Jim Al-Khalili: The Forgotten Legacy of Arabic Science
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- The Forgotten Legacy of Arabic Science, 22 October, Manchester.
British Humanist Association Holyoake Lecture 2013 presented by theoretical physicist and president of the British Humanist Association, Professor Jim Al-Khalili.
Jim Al-Khalili is a treasure. It's interesting to hear him as he was ten years ago. Fortunately he's grown in confidence and hence smoothness since then.
Good man!
03:00 Professor Jim Al-Khalili starts
04:57 Why he chose term as Arabic science
09:16 Explains reason behind title of the book.
12:16 About his Iraqi background
15:45 "Abbasid empire stretched upto India? " I honestly had no idea about this.
16:17 al mamun
37:37 Ibn al-Haytham
40:40 Book of optics.
47:29 Al Baruni. Professor regards him as da Vinci of medieval world
What a fascinating insight into then Arabic scientists. Professor Al-Khalili is one of the most engaging science communicators we have today.
He’s really great
I wondered why he was so apologetic about presenting facts until I read the comments and heard the critiques from the other professors. Don't ever apologize for being right. Let the people who have a problem with it deal with it.
I think it's a good thing to give credits to every individual / group / society that contributed to our common knowledge of the world today. Independant of the religion or absence of religion humanity gathered this knowledge. Great lecture !
Arabic scientist mentioned without including the Ibn Sina, Imam Jafar.
It's just like a intro
Great Lecture
Perfectly balanced and impartial lecture - superb.
great lecture :)
I wonder if Jim has any time to give this topic another go with the current attention span most people have, meaning 10-15 minutes per video. Dividing it by subjects, and then tying it into modern/contemporary understandings would be wonderful. Arabian Algebra leading to European Calculus. Persian numerical system prior to that making it's way out to India and back. NGL, this guy is my Neil Degrasse Tyson. MAH SCIENCE KING!
Lovely lecture
fantastic thank You mr. Professor if not You I will never knew 😊
Brilliant lecture. Al-Khalili really is an engaging educator. Bit weird the guy who gave the intro just sat there all the way through, but hey ho.
What I wonder is why more history classes don't include scientific discoveries as part of their curricula. It could be argued that algebra is way more important than a particular war, or distinguishing between the accomplishments of kings.
A stadion is generally considered as having been about 600 Greek paces or 625 Roman paces.
One can imagine the intrest of Arabs particularly and muslims generally in their relation with their scientific past by the viewers of this video. .
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Paul Valéry (from his essay La Crise de l'esprit published by Gallimard in Variétés I) wrote:
"Nous autres civilisations, nous savons maintenant que nous sommes mortelles."
(We civilizations now know that we are mortal.)
Actually "chemistry" comes _through_ not _from_ Arabic, from the Greek χυμεία (mixed liquids), from χυμός (sap, juice).
Why let questioners give a lecture that we can't quite hear?
I recall some far-right trolls being trolled by an individual who told them that Arabic was being taught in all our schools. Not realising that this individual was referring to numerals, they bit on the bait like a shoal of piranhas. For a while the underlying tragedy of their ignorance was obscured by good old schadenfreude.
صفر = chiffre, in french
Present-day science is WASP science, as its compulsory language is English.
"Medici" must be stressed on the first syllable, not the second, as many Anglos are wont to do.
very sympathetic towards the greeks though their works had very little impact on modern science....
Yes, and neither had the Arabs. Modern science starts in the European Renaissance. The key is the century and a half that lays between Copernicus and Newton. That's when the spark turns into a raging wildfire. Everything else is really just a sideshow. Sorry for the Greeks and the Arabs and the Indians and the Chinese. You were close, but you aren't getting the cigar. Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler and Newton do and then there are a few others worth mentioning during that period.
@@schmetterling4477 lol, the Same copernicus who stole and copied Muslim works and astronomy even copying Al tusis heleocentric model or Newton who stated we stood on the shoulders of giants, hmmmm I wonder who he was referring to 😀
@@haideraliibnakhlaq8823 Yes, that was complete bullshit, kid. :-)
Mr Al-Khalili is avoiding using the word "abstraction" when discussing Khawarizmi. He doesn't trust ppl's minds..lulz
What do you mean ? Why would abstraction annoy anyone ?
Thanks
To the Muslims. If the Quran contains scientific fact then 1. Name one Muslim who came up with the science BEFORE it was verified and accepted as FACT by the international community. 2. Did that Muslim base their discovery on the basis of Quranic evidence, or independent of the Quran? Provide your evidence. 3. There were many who claimed scientific discoveries such as the Ancient Greeks, that were proved correct centuries later, and many years before Islam, an individual (s) claim to scientific facts, does not prove their Hellenism, culture or religion had a bearing on their discovery. Hope Muslims can see how important this point is.
BS!
Please explain!
@@nabil4315 modern science started with Nicolaus Copernicus, there's good reasons why we think so. Read, for example, Science, a history by John Gribbin to understand why.
This garbage that Jim talks about first started by Colombian lefty, he also was a university teacher, I can't recall his name, he basically despised Western civilisation and Enlightenment values, he wasn't historian. Jim is half Arab, it's understandable to talk nonsense, there are also Greek people who talk of Greek sciences, also sheer nonsense. Modern sciences are just different, it's not words or philosophy so that Chinese, Indians, Greeks, etc claim they had science.
@@kavorka8855 you seriously believe modern science started with Nicolaus Copernicus? you really need to research the history of science if you think it started with him. To also say "Jim is half Arab, it's understandable to talk nonsense", and apply the same paradigm to a Greek person showcases ignorance. The Arab world and the Greeks were discovering science before Europe learned how to walk.
@@londontrack6099 just let me know what history of modern science means to you, any books about history you've read? Sure, Wikipedia takes science back to thousands of years, but that's not modern science, it's history nevertheless, but a distorted one. Ive read the history of philosophy, both Western and outsiders', modern science and Wikipedia articles that's edited by you and I.
The Arab Muslims who were raised from the desert of Arabian land (located today in Saudi Arabia) and occupied the Iranian Empire (Sasanian Empire) which erroneously called the Persian Empire. The capital of Iran Imperial has called Ctesiphon, near Baghdad, Iraq's capital. Even Baghdad was built by Iranians and an Iranian names (bagh - dad) for it was adopted. Arab Muslims did not know anything about Science, Philosophy and Art. They tried to destroy the Iranian civilization. Due to this attack many Iranians were killed or enslaved and forced to accept the Islam, but they brought the head of ash. Most off the biggest scientists which are introduced in this speech belongs to Iranian. Please have a review Khwarizmi, Zakariyya Razi, Biruni, Jabeir ibn hayyan, Ibn sina (Avicenna), Ibn al-haytham all are Iranian scientist, not Arab scientist. Please
make a simple search about these names in google. It might be asked why so many references in this era is in Arabic? Maybe asked why the most references in that's age are Arabic? The answer is that the Islamic Caliphate period (Abbasid) were all Arabs and not recognize another languages.
All the Best.
In deed Arab Muslin invented nothing here all those great thinkers were PERSIA HE ONE MENTIONED ONE BLACK EAST AFRICAN AL- JAHIZ a father of of Evolution Theory! He portrayed his face so terrible 😢 and I knew Persia Empire conquered Kemet and no kemetic scholars left to debunk who ever either Greek, Persia, Indian and elsewhere! A black face is covered up and omitted al over the planet 🌍 but if is true that the world evolved around the sun ☀️ if black peoples are not getting extinct maybe 🤔 just my be the so called knowledge and wisdom will found it place once more. AFRIKA received Arab in Eritrea 🇪🇷 al the sudden Islam ☪️ conquered the most North and horns of AFRIKA, The England 🏴 destroyed Meroe the last Glory of AFRIKA! AFRIKA is still conquered by Christianity ✝️ and Islam ☪️ but the time will come where when the silence of the Guns will be replaced by the powerful of minds instead then AFRIKA will be reborn!!! After the power greedy ambitious nations
your comment is a proof that inferiority complex is an issue that needs to be fixed.
I would greatly advise that you visit a psychiatrist I'm sure you have plenty in Iran.
Mate Jabir ibn hayan was an arab , al kindi, ibn al haytham all of i mentioned were arabs.
secondly: you seem very ignorant of arab history, literally iraq was an arab kingdom called the lakhmids and al Hira was a center of learning of many pagan and christian arabs. arabs are not only in arabia you ignorant we had kingdoms in mesopotamia and syria( search about the nabateans, the ghassanids, al hadhr) so yeah it is arabic science.
what an ignorant iranian racist. Arabs had civilization before islam in iraq, south syria and yemen. ignorant fuk.
You,,are deeply butthurt. Pitiful. BTW..the name of the scientist you mention and claim them to be Iranian, are in fact Turkic..blow nr 2 for you
The Arab world was, at one time, the world centre of scientific discovery and learning. Then along came Islam.
The results we see today.
your comment is wrong and misleading. before the rise of Islam Arabs were like what they are today tribes fighting each other. and this legacy in the Arab world happened cause and after Islam .Arabic science is due to the language of science (the language of Quran ) not to Arabs as a race ,during the Islamic empire,where Arabs and non Arabs Muslims and non Muslims all contributed to the scientific movement at that time under the empire of Islam .what is happening today: Arabs are living under dictatorships and most of these dictatorships are secular BTW ,this is the truth .and secularists in the east are not democratic as in the west they are dictators : look now at sisi ,husni mubarak , bashar alasad , Jamal abd annaser ,saddam hussain...!!! another reason is education,there is a disaster in education if you have an in depth look at Arab schools and universities it is really a disaster!!
True and well said. But still they claim everything invented by arabs and if there is no arabs and islam world should still be dark age. I dont know which planet these idiots are living....
Did you watch to the video you are commenting on?
***** I don't even know you, nor have I said anything against you, yet you go straight to the personal insults. You must be religious.
You argument is a straw man. I have never claimed that the reason the Roman empire fell apart was because of Christianity, or the reason that we are experiencing natural disasters, war, and famine is because people aren't Christian enough.
However, when it comes to the connection between Islam and Arab science, you don't have to take my word for it. Just look at a graph of the rise of Islam in the Arab world to the present and then compare it with a Graph of the decline of Arab scientific achievements over the same time period . They correlate very closely. Unless you are biased towards Islam, the conclusion is obvious.
***** When you can stop with the personal insults, we may have a conversation.