like to know if there's some rule behind the spacer increasing o decreasing power output. Is he speaking of cilinder admission or both cilinder and cranckcase admision?
Hey Mike, just reaching out to see if you have an answer I’m trying to get my 250r going and it’s got spark, compression, and fuel. But it’s spitting fuel out of the exhaust flange and I’m pretty sure that’s not normal haha any ideas on what I need to look at?
Hey MIKE got a question or 2 ive been looking into a 330 kit or 350 kit for my 86 trx. what needs to be done is there any kits pre honed or any kits that are just bolt on I do not know you have a bunch of knowledge about this stuff figured ide ask you.
Yo Mike need some help figuring out what pipe to use on my ltz rm250 swap do I get it cut and customized or should I cut the inner frame bars that hold the old oil tank. Trying to get this thing done. My 450r ready for a race with that kfx 🤟🏻😎😅
I would recommend finding a pipe builder that's willing to take on the project; you could call LED and see if they can help or if they can refer you to someone
Heck yeah, let’s get Arlan next! 👍 Bloopers were great, I could hang out with Dave all day. 😆🤘
This is the best 250R content by far on CZcams! If it wasn't for both of you it wouldn't have gotten done. Kudos to both of you 👏💯💨💨 Stay on your grind .
Every vid gets me more pumped up knowing the wizard is building my 270R ,Yo playboy Dave dont forget to sign my engine....this is gonna be siiiicckk!
Bloopers at the end were by far the best part!!! ...Besides watching it carry the front tires off the line and in second gear beautifully ! great video. great pair of guys! keep it coming!!
It’s a joy watching someone who is a master at their chosen craft perform that job perfectly.
Thank you for watching the 250R build series with Dave and I! Chapters and tool/products are below 🤘
Video 1 - Center Cases and Transmission - czcams.com/video/ASpYpSJ7X6A/video.html
Video 2 - Clutch and Stator Side - czcams.com/video/Bx97SovoivY/video.html
Video of This Motor Running - czcams.com/video/ctupjItBnHM/video.html
Chapters
0:00 - Intro
0:15 - Piston Install
1:57 - Cylinder and Spacer Plate Install
5:28 - Head Install and Squish Explanation
8:34 - Exhaust Flange Install
9:00 - Reeds, Spacer, and Intake Install
14:03 - Finished Motor
15:03 - Showcase and Engine Running
15:55 - Bloopers
Tools and Parts in This Video
Crank puller/Installer - bit.ly/3kBXDCr
Case Splitter - bit.ly/3dNh3D4
Engine Stand - bit.ly/2Tg3J1T
Clutch holding tool - amzn.to/2O6WSFh
T-Handle Hex Wrenches - bit.ly/2MEEsvm
Red Loctite - bit.ly/3szbpIF
Rekluse Clutch - rekluse.com/product/torqdrive-clutch-pack/
Rekluse Oil - bit.ly/2NGF5oK
Hinson Basket - bit.ly/2NDMQM9
My yamaha blaster is 270cc
But the piston is not straight from the top like this
Hello. What did you do with your hpi ignition.
Where did you get those collars from
How does one get ahold of Dave
@@iheartwheelies I don’t know how to get ahold of Dave but if you go the LED performance you talk to Arlen who he talks about in the video said he’s been doing it longer than him he answers all the questions you need to know and makes a lot of replacement parts in-house that are obsolete
That is probably the most informative information I have ever seen on CZcams on the 250R. Awsome 👍
You're a lucky guy having Dave build your motor for ya, legend for sure
Dave is a freaking legend 🤘🏻. So glad you got to go hangout with him. Awesome videos Mike ! Keep up the great work man 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I would love to see a mike and Arland collaboration!!!! Loved learning from this series!
Mike , you taught Dave Moore how to do something ..... putting that clip in . 🤟🤟
That was a phenomenal series hope to see some more hands on stuff like this to learn from
Like I said before I'm a 1985 honda 250r atc rider ( 3 wheeler) as you can see from my pic. I really like your videos and Mike's videos. I've been riding 250r 3 wheelers since the 82. And still always learning more from what I consider experts. I'm good but there's always something to learn.
5:15 Dave says one of the truest things ever said!!! Thanks for the education guys!
I wanna see Arlan too he seems like he would be a funny guy after talking to him on phone. Might have to bleep a lot tho haha
Lmao, I would anticipate a lot of bleeping as well
Man this guy knows his shit. Don't take his advice as an option or opinion, but as legit and solid experience
I hung at Dave's MPracing garage back in like 2000 when he was still in Oregon. I've looked all over for MPracing recently and recently accidentally stumbled across a guy who had a 250r recently built by him so here I am watching
Deff would be a sweet vid series from different builders. But you would have to have him use his own motor lol 😆 Dave is the man! I'm a banshee guy now but I started as an R guy and can aprefiate the info and knowledge! I wish someone would do an in depth video on banshee clutch rod length and mods and figuring out the correct throw if you have worn down clutch rod a little etc. Exactly what he did there but for the shee. That was probably my favorite part of this series actually!!!
I'm blanking right now but I think the banshee used a similar push rod system and can be corrected the same way; I will re-visit this as I am starting the tear down on my 421 this week!
Need to do a bloopers with Dave throwing tools....and yes Mike Sabo should travel to Arlen shop. Keep it up.
I was threatened with my life for recording stuff like
Dude there were definitely wrench throwing moments that week... lol
I really enjoyed this series.
Glad you liked it man!
Sabo brings the best videos to help us shade trees out. I feel confident to do my first R build this year. I appreciate wha he brings to this hobby and sport
Definitely be cool to see Arlan do a video and bubba maybe too
The bloopers made it 10x better great either way
That motor is going to be awesome. I wish I had the dough to have Dave do a 310 or 330 back in the day.
bro loving the videos this has been one of the best rebuild series on a 250r in a bit
Let’s go, these videos are awesome, love watching your banshee and trx250r videos
It wasnt a waste of my time Dave. Great guy. Thanks for bringing us this Mike!
This dude is awesome.
Best 30 minutes of my life!!!
I have a feeling Arlan would love it. I talked to him yesterday and he loves talking about 2-strokes. Might be a long drive for Mike to get out here to the west coast but at least he could make it out to the Oregon sand dunes.
I agree man; it's looking like it's going to happen
❤great video ,,,,I really enjoyed hearing the TALK ABOUT HOW AND WHAT WHILE HES BUILDING THE MOTOR .LOTS OF GOOD TIPS..THANKS U TWO
Great video. Love the content. Will be helpful in the future when i move on to non oem type builds.
Not a single dislike so far. Great job Mike!
The outakes cracked me up 🤣🤣
lol
It would be awesome to see arlan and Mike build an engine
Nice work I wish I had this guy's knowledge on the 250r..you should do a video on putting the hole bottom end together . Nice work guys
Sabo u are killing it with these type of videos thanks bro
Awesome video Mike and Dave! Super cool to see this stuff.
Awesome video Mike! Appreciate all your hard work! You too Dave
Omg.. the bloopers were amazing. Great video series and I would love to see more with m Arlen and others.
Glad you enjoyed!
Man this guy knows his stuff!
Love your videos man first atv I ever rode was my dad's 86 250r in 1987 so your videos really give me a great feeling and remind me of a simpler time. Thank you.
This series was awesome, thanks fellas, much appreciated the learning session.
Holy batman did Dave just say you don't have to torque your cylinder base and small air leaks won't explode your motor I been trying to tell people that for years great job guys
3 awesome videos!! Great content!!👍
Glad you like them!
One badass quad
Thank you Amon Shrewsbury!
A cornucopia of information! Thanks for sharing Dave's knowledge. I am building an '82 Suzuki RM 250Z engine and have a question about where to put the piston ring end gap. It is a single ring and wonder if I should line it up with a solid portion of the cylinder that misses the ports. Thanks in advance for any help. Keep up the awesome videos Sabo. Cheers!
Ready to hear this thing run
czcams.com/video/ctupjItBnHM/video.html
I Scored on a 86 trx250r almost all original. Can not wait to start on the build..
Always like these types of videos
I VOTE for next interview to be with- Arlan Lehman @ LED performance engines
Great series Michael, need all of the bloopers.
Hey Mike,I’m a big fan of your channel. I think it would be awesome if you could convince Arlen to do a engine build because I would take you out to ride the Oregon dunes. I have a couple 250rs You wouldn’t even have to bring yours. You fly to Portland and we can go riding
This is an excellent series and service to all.
Great job ...love the info..
Love the little blooper reel!!
*your yz125 watching you fix the 250r for the like the 100th time* : _this guy hasn't even tried putting me back together_
Awesome work brother 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
Rad build!
Yea man dave knows his shit fer sure great job 🤟
Sweet video man Dave seems like a kick ass guy. Great work Mike
Are right Mike and dave need to do a build off that would fun to watch lol
Oh man, I would get spanked lol
@@MichaelSabo it would fun to watch tho dave Moore knows his shit and I enjoy watching him build that motor
I got one of those too a calibrated elbow
Do a banshee build with him
Awesome. After the 400ex series you need to take that motor out and go through it with him. Have some fast reliable fun machines.
Dave Moore the guys that design those bigger bore cylinders are generally after more
cc displacement and horse power, they figure out how to get to the bolts and nuts on after finding it! Usually its not assembly friendly! 😆
Your killing me here lol.
Awesome video! Had to go watch the other 2. Please do video on the before/after dyno #s. So who's porting did u end up with for your cylinder? I seen u were having issues but kinda lost track because I'm working so much.
Love the videos bro
I love Dave moore show use how 2 easy build motor in went more like is the best dave Moore am work on a 1991 XR250L dirt bike
Dave definitely makes it looks easys!
Right on brother... keep up the great work!!!
Sabo world tour keeping the 250r alive!
Damn good videos 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I still remember the day I met Dave Moor. It was late 1990 something and we raced out on the flats of Sand Lake Oregon. He was pissed because his MP Racing built TRX couldn’t out run my no name built ATC. After that I had him build me a alcohol 262. That fucker flat ripped! I could take out 420 Banshees with no problems. That guy can also build a fast ATC 350x. I may have to look him up and see if he want to work on an RZR now.
Let’s see it
Beings I just found the videos on 12/26/2023 a few questions. Did you replace the 2nd driven gear?
I had an 88 TRX250R I raced motocross and was racing at Washougal and blew the 2nd driven gear out the left case half.
I rebuilt it myself had no problems after rebuild. I was ported, piped, head mod, bigger carb, after market reeds.
Also took it to Winchester Bay, and Florence. Had no problems climbing any of the dunes.
What a awesome video love it .dave is so cool oh yeah you too mike lol.👍✌
Wish u would have talked about why and how u blocked off power valve. But another good video.
I agree. Was really looking forward to that and why he chose the vforce 2’s over the esr reeds or any reeds
So every motor responds different. My daughters 330 hated the vf2 and loved the radvalve. It's a reaction to the pipe and porting, the draw, the carb..several things determine how it all reacts
Nice video
Yes! Go film with Arlen and check out the dunes out here!!
I've enjoyed this serie of vids. I would like to know if there's some rule behind the spacer increasing o decreasing power output. Is he speaking of cilinder admission or both cilinder and cranckcase admision?
Hell ya arlan on deck.
I loved these videos....Does Dave Moore have a Channel?
Yes - czcams.com/users/davemooreracing
Dig the off camara Dave better then the correct Dave.
Just picked up a 370R. And im in need of that billet intake. Any pointers on where to get one ?
Not everything is 100% but we are lmfao I love it that is a t shirt
Bro, that's a great idea haha
love that dude his full of laughs lol
we never got those dyno sheets..I wana see the difference vs pv and npv
So he didn't need to use any base gasket sealer on either of the 2 base gaskets?
Hey Mike, just reaching out to see if you have an answer I’m trying to get my 250r going and it’s got spark, compression, and fuel. But it’s spitting fuel out of the exhaust flange and I’m pretty sure that’s not normal haha any ideas on what I need to look at?
Hey MIKE got a question or 2 ive been looking into a 330 kit or 350 kit for my 86 trx. what needs to be done is there any kits pre honed or any kits that are just bolt on I do not know you have a bunch of knowledge about this stuff figured ide ask you.
I would love to get a block off for my pv were did u get it
So we’re you having problems with your crank and stuff?
Yo Mike need some help figuring out what pipe to use on my ltz rm250 swap do I get it cut and customized or should I cut the inner frame bars that hold the old oil tank. Trying to get this thing done. My 450r ready for a race with that kfx 🤟🏻😎😅
I would recommend finding a pipe builder that's willing to take on the project; you could call LED and see if they can help or if they can refer you to someone
@@MichaelSabo quick update lol I used a yz250 pipe right side mounted fit perfect.. but thanks bro appreciate it 💯
Come build mine for me !!
Where to get the stainless head nuts?
Waiting on the Arlin video like 🙇
Why did you delete the power valve??
It made more power over the entire power curve without it; in my opinion it's a faulty design.
Can you please give me the web site to purchase that new Sonny intake manifold?
You need to contact him via his Facebook. Fair warning, mine did not fit when going into the frame and I ended up using a UPP boot instead.
Where can you buy these engine stands ?
Is it important to check the squish if I'm building with a stock cylinder and planning to run pump gas?
If its still 100% OEM( meaning all the parts your using are OEM and all built to work together) then the answer is no. You will be fine.
Dave burning all the keyboard warriors before they even post their rage comment hahah this is gold
Lmao